I see this image being created of the ideal relationship being one of the super submissive feminine female with the super dominant masculine male. It sounds good on paper but you should be seeking balance in yourself and in your partner. Submissive doesn't have to mean weakness and victimhood. She should be strong enough to keep herself together without your constant attention. Being the one to make every decision in the relationship sounds great if you never had control over anything before, but the reality can be exhausting.
There is a danger period in learning game, TRP, pickup, whatever.. Where men think they are winning but fail to screen properly beyond a few traits. Beware of the super submissive woman.
Red Flags:
She is not just submissive to you. She is constantly seeking outside council for her own life from friends, family, coworkers, television, etc.. The truth is, you are not, nor should you want to be, the only person in her life. If she does not have enough self esteem to be assertive with others in her world, your relationship will have so many outside influences that it can never succeed. Her friends and family are not on the same page with you and your goals.
She is unable to make decisions in her domain. "What should I wear?" "What should I cook?" "What restaurant should we go to for my mom's birthday?" And a thousand other questions you don't give a shit about.. You do not want the extra work. And don't be surprised when she over compensates by making decisions with no real reason but to get it over with
She is the scapegoat/caregiver for all of her friends. At first you might think it is a positive, that she cares for people.. But the truth is she may have made herself the tampon of the group. Your problems will never be as important as her friend who just had a bad breakup, her meth addicted ex roomate's custody battle, her coworker from ten years ago's mom dying, some girl you never heard of got too drunk and needs a ride home at 2am.. Be prepared to look like and feel like an asshole for expecting to be the center of her attention when there is a crisis happening in one of 50 other people's lives. You want a woman who will be a mother to your children, not a mother to 10 dysfunctional adults.
She gets fucked over by various people and never does anything about it.. Her mechanic ripped her off. nothing happened. Her landlord fucked her over. Nothing you can do about that.. Her sister borrowed money and will never pay her back.. Well that's just how life goes sometimes.. You do not want to put yourself in the position of trying to save her from these people. You can't show too much anger either or tell her that she is responsible for putting them in their place.. They worked the same alpha male dominance on her and she accepts it.
She thinks 20 pounds is heavy and expects you to carry things for her all the time. There is a huge range of physical strength before a woman starts to appear bulky or overly masculine. A fit, normal looking woman should be able to throw a 70 pound child over her shoulder and carry them up steps. If she is unable to do that, she does not work out and is unfit for the responsibilities of LIFE. Being feminine does not mean being physically weak. If you think it's cute that she asks you to do little things like that, remember it will not be cute after you worked 10 hours on some construction site and she expects you to do all the "heavy lifting" around the house after that as well.
She feels no need to be able to change a tire, check oil or have even basic knowledge of automobiles.. Again, you will not constantly be with her. She should look forward to learning new things that can help her in the future, not feel like she doesn't have to because a man will always be there. Do you really want to drop everything and drive 30 minutes to change a flat on her car because you both decided that is "your job"?
So there are a few things to screen for when looking for a quality woman. Life is about balance. Bad things happen. You want someone who will be an asset and not a constant liability to your happiness and lifestyle. The super submissive girl will make your life easy for a little while, but be on the lookout for signs of balance in her personality.
shipintbrief 5y ago
That's not submissive, that's weak. "Submissive" implies that not to submit is an option, person you described doesn't seem to have that.
DubbleFUPAwitCheez 5y ago
Don't be afraid of those "ball buster" women. They can be broken and turned into kittens just like the others, then you won't have to worry bout this and since the entry barrier is so high you also don't have to worry about other guys as much. It's a battle of wills like with most things involving males and females. I just look at it as someone has to be the tyrant in a relationship so it's going to be me. At least I know I'll be magnanimous.
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Holy shit. The first red flag described my ex perfectly
RXP36 5y ago
Had a woman that was submissive and too easily influenced by her friends and family. You don't want a woman like that because she will not stand up for herself. She will constantly be swayed by their judgment and validation and if it's not in your favor, things will go downhill fast. She won't be strong standing up for herself. Doesn't matter how good you are to her if they don't like you, it's only a matter of time before it's over. But that's okay because she'll have to live with your absence, and she'll look back on how some people who weren't even looking out for her best interest, fuck up good things for her.
drkinferno72 5y ago
You end up having to do all the work. Her stroking your back is the peak of participation
acekilo 5y ago
Spent 8 yrs in OKINAWA and I was on Camp Futenma and Camp Kinser. Got out the Marine Corp after 14yrs now I'm in the Army getting ready to retire.
dnkfkr 5y ago
I think alot of this comes down to discipline and personal responsibility. Girls that ask 20 different questions and can't make decisions are typically people that cannot take responsibility for their own actions. They will blame external factors when things go wrong, and chalk it up to serendipity when they go right. Someone who owns their actions will complain less, and these types of "20 questions" scenarios wont even exist
ebaymasochist 5y ago
True.. Screening for discipline and personal responsibility is very important
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Lol my girl weighs 90 pounds.
MentalMonkey16 5y ago
You Just described my ex fiancee exactly
rigbed 5y ago
The woman I know who fits this description suffers from anxiety but also doesn’t parent others so maybe I don’t know anyone who fits this description.
ebaymasochist 5y ago
It's not really a description of one person, just a few different examples of red flags for LTR. Other people have commented that it's actually a mixture of insecure, passive and submissive
JeromeRamone 5y ago
Submission is a tacit acknowledgement that she and you both agree that she is intellectually, professionally and personally your inferior. Submission is near impossible to procure from women who were allowed to attain more prestigious and lucrative career paths. She is still your inferior and she is worth less but she is encapsulated in the delusion that the merit of her accomplishments earns her a place as your peer. It takes a cyclonic amount of sexual degradation and belittlement to reallign most careerist girls’ self esteem back to a natural and appealing state of self doubt and deprication. Masculine achievements and drive gift them with inappropriate self confidence and self determination that is really unseemly in girls.
That is how you gage submission. Does she understand that she is not your peer and thus beneath you.
redvelvet_oreo 5y ago
Great post. In my recent experience though alot of women these days are the opposite and are over masculine and overly annoying due to it. My LTR try to always be the "alpha" and I have to shut that shit down most of the time. (Constantly trying to be the leader, always trying to make the plans and put me in her frame. She is like this with her friends but I let her know play time is over when she is with Daddy)
From time to time i let it go and i do benefit from it but it gets tiring really fast when a girl thinks she should be the leader. It just leads to alot of headbutting. Making plans is a shit show with these kinds of women. If I had to pick one of the two evils I would go with the sub.
wisdom_is 5y ago
Why are you with her? This only means that your relationship is doomed for failure.
redvelvet_oreo 5y ago
I like being with her. It usually comes off as humorous to me. The only time it gets annoying is when I’m busy from working and am exhausted from working all Kinds of hours and traveling. If I wasn’t TRP aware I’d be fucked and it would have ended a long time ago. It’s classic feminism conditioning at its best. She still is looking to be dominated by a masculine man which is why it’s lasted this long.
Also to note when serious shit happens all that Alpha female shit goes out the window and they tuck their tail and hide and need a strong man to latch on to.
hopelessworthless 5y ago
I wonder though what’s the difference between “super submissive” and just plain stupid.
I can’t help being attracted to the “submissive” type as kinda fits your description. They’re also the nicest to me. But I also found them lacking critical thinking skills. Even I think they are intelligent in some areas but stupid in all the rest.
My ex for example used a wet wash cloth to clean a dusty paperback book. She was also incapable of making her own decisions..
Though she did well in school.
So I’ve always been stuck on how to find a good girl who doesn’t lack these critical skills.. perhaps it’s not really critical thinking but submissiveness I dislike though.
Field_Of_View 5y ago
They always do. Literally the dumbest girls do well in school. Shows you how useless school has become.
bpype 5y ago
Perfectly balanced. As all things should be
acekilo 5y ago
My wife is from Japan and she's submissive but I taught her many things especially about Credit scores and how the system in America works. Been Married for 13yrs and not saying she's one in a million but most Okinawan girls are loyal to their men. Most of my friends Married Japanese women and their all HAPPILY MARRIED WITH KIDS.
ebaymasochist 5y ago
Where you on base there, by chance?
acekilo 5y ago
Spent 8 years in OKINAWA. Camp Futenma and Kinser. Got out the Marine Corp after 14yrs and joined the Army. Getting ready to retire in a few years
ebaymasochist 5y ago
My dad was there during Vietnam. He talks about it all the time. Thanks for your service
acekilo 5y ago
Thanks. I'm moving back when I retire. I never felt more free than when I travel overseas. If every man had a chance to travel and see what's out there, their views on life WILL change. 90% of men growing up in this new era are LOST. Your dad probably have so much stories to tell that he can write books. I'm reading a book called The Boy Crisis and every man should read it. ESPECIALLY if you have a son.
twdziki 5y ago
Yeah, at times this sub goes too far with admiration of the doormat virgin. I want a woman to bang, not a child to babysit because she's literally unable to do anything without a man at her side.
Robster25 5y ago
The post is true. At first it seems nice to date a woman who is constantly submissive, because you can enjoy being dominant and being the protector.
The downside is: you have to be dominant all the time. You can't let your guard down and you have to be on point all the time. Submissive women are great to improve yourself, because you have to be grinding all the time to keep that dominant frame, but they are also the most stressful type of women when it comes to dating.
And major red flag (at least what I experienced): Many submissive women have daddy issues that's why they are looking for a strong man to lead them (more than a healthy woman). And daddy issues means they are whores because they are looking for love their daddys refused to give them from other men. Lots of other men.
ebaymasochist 5y ago
This is spot on.. And they do not have healthy expectations at all. If their daddy issues include abandonment, they will be heavy on manipulation to keep you around. They will tell you what they want to hear, until something clicks and they want you to leave.. Then it's come back, come back. Guys need to be aware of this stuff on here. There is plenty of advice about game that works very well to attract this kind of girl, almost exclusively. It might be a year down the road before the truth reveals itself. Screening is critical to success, period.
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360_no_scope_upvote 5y ago
You're post revealed more about yourself than it does anything else. If being dominant is unnatural for you to the point that it's a grind you need to reevaluate
Robster25 5y ago
Grinding for me is staying focused on your goals and actively persuing them. Submissive women don't allow you to lose focus of your goals, otherwise they will see you as weak. I believe to be a dominant person and I'm enjoying the grind, but sometimes I like to relax, too. Maybe I didn't explain myself well enough. Thank you for your concerns, though!
trollreign 5y ago
I agreed up to the point where you started talking about women lifting stuff. Sure, she should be able to carry her own backpack or whatever, but you are the man and you have to deal with the housework that requires strength. If you can't accept that, then why would the woman accept her responsibilities as a woman? How many of us are REALLY working at construction sites? Most of us go to a special place with iron plates and bars just so that we have some physical activity in our lives.
A woman who is not only a woman in name but actually plays the role of a woman and is feminine is worth the extra bits of physical work. I don't give a shit if my woman doesn't know anything about car maintenance.
However, I'm with you when you talk about how the women who are submissive to you are also submissive to their friends, family, coworkers, etc. This creates a lot of issues, because she will keep complaining about problems in her life that are simply due to her not being able to stand up for herself. She will also tend to uncritically take advice from people, regardless of whether their advice is valuable. I dated a very nice feminine, submissive woman once and she kept taking life advice from one of her coworkers, who was a 37 year old single woman fucking her 55 year old landlord. She pretended to be happy where she is in life by coming up with bullshit art projects and "creative hobbies", but had mental breakdowns on the regular.
red_philosopher 5y ago
There's a difference between submissive and respectful. People don't get that at all.
ebaymasochist 5y ago
I'm a doomsday prepper with a 3 year old son.. My woman better damn well be able to carry him 3 miles uphill with 2 gallons of water on her back. I understand some people never get real exercise but shit happens in the world and then nature starts selecting for traits like physical strength again.. Like I said these are life responsibilities that people used to have before being replaced with machinery and other conveniences. Her being able to change a tire on the side of the road might be the difference between her getting home safely and getting abducted by some fake tow truck driver
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max_peenor 5y ago
So I had a plate that Legal Cohabiting Female knew. I wouldn't call them friends but they talked frequently long before I got up in her ass. This young lass didn't get anything from me except dick. Nothing. She knew I was married. She knew that wasn't going to change.
She got invited to a party at my place by LCF. She came over. She is naturally very submissive, particularly around me. The entire evening I had to tell her where to sit, what to drink, who to talk to and whatnot, and I towered over her most of the night. If I didn't do that's she would just sit there almost like a robot that powered down. She had fun. We went somewhere else and fucked after the party was over.
LCF was fucking pissed at me. What, because I had some side ass at a party in our home? Uh no, she invited her. No. She railed on me about how I treated her, because I was never like that with her. Yeah, you big, angry mick, you were supposed to be this liberated powwweeerrr grrrrr!
Wtf?
I was probably around the time I put the pill on my tongue.
riot2100 5y ago
It’s definitely good to have a woman with a little backbone. No one wants to constantly have to care for their girl like a baby (and no one should), she should be able to hold her own in pressuring situations and carves her own path just like you’re doing as well. My last LTR literally told me that some dude was hitting on her right before we met up and she said word for word, “I shattered his frame on the spot”. If you had no resistance, no shit testing when meeting her for the first time, what makes you think that she’s going to magically resist other men?
artledra 5y ago
As much as I agree with you, I think you missed the correct terminology. Those types of women (and men, for that matter) are not submissive. They are passive mules, and very good ones at that. Submissiveness is a whole another story.
Just adding to that, another thing to be aware of is women with weak or barely nonexistent social circle, which include not only friends but also family.
If she has no one to turn to for support, entertainment, etcetera, she's going to cling on you for everything and if she doesn't go particularly well with your friends and/or doesn't particularly enjoy the things you enjoy as leisure, you're going to have a horrible time with a clingy and needy person that is ALWAYS spending energy to get you out of your frame and stop living your own life in order to accompany her on hers (albeit unknowingly) because she has no one else to bother.
People should always have their own separate lives and privacy to some degree, and excessive contact is a surefire way to wear a relationship out.
Beware of mules and loners. More often than not, you think you're getting a companion and you end up with a child to take care of.
ebaymasochist 5y ago
Thank you. This is very good info.. And I feel like guys need to be on the lookout for a bait and switch
Sir_Distic 5y ago
Submissive doesn't mean mindless doormat. I've know women who were lawyers, executive assistants, nurses, real estate agents etc who are very submissive.
You're finding the wrong women, and you're not vetting well enough, if that's the case. Find a woman who can submit but has her own life and you'll be much happier. When she's around you she should be adoring and obedient. When she's not she should be doing her own thing.
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simplisticallysimple 5y ago
TL;DR She'll depend on you like a child. Go for it if you like babysitting.
red_philosopher 5y ago
Submissiveness isn't a problem when proper boundaries are enforced. What you are talking about is a woman with NO boundaries. That's not submissiveness, that's mental servitude, a slave. This translates into a disrespect for you, albeit inadvertently. You don't want someone with a slave mentality, you want someone who respects you enough to defer to your judgement and hold you in esteem over her peers.
And, like all things based upon respect, you must be respectable enough to warrant that respect. A woman that refuses to respect you means you are not respectable, or she's got problems. It's easy to say she's got problems. But most people don't have significant problems that prevents them from respecting someone. Most of the time, we're the ones lying to ourselves.
max_peenor 5y ago
A woman with no boundaries will often act in way that is indistinguishable from Borderline Personality Disorder -- quoting myself.
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ebaymasochist 5y ago
70 pounds is not much weight at all.. A human adult should be able to carry a small child.. That's just one standard I have because I have a kid, and I don't want him to die because he was too heavy for some 85 pound girl with 3 inch nails to pick up and carry to safety.. Don't worry I see plenty of sexy women at the gym deadlifting 100 pounds for 10 reps and they are by no means female bodybuilders.
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ebaymasochist 5y ago
Post office employees are required to be able to handle 70 pounds.
The child shouldn't need to be lifted, but there are unfortunately situations where they could be unconscious or injured. I gave a young woman CPR once and brought her back from the dead, and it changed my life view on what it means to be a responsible person. It was just 2 weeks after my CPR class. The biggest adrenaline rush I've ever had
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Wait, which one of you is "super submissive", again? I kinda lost track there.
Super submissive women are super easy to get along with. You want something, you train them to do it. You don't like something, you train them to stop. You can't do that, it's not her fault your dominance game sucks.
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PM_ME_YOUR_SALSA 5y ago
My current girlfriend is very submissive. I have had problems with her in the past, mostly before discovering TRP.
One of the things I hated about her was that she was always trying to come off as really agreeable and nice to our friends. This quickly became a problem for two reasons: (1) many guys would actually see her niceness as a green light to flirting with her and because she was just not assertive enough to set boundaries, she often looked like she was ok with the flirting, and (2) she was just too nice to set boundaries against people that would disrespect her.
I know that from (1) she probably also liked the attention so her submissiveness wasn’t necessarily the culprit, but I would agree with OP here because I think excessive submissiveness may lead to having a girlfriend that challenges your frame often simply because she can’t tell a guy no (after all, if she is truly submissive then by definition she is not assertive, with you or anyone else). I expect every girl to challenge a man’s frame but a submissive one is perhaps the one that will cheat on you most often.
Another problem is that even now I literally just want to fuck her and leave right after. It’s not like I like masculine women but at the same time I really can’t respect her lack of character. It seems that submissiveness goes hand in hand with lack of ideals, and any clue about anything in life. This is currently a turn off for me but maybe I’m still blue pilled in that aspect.
I always read your posts and you often bring perspectives I miss so I’m interested to know what you think about this.
hopelessworthless 5y ago
I find that true too. That the submissive nature of my ex not only attracts many flies. But she was also incapable of saying no which leads her to cheat.
Submissive girls also tend to lack critical thinking skills. It just annoyed me so much. Like I don’t get it though. I thought it was a problem with intelligence.
Maybe it’s more of a submissiveness issue.
I still fall for the nice girls though.. the not nice ones even if it’s not to me. Are just such a turn off. Like one time I was hanging around someone and they started trash talking another guy in our class. I just left then. The guy was a nice guy his appearance didn’t deserve to be made fun of.
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ex_addict_bro 5y ago
Thought exactly this after reading this shitpost.
No ownership, victim thinking, "it's her fault" bullshit.
But... average people love victim thinking, just look at lyrics of any popular song... so no wonder this post has so many upvotes.
ebaymasochist 5y ago
Is some guy with very little real world experience going to know when a woman is being submissive, indecisive, or just plain weak with low self esteem? Is his dominance game going to be strong enough to overcome her habits formed over an entire lifetime?
ex_addict_bro 5y ago
Depends if such guy went to the gym a lot or focused on writing shitty posts instead
ebaymasochist 5y ago
The gym is full of guys who think their life will magically come together if they just add another 10 pounds to their deadlift. The gym will not teach you how to weed out crazy women from your life
chomponthebit 5y ago
Gym adds so many qualities that add women to one’s life. “Women” add experience that add the ability to weed out crazies from one’s life
uebermacht 5y ago
Uncle Whisper,
would you like to write a introduction about guiding submissive women?
Will be highly appreciated! :)
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
Uncle Vasya’s Guide to Submissive Women
-How to lead when she wants to follow.
ex_addict_bro 5y ago
It's just like giving orders to your 99 level Palladin in World of Warcraft, only to women and in real life.
uebermacht 5y ago
What if a high-level Orc is coming around the corner and raid your girlfriend?
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ex_addict_bro 5y ago
You get the camera and start filming.
red_philosopher 5y ago
This is so true.
If you are doing all of these things, guess who is the submissive one.
ebaymasochist 5y ago
Show me one man in all of history who was 100% dominant 100% of the time in a relationship
ex_addict_bro 5y ago
You need to try harder if you want me to send you my selfie.
Nootrophic 5y ago
Show me one man in all of history who was 80085% dominant 666% of the time in a relationship
trees_away 5y ago
Dude, I don’t let my bitch get away with shit. Not an inch. She is trained. She’ll test her limits on occasion just to see if I’m still holding the leash, but I seriously just have to ask “do I need to get the ladder?”^* And she’s whimpering like a puppy dog and apologizing for whatever dumb shit it was she just did. She needs me to be dominant 100% of the time. She needs to be put in her place some times and uses me to do so.
I intentionally go out of my way to not do shit for her much of the time, just to keep an imbalance- and never tolerate her not doing something I ask her to do. She pays for that in attention and affection until it became something that doesn’t cross her mind. It’s not that I don’t want to do shit for her, as I’m actually a pretty giving person. I just keep the frame I have in our relationship at the top of my mind pretty constantly because I see a relationship post-pill as a daily push-pull with her to keep her off balance and prevent her from ever getting comfortable.
All I’m saying is you’re fooling yourself if you don’t think it’s possible to be dominant 100% of the time in a relationship. When you start it out with the right frame, it is almost just about never letting it become anything but that. It’s possible to be affectionate, loving, gentle, and still dominant. If you have daughters, it’s exactly like that. You put on the sweet face as a mask much of the time, because that’s what little girls warm too. But when they need discipline, daddy voice comes out and backs straighten up real quick. I seriously manage my woman the same way, and it works perfectly.
^* One time she majorly shit tested me, ruining a rather delightful evening we were having with another woman by completely killing the vibe with her attitude and bitchiness. I came home after dropping the third off, woke up my girl and tied her ass up to a ladder. Though it is well outside of my norm, i tapped into my shadow and crossed well into the SM side of BDSM just to show her that I had teeth and disrespect wasn’t an option. She lapped that shit up. Took the beating like a good little sub. But it had the desired affect. She was back to her sweet, non-bitchy, do anything to please self the next day. I asked her why she did it, because at one point she was implying she was just seeing what she would have to say to get me to beat the shit out of her. She said she just want d to see what would happen. TRP in action my friends. She just wanted to see if her big teddy bear had claws because she had heard several stories from friends recently about what being on the wrong side of me feels like since I’m normally such a “nice” guy. She just wanted to know what I looked like when I was angry. I asked her if she was satisfied by what she saw? She said, “honestly, I was a little scared.” So many RP nuggets in that one exchange. I can’t even tell you how much more that woman bends over backwards for me now. Sends me a message a few days later telling me how safe she feels with me blah blah blah. All because she saw I was capable of being scary.
Atheist_Utopia 5y ago
Wait, you actually tied her up and she was completely fine with that?
trees_away 5y ago
Wait, you mean you don’t tie women up and they’re completely fine with that?
red_philosopher 5y ago
Don't need to. The point stands that one should never do what they are loathe to do.
ep1939 5y ago
I wanted to answer here, but the problem is that you talk about submissive women and then mix then with insecure women or passive women.
Those are 3 different often unrelated traits.
A women can be submissive and still have personality, decision making and still oppose you (in fact submission is a never ending game).
In fact if she opposes you (about anything) it's your duty and role to listen and change your mind if it makes sense.
There's nothing sexy nor manly about being thick headed. Thick heads lose the trust of their woman. A woman that doesn't trust your decisions, doesn't trust you and will be less submissive.
Unchallenging women are beyond boredom.
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max_peenor 5y ago
Wait, you found one that isn't?
isthatawaterbottle 5y ago
Some have harder shells but they all prolly crack
ebaymasochist 5y ago
That's kind of the point I was trying to make but missed the mark.. If a woman seems "submissive" but has these other things going on, you need to screen further. I don't see the topic in detail much beyond seeking out submissive women. Ten guys might have ten different ideas of what submissive means.
moontripper1246 5y ago
"Unchallenging women are beyond boredom". -Thus spoke ep1939
cat_magnet 5y ago
My LTR is submissive in the sense that she cooks and cleans and doesn't argue with me. But she is conservative with strong morals she won't break for anyone, me included. She is only submissive for me. Not saying she is a unicorn but I think there is a difference between being submissive to a man that is worthy of respect and just being weak and willing to follow anyone.
MilkroTik 5y ago
I think it is your interpretation that she is submissive.
In my perspective, cooking, cleaning, and not being bothered to argue with husband is a common sense.
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ebaymasochist 5y ago
Thank you that is a great example.
dontforgetthispw 5y ago
Agreed. OP's red flag of "She is not just submissive to you. She is constantly seeking outside council [sic] for her own life from friends, family, coworkers, television, etc.." is spot on.
I would rather prefer a woman who is submissive exclusively to me. I really don't want her to be submissive to other men etc. Outside counsel is dangerous because it will pretty much only just agree with her and validate and fuel her irrational fears and skepticism about anything and everything (including you), truth be damned.
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FractalNerve 5y ago
What's your cycle protocol like?
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chomponthebit 5y ago
Considered it, but don’t want my face to end up looking like saddle leather
LurchingDeath 5y ago
She sounds kinda like a religious nut. Also if she has morals she won't budge even for you she is NOT submissive and most certainly does not respect you as a man. Tbh this sounds like a case of you failing at red pill brother.
cat_magnet 5y ago
Lol ok. For the record she is not religious at all. Conservative doesn't necessarily mean religious. Im not on some quest to be "red pilled". I lift hard, I make money and generally enjoy my life. You should try that instead of trolling from your moms basement .
ebaymasochist 5y ago
Red pill is the new religion for some people here. Sad.
LurchingDeath 5y ago
???? okay beta settle down. We get it you're not suited to being a real man.
ebaymasochist 5y ago
What are you some kind of wannabe cult leader?
LurchingDeath 5y ago
No just an old school man. Can't claim your woman is submissive if the bitch won't do exactly what you say, when you say it, how you say it. Red pill has went from being an old school real men to being little more than pussies that have somehow still let women control their life while pretending that they're the ones in control.
ebaymasochist 5y ago
Well I'm trying to learn how to be an old school man, but every post I make asking the best way to beat a bitch without leaving bruises gets taken down.. So blame the mods for that
LurchingDeath 5y ago
???? very few as I call them old school types had to lay a finger on a woman. It's all personality, personality alone that is commanding and clear that it doesn't accept disobedience or any other bullshiet is all you need.
Nocryingok 5y ago
Another great post by ebaymasochist. Being a 100% feminine woman is as bad as it's being a 100% masculine man.
Poisonous/ugly things are usually "too much of just one element"
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Shaman6624 5y ago
Refreshing content, thanks for this.
DropDeadTyrant 5y ago
And also, how does that look on you? I used to imagine that in my bp fantasies. Having complete control over someone (don't call me psychotic). But, I remember watching this documentary one day about just this. Some serial killer preyed on this submissive girl, had her sign a slave contract. She forked over the right to any decision she could possibly make. They described their relationship and the guy controlled what she wore, ate, who she talked to, everything. He ended up killing her because he finally began gaining normalcy (working a job, less killing) but he had to control his own life and hers. Even for a serial killer, having complete access to someone's life, was too much for him. That made me stop thinking that way.
A_Group_of_Crows 5y ago
don't call me psychotic
You meant psychopathic. Psychotic means to lose touch with reality. A schizophrenic is psychotic. Ted Bundy was psychopathic.
ebaymasochist 5y ago
Oddly enough, You pretty much described 50 shades of grey without the murder.
GuruDev1000 5y ago
John Edward Robinson—insanely scary accounts about him on Wikipedia. Such inhumanity mixed with intelligence!
yvessixth 5y ago
"A fit, normal looking woman should be able to throw a 70 pound child over her shoulder and carry them up steps. If she is unable to do that, she does not work out and is unfit for the responsibilities of LIFE."
LMAO. Not if that's more than 1/2 her actual body weight at 54kgs, and in what situation would that be an important requirement? Women don't carry their muscle mass in their upper bodies. Everything else is agreeable.
ebaymasochist 5y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7OiA5pD7do
yvessixth 5y ago
You give me an outlier example of a competitive lifter struggling to pull 131kg above her knees to prove your point? Look. If that's your requirement I'm not trying to change your mind. I'm just saying it's not very realistic to expect a petite woman under 58kgs to lug over half her body weight over her shoulder just to prove some arbitrary standard of 'fitness' to you
rawrlolrofl 5y ago
i laughed at that harder than I needed to
ebaymasochist 5y ago
I just wanted you to see what it looks like.. She's only an outlier because women have gotten a free pass on being out of shape for the last 50 years.
Field_Of_View 5y ago
competitive lifters train every day and take PEDs. anyone who gets remotely close to any record is on PEDs, that's just common sense. normal women were never like this. you don't gain immense upper body strength from washing clothes and cutting up vegetables, especially if you're a woman.
ebaymasochist 5y ago
Normal women had millions of years of carrying shit around and walking long distances.. Blue pill that so many guys here still want to swallow: women have to be some huge masculine ogre to carry a case of beer into the house.. You are all getting played
ebaymasochist 5y ago
You need to get your woman into the gym to lift weights or the little bit of muscle mass she has will deteriorate and metabolism will plummet.. That's where fat gain comes from.. If it's a muscle, use it or lose it.. I don't care what the gender is
ImmunosuppressedTau 5y ago
Nice post! Like with all things a balance is needed
ainihon 5y ago
Can I fantasize about having a strong, capable of independence yet submissive to me kind of girl?
ebaymasochist 5y ago
Yes that sounds like a great, well rounded individual
DeontologicalSanders 5y ago
No matter her lifestyle, personality type, or physical makeup a woman is always a liability. Never an asset. They do not have to make a net positive contribution to a relationship, because they are artificially scarce. Women default to a minimum standard of behavior, because some guy will always be willing to put up with it. That is the market equilibrium in which they exist.
If you have one who's assertive/type A, be prepared to have your frame tested an obnoxious amount.
If you have one who's submissive/type B, be prepared to have to take care of things she could easily handle herself, but wants you to so she feels like you're constantly in charge.
At the end of the day, it's a question of whether her particular brand of pussy is worth the bullshit.
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ebaymasochist 5y ago
I made it to your front page? That's fucking awesome. thank you for letting me know. You made my day! XOXXOXXOO
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ebaymasochist 5y ago
Why did you edit your comment? I think you made yourself clear the first time without the emojis. Don't try so hard to be cool. No one gives a shit
ebaymasochist 5y ago
The subreddit exists to help those men break the cycle to live fulfilling lives, and others with more experience to reach their full potential. There can be a lot of emphasis on displaying dominance to attract women. No one decided that is attractive, it just is. But focusing on that one aspect of a relationship to an extreme can lead to other problems. That was part of the message of the post you commented on.. Balance