Guys dont fall for this bullshit, dad bod what a joke They are just scared that their man will become better looking

The entire "Dad Bod" movement, from the female perspective, as such:

Dating a dude with a dadbod takes the pressure off having to maintain your own.

She can feel less guilty about being a chubby slob on the couch if you are too. Fuck. That. Shit.

Hmm, I'm having trouble with this one. Looking at it through the red pill lens I can obviously see it as a shit test to weed out the beta provider types. However on another level, with all the articles and traction this trend is getting, couldn't there end up being a pre-selective quality to it? Just like the man bun, the more these females start seeing their peers being attracted (even if dishonestly) to the dad bod, could they not genuinely start being more attracted to it?

This is my perspective as a gay man.

"Dad bods" are alpha with a high SMV. The article isn't about any out of shape, skinny or obese "average" beta bux and the "dad bod" isn't a body shape everybody can accomplish. From the article, "The dad bod is a nice balance between a beer gut and working out."

The "dad bod" is a certain type of guy with a specific ratio of fat and muscle. "Dad bods" may go to the gym now and then but splurge on pizza at the same time. The "dad bod" is like the body type of football players, a body guard, or a bouncer at a club.

Those guys have testosterone so high they could pound a guy with perfect six pack abs while barely working out. They're the natural/original "alphas" before supplements and artificial routines like working out.

Of course guys who work out have high SMV as well but sometimes it just feels artificial and effeminate from the perspective that the guy is focusing too much on appearance or is high maintenance. He's also not a "natural alpha" but has to work to earn his status.

It's perfectly natural for different individuals to be attracted to different body types. Some like dad bods and some like bodybuilders. As a gay man, I can attest to it being no hoax or feminist trap behind the appeal of the "dad bod". It's a misconception to think you need 5% body fat to be considered attractive.

(I will admit the article didn't give good reasons for why a "dad bod" is attractive, though. Women have a tendency to not understand physical attraction as well, IMO. Doesn't mean that they have ulterior motives; but, just that they can't explain why they like a physical trait as well.)

TLDR; Work out but at the same time sometimes it also pays to keep a little bit of stomach.

The article I read about this opened with something to good to be true, and read as follows.

"What do Simon Cowell, Jason Segel and Leonardo DiCaprio all have in common (apart from global fame and fortune)? They all boast a 'Dad Bod" .........."

dad bods is about their insecurity, not about their attraction

they are still attracted to chad thundercocks, they are just too insecure to keep him as BB. they will just cheat or divorce instead.

Women like the dad bod so they can stop trying, get fat and fuck around on the side any ways.

The dad bod. Think about who's dad she's talking about. her kids out if wedlock silly

The dad bod is fine if you're a high value male like Leonardo Dicaprio. But you are not Leonardo Dicaprio so don't stop lifting.

this mindscrew horseshit is disturbing

This reminds me of Brandon's talk.

"Big muscles for girls are like big titties for men."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JOOE4TSjZY

Part of it is signalling. Gay men took over the gymrat demographic 20 years ago. It is fairly common for women to bemoan that all the best men are married or gay. The fact that gay men are competing for other men who are visually stimulated, they have a double incentive to hit the gym and get a six pack. They result is that so many gay men are in great shape that a straight man who looks great may be mis-signalling that he is gay. I've heard the opinion on more than one occasion that a ripped guy looks kind of gay to women. It's because so many gays are ripped.

It's also a competition thing as others have noted. A ripped dude can go off and fuck any cute thing that happens by. Women only crave alpha for a few days a month when they are ovulating. The rest of the time they prefer a provider who isn't going to run off with his resources--someone who provides security. A dad-bodied male.

Another part of it is laziness. She doesn't want to have to keep up and stay fit herself. The mark of a good girlfriend or wife is one who, when she notices you getting ripped, is motivated to start lifting herself to get toned, or takes up yoga or something. Your self improvement should trigger self improvement in her. It shows that she does indeed look up to and follow your leadership.

I believe this is a way of shit testing. Does a beer belly truly attract sexually?

2 things happen when you go for the dad bod. Your wife can no longer worry about her figure. Since you are going to get less attention from any competition she can now do less for you. Stay fit! Whether it is to keep her being a loyal wife or so that if she decides to fuck the relationship over you can recover quickly to a new trophy.

These girls aren't lying... Or at least they think they don't. Many in this thread are misunderstanding the message here. This is in reference to what college girls are saying, which is a completely different sexual market than the real world.

Most of the high SMV guys on college have dad boss. But they aren't high SMV because of dad bods, they are high SMV because of social status (fraternity bros, know this quite well was one myself) and the women penning these articles are just misplacing their attraction. On campus a frat guy from a strong house is higher SMV than anyone besides big sport athletes, even if there's a little chubiness. If you are a gym rat with a six pack but are a gdi your SMV is lower than a dad bod frat guy 9 times out of 10. But of course within a fraternity the most in shape guys still do the best. And some girls don't like muscular guys because they know themselves they could never pull those kinds of guys. Once graduation hits and people separate from the odd economics Greek life at state schools creates you will see another shift, more towards careers and healthier bodies

Basic premise is this: article is bullshit, no one likes the dad bod on the gdi with no friends, but the frat star who has access to major parties and his daddies cash? Then it doesn't look so bad

Hahahaha this is brilliant. Poor blinded peasants need a dose of reality. Dad bod = insecurity and singledom.

My time has finally arrived...

A girl once told me: 'I would never want to have a boyfriend who has a sixpack, because guys don't get sixpacks for just one woman.'

Any woman would prefer a man who has six pack abs, but not all of them are willing/ self secure enough to go into competition for such a man.

Or maybe tgey are simply rationalising why they don't have a boyfriend with six pack abs. Sour grapes and such.

Dad bod sounds more like dead body ;)

"Better cuddling. No one wants to cuddle with a rock. Or Edward Cullen. The end."

Muscle is soft when it's not flexing, holy fucking retards.

LOL the guys and girls dumb enough to buy into this shit always crash and burn.

When i was in high school, the hottest chick in my grade(picture Anne Hathaway's face with JLO's body) dated nothing but beta provider type of guys. All the relationships ended up with her cheating with Chad Thundercock at parties. I remember her coming from a fairly conservative family, so i assumed they conditioned her to not be a sloot, but instead date a "nice guy" who will provide for her.

Now shes in college, in an LTR with a "dad bod" guy, and continues to cheat at parties, while hes convinced he found his disney fairy-tale princess.

Don't believe this hamsterganda. It's like when your girl says "why are you working out, you look fine the way you are." They say shit like this to keep you down and tilt the playing field in their favor.

Pay attention to what they do not what they say. Go to the gym or beach and see what gets women excited. Definitely not "dad bods".

Next up in Bizarro World: men just love the mom bod. The sagging tits and ass, the crows feet around her eyes, the thousand cock stare, the mom jeans 6 sizes larger than when you married her. This is what real men like. There's just more woman to love!

Failure Culture rearing its ugly head again.

Can I get some clarification when it comes to lifting? What are you guys talking about? The idea of "lifting" is pretty vauge you have 3-4 different body types from power lifters to bloated pre-competition body builders to guys just athletic and not fat asses.

I know this contributes absolutely nothing worthwhile to the conversation... But what the FUCK did I just read? I mean... Fuck it, I'm done with the Internet for the evening.

I'm sure women like to cuddle with a "dad bod" but guess what kind of body triggers the animalistic desire to fuck?

Hint: it doesn't have manboobs

I've heard a lot of it in the past few years. It's just another feel good bullshit but this time is male-oriented. They even dared to say being fat makes you better in bed. Feel-goodness on steroids.

As if people need any more encouragement to be mediocre...

Seems pretty objective.

I've met chicks who absolutely love skinny, sucked up looking dudes who are covered in tattoos and have lots of piercings.

I even know some fitness chicks who apparantly love chubby men which is so bizzare to me.

I workout for me. I want to take off my clothes and be able to look at myself and think "Impressive". I don't do it for the sole purpose of attracting a shallow woman. I want the body structure and posture that commands respect and something that I'm happy with which is all that matters.

As a guy who used to have a "Dad Bod" before hitting the gym and working on caloric intake- NO, GIRLS ACTUALLY DON'T LIKE CUDDLING IF YOU HAVE A BEER BELLY AND WEIGH MUCH MORE THAN YOUR FRAME IS SUPPOSED TO SUPPORT.

Its a fad and should only be treated as such. Last I checked, every single girl out there whether they are fat skinny with high or low SMV prefer guys who are ripped, tall, good looking, and overall Alpha af.

If you're a beta like I used to be (and coming to terms with myself/beliefs even after swallowing trp), please don't think this is true. Seriously.

After the author of that article gets taken to taco tuesday and cuddles through the movie The Notebook with the cooperative man who respectfully embraced the idea of the 'dad bod', Chad will receive a late night text from her to come over, and his initial time investment will be even less than before.

It's also a built in excuse when they branch swing to say, "I'm just not that attracted to you..."

I happen to know a few girls that like pudgy guys. Fine ass ones too. That being said I'm 100% certain that they wouldnt think twice about being fucked by a jackhammer.

This article talks about eating on Sundays and cuddling and what not, aka the beta bux strategy. So its not untrue. They still want to get pounded hard by a man bun, but that's not what they are talking about here.

But keep one thing in mind boys. Men are the physical ones no doubt, there's a lot more to a man than his looks unlike a woman. Work out for yourself. Stay fit because its what's best for you. Its in your best interests in more realms than pussy. The grade a tail is a side effect. A good one nonetheless.

'Dad bods' remove the tense transition through: carousel -> wall -> beta bucks... then the usual follows, of course -> ride income till no longer fun -> 1/2 assets (cash and prizes) / alimony (jobless paychecks) / child support (child without the expense).

I must say, my dad bod hasn't been too much of a problem. Being 6'4" definitely doesn't hurt, and its more like an expecting father bod, not full blown dad bod.

I should stop drinking so much. After I finish this Kentucky derby beer....

Dismissed it as nonsense the moment I heard about it

I've always hated the "fat people are better for cuddling" nonsense. Think about it: If cuddling is the foundation of your relationship it will fail, plain and simple. No matter how jacked you get, when you're relaxed and lounging, you will be soft enough to cuddle against; no guy flexes his whole body as hard as he can for the entirety of a cuddling session and, even if he did, I would argue that a girl could still make herself comfortable. Besides, she'd quickly become intoxicated from the emotional comfort of "this big strong man makes me feel safe" even if she was was physically not as comfortable as she might like.

The cuddling argument is some of the weakest rationalization in circulation.

Instructions unclear. Heavier kettlebells ordered.

This is women living in the moment and being trapped by the concept of seeking perfection each day.

In that day and moment, what they mean rings true. Being a slut was right for THAT day, but tomorrow they are innocent creatures seeking a mate that will be a great provider. Yet, on the next day they will seek someone to dick them down something retarded.

In that MOMENT and DAY, the "Dad bod" is the sexiest thing to them. Tomorrow though, not so much.

They have no philosophy behind what they do. Its like dealing with a light switch. Men need to stop giving up there power and realize that focusing on themselves and controlling their own reality is for the good of them, her, and his family if he has one.

Women with power will flip flop left and right. They can not control it because they really don't have it. What is a porn star without her fans?

Do not go for the "Dad bod". Focus on mastering yourself and the world around you, while at the same time committed to your belief and purpose in life to the point of it becoming your ignorance.

Stop letting women have power over you. They have none except the power that you as a man give. Control your reality and you control this bitch. This is what she wants deep down. True freedom lies in restriction. BDSM isn't popular just because of "50 Shades" and the surface level view of whips and chains. Its deeper than that.

http://associationofchronos.com/2015/05/02/the-misunderstanding-of-womens-power/

The lengths people will go to justify being out of shape always amaze me, especially when it takes up more of your time than just fucking exercising.

I've gone ahead and read that post and put it up on Soundcloud: available here.

Seems like it got deleted from Mixcloud...

"We don't want a guy that makes us FEEL insecure about our body. We are insecure enough as it is. We don't need a perfectly sculpted guy standing next to us to make us FEEL worse....the smaller we FEEL and the better we look next to you in a picture."

It's all about how she feels inadequate next to someone who takes care of himself.

When listening to women talk train yourself to listen to the "F" words: Feel, Feeling and Felt.

Yet another subconscious sexual strategy to weed out beta bucks and men with poor genes. Do you know why women ridicule men who lift weights? Because it fucks with their selection process. For most of human history you were either big and muscular or you weren't. By bodybuilding you essentially hide your genetics by using modern training techniques to improve a poor physique. Women want men who have good genes naturally, that's why they are so obsessed with face, wrist size and height.

Hear about this the other day, told my friends it was the dumbest shit I'd ever heard. They agreed. A lot of us have dad bods, and none of us are dads, so we weren't exactly pleased to hear it was "in".

You notice that none of those statements talk about how it is actually attractive. Just reasons why it's okay to be less attractive.

There are two tracks to the female mating strategy. Both are good for women. Only one is good for you.

When I heard about the dadbod, my first thought was, "This is a girl saying she wants a guy to be a frat jerkboy type, but she doesn't want to have the competition anxiety of dating a man that really takes care of himself or is on his shit"

So if you want to go to Taco Tuesday or $4 pitcher Wednesday, he'd be totally down.

The man decides where to go.

It doesn't intimidate us - We don't need a perfectly sculpted guy standing next to us to make us feel worse.

Have fun being cuckolded. Never let a girl get too comfortable

I fucking saw this post, urged, then went again about my day.

Now, I agree a 45 year old boss doesn't need an immaculate body, but in no circumstance does beer belly cut it.

This is the exact reason why asking women how to be attractive never works, because they'll say this shit.

Better cuddling. No one wants to cuddle with a rock. Or Edward Cullen. The end.

They're right. Girls want to fuck Edward Cullen.

It's shaming. The girl wants to bring the guy down to her level and lower so the guy CAN'T leave when the girl starts to get lazy or messed up like cheating.

Girls will act complete different in want they believe or want to just get what they want.

While men are taking the stairs to the top, women are taking the elevators.

This is what's called an "average" male body. Some signs of physical activity but not that many, and plenty of eating but no obesity.

The idea that your average girl should be attracted to your average male body should be totally uncontroversial. It's the equivalent of the average guy being into the "girl next door" aka average female body.

The fact that there is so much obesity in this country and that there are all these confused movements to make people pretend that obesity is OK has so confused the media that they are now searching for some euphemism for "normal" and then claiming its a trend.

Needless to say at TRP we advocate being above average.

Am I the only one who loves this kind of misinformation?

It's like being in on some sick joke.

Shut up about the fucking dadbod already.

It's fucking clickbait. It's propelled cuz it's a neat and catchy idea and the articles would get attention. Nobody on the internet is taking it seriously. It's the same sensationalism as any buzzfeed article, scraping the bottom of the barrel for writing material.

Do me a favor and just pretend you never saw it.

Have you seen Amanda Mull who invented the "Dad bod" ?? She's 25 but looks 35 and overweight (let's call it "mom bod"). What else can she do but pretend she like fat guys ?

We know what we are getting into when he's got the same exact body type at the age of 22 that he's going to have at 45.

Good luck with that if you think a skinny fat isn't going to turn into a planet by the time he's middle aged

They cannot withstand the sight of a body which went through so much to achieve without feeling completely ashamed by their own lack of efforts.

Don't let them fool you into dropping your standards for this Hamsters.

Be the Standard she follows up to.

Sounds like more feminist shit designed to trick the beta into revealing themselves and to further optimize hypergamy.

Funny shit, I had a female at work today, say "Once you get tired of going to the gym, every day.. You will grow a belly and have a MAN'S BODY!" Nah, I think I'll keep my washboard abs.

It's not entirely untrue. You have to have a lot of male sexual characteristics, but girls do find it attractive, for example a full beard as well as some real muscle. They want it for a boyfriend though, not for AF.

I don't currently have the time or resources to go to the gym, but I know for a fact that I can lift over 400 lbs, because my job is very physical, and many of the heavier things I lift are labeled as such. I'm also 30 lbs over weight today. I'm basically a dadbod with some real muscles. I get better reactions from women than when I was skinny fit at built fat, and have had 6-7s that used to be 8-9s follow me around. I also get literally hungry looks sometimes from women I find attractive enough. I get dismissive looks too though.

That doesn't mean being in actually good shape isn't much better, but there is truth to the dad bod thing. You can reach the 80 percent or near to it some places and still have quite a large beer gut, and they love that they think they can get comfortable. It's not going to get you into the 5% though, or even the 10%, and letting women get too comfortable is a bad idea, which is why I need to lose that 30 lbs.

There is truth in it, though. When women are asked what they attracted to, it's pretty unlikely they're thinking about what kind of dick they want to be stuffed with. They're probably thinking about who they want to date and spend time with.

Does the dad bod get laid more? Hell no.

Is the nice, confident pudgey guy who knows how to have a good time a little less intimidating, and probably more enabling of a woman's current lifestyle, be it good or bad? I don't think anyone here can deny that.

Just from my personal experience, as a guy with a good, lean muscular body, in a fraternity in a southern college. Girls don't really seem to hesitate when it comes to the one night stand, but things fizzle out pretty soon because I don't want to get plastered every night or pig out on shitty tacos.

The "Dad Bod" is a great indicator trait for a provider male.

Do you wanna be mistaken for beta bucks? Didn't think so.

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I can go to Taco Tuesday. I just don't eat very many tacos. Also, I do strategize my eating. When I am at a party, I socially eat. I get a single plate and eat a little of everything. I am eating to socialize, not to feed myself so I only eat a little. That way I am thinking about what I'm eating. Also, they are talking to average people. Who may feel more comfortable with that type of body.

Last thing you want is a comfortable woman, you want her to be enjoying life on her toes with you.

The feminist feminine imperative casts a culture wide shit test yet again. Good to be on the other side laughing at this, immune, rather than caught up in the vortex of bullshit.

It's like fat people telling you that "you need more meat on your bones". Dismiss upon arrival.

"Nobody wants to cuddle with a rock" oh yes they do.

You should work out, because it makes you healthy. You should also work out, because fat discrimination is REAL.

Being more attractive, just happens to be a bonus.

Seriously, a lot of the super rich, and the upper class people, run marathons. Why? Because its a means of reinforcing dominance. it sends the message "I am in charge, not only because i am smarter, but because i am more capable". Whether or not the "more capable" part is true is besides the point, its the perception that matters.

Yeah I had a girlfriend years ago who told me she wanted me to get a belly.

I know an ex coworker, about 20 years old, she's a single mom. Before I knew she was a mom, she told me she likes fat guys. I couldn't believe it, the girl was so hot. When I found out she was a mom, it made way more sense. She's on the hunt for provider-man who she can emotionally and sexually manipulate into sticking around and raining money onto her like Super Mario coins.

Remember guys: the higher your bodyfat, the higher your estrogen and the lower your testosterone. There is an almost direct link. Less bodyfat = stronger libido, clearer thinking, more drive, more energy, etc. etc. Not to mention you look way fucking better naked and can wear clothes that don't strangle you.

This article = direct to trashbin.

This "Girls love Dadbod" bullshit was made to make the beta bux feel better while they got cuckholded

I dont work out to attract women, I work out for my physical and mental health. I was told by a woman. I dated many moons ago that they dont like fit sexy guys because they are always the ones to leave. They aren't into men they cant control.

I agree that fitness is great for the mind & soul.

But all you "alpha" male hamsters....I suggest this:

Instead of worry so much about refining the aesthetics of your body, why not just train women everyday by your actions that they are not in your league.

Basically by competing with each other to have that super body that women seem to crave, why waste so much time competing & all work towards training women to serve your needs.

Then once women in general are trained you don't have to work so fkn hard competing against other males.

Competing against other males is a capitalism trick to get you to waste your lives fighting each other for resources.

as a dude who has a belly, I actually think this is real. Also, the subtext here is that most girls have daddy issues and you remind them of their dad.

Heard a friend talk about it and I was so amazed that there was a genuine article discussing the Dad bod. Absolutely hilarious to hear it after swallowing the pill. Less competition for me and more BB to help keep women on the CC

Sounds like the male equivalent to fat beauty in women. sexual attraction toward fit bodies > anything less.

Guy on the left looks okay. Guy in the middle is borderline. Guy on the right needs to lose some weight.

If you have a ripped body as a byproduct of a hobby you love unrelated to trying to impress women, i.e. you're a professional model who monetizes their looks, you love to box, or both, for example, then kudos.

If you obsessively train to try and impress chicks . . . well, you don't really like yourself that much because you're trying to use your body as currency to buy their approval, and not because you particularly care about being healthy. There is lots of evidence to indicate that having a body fat percentage that is too low can be problematic. Sure, it can look good, but underneath the skin, there could be tendon issues brewing, and your thinking may suffer, as the brain requires a fair amount of fat to run properly. Also, fat insulates, and can act as protective padding.

Ideally, you have the "correct" amount of fat on your body. Whatever that is could be anyone's guess. Obviously, if you look like the Michelin man, you're probably doing it wrong. Likewise, if you're scrawny and look like Kip from Napoleon Dynamite, you're doing it wrong.

From a personal standpoint, I generally eat healthy; occasionally, I'll eat some bread, a soda, or something with sugar in it. I don't drink much alcohol, don't smoke, or do drugs.

I get a fair amount of exercise. I lift weights, dance, stretch, and now do boxing for HIIT. HIIT was the missing component for me. My primary interest is in my overall health. If my body looks great, it's as a byproduct. I started HIIT because I was having issues with running and dancing, and I didn't want to give up the dancing. Dancing isn't really good for cardio, at least not the kind I do.

I've found that doing progressively challenging ab exercises does wonders for the mid-section, as well as eliminates back pain. It basically puts your gut on auto-suck-in without having to think about it. I know I could probably get a six-pack, but I do like to eat, and I hate obsessively counting calories; so I'm content with my "good-enough" body.