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Summary: Women have nearly all of the advantages when it comes to the sex and relationship game. They never have to buy drinks for themselves, and casual sex is there for the taking any time they feel like it. But even knowing how easy the sex and relationships game is for women, ask yourself "Would you really rather be a woman?" You hesitate, don't you? The answer isn't yes, despite how much you'd love to have sex on tap. Because deep down, we know that even though women rule the sex and relationships game, they're still just women.


Imagine the life of a woman. It’s Friday night, 8:00. You touch up your make-up from work, straighten your hair a little bit, throw on a dress and some heels, text one of your friends, then get an Uber to meet her at one of your favorite bars. You grab your tiny clutch purse that matches your dress on the way out, but there’s not enough room in it for your wallet, not like that matters, because you never have to buy your own drinks. You and your friend spend most of the night at the bar letting guys who want to fuck you buy you drinks and flirt with you. If it’s been a week or two or so since your last hook-up, you’re feeling kind of horny, so when a guy who’s really fun and cute tries his luck, you find your friend and tell her you’re leaving with him so she doesn’t worry.

You go out like this every weekend, sometimes with her, sometimes with a different friend. You haven’t bought yourself a drink in over a year. And any time you’re horny, you can usually find someone decent for a hook up. Your friends do the same. You usually go out in pairs, maybe sometimes a group of three, but since all of you do this, there’s not really any judgment, except you might giggle if one of your friends hooks up with a really weird guy. As you’re getting ready tonight, you get a text from some guy at work or school who likes you but just won’t take the hint. You roll your eyes. You could probably have a boyfriend if you want, but you definitely don’t want him, and haven’t gotten any good relationship prospects lately. But just because you haven’t found a good guy yet, there’s no reason to go without sex while you’re looking.

A lot of Red Pill readers think about the above, and it makes them angry. Women have the advantage when it comes to sex and relationships. A woman who’s not ugly can leave home without her wallet, and guys who want to have sex with her will buy her drinks all night long. If she’s in the mood, she can have casual sex. The manosphere rage-porn myth about how guys are using her for sex and she can’t find a relationship isn’t actually true. She also has guys who want to date her more seriously. Even some of the hot guys she hooks up with. But she’s the one who’s having fun and doesn’t want to settle down.

When she does settle down, marriage can be a temporary thing for her, because divorce isn’t as big of a financial hit for her as it would be for her husband. She doesn’t necessarily plan on getting divorced later. But she can enter into a marriage knowing that the option is always there if she needs it, and that she’ll be okay, whatever happens.

When it comes to the sex and relationship game, women have the power and advantages. Men don’t. And this makes a lot of men angry. Because when you struggle to find sex, to get dates, to find relationships, and to be successful and happy in your relationships, the sex and relationship game becomes extremely important to you. It consumes you. You start to get crazy ideas about how the entire world favors women and how men have it bad and about how hopeless the world is for men, all because women get free drinks, effortless casual sex, and cheaper divorces.

But ask your self this: Even knowing how easy women have it when it comes to casual sex and relationships, would you seriously rather be a woman?

Very few men would actually wish to be a woman. We just get jaded. When you’re not having sex and you’re having a hard time finding dates and relationships, the sex and relationship game starts to seem like the most important thing in the world, and the fact that women have it easy and have all kinds of unfair advantages when it comes to that game becomes the most infuriating thing ever. But the sex and relationship game isn’t actually that important.

When a woman in her 20s shows up at my company for a job interview, the first thing all of us who meet with her (all men) think is that any minute, this woman is going to get married. Her boyfriend will propose and she’s going to disappear for a few months to plan a wedding, get married, and have a honeymoon. And after that (or if she’s already married when she interviews), she’s going to get pregnant. Maybe her pregnancy will require bedrest toward the end. Then she’ll have a baby and be on maternity leave. Then she’ll come back, but she’ll constantly be taking off work to do stuff for her kid and need special hours and special treatment. Not to mention, insurance costs for a woman of child bearing age are through the roof. Couple this with the fact that women are usually less willing to undertake new tasks, learn new skills, come early, stay late, and are usually more difficult to work with – and the under the table rule is that unless she’s really spectacular, we don’t hire women under 40. Nobody says it out loud, but it’s just a given. Women may have the advantage in the casual sex and relationship game, but women suck in the workforce.

When women show up at my BJJ gym, nobody wants to roll with them. They whine when things hurt instead of just tapping like a normal person. When your hands get caught in their hair that they refuse to tie back for some reason, or you end up touching their boobs when you’re grappling, they complain. They’re not even there to learn the martial art anyway. Somebody just told them that all men are rapists, so they’re there to learn self defense techniques. They’ve never actually been raped, mind you, but they know it’s just a matter of time before some man tries to rape them. When learning self defense turns out to be hard work and doesn’t come easily, they all quit. Once in awhile, a good one sticks it out and becomes one of the boys, but she’s a rare gem.

Think back to the girlfriends you’ve had over the years. What were their hobbies? I mean besides listening to music, watching TV, and maybe reading books. Are you having a hard time answering? Didn’t you date these women for months, maybe years? And you can’t even name their hobbies? Don’t worry. It’s not you. It’s them. Most women don’t have actual hobbies. What a woman does for fun is go out. After work, she contacts friends, and she goes somewhere and eats food and drinks alcohol. Maybe listens to music. She doesn’t need hobbies. Her life is complete as long as she has enough money to pay rent and go out to meet guys for sex and relationships. If a woman does have a hobby, most likely, that’s because one of her previous boyfriends had the hobby and she got into it because of him. Women are defined by the men they can attract and the men they’ve dated. Otherwise, they’re mostly an empty shell. Yes, yes, not all women, all the time. But enough women, enough of the time.

When it comes to the sex and relationships game, yes, women have all of the power and advantages, and yes, that’s aggravating. But when it comes to life, women aren’t taken that seriously. Not by anybody that matters, anyway. If you listen to internet liberals and the media, it sounds like women are taking over the world, but if you actually pay attention, most women aren’t taken that seriously in the real world.

Yes, women never have to buy themselves drinks and can have all of the casual sex they want. But would you really rather be a woman, or are you better off as a man?

Life can be hard, unfair, and can kick you right in the balls, but as a man, you have a lot more potential to succeed at life than the overwhelming majority of women. First, you need to ditch the anger. Second, you need to de-prioritize the sex and relationships game (I'm not saying don't try to have sex - just don't obsess over it like a weirdo. Take some time off from complaining about the sex game on the internet.) And third, you need to embrace life’s challenges and grow. If you belong to one of those internet communities where time is wasted complaining about women instead of improving yourself as a man, it’s time to fix that, quit wallowing in self-pity, and realize that no matter how much causal sex they’re having and you’re not, nobody would rather be a woman.

[-] otter6461a 408 Points 4 months ago

It’s easier to be a woman. It’s better to be a man.

[-] warlordchad 56 Points 4 months ago

Yep, and the difference is agency. Men—real men at least—take responsibility for their choices and actions, because we are judged by them from a very young age.

Women, on the other hand, follow the crowd and do what they’re supposed to do and when they’re young and pretty everyone says how wonderful and charming and smart they are—and that’s true: some women are highly intelligent, capable people.

The problem is they never have to struggle the way men do, and therefore never learn to take responsibility or agency for what happens to them.

[-] SilenceOnTheWire 29 Points 4 months ago

Men—real men at least—take responsibility for their choices and actions, because we are judged by them from a very young age.

More like because no one is going to save you if you fuck up so you don't really have much choice, but that too.

[-] g0dfather93 8 Points 4 months ago

no one is going to save you if you fuck up

True story, man. Parents will go only so far, too. I mean they'll give emotional and even financial support but absolution from past mistakes and a semblance of respect has to be earned by grinding the grind and manning the fuck up.

And you know what? I wouldn't have it any other way. Difficult times build character and that's a goddamn fact.

[-] SilenceOnTheWire 3 Points 4 months ago

You are lucky if your parents will go even that far. But I agree with you.

[-] Thynome 1 Point 4 months ago

My parents do (I was a really shitty teenager) and I'm really grateful for that now. Even when my mother still annoys me sometimes and my dad can have his edgy moments too; I know they're there and support me. I think that's the only reason why my life has been going so smooth so far. I hope I can do the same if I should ever have kids.

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[-] toobass -29 Point 4 months ago

some women are highly intelligent, capable people.

Stop Lying to yourself. Women are inferior in every way imaginable, except child bearing and that's because they are born that way.

There are not intelligent women, they are not rational; a purely emotional driven creature.

[-] ImNotSue 10 Points 4 months ago

Reader of this reply, it could be worth brushing up on statistics and human evolutionary psychology. Human behavior trends toward averages, because the most successful strategy is likely to be one most present doesn't mean there aren't people a few standard deviations away from the norm. There's just going to be women who have certain traits uncommon in most women, because that's just how statistics is when you have the kind of variation that exists in the human population. Outliers don't disprove the average, sure. Betting on a woman bring more like the average woman than not is a smart bet, even the smartest bet perhpas. But don't say stupid hyperbolic shit like this.

[-] toobass -1 Point 4 months ago

This way of thinking is fundamentally flawed because it emphazises on stadistical outliners to justify NAWALT. Blue Pill thinking at it's finest.

The Red Pill is a radical rejection, don't be so autistic.

[-] ImNotSue 3 Points 4 months ago

Readers of this post, generalizing a truth of statistics (outliers exist) into radical assumptions (the blue pilled NAWALT fantasy) and somehow saying you should thus ignore statistics, this line of thinking is flawed. AWALT is a rule of thumb to remind you that any woman is far more likely to behave typical of all women than not. Not to mean 'actually all women must behave like this,' but that you should expect them to.
If you, reader, need to be radical instead of logical to be redpilled, that's understandable. It's not easy to be analytical and learning about redpill and rejecting the culture that taught you to be bluepilled can make one emotional, but show forethought and consideration to your actions when you can.

[-] BelialLedah 3 Points 4 months ago

You're a few standard deviations the other way because you sure as fuck can't read.

[-] tunsku 3 Points 4 months ago

You sound pretty emotional buddy. Let go of the anger before you shoot up a girls' school.

[-] Field_Of_View 2 Points 4 months ago

you're thinking of women you'd bang, not women in general. virtually no young, pretty woman is highly intelligent or particularly "capable". but there are women with those attributes, too.

[-] toobass 0 Points 4 months ago

Why would i care about women who are invisible to me?

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[-] jackandjill22 14 Points 4 months ago

If I was a women with my cunning and intellect in this climate our society would probably have a serious problem.

[-] nofilmynofucky 5 Points 4 months ago

That might be the single best and most concise summary of trp teachings I've ever read.

[-] saganist91 2 Points 4 months ago

Being a man... heavy risk... but the priiize.

[-] silent_dominant 1 Point 4 months ago

It's harder to be an ugly woman than it is to be an ugly man though

[-] Thunderfin 0 Points 4 months ago

Easier in the context of dating. Most other times in life it's really not imo

[-] Protocol_Apollo 243 Points 4 months ago

A man needs to grow and become better to be able to pull many women. A woman doesn’t grow since all she has to do is to be passive.

Their greatest gift is their greatest curse- they don’t have to do anything/can be passive and so they get robbed of growth (path of least resistance).

[-] bhoops97 101 Points 4 months ago

Same reason the wall hits them really hard. They didn’t have the chance to grow and improve in their 20s because things came easy. Once they hit 30-35 they realize that it only came easy due to their youth and beauty. And they become increasingly desperate knowing their youth and beauty will never return

[-] Protocol_Apollo 40 Points 4 months ago

Yep literally. I never get why people complain about dating dynamics in this sense. In the end, all accounts are balanced. Sure, women have it easier in their twenties but after 28/29 they really have to lock down a man. Whereas men don’t really have a wall, he has no biological time clock so provided he lifts, works on himself etc he can still slay until his 50’s if he really wanted. That, and also men in their twenties can have the same kind of sex life as his female counterparts if he knows what he must do and has the will to act.

This is my favourite quote: “The average woman may have it easier than the average man in dating, but the average man has the greatest potential if he acts on it”

[-] Layback 21 Points 4 months ago

They complain because they are 18-25 and are seeing how lopsided the dating game is at that age range. They're not wrong, they're just too young and need more time and experience like you said.

[-] jackandjill22 1 Point 4 months ago

No, the average man has to no longer be average to succeed in the dating game. This isn't some batman shit the "will to act" means absolutely nothing.

[-] jackandjill22 1 Point 4 months ago

Fuck balance. Where's equity?

[-] arsarsars123 26 Points 4 months ago

I've noticed this a lot, many young girls don't strive for any advancement in their careers now, and in their 30's are making 10% more than what they made in their 20's.

Weirds me out working with a woman who in 20 years hasn't surpassed a desk job, makes less than me, and I only have 2 years experience in this industry.

Makes sense though, she just partied her 20's away and what free time she had she spent shopping and watching TV.

[-] Phoenixtorment 33 Points 4 months ago

You are thinking from a male perspective. Career advancement isn't an feminine quality. It is an attractive quality in men, not women.

[-] jackandjill22 9 Points 4 months ago

They guys who're dating them now are spending their income and time on those girls so they can do those things more easily. They get wrung dry but for the guys who work their asses off for abundance theirs an opportunity cost for the amount of time you spent working. The Best years of your life are spent busting your ass just so you're a functional adult.

[-] jackandjill22 12 Points 4 months ago

You all keep talking about value accumulation, but neglect the point that being a guy especially in your twenties sucks ass. By the time you get your ass kicked enough by life you're almost fucking 40 trying to date the same annoying, empty bitches that were unobtainable when you were a young man. This is exacerbated when there are so many other dudes not dying in wars. This demographic is huge and our generation is reeling from social issues.

[-] hobeezus 1 Point 4 months ago

That's why it helps to have something else to focus on. Your mission should be more important than women, especially when you're young and filled with energy.

[-] BuzzLightGear321 27 Points 4 months ago

They choose not to grow. A woman that grows is the best of both worlds. I wouldn't want to be a woman with a mind of one, but to be able to think logically in a hot woman's body, hell ya hands down better.

[-] good_guy_submitter 19 Points 4 months ago

I'm glad it is not easy to have the best of both worlds. (and no, trannies don't have the best of both, not even the hot passable ones)

As a man it is possible to enjoy the same benefits women have for being women. How? Be extremely valuable.

Does the Michael Phelps buy his own drinks? Only if he wants to. You get the idea. Money and influence and power = everyone comes to you, including pussy.

[-] mental_models 11 Points 4 months ago

Good point. Be valuable. Form strong alliances.

^These men are the most powerful of all the players in the dating game/market.

[-] good_guy_submitter 3 Points 4 months ago

Yes. A powerful man has near unlimited options with as many women as he wants.

The most beautiful woman in the world, what are her options? She only has one, and that is whatever man she chooses, but still only 1 man.

We're driven by reproduction systems. Women are limited by biology. Men are not as much limited.

[-] Fatstupidvirginboy 22 Points 4 months ago

I think its a disservice to women that this process goes unspoken about. All the girls that were super hot in high school and never had to do anything for themselves, they stagnate and the girls in the middle go through more growth and development because they have to, because unlike the hot ones nothing is coming to them passively.

Then by 25 you see the tables completely turn and the super hotties looks are kinda fading and suddenly you would rather have the cool girl you can have a conversation with than some girl you cannot relate with because shes never had to work 40 hours a week or make an a in a stem class.

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[-] richarddbuckley4 88 Points 4 months ago

I’d rather be an attractive woman, because all their value is attached to their looks. They’re literally worshipped by most men. However, I sometimes think about how hard ugly/fat women have it. They’re just ignored by men and women alike. At least if you’re a really ugly man you can get rich, hit gym, or even just be funny/quick witted.

[-] ozenmacher 48 Points 4 months ago

Extremely unattractive women (genetically) are extremely rare. Most women considered that these days are done through their own doing (excess weight, shitty clothing, blue hair, tattoos, and other distasteful things).

[-] BrownGummyBear 32 Points 4 months ago

^ this. Even if she has an ugly face all women have to do is eat fairly healthy and they’ll have a horde of guys trying to fuck them. Eating righth is just one of the things low value men have to deal with in order to improve their SMV

[-] richarddbuckley4 6 Points 4 months ago

But for a girl, success isn’t defined by having one night stands with average looking men (Chads wouldn’t fuck them). Even if some men do want to fuck you, for women it’s about holding down a man in a relationship, and for ugly women that is near impossible without looks.

[-] ozenmacher 9 Points 4 months ago

I still really disagree with that. The general idea that you marry a "5-6" is true for a reason. As long as she is not genetically impaired, she children she has can still be healthy and attractive, and often times the wall does not hit the average women nearly as hard as the beautiful women (simply because there is not as far to fall, and her life would likely not revolve around her physical beauty). Many men would much prefer to have a "plain-Jane" wife instead of a super model hottie, and there are a ton of ways a women of lower SMV can market herself. Home-making, cooking, kind/feminine, caring, loving of children, attentive, etc. Yes, for truly fugly women, it will be harder, but my point still stands. There just are not that many purely fugly women out there who did not do it to themselves. Historically, almost all women were fit to marry. Modern day sloth, laziness, and partying, along with the influence of feminism, has changed that.

[-] OllyOlly_OxenFree 9 Points 4 months ago

There just are not that many fugly women out there

Have you been to England mate?

[-] jackandjill22 1 Point 4 months ago

That's an understatement. Men have to compete and win at all costs. There's nothing else to it. If you have to kill motherfuckers in the process then that's just the means. It's a winner-take-all economy. In every sense.

[-] Iron-Pencil 4 Points 4 months ago

king with a woman who in 20 years hasn't surpassed a desk job, makes less than me, and I only have 2 years experi

Exactly this. Today's women all complain about having "bad genes" for being a lard ass. But look at the photos of their aunts, moms, grandmothers, and great grandmothers in their youth, and they're all cute, slim, or beautiful.

[-] Imperator_Red 1 Point 4 months ago

Yep. Women have narrower distributions for everything (intelligence, attractiveness, height, strength etc.)

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[-] jackandjill22 9 Points 4 months ago

Yea. Agree with that. Beautiful women. It's crazy. It's literally a social inequality card. You can beat poverty by being a beautiful women.

[-] FinancierGuru 2 Points 4 months ago

They’re literally worshipped by most men. "

This is the problem of our society and beta male fabric. Even post-walls are in demand.

Shame on men.

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[-] VivekPC 85 Points 4 months ago

Men are made, women just are

[-] RStonePT 68 Points 4 months ago

At least a person who DNGAF about me doesn't want to lie to me, why would they?

I'd hate to be told I was amazing until I turned 35, then completely ignored the rest of my life

[-] bowhunter6 23 Points 4 months ago

Amen, brother. Being a man is harder and infinitely satisfying if you do it right.

[-] raymondreamer 53 Points 4 months ago

Idk but I can just change my gender at anytime.. so why not be a man during the day and a woman at night or on the weekends?

[-] TacticalPolonium 36 Points 4 months ago

so why not be a man during the day and a woman at night or on the weekends?

Improvise

Adapt

Overcome

[-] Brazilian_Slaughter 22 Points 4 months ago

Post-Modern Problems recquire Post-Modern Solutions

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[-] AyameNoop 44 Points 4 months ago

I think the key question here is: Do you, a redpilled guy, want to wake up as a 7/10 woman tomorrow?

If I can wake up with all my current memories, knowledge and personality intact. Then HELL YES! All the benefits and no downsides!

But if anything spoken by red pill thinkers is true then if i wake up as a woman WITH A WOMAN'S THINKING AND OPERATING SYSTEM. Then no that would be a fate worse than death

One of the fundamental ideas of TRP is that women dont see how the world works at large, just their biased interpretation of it, nor the blatant hypocracy of their actions and general disconnect between what they say and actually respond to; and me losing that after having learnt so much is too terrible a fate to think of.

[-] chrisname 50 Points 4 months ago

If you’re wanting to wake up as a woman so you can have sex with men, that’s pretty fucking gay bro.

[-] AyameNoop 5 Points 4 months ago

I didn't mention anything about fucking men

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I'm talking about the benefits and perks society is willing to ceed (mainly those given by beta men and taken and claimed by SJWs) to you just because you have a vagina

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[-] jackandjill22 2 Points 4 months ago

If I could wake up and never have to worry about competing to stop being horny I'd gladly take that.

[-] Chaddeus_Rex 2 Points 4 months ago

if i woke up as a woman tomorrow i'd be the biggest lesbo around town.

[-] Thynome 0 Points 4 months ago

Like we say in Germany: Ein bisschen bi schadet nie.

[-] ___Lana___ 19 Points 4 months ago

No side (man/woman) is better than the other one. If we respect than natural order, both have the same amount of benefits and downsides : men bear more responsibilities, work harder, are under more stress and pressure, while they benefit from their leadership, have more social recognition, are the ones taking the decisions, etc. Women on the contrary are the ones doing the chores, taking care of home and children, have a limited social recognition, don’t get to take decisions and must submit even when they disagree, but they face less stress and pressure, they do not care about money, can act childish and just have fun. Sex is only one thing... You can be a woman with, obviously, a woman’s thinking and operating sytem, AND be perfectly happy ;-)

[-] AyameNoop 4 Points 4 months ago

I agree with you about the natural order thing

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However during my red pill journey I realized that the natural order only applies to men; women however can do whatever they want, whenever they feel like it

[-] saze83 6 Points 4 months ago

women however can do whatever they want, whenever

I would have to disagree on this. Women can do whatever they want with beta men, but not with other women or the world at large.

[-] AyameNoop 3 Points 4 months ago

I disagree

Lets say you are an always-angry bitchy woman, not as extreme as a blue haired feminazi or a SJW, but close

Now lets assume somethings:

About 80% of men are blue pilled betas so they are yours for the taking.

Maybe 50% of women are the submissive non queen bee types who will let you bulldoze them because they dont want to "cause any trouble"

Thats already like 65% of the world at large. I'll take those odds

And in comformist societies its even easier to get your way because even less people will be inclined to stop you

[-] FinancierGuru 1 Point 4 months ago

Since all the commentators here are male, they don't really see it from women perspective.

WOMEN ARE HAPPIER than men. They don't need / want to **grow** or **improve**. They are perfectly happy "to act childish and just have fun."

And I'm not even kidding here.

Being spoiled for their looks -they love it (as much as they claim the contrary).

Don't get taken by the biggest snake in the world.

Hell, the guy below me said it right

women however can do whatever they want, whenever they feel like it."

If that's not freedom (that YOU have to fight tooth and nails for as a man), than what is ?

Women are the spoiled children of this world.

Replace the word *women* with *children*. Tell me now how bad it is to be a child ? Tell me. The world is your oyster as a kid. It doesn't last forever, but hell it was the best time.

So the relationship men to women is never fair to men. TRP tries to address that relationship inequity.

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[-] AyameNoop 1 Point 4 months ago

aint it nice that as a women you don't need to really grow up

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Until you either:

hitch your cart to the wrong horse and end up a single mother or in a bad marriage

OR

hit the wall hard and find your Neverland slowly changing to something cold and scary as reality hits you in the face

[-] ___Lana___ 1 Point 4 months ago

I think it’s not about growing up or not. It’s about being a woman and embrace feminity and your true nature. I know what it means to me : I am independent, I have a well-paid job, Ms degree in Finance, smart, strong personality, active social circle, do sport, but I love to be guided by my man. He’s the one in charge, he takes the decisions. I am feminine, caring, loving. He’s strong, doesn’t let me do whatever I want, punish me if needed. I really admire him, respect him and love to follow his leadership.

Where do you see any need to grow up? Don’t think women are all crazy bitches. There are some, of course, but there are also a lot of « normal » women. Do they do shit tests and so on? Yes. But it’s just because it’s in our nature. I love TRP because it’s all about understanding men and women nature.

[-] ___Lana___ 1 Point 4 months ago

I was not talking about « the natural order » for nothing.

Am I childish? Yes. Do I do all these things that women are said to do here on TRP (hamstering, manipulating, hypergaming, etc)? Of course. I know my limitations and, more broadly, woman nature.

Being a child involves being said no. Being punished. Not being able to do/choose what you want. Being dependent. And if submitting is already not easy when you’re a child, imagine what it is as an grown-up. But, of course, if that’s what you want, you can have it. Just choose the blue pill, submit to women and alphas, and you will not anymore have to face the responsibilities that go with the leadership.

[-] AyameNoop 1 Point 4 months ago

well good thing that blue pilled men pretty much brainwashed themselves into being easygoing "gentlemen"

[-] Jake_le_Dog 2 Points 4 months ago

And there's so much here you can draw a parallel to beta thinking with.

You remember what it was like thinking as you were conditioned to, but then you realized a whole new world opened up to you when you gained a high internal locus of control, etc. Everything is for the taking, it is not them and their actions you worry about, you just think about what you've got to do to get what you want.

I'll never want to trade this back. The blue pills are everywhere, so you must always work to keep this, because it will unknowingly slip away when you don't. But even a slip won't go unnoticed after a while, because something won't feel right.

[-] Masonjarteadrinker1 35 Points 4 months ago

Heck no, I love being a man.

[-] uglynihilist 31 Points 4 months ago

You are too lazy or immature if you think that it’s better to be a woman

[-] g0dfather93 3 Points 4 months ago

The word in play is easier, not better

[-] Chaddeus_Rex 1 Point 4 months ago

You are too lazy or immature

Or just ugly. You can't outtrain ugly.

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[-] HansCapon 28 Points 4 months ago

Great post man. Men become stronger over time, while it's the inverse with women. Post isn't too long btw, it's a good short read.

[-] GoingToMakeItBrahs 24 Points 4 months ago

The average man has it worse than the average woman.

But top men have it better than top women.

[-] lobstergenocide 5 Points 4 months ago

This. Women have a "ceiling" but they also have a floor, whereas men have neither. No one is there to catch us when we fall so we have to teach ourselves to fly, but when you get it you can really soar

[-] jihocech 1 Point 4 months ago

There are much more homeless men than homeless women.

[-] LokiWantsToPlay 18 Points 4 months ago

Anyone who answers yes to that question has had his head jammed up societies feminine arse for faaarrr too long. Both genders suffer from disadvantages but if the only reason a guy says yes is due to the sexual advantages a woman has... The motherfucker needs to take a step back and evaluate his desires in life. Sex is fun, no longer the core aspect for surviving.

I'll take the ability to suffer hardships without having a "mental breakdown" over a life paved with gold for 30 odd years for it to suddenly turn to shit for the rest of the journey. Least i get to lay the gold on my path

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[-] LokiWantsToPlay 1 Point 4 months ago

I'm not entirely sure this is a counterpoint.. More of a showcasing that yet again, men have it harder than women in life. Funnily enough, good pussy is based on what we make it do (Size disparities aside).

The art of great sex, the kind that's 3 hours long and leaves her trembling afterwards falls upon us. I'm not sure how it goes for you but when i make a woman take over, it's simply for me to have a breather before i get back to smashing. Well that skill is simply another golden stone to place upon your path. Funnily enough, do this enough, build up your reputation and those sorts of stones start laying themselves, lol.

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[-] LokiWantsToPlay 1 Point 4 months ago

You're basically describing the type of woman that society has repeatedly tried to tell feminists in regard to feminine power within "The Patriarchy"

The message still hasn't sunk in. They want the almighty masculine power

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[-] Chaddeus_Rex 1 Point 4 months ago

Since time exists and you will age.

age fucks the chances to get with hot girls for most guys.

[-] jackandjill22 1 Point 4 months ago

*Stares at my watch* so, when does this thing start kicking in. How long do I have to Fucking wait?

[-] jsphere256 15 Points 4 months ago

When I get home from the office there's a great copypasta on this topic that I'll share

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Imagine a life where you have never been great at anything, never felt the urge to be great at anything, never felt that magnetic admiration to someone who was great at something, wanted to imitate and ultimately surpass him. Just nothing. Literally all you do in life is exist. Occupy space. Pass the time. You're a chick.

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You're bored, tweeting about your hair and not even feeling gratified by it, just soothing your constant need to be bitter and petty toward other women. Every single thing you've done in the past year was mundane, shallow, and boring. You spent the last six hours reading kinda interesting Reddit stories about people who made interesting Halloween hats for their kids or something. You may say it's interesting but you're not really sure. You're just sitting there, gestating, fermenting, with a moist hole between your legs that guarantees you'll at least never have to get up and move around and work to support yourself.

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And then you see men, over in the corner, having fun. You've never seen this before. What are they even doing? Instead of their consciousnesses merely sitting in their thick skull and revolving around itself, they are imbuing conscious energy and intent into external objects, crafts, goals, projects. All the bitterness you feel nonstop seems to be absent, as they congratulate each other for being victorious and happily learn from each other. These creatures are truly content to be alive. They have found purpose in a purposeless universe.

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And your gaze turns back on itself, on your self, and you realize you've never had that. You can never have it. You're just stupid.

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So you get up, you walk over there, and you ruin everything. Just ruin the whole damn thing. The five seconds of attention you get will be worth it. Because you're a woman.

[-] Aroundwork 5 Points 4 months ago

This is a massive generalization, plenty of sexy women wanna be successful. If anything, they understand their looks can get them places in life further than if they were ugly

You're misconstruing gender and intelligence -- dumb guys think exactly the same way, being dumb is the true curse I would never wish for.

Maybe the real question is would I rather be a dumb attractive women or a smart ugly woman? That's a lot tougher

[-] FinancierGuru 1 Point 4 months ago

Great analogy, last part.

She'll just walk over to get that attention - and she'll get it, because... natural law.

You might think of herself that she's just stupid. She doesn't.

[-] [deleted] 14 Points 4 months ago

Would I want to be a woman? Have you seen the guys in TRP? The answer is no.

You may think women have the power but the reality is that we have the power. Women follow, men lead. The problem with many men is that they don't know how to lead. Women then gravitate towards the men that do.

TRP shows men how to lead.

Imagine being a woman, looking for a leader, and all you're met with is sub par men that don't know anything about leadership. Sure you'll get horny and just bang the hottest dude you can get, but you won't want a relationship because that guy either doesn't want a relationship or he fails your tests for leadership and self worth. Add on top of that you have an inflated self worth from so many suiters. You'll start to think you deserve the leadership of people much higher than your own SMV. You'll be fooled into wasting your limited time on guys that are just out of your league. I've seen that happen to so many women in my time.

Being a man is great. We have so many advantages over women in the sexual market place because we deal in reality. With practice we figure out our real SMV, our self worth isn't inflated, and we have much more time to find a mate. If you're good at sales you'll rock the dating world. Find your niche and go after that. Change your product if you want a different niche. And remember, women want a leader. She needs you to be strong and know that your decisions are the right ones.

[-] Lord_Drezz 12 Points 4 months ago

if i had the body of a woman, the mind of a man, and didnt have to deal with penises, i may think about it

[-] womans_algorithm 12 Points 4 months ago

There was a post on TRP a long time ago, something like "red pill is even tougher for women than it is for men". It was about that, sure, women have it easy when it comes to sex and that stuff, but longterm it's hard for them. They have limited time (most of it they dont think about it) to find good husband and father of their children, get their education and job in order. Meanwhile they are pressured and lied by feminists what good life should be lived like. While also being less emotionally stable than men, with fathers mostly gone or being their wife's bitch.

[-] DeGENZerate 11 Points 4 months ago

If you listen to internet liberals and the media, it sounds like women are taking over the world

Actually men are destroying the world by looking at women for spiritual direction; like an a child is supposed to look at his father

[-] papunigga031 3 Points 4 months ago

You're not wrong. It's a painful cycle.

[-] papunigga031 10 Points 4 months ago

Ease of life =/= quality of life.

Sure they have more 'fun' but 'fun' has diminishing returns.

Fulfillment is forever.

[-] TheEgyptianConqueror 1 Point 4 months ago

As JP said, freedom and happiness are not the same thing

[-] ozenmacher 9 Points 4 months ago

As a mid thirties man, seeing the emotional antics of my mostly single and careerist mid-thirties female acquaintances, my answer is pretty simple...

Male Silver Fox on the rise vs the female spinster? Yeah...no contest.

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Shutup and get to work boys.

[-] FinancierGuru 1 Point 4 months ago

Who or what is the male silver fox ?

[-] datchung1 9 Points 4 months ago

I like playing life on hard mode thank u very much

[-] TacticalPolonium 3 Points 4 months ago

Agreed. Living on hard move may be a bitch sometimes, but the satisfaction of accomplishing your goals is immeasurable.

[-] adam-l 7 Points 4 months ago

Depends on your social class. If you are upper-middle class +, and Red-Pilled, you can derive more life satisfaction as a man.

If you are lower-middle class and below, being a woman is unbeatable.

[-] Estrogenoxygen 6 Points 4 months ago

I feel incredibly privileged to have been born male. If we can find it, we hold all the power. It took my 30 years to come to this conclusion.

[-] Captain_Quick 5 Points 4 months ago

No. I don't want a menstrual cycle and I like peeing standing up.

[-] RightHandWolf 3 Points 4 months ago

Plus, being able to write our names in the snow/sand/mud is an awesome party trick.

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[-] thrownaway2thewind 4 Points 4 months ago

I'm going to try to sound the least rude as possible but we can tell that women are just lesser. I can't put my finger on what it is exactly but they just arent as cognitively developed as we are. They lack willpower, fortitude, and are like prisoners to validation and the social world. Women are more attractive and loved for who they are but they can never just be happy internally, they always look for someone else to bring it to them. As men, we create good times and have the will in us to fight for it. Its not always easy, but I wouldn't have it any other way.

[-] Iron-Pencil 2 Points 4 months ago

They lack willpower, fortitude, and are like prisoners to validation and the social world. Women are more attractive and loved for who they are but they can never just be happy internally, they always look for someone else to bring it to them. As men, we create good times and have the will in us to fight for it. Its not always easy, but I wouldn't have it any other way.

Their brains are neurologically wired for verbal communication skills. When used correctly, they can observe and convey subtleties way over the head of average (i.e., most) obtuse men. Instead, women squander this talent and become consumed with gossip, chit chat, tabloids, harlequins, and vanities.

Pro-tip: Get the women at your office to share the office gossip. They gather it much easier than yourself. You don't get your hands dirty. Being a woman, they don't get their hands dirty. They gladly volunteer their info as your spy. But don't be obvious about this ploy, duh. You have to be non-nonchalant: "Sally, what's new being said these days?" "Who do you think is getting the Jones' Account?" But don't rely on only one woman as an info source as she'll be prone to spin you half-truths.

[-] MOSFETBJT 4 Points 4 months ago

Nah, the idea of sucking dick is nasty.

Wouldn't mind being lesbian?

[-] jackandjill22 1 Point 4 months ago

I know many girls who're bi honestly. Hadn't heard from this pretty hot chick in my friends social circle for awhile, asked a mutual friend what she'd been up to. "You know, eating good pussy and watching Netlfix." Sure, I guess.

[-] Injrabodi 4 Points 4 months ago

Heh, I couldn't imagine being so broken and addicted to sex that I'd want to be a woman in order to obtain sex easier. If the apex of your life is placing your meat-stick into a wet hole, then I pity you. Find something more important than women, get your priorities in order, and females will line up for you.

[-] smokecheck1976 3 Points 4 months ago

This is one of those posts that make me wonder how many regular posters on the Red Pill sub actually talks to women, listens to women, or has any female friends or relatives. It certainly belies the inability of many posters here to place themselves in the shoes of another person, which is quite honestly, closely related to why so many here struggle so mightily to get laid.

> Imagine the life of a woman. It’s Friday night, 8:00.....

You are describing one of a very small subset of women. Some women will "hook up" with a random guy. In most cases, that's where you can get yourself a good case of herpeghonnasyphilAIDS. A lot of women avoid having a guy buy them a drink because they don't want him thinking they are obligated to him, even if he is cute. Also, she's a slut if she "puts out" and she is a prude if she doesn't. She thinks guys care about her matching purse, even though only a gay guy would even really notice.

You are making an assumption that all women are like this tiny percentage, when they are an exception and not a rule. What about the woman that's doing college coursework on Friday night? What about the one that volunteered to help the homeless? How about the one that's in the back of the ambulance or working in the hospital emergency room?

> When she does settle down, marriage can be a temporary thing for her, because divorce isn’t as big of a financial hit for her as it would be for her husband. She doesn’t necessarily plan on getting divorced later. But she can enter into a marriage knowing that the option is always there if she needs it, and that she’ll be okay, whatever happens.

There are studies that show that a woman post divorce is usually worse off financially, and men are usually better off financially. If you want to address the ease with which people are allowed to divorce, you are right, unhappiness is not a valid reason for divorce, and it adds to the culture of people being disposable.

> When a woman in her 20s shows up at my company for a job interview, the first thing all of us who meet with her (all men) think.....

And in all of it, so what? The 20s man might show up work hard, receive extra training, and bounce three months later. As far as special hours or flex time goes, that is sort of the normal for people working at a fixed location with normal hours any more. Businesses aren't going to pay employees to stay.

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[-] redpill77 3 Points 4 months ago

I agree with most of your supporting points, and that men have a better chance of becoming something, but people in the age range 5-25 are flocking towards that sweet sweet female victimhood privilege. Many who won't go full inverted-penis are still turning into they/thems. To be included you must be not a man. To gain some control, you must be a man.

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[-] bjcm5891 1 Point 4 months ago

Yeah, I've subbed dating advice but most of the subjects that come up and the responses are disappointing...

[-] ElKubunio 3 Points 4 months ago

I don't think that being an alpha widowed woman is good idea.

[-] ShinyRedKetoPill 3 Points 4 months ago

Totally!

I would get laid every time I want. Limitless attention and validation.

By the time I am 30 I would have 3 clear house titles to my name. All with minimal effort.

[-] volvostupidshit 2 Points 4 months ago

And then just delude yourself that you have "earned" all of it. HAHA!

[-] ShinyRedKetoPill 1 Point 4 months ago

No. Worse. I was ENTITLED to it all along!

[-] TRP8myfeels 3 Points 4 months ago

I'm not reading this, but no. I enjoy being male.

[-] MartyMcfly2046 3 Points 4 months ago

there was this app that was popular a couple months back where you could see how you’d look as a woman. After seeing the female version of myself I was glad I was born a dude lmao

[-] bjcm5891 2 Points 4 months ago

The female version of myself was hot!

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But then it was all ruined when I showed my mother the app, she saw the picture of female me and said it looked like her when she was a teenager. Ugh...

[-] DownyGall 2 Points 4 months ago

I mean at my age in my mid 20s, I would rather be a woman because it’s easier comparably, but then the tables turn quite drastically and quickly. So overall being a man is better.

[-] jackandjill22 0 Points 4 months ago

No, it' doesn't change that quickly my son. takes a good while.

[-] strikethrough123 2 Points 4 months ago

Life for women starts off easy then gets harder, life for RP men starts out difficult then becomes easier. For men it becomes easier for longer.

If I had the choice at birth, I’d gladly take that Y chromosome.

[-] Yola-tilapias 2 Points 4 months ago

Do any of you people actually buy this crap? Or are you able to see past the fictionalization and understand this is just redpill porn for the angry lonely men out there?

[-] Kurush559 1 Point 4 months ago

Can you explain your question in further detail? It's unclear

[-] _Anarchon_ 2 Points 4 months ago

Not no, but hell no. Being a man is fucking great, even in the current environment. It's gay to even consider what you're talking about.

[-] RPSilverfox 2 Points 4 months ago

They can also get more pussy than a guy if they so desire. My little sister came out after high school and she tells me stories about how almost any girl is up for a girl on girl hook up if it suits them and that she’s been with as many straight girls as other lesbians.

[-] Qba1994 2 Points 4 months ago

Commenting just to remind myself this post exists. One of the best ones! Puts me on my path.

[-] Peshquabz 2 Points 4 months ago

Imagine the life of a minotaur. It’s a full moon, 12:00am. You quaff your goblet of grog, sharpen your battle-axe a little bit, throw on your breastplate and helmet, sacrifice to one of your sinister gods, then go stomping outside of your cave to meet the defenders of the nearest village in mortal combat. You sling your bandoleer of severed heads over your shoulder, because there’s not enough room in it for your hands, not like it matters, because you'll end up pitching it over the walls of the village as a terror tactic anyways. You and your axe spend most of the night hammering away at the village's barricades, savaging the humans who challenge and attempt to kill you. If it’s been a month or so since your last raid, you’re intensely hungry, so when a human who’s at once fat and weirdly well muscled tries his luck, you drop your axe and pull him apart with your clawed hands so as to eat him as quickly as possible.

You go out like this every full moon, sometimes with your axe, sometimes choosing to wield a literal boulder instead. You've not eaten anything other than manflesh and cave fungus in over a year. And any time you’re hungry, you can usually find a hunter or shepherd camped out somewhere. Your fellow minotaurs do the same. During solar eclipses, you sometimes go out in pairs, maybe a group of three. At such times, the only challenge to you might be one of your 'friends' eating more than what you deem to be his fill. As you’re getting ready tonight, you remember that some knight from the capital or local castle has been sent to kill you. You roll your eyes. You could easily wait in ambush, and kill him by rolling rocks down the steep mountain sides if you wanted. But you definitely don’t care to expend that much effort. It ultimately matters not that you haven’t killed him yet. In the darkness, there’s no way for him to utilize his horse effectively, anyways.

A lot of peasants think about the above, and it makes them angry. Minotaurs have the advantage when it comes to both combat, and general survival. A minotaur who’s fully matured and blessed by the gods of darkness can attack via darkness without any shield/ranged weaponry, and humans who want to slay it will fail catastrophically all night long. If the minotaurs's truly hungry, it'll manage to brazenly eat more or less everyone that it's killed. The human rage-porn myth about how knights are tracking minotaurs to their caves and slaying them isn’t actually true. The minotaur has other monsters to contend with, all of which it takes much more seriously. Even some of it's fellow minotaurs or satyrs are possible enemies. But every minotaur fervently believes that it is the one who’s favored by the gods, and thus continues without heed for potential dangers.

[-] EGOtyst 2 Points 4 months ago

BAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

[-] chazthundergut 2 Points 4 months ago

Fuck no.

Bleed from my vagina every month? Get super bitchy and bloated and crampy?

Be super emotional and irrational all the time? Feel no responsibility for anything?

Have to cake my face with makeup and spend hours on my hair just for the chance to suck a guy's dick?

Nah I'm good

[-] Casd12 2 Points 4 months ago

Men are programmed with a deep desire for hardships. Deep down we get our dicks hard for anything that is challenging. Why? because of our need for power. The symbiotic relationship between hardships and power is why we need it. Its why stories have arcs, video games have bosses, because without an arc, the prize is worthless. The arc is everything

[-] Skeeter_onmyPeter 1 Point 4 months ago

“A lot of Red Pill readers think about the above, and it makes them angry.” No, a lot of posers think about it and get angry.

[-] CainPrice 1 Point 4 months ago

Don't get your panties in a wad searching for internet validation, bub. We all know that you are truly enlightened and the manliest of manly Red Pill men. No need to virtue signal.

You may have noticed that I used the term "Red Pill readers", as in somebody who reads The Red Pill, rather than a stronger and more definite term like "enlightened, truly masculine Red Pill men", to avoid offending the most alpha of manly men such as yourself by implying that you would be so silly as to have feelings about that issue like those other losers.

But I wanted to make sure to take the time to reward you for your signaled virtue and the attention you are seeking.

Attention all readers of The Red Pill: SKeeter-onmyPeter is a true alpha and is the manliest of manly men. He is not like the rest of you posers, but is a true Red Pill man.

[-] Skeeter_onmyPeter 1 Point 4 months ago

I didn’t say the other readers weren’t red pill. I’m sure some are and some aren’t. My point was that naysayers are quick to dismiss red pill as simply angry but true internalized red pill is not angry. You’re very sensitive.

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[-] bjcm5891 1 Point 4 months ago

Thanks for taking the time to share this. I wish I'd read it 10 years ago, back when I was in my mid 20's and still convinced women always had it better and easier than men for the reasons you outlined. I'm sure a lot of our younger readers (especially those under 25) will get a lot from this.

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[-] punkrockfishboy 1 Point 4 months ago

All I can say, despite the fact that women are treated better in society than men, hell no I wouldn't want to be a woman. Illogical thinking, indecisiveness and not even knowing why they rejected, friendzoned decent men ready to marry. It's even worse to be a woman being exposed to tinder, nightclubs, and the fact you can sell yourself as a whore on chaturbate only to be miserable in your later years. Illogical as they are, they are brainwashed by feminism, which back in my bluepill days, I thought could understand, (wanting to be equal to men, feminist propaganda feeding into their ego, but making them slave away for corporate america). Emotional problems, and don't get me started with the ones with bipolar, borderline personality disorder, or other shit that they can't get a good LTR man. Sure it sucks, that men get treated unfair in society, but at the same time that makes us stronger, and the red pill knowledge from everywhere you read and videos you watch will make us smarter. Men are more logical than women, and women are more emotional then men, (and what I mean by men, is not the incel, whining like a baby beta overgrown adult males, but actually masculine men).

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[-] 1v1crown 1 Point 4 months ago

FUX NO! I like being able to open my own pickle jars.

[-] WingManThunder 1 Point 4 months ago

Even with society tilted in the womens favor I'd rather be a man every second of every day of my life. We got the dicks.

[-] Moolg86 1 Point 4 months ago

Fuck man. You went in on this.

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[-] fcking77 1 Point 4 months ago

Women, just fuck and dump. You can even have a relationship with them, but never get married. They're all whores!

[-] ZarathustraSpenta 1 Point 4 months ago

no id hate to be short weak and bleeding from my crotch for a large portion of my life

[-] Fulp_Piction 1 Point 4 months ago

It's not like as a woman you couldn't take responsibility for your life and make something of yourself. An intelligent woman taking advantage of the world today would be a force to be reckoned with.

[-] yomo86 1 Point 4 months ago

The most insightful post ever. Kudos man

[-] plebbit4444 1 Point 4 months ago

Yes I really wish I was female. You could live the same way you do now but just look nicer.

[-] i_love_chicks 1 Point 4 months ago

Absolutely not. Getting periods and pregnancy is enough for me to not want to be a woman. Being a man is tough, but if this subreddit has taught me anything, it would be to embrace my manhood and embrace the trails that I will face. Nothing is more rewarding that coming out of a tough period and realizing that I’m immensely stronger than I was before. Being a guy fucking rocks. Especially when you realize how malleable male SMV really is. Women don’t have this. They have a few good years and then get to live the remainder of their lives looking back with nostalgia as well as regret.

[-] Oscalev 1 Point 4 months ago

Without reading anything past the title question the answer is no, I would not rather be a woman. The only thing appealing about being one is that if be able to control the world with my tits and pussy. Other than there is nothing good about being a woman.

Patrice O’Neal has a good bit about this very subject, in fact all his material is straight up red pill 101.

I’ll be back to read the rest of your post later when I have time.

[-] incelinthirty 1 Point 4 months ago

If you listen to internet liberals and the media, it sounds like women are taking over the world, but if you actually pay attention, most women aren’t taken that seriously in the real world.

Truer words never been spoken.

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[-] Anikitos940 1 Point 4 months ago

After all, even women are trying to be men nowadays.

[-] javiercer20 1 Point 4 months ago

You should’ve known this since you were 15..... thanks for reinventing the wheel.

[-] tuteror 1 Point 4 months ago

i kind of agree but i think we put too much emphasis on a pretty women's life when we think about living as a woman. Ugly women don't get most of the pluses of being a women. No one buys them drinks and their friends, who are most likely also ugly, don't like going out because of it. This girl either wastes away doing basic things like watching TV and looking though a social media feed or she concentrates on achieving like men. Being ugly doesn't help her in this regard either. On the other side is the attractive and born-rich male. He gets sex on tap just like the average and pretty girls but rarely has life experiences that will shape their character in order to become a realized man. This guy has a very similar life to the women described in this post.

[-] dogeG9 1 Point 4 months ago

period pains every month tho

[-] TRPmc117 1 Point 4 months ago

The girls at my bjj gym aren't like that lol... I never hear them complain.

[-] CainPrice 1 Point 4 months ago

We have a few good ones at mine, and a slew of bad ones who keep hassling the instructor about starting an all-woman self defense class one day of the week so that they don't have to touch any of the men. They could just roll with each other except their attendance is so sporadic that there are never enough of them around any one night.

There's this one short, hefty blue belt who will legitimately smother the shit out of me with her boobs when she mounts and goes for an arm. Not on purpose. She's just got some chest on her and when she gets in a good position, she goes all out. And she's short, so diving for an arm means putting her chest in my face. And we can laugh about the fact that I was gasping for air against her breasts afterward, because it's funny. Remember 20 years ago when women had a sense of humor? In fact, any of the girls who have actually stuck it out for 6 months or more I have to take seriously. Get lazy and let them past my guard and they might legitimately tap me.

But there's this rotating crop of new women at any given time who's just hard to deal with because they don't want to work hard, touch men, show up on time and on a regular basis, or shut the hell up.

[-] TRPmc117 1 Point 4 months ago

Interesting. None of that surprises me. To be fair, I rarely roll with the women at my gym because I'm 6'2" & 200bs, and none of them are my size, so I'm not really in a position to talk. I just haven't observed this at my gym.

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[-] Number8Clone 1 Point 4 months ago

Women are defined by the men they can attract and the men they’ve dated. Otherwise, they’re mostly an empty shell.

Is this an evolutionary trait? Women support the man in whatever way is necessary. The man is the provider, the women fill in the gaps. It was more advantageous for one gender to multitask, handle the menial work, gossip, pry.. in other words be flexible in different areas in order to have a balanced home with the provider. Whether he be an artist, carpenter, warrior, politician. The general majority of women can adapt enough to provide a balanced life with any of these providers even though they are very different mentally.

[-] CainPrice 1 Point 4 months ago

Doesn't matter. Do you care if this is a bug or a feature? It's how women are.

Maybe it served a purpose in the dark times, but we don't live in the dark times. We live in the days of Tinder. So use the knowledge like a modern man instead of worrying about whether a primitive carpenter would appreciate today's women.

[-] Number8Clone 1 Point 4 months ago

Yes, please continue making robots. Kill humans faster by taking away nature's creativity. Its absolutely necessary to understand the modern woman and how she operates, only so you can navigate thru the murky cesspools this earth is entrenched in. Understanding the true balanced nature of a woman, that has been perfected for 300,000 years, will allow for deeper connections in multiple areas of life. Don't get married but understand chaos(female) and creativity(male) are the driving forces of evolution.

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[-] Varsel 1 Point 4 months ago

Nope! Everytime I see a bitch slap a guy, get slugged and knocked on her ass, jump up and go right back for a second helping....who would willingly choose to be THAT stupid...but a 'tard? Everytime I hear of a bitch that got beaten like a dog week after week by the boyfriend or hubby, and kept going back for more....who would willingly choose to be THAT stupid...but a 'tard?

[-] buttgoogler 1 Point 4 months ago

To be honest, I see zero reasons to be mad at women once you swallow the pill. For sure, it's usual during anger phase, but as soon as it ends you can look at them through your brand new "I'm the prize" and "who gives a fuck" lenses.

[-] omegalot 1 Point 4 months ago

Good post but you dragged this out - a couple of paragraphs would have been enough.

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[-] 22oregon22 1 Point 4 months ago

Jesus, you l summed up my ex gf perfectly. Ahh but that big beautiful wall. I love the panic that sets in when women who pissed away their 20’s hit that wall.

[-] Thunderfin 1 Point 4 months ago

Hell no. Men age better, we're seen as leaders and the bonds between us are stronger.

[-] Chaddeus_Rex 1 Point 4 months ago

When a woman in her 20s shows up at my company for a job interview, the first thing all of us who meet with her (all men) think is that any minute, this woman is going to get married. Her boyfriend will propose and she’s going to disappear for a few months to plan a wedding, get married, and have a honeymoon. And after that (or if she’s already married when she interviews), she’s going to get pregnant. Maybe her pregnancy will require bedrest toward the end. Then she’ll have a baby and be on maternity leave. Then she’ll come back, but she’ll constantly be taking off work to do stuff for her kid and need special hours and special treatment. Not to mention, insurance costs for a woman of child bearing age are through the roof. Couple this with the fact that women are usually less willing to undertake new tasks, learn new skills, come early, stay late, and are usually more difficult to work with – and the under the table rule is that unless she’s really spectacular, we don’t hire women under 40. Nobody says it out loud, but it’s just a given. Women may have the advantage in the casual sex and relationship game, but women suck in the workforce.

To be fair, that doesn't really matter that a woman can't get hired at some companies. Women are favored in bartending, in all of the 'good' jobs one works in during university, and if a woman can't find a job after college, she can just get married, no biggie.

Also, your statement that nobody takes women seriously is also blatantly false. I am in the medical field and for two years straight now, we have women outnumbering men in our class. Women also get numerous advantages for admission, numerous scholarships to reduce/eliminate their debt, and constantly new compaigns to increase women in medicine, because there is still somehow not enough of them.

Its clearly better to be a woman.

Why do you think so many guys are taking the tranny route?

[-] CainPrice 1 Point 4 months ago

The medical field is a unique industry reliant on insurance panel approval, remaining Medicare/aid eligible, and compliant with a whole smattering of government requirements. Big hospitals get stipends for putting their employees through diversity training and having a certain percent female doctors with privileges, and things like that.

Pretty much any public sector type job suffers from that. And while those are big, in your face, obvious industries, the huge majority of business is small and medium sized private companies. Some random shipping company, sardine packing plant, burlap bag manufacturer, or even small/medium law or accounting firms aren't hiring 51% female employees to signal their enlightened and diverse nature. A lot more companies than you think have an under-the-table understanding that we just don't hire women unless they're really exceptional somehow. I'm not saying that women across America can't find work or anything like that, but there's a reason that most career women are in California and New York, while most women with jobs in Middle America are secretaries, therapists, realtors, and MLM make-up peddlers.

[-] Chaddeus_Rex 1 Point 4 months ago

Some random shipping company, sardine packing plant, burlap bag manufacturer

Its unlikely women would apply for jobs like that anyway. Women dont go for unskilled labor positions like that and are usually favored in large corporations like thos found in california/new york/toronto

[-] CainPrice 1 Point 4 months ago

A plant manager isn't some low-income, unskilled labor position. It's a dude with a master's in engineering and management experience.

Shipping companies employ a shit-ton of office-working logistics and marketing people, not just truck drivers.

There is a metric fuck-ton of office work out there where the general rule is no 20-something women allowed, except as secretaries.

[-] Chaddeus_Rex 1 Point 4 months ago

So what you are saying is its good to be a man because you can be easily hired to be a wage slave while working for someone else - rather than having the ability to not work, or have advantages in many fields if you do,and even if you fail you can just marry success?

Sounds like a shitty deal to me.

With that said, theres nothing that can be done about it other than beconing the best man you can be. But that doesnt change the fact its better to be a woman in modern society.

[-] CainPrice 1 Point 4 months ago

Everyone's a slave to someone. If you're an employee, you're your boss's slave. But if you're a business owner a contractor, or whatever, you're a slave to your customers and clients, or whoever else gives your company money.

If you're an umeployed woman, you're a slave to playing the pretend game to manipulate whatever man is paying your way. And despite what the manosphere tells you, women don't actually like being in that position. They would rather have a job that pays enough to make rent and buy groceries so they can fuck guys they actually want to fuck instead of having relationships with guys with money.

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And despite what the manosphere tells you, women don't actually like being in that position. They would rather have a job that pays enough to make rent and buy groceries so they can fuck guys they actually want to fuck instead of having relationships with guys with money.

Absolutely. And the basic TRP paradigm (lift, focus on career, have at least one interesting hobby, don't get oneitis) sets men up really well for taking advantage of the situation.

[-] Chaddeus_Rex 1 Point 4 months ago

They would rather have a job that pays enough to make rent and buy groceries so they can fuck guys they actually want to fuck instead of having relationships with guys with money.

And girls can get those easily enough in big companies/academia/find a sugar daddy. My Alma mater is turning iut to be the biggest university in canada with the largest proportion of sugar babies in the country For women it is much easier to fulfill Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs thus leading to more happiness. We can talk about Aristotle's definition of happiness (eudamonia) as much as we like or other philosophical conceptions of happiness, but that only matters to men and only after theyve achieved their maslow's hierarchy. Women are not burdened with such conceptions.

[-] jonpe87 1 Point 4 months ago

If you think that to be a woman is better, you lack empathy.

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[-] teabagabeartrap 1 Point 4 months ago

When I was younger, I always wanted to be a Troll.

A creature driven by instinct, maybe to dumb to know it is dumb.

And then I woke up and understood this is only the fear of the responsibility you have with a working brain. Nowadays my answer is to you question is "oh god NO!"

[-] Balkanskii 1 Point 4 months ago

As a woman, you have two choices :

1)Cling to a worthy man for your whole life, give him kids, look after them and look after him. 2)Go your own way, make something out of you and follow a career.

As a man you don't really have a choice - you have to go your own way and be successful. This is the biggest difference I see between nowadays women and men.

[-] BloodColdRed 1 Point 4 months ago

Love this post but I must say, the redder I get, the more control I have in the sexual marketplace. With cold approach it's still their game, but once they get to know me I own them.

[-] Fulp_Piction 1 Point 4 months ago

It's not like as a woman you couldn't take responsibility for your life and make something of yourself. An intelligent woman taking advantage of the world today would be a force to be reckoned with.

[-] justgotalpha 1 Point 4 months ago

Id choose to be a man everytime.. The wall is undefeated!!

[-] [deleted] 1 Point 4 months ago

Wholeheartedly Female. Am not particularly comfortable with the Male Aesthetic and would much prefer a different kind of social interaction. Knowing what I know now, I would more than likely be a success on both fronts. Alas that shall never be the case.

[-] Moldy_Gecko 0 Points 4 months ago

You repeated yourself like 10x here. You could have cut 75% of this and we'd still get what you're trying to say. I think perhaps you're still angry, which is why the redundancy. But yes, TRPers actually get laid and work on themselves, so we're better off not being women. However, I'm sure incels would probably rather be women.

[-] CainPrice 2 Points 4 months ago

Your average 20 year old in 2019 has a shitty attention span. By the time he gets to the third paragraph of something, he's forgotten what the first paragraph said and needs a reminder.

He also has crappy reading comprehension skills, so saying something 10 times in slightly different ways increases the chances that you'll stumble across at least one way that he'll sort of understand.

Also, there are some really serious dumbasses out there who absolutely will not read anything more than a paragraph long unless it's a numbered or bullet-point list, and I don't want to help them because they're stupid, so I make sure to write posts that they'll click on, see more than a few lines that aren't an easily digestible list, and quickly click away.

[-] Moldy_Gecko 1 Point 4 months ago

Or you're just bad at writing? Is it possible the average 20 something or college student in 2019 is so used to fluffing essays they forgot they said the same thing two paragraphs before? Or reworded it just to sound more edumacated?

[-] Bazino 0 Points 4 months ago

Yes and then I'd be a high priced domina (one of those who vets her clients because some guys are apparently so desperate they actually send pictures, etc. beforehand to an anonymous person) for 3 years and never have to work again ever after. And I'd laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh about how the world was laid down at my feet just because I have a pussy.

[-] zyqkvx 0 Points 4 months ago

If a man opted to be born a woman instead he is forgetting that also means he will not have the save level of grey matter reasoning he had as a man. That means he be able to rock as a woman like he believes he would.

note: I wrote this before reading the post on purpose, am now reading it.

Once in awhile, a good one sticks it out and becomes one of the boys, but she’s a rare gem.

In the real world that's usually more about her game than the actual hobby.

[-] Administrative_Camel 0 Points 4 months ago

But even knowing how easy the sex and relationships game is for women, ask yourself "Would you really rather be a woman?" You hesitate, don't you? The answer isn't yes, despite how much you'd love to have sex on tap.

Speak for yourself friend. Hesitate? Fuck no, the answer is a resounding yes. I swallowed the trannypill years ago and the only thing I regret is not doing it sooner. Being a man sucks ass.

[-] Andgelyo 0 Points 4 months ago

What the fuck kind of question is this? Fuck no, I’m not beat for having dicks inside me, dealing with periods, and giving birth to little fuckers. A million times I’m happy as fuck to be a man. I’m happy to be the one putting my rock hard penis inside the gentile soft warmth flesh of a woman. Hell, I’m happy putting it in multiple women. Yeah it’s rough being a man, but becoming a top percentile man who has options is priceless. It doesn’t take much to be a top percentile man.

[-] krowitz 2 Points 4 months ago

I’m not beat for having dicks inside me

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Yeah. I was waiting for someone to say this. haha

[-] Andgelyo 0 Points 4 months ago

Why the fuck would I want to be a woman? This question is ridiculous. If someone on here is seriously thinking women have it better and it’s better to be female, I think they should get off the red pill and become vegan and shave their legs That’s like saying would you rather pack milk on your journey or aged wine lol the quality of these posts seriously have become past the point of no return

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[-] CainPrice 7 Points 4 months ago

The first world, western alternative is being told how amazing and special you are from the day you're born and never having any incentive to develop any kind of depth as a human being. Spending age 18-35 barely growing as a person, because you're already attracting all kinds of guys who want to date you and have sex with you.

You don't have to work out and stay in shape, just not be too fat or too ugly in the face. You don't have to be that smart or have anything interesting to say. Or have any interesting hobbies or be good at anything. Sure, you can be, but guys are going to be coming after you without any of that.

While sure, some women still decide to do something worthwhile, a very depressing number of women pretty much stop growing as a human being because they get to feel successful without having to do so.

We do women a really, really huge disservice as a society, but really, women do it to themselves.

[-] I_ShouldnotbeHere 0 Points 4 months ago

I'm not too worried about who does what to who. If women do it to themselves or if it's men or both. It's everyone, men and women. What worries me is how many guys here seem to approve of a world view that puts women as actually inferior, and not simply different. What also bothers me is how many here would support the type of teachings I got as a little girl, which damaged me and many women who grew up the same. That's not the way, women raised like that either become pathetic helpless creatures or emotionally damaged people. The solution is neither teaching/telling/treating women as if they are second-class citizens nor making them believe they are great and special simply for being women. The solution is to provide all options and stimulate hard work in all children, male or female, while still allowing for differences based on individual talents/likes, which can in turn be influenced by gender, to flourish.

When I was a kid I loved cars, I told everyone in my family, no one cared too much. I remember one Christmas I got only dolls as presents, and while I liked dolls fine, I wanted a car. Just one. My male cousins got many. I remember sitting by myself somewhere and crying because I was so jealous, holding a new doll and wanting to throw it in the trash. But I thank my mother who eventually listened to me and gave me a damn car. But that's a tiny exemple of many things children experience (boys too) when it comes to adults reinforcing gender roles needlessly. That is not good for anyone.

Men and women are different, all have struggles and each PERSON is different regardless of gender. Just don't lose sight of that when speaking of 'male' and 'female' as generalized categories - which is fine, again, as long as one doesn't lose sight of this.

[-] AyameNoop 1 Point 4 months ago

Think about it; all their life women have been "held down" as you say, but some women have broken past the glass ceiling and moved on to achieved great things, if anything your words do a disservice to the feminists (at least they are good for something) who have been trying to b****slap their sisters awake for years.

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Men on the other hand have had the box they are living in subtly shrunk generation by generation till almost any attempt to break free is met with SJW/Feminazi anger, they go back emasculated to their box and it only goes downhill from there

[-] TheRedPike 2 Points 4 months ago

I'm banning you now because you couldn't be bothered reading the rules before opening your mouth--a theme among people of your cloth that come here. But as a parting gift I give you this bit of knowledge. Your entire screed is about how you feel and not about the objectively reality around you. No one cares about the former. We search for the latter. It may be asking much, but I'm suggesting to you to try it too.

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[-] McVaghunter -10 Point 4 months ago

I'm in a fucking hurry so I'll keep it short, women do not have it easy, they can't fuck the ultimate guy of their dreams (think of cristiano ronalo) but we high SMV guys can fuck the ultimate highest SMV pussy every day, a teenage girl from the block can be hotter than 99% of hollywood actresses and as hot as the 1% left.

Also make a goddamn tl,dr your post is too long.

[-] TacticalPolonium 0 Points 4 months ago

This guy lives amongst us...

^(I'm probably 3500 km away from you but still)

[-] McVaghunter 1 Point 4 months ago

Could you enlighten me on what I said that pissed all these pussies off? "Women do not have it easy" refers to "sex and relationships" ONLY, they do have it easier in family courts other fields but those are not the subject of this discussion.

Fact 1: The ultimate high SMV male: Aesthetics (I know, I know, most of TRP hate lifting for aesthetics but hate it or love it girls love a six pack), wealth (success, not money itself) and power/fame: Only few men has them all at once, making it hard for a girl to get the ultimate guy.

Fact 2: The ultimate high SMV female: Aesthetics, youth and beauty: Most teenage girls fit that, making it easier for us to get the ultimate girl.

Girls has it easier to achieve a high SMV statuts (not the subject of this thread) but men has it easier when it comes to sex and relationships (the actual subject of this thread).

Fucking TRP is turning to MGTOW with all the butthurt.