As a person born and raised in Poland, who also spent a lot of time in the neighboring countries:
They're a Tradcon paradise, which is similar in many ways, but not the same.
Why?
- First of all because of how prevalent is the idea of chivalry/manning-up, which is really male self-sacrifice without guaranteed reward. It's present both in the society (fuckton of white knights and what Rollo Tomassi would call "blue pill alphas") and in the law (e.g. labor law - men have to work longer before retirement despite the shorter average lifespan).
- The tradcon, family-first values are the huge focus of the current government in Poland - they're doing everything they can to convince you to get married young and slave away like a good little drone for the benefit of 1) society 2) your wife an kids. Maybe, just maybe, some of that produced wealth will trickle down to you, but it's by no means a priority.
- Due to the prevalent idea of altruistic male sacrifice, women are extremely entitled. They'll expect you to work your ass off and spend a big part of your income for their benefit. And the tradcon values DO NOT make them less promiscuous - they just get better at hiding their sluttiness, which often also means that they're conniving as fuck.
- All that is reinforced by the fact that the Church holds any government by the balls due to the fact how many voters they can sway. Only the most radical left is not pandering to the church and they suck for different reasons.
- Finally - you still can get divorce-raped. A bit less alimony-raped due to how ineffective is the system of forcing people to pay them, but betting everything on the incompetence of law enforcement is a dangerous game.
That's all. If you don't mind those things, then maybe it's a paradise. But not for me.
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Dr_skalmanski 5y ago
This was interesting. I am a swedish guy thinking about finding a loyal faithful Polish woman because ive heard so may good things about Polish women in Sweden. You post made me think twice.
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I'm from Romania and I totally agree with this one, though in the Eastern Capitals you'll still find that Western-minded girls because they have options here.
Qbi99 5y ago
If you want to find unicorn in Poland you have to search small villages on eastern border, due to the fact they are mentally still in 1900s. I was dating many women from different size towns/cities and to be honest, bigger the city is, women are more westernized and behaving exactly as western european/ american women. Nowadays I meet with HB7 from 100ppl village 30km to Polish-Ukrainian Border and omg that girl is so different from big city thots, she is cooking for me, cleaning my flat, always ready for fcking, overcaring, supportive and so on. Due to very hard social ostracism in rural areas women can't be thots bc they would be removed from social life. The only problem is cities influence which can make bitch even from most innocent and religious girls. I don't agree with OP statement that Labor Law is in favor of woman, truth is that EVERYONE has to work till serious illness or disability bc of small pensions (about 800zl which is enough only for bread and small payments). I also dont agree that government convinces to be slave for society, tbh everyone working is a some kind of slave, bc government takes away 40% of your income for taxes and if you're an entrepreneur then government can take up to 60% of your hard work. The easiest way to live in Poland is to be unemployed with 7 children and unemployed wife, then you'll get 3000zl just for children and many social benefits (like free eating, unemployment benefits/ doles etc). I dont agree that the Church reinforces tradcon values, nowadays you can see divorced ppl getting communion, bastard children getting official baptisms and even official church divorces which 30 years ago would be big scandals, but currently it is normal for both ppl and priests.
IMO it is very good option to live in Poland B especially if you have western european salary and want to find something close to unicorn.
HappinessIsYourDuty 5y ago
As a Polish guy I confirm.
The problem with most opinions from western guys is that with about 98% probability they'll meet only sluts that are attracted to the fact that you come from West (and thus have more money). So no surprise...
If you really want to find decent women - the chances are far greater in small villages and towns. And rarely foreigners ever are there... But the best women I've ever dated were sceptical regarding meeting a foreigner. They are traditional in this matter too - they prefer a Polish guy.
The bigger the city, the more (often) disappointing are women.
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AdrianWerner 5y ago
The threat of crap divorce is a lot smaller. Prenups can't be declared void and what's being split is only the wealth amassed during the marriage and even that has exception. For example, iheritance doesn't count into that wealth. Alimony is also rarely ordered and when it does it's short term.
Nowy, of course Poland is conservatives country. This means SJWs are weak here and feminism hasn't hortensja crazy, but it is conservatives country still, not a redpilled one
quazimodo_007 5y ago
Why did anybody even think eastern europe would be a red pill paradise?
st-johnson 5y ago
Had a Polish gf once and to begin with I thought she would be a perfect wife , ( traditional family values, cooking , cleaning , loving mother etc)She was fit as fuck but turns out she was a massive psycho manipulating bitch AWALT
uebermacht 5y ago
Appreciate the report man!
Majority of TRP readers are from US. They know shit about Europe.
Been often in Poland to buy food and stuff on weekly basis because it's so unbelievably cheap compared to Germany.
Also did holidays too in Poznan, Zielona Gora and some other cities on regular basis.
The visual quality of bitches is astonishing. Simply beautiful women and also easy to lay if they hear „whaaaat youre from Germany“. It's Social Proof in a weird way and feels awkward however.
You can party a whole week in Poland for the same amount of cash you party a weekend in Berlin.
zcdyfjtun6 5y ago
Then you should try Ukraine, you can party there whole week for cash you party a weekend in Poland. I'm from Lithuania and prices are almost as same as in Poland.
chances_are_ur_a_fag 5y ago
ok, polish women were always very whorish. much more so than ukes and russians. i'm from western ukraine so lots of interaction with the poles and i've been to poland plenty. but to the point, polish girls were always the primadonnas of the eastern europe as far as i know. so the entitlement combined with their amazing whoreness leads to bad business. also, right now in poland the feminist garbage has been making its way into the populace and into some parts of the govt so i'm not surprised by your story.
destraht 5y ago
They are connected to the Western university scheme so they will have that influence. I'm in Colombia now and I see it here as well. Its all about how close to universities you are and for how long they have been operating. Poland is in the EU and so get Erasmus type shit going on whereas Ukraine and East are out of that influence and draw from another legacy. Back over here in Colombia they don't really have a legacy worth mentioning so they just get the default US crap brought down on them. Tick, tick, tick.
chances_are_ur_a_fag 5y ago
but damn your women are fucking fine
destraht 5y ago
I'm California, but the world seems to think so ever since the Beach Boys, but I'm over it.
chances_are_ur_a_fag 5y ago
well enjoy colombia brotha
ich_bin_doch_geil 5y ago
Poland is just a poorer version of the West with an unnecessarily complicated language. Polish women are influenced by our media, music, TV, values, culture etc. They will turn 100% Western sloot once you get them alone and tell them where you are from.
But even if it was some TradCon paradise, how is that better? We have it great in the West. We get as many sloots as we want, and as long as we are careful about the legalities, we can pump and dump without consequence.
Plus, the rules to getting laid made as simple as possible due to the normalization of the female sexual strategy. Its all laid out. Just read the damn blueprints.
Whats not to love? Weve got it made boys.
Zefirez 5y ago
I'm polish too and i concur (least about polish women). They are often very business (money) minded when it comes to male selection. I had one relatively hot chick work for my grandma as physiotherpeutist with me helping the process.
The moment she heard there was some good looking but older (42yo woman) interested in me but currently she was busy paining her house she suggested i should go there and help.
Like WTF? Why should I go and bust my ass for free for a woman that i barely know, even if she has bit of hots for me. Not to mention my own life and it's responsabilities. It's like she had religious dogma that as a man it's my job to cater to women, regardless of my own situation and that woman's standing with me, lol.
Also Alpha fux is very real here. Woman talk tons of crap but when you see who gets bedded, hello Chad! No amount of excuses works vs pure facts.
So the women are entitled, and think they deserve more then what they're really worth. Cock Carousel riders also present. If you want good God-fearing woman that maybe had one of two boyfriends - Poland is not for you. A few (and probably uggos, surprise, surprise) may crop up, but it's not mainstream nor a trend.
The two advantages you do get compared to USA is definitely better looks (landwhale is not a norm here), and much less crazy feminist talk.
I guess this is the most important point here:
Traditional women are entitled and money/status oriented. Not being a crazy feminist does not mean a beautiful girl that will love you for your soul and have no issues with you being poor, yet honest and devoted partner.
Sure there are some like that, but I can say easily, that certainly there's a lot more of gold diggers and a fair amount of cock carousel riders around.
JohnBravo9990 5y ago
It's 1000 times better than America.
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Well, but in EE u have more RP guys, so competition is way harder than in us.
JcHgvr 5y ago
Poland is hardly a good example of the east, especially when using woman from bigger cities as your sample. While it was on the eastern side of the berlin wall and by all means is not as corrupt as the west, Poland has been under influence of the west for some time now and more so than other states under former soviet influence. Simply put, Poland is getting westernized and the result of it is the change in how woman act, slowly but surely they start to see the traditional female role as oppression and feminism as freedom they very much deserve.
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no shit sherlock! women are the same everywhere
Luckyluke23 5y ago
you make a good point man, but i think people say " Europe is better than the west" because of HOW BIG the gap is between them.
i mean sure you get all of those things, but your women are blue-haired tattoo land wales.. at least you could get a semi-chub for them.
planet_caravan 5y ago
This is the biggest thing that tradcon redpillers forget about, as they froth at the mouth about how tradcon values are needed to keep women from being sluts. At the end of the day, you can't change human nature. The only thing that changes is how publicly sluts can flaunt their behavior - not the behavior itself.
iLLprincipLeS 5y ago
Tradcuck values maybe where you pray to God to forgive your cheating wife. Real tradcon values today that would be effective are more like something in the line of Sharia Law.
JamesSkepp 5y ago
The bright side is: you know who to avoid, both on personal level and as trend or stereotype.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Dude, it's crazy. last weekend, just walking around town, was 3 chicks wearing tit stickers and body paint shorts. no parade, just a friday.
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Does this include Greece Ukraine and turkey / Armenia ?
AnjaJutta 5y ago
Greece was never part of the Eastern bloc and even though they are geographically part of Eastern Europe they have been thoroughly saturated with British-American culture. Having said that, they are still Eastern Orthodox in religion.
twdziki 5y ago
Ukraine yes, but Greece and Turkey are not really considered Eastern Europe. They're pretty different culture-wise. Armenia maybe, but it's a bit of a stretch.
destraht 5y ago
I find Ukrainian women to be a lot different than Polish. L'viv women are trying to be Poles but other than that just huge.
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You got any experience with those women? I hear Ottoman Empire once conquered Eastern Europe so maybe they counted
twdziki 5y ago
I've had mostly positive experiences with both Turkish and Greek women, but not enough to have an educated opinion on them.
Even at the top of their power they never got North of Vienna, so there was still a lot of Eastern Europe left.
OPTIMUSL1ME 5y ago
Is there anywhere left on Earth where the women aren't massive sluts?
EDIT: What the fuck is with the replies, I know they're there
uebermacht 5y ago
You are not fully unplugged if you devide women into slut and no-sluts.
Every woman on planet earth is a slut due to their hypergamous nature, which is natural and normal.
The only difference between each woman is, to which degree each woman is live up to that potential being a slut.
reddick1 5y ago
This is what trp is trying to teach you my man. The answer is no, women act more or less the same worldwide, minus some cultural quirks and other guises. I am not saying all women are sluts, but all do have the same basic instincts and will never be 100% loyal to you unconditionally.
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CasaDeFranco 5y ago
There are no nations without sluts, but there are communities within nations which are.
Most are exclusive within a race, network and faith, say for example Opus Dei, Ultra-Orthodox Jewish faith etc. In my home city, Opus Dei typically is the wealthy enclave of Catholics; they only marry one another and typically it's a marriage between families. The women there are slightly autistic, very religious, some plain, some beautiful without knowing it. They all come with strings attached, however.
If you're looking for a nation-state with such a culture, you will not find it so. It's best to find a community in your country with this culture, than import women from a less slutty culture to the West. Eastern women take time to understand, I wouldn't suggest it as their women can be more cunning than Anglosphere women.
KeffirLime 5y ago
This, any big city will be influenced by modern culture.
Not for me, but, If you want the traditional "fantasy" head out to the country side/villages. Far less influenced.
Although nowadays with TV's, Internet, even the youngsters in the villages want to head to the cities to live the supposed "good life"
OPTIMUSL1ME 5y ago
lmao why would ever poison a trad girl with the culture of the weimar whore by importing them
seiretnemeS 5y ago
Don't forget who created the Weimar and now push the same degeneracy.
CasaDeFranco 5y ago
Read my comment, I actually stated not to do this. Secondly, if you have a career as an executive; like many here do. Eastern Europe is a pit for one's career.
klk8251 5y ago
FYI: You typed "then" instead of "than". That is why people think you are advocating importing the women (because technically, you did advocate it).
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tolstushki701 5y ago
I’ve worked with many immigrants from Poland and Russia. The couple I knew were married back in their country and were unconditionally in love. Long story short, yes the women were hot and they all ended up cheating on their nice husbands. The guys they cheated with worked in the kitchen and were illegal immigrants. Low SMV but they were good with compliments and being rude to them like holding off their orders. This really hot Polish girl cheated with a line cook and recorded the action, the husband found out and forgave her because he loved her and the fact that they had a baby together he said he couldn’t just divorce her. Well, as time went by we all found out and he was ashamed and the family moved back to Poland. We couldn’t believe that a really hot girl like her would cheat with a guy who doesn’t even have a car...A friend of mine told me right before they left he banged her and showed me photos. Back then I couldn’t believe it because I thought oh well she probably learned her lesson with the first guy she cheated with but apparently she didn’t. He ended up divorcing her after they moved back. This is just one story, I can tell more but I feel like you guys get the idea, AWALT! Women are women, once they move to the states they can change and they do change.
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StillHigh09 5y ago
Polish women are same entitled snowflakes as in the west. Less false rape accusations and feminazis,but rest is the same as everywhere on the west. Going further east,yes women are feminine and less entitled. But its all illusion,they want your wallet. When they get commitment from a rich man,they show their real face.
Hyper_Sonik 5y ago
Globalization of hypergamy is happening before our very eyes. The big question is, what happens from here? Will hypergamy run itself off a cliff or will there be a "reformation" of women?
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Haha thanks I’m gonna keep that in mind.
redhawkes 2 5y ago
True.
All the things you mentioned are the result of the socialistic programming that is still prevalent in the older generations and they are spewing it around.
The classic 'family first' values are nothing more than a slave mentality. Men are treated as a plowing horse, and the whole benefit goes to the government via taxes.
The old white knights are the worst. They still think that will get them pussy if they put a bitch in front of them in the line with the 'ladies first' bullshit.
Where I live, the government was thinking about implementing 'bachelor taxes' for men over 35, and women over 30.
The younger generations are westernized at young age from Hollywood, Pop and all mainstream shit.
As usual, TRP works as a charm.
I_BET_UR_MAD 5y ago
"Socialistic"
90% of the hoe shit that goes on is the direct result of ultra consumerism and the commodification of social values
ebaymasochist 5y ago
finally someone sees the truth.
pigeon_exe 5y ago
Ensuring the splitting of assets and payment for doing nothing sure sounds socialistic to me.
iLLprincipLeS 5y ago
He mentioned that: "The younger generations are westernized at young age from Hollywood, Pop and all mainstream shit."
That aspect indoctrinates females to live in their youth the lifestyle sold by the pop propaganda. But once they reach the wall, that's when the female-centrism of socialism kicks in: females will be offered all kind of benefits through socdem programs instead of letting nature take it's course and punish the females that were dumb enough to live the lifestyle of the slave consumer. Through socialism although a male would make the right choices in his youth he would be punished for it through taxing that would be converted to benefits for worthless females.
I_BET_UR_MAD 5y ago
But again this "socialization" isn't the root cause of the issue. The root cause is the hoeing.
No woman who hoes to her 30s does so expecting to divorce her future husband for a ton of money. They aren't thinking about the wall in the first place.
Thus, although changing the divorce and alimony systems may be morally just, it will not solve these problems. Women will still hoe on unawares - they'll just end up lonely and destitute after they hit the wall. And while that might seem like good retribution individualistically it's pretty shitty from a societal standpoint. The woman still hoes and her children are still raised by a single mother.
If the consumerist "slave mentality" as you put it is stopped early on, then the problems with divorce basically solve themselves. Stable long term relationships and social responsibility would make it a rarity. Thus the priority should be the hoeing, not the divorce rules, imo.
Thistookmedays 5y ago
Anybody from The Netherlands and (a little less) Germany, perhaps Scandinavia? I'd hardly consider our women snowflake princesses with an entitlement attitude. Being self sufficient is a higher value.
As far as I know the general opinion is women should work. Especially in the younger generations. Actually if you look at the numbers in the millenial generation, women are educated better and make more money than their male counterparts.
You will still get divorce raped and people screw around.. but I don't recognise the princess part.
Chitlinsandgravy 5y ago
Plus side, you could clean up over there with a proper, genuine, no fucks attitude.
Just reading that made me dry up like the Sahara.
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DayGameChirality 5y ago
What is red pill about being a tradcon
CaptDeadlift 5y ago
I wouldn't classify Poland as a true eastern european country in the red pill sense.
Countries that are include Hungary, Romania , Serbia in my opinion.
I come from Romania and I've visited these countries frequently due to friends and relatives and I can assure you that women are more classy in the more conservative cities but once you get to a city such as Cluj-Napoca ( romania ) or Debrecen(hungary) which are more liberal cities you will see the amount of sluts in these cities.
Picking up sloots on tinder when in these specific cities is a childs play but once you are in a more conservative city you will be hit by women expecting to date a little before giving you the cherry.
Poland being surrounded by western countries basically means that bitches will have really high expectations , while they do have in the countries I listed as well but not as high.
Women are less DTF from the first moment and require some work and that might be the downside but women are still shamed for their promiscuity in some parts of the country and that is a good thing to keep them somewhat under control.
If you ever visit Romania or Hungary then I highly suggest visiting these 2 cities because getting lays is ez there. ( mostly because their universitary cities)
Just my 2 cents.
Dark_Lord_A 5y ago
Almost sounds like a fantasy.
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Thotwrecker 5y ago
This is very true - go to places like ljubljana in Slovenia, it's a beautiful uni town with water that grows 9s. Bratislava is a little touristy but good too - many of the bitches there you just bite the bullet, pay for a cheap dinner and drinks with them that will legit be great booze / food, then fuck them. Many girls there just need to hamster they've been taken out before the fuck.
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Yeah, but they aren't easy at least for us locals.
destraht 5y ago
I've tried to get into Bucharest twice but I ended up leaving very quickly both times because of scabby gypsy legs in the street, the taxi driver outright fucking me out of large change to the point that it was to punch or not to punch, etc. Just scammy and sleazy as fuck but the chicks there seemed super hungry for cock. I quickly realized that I'd be fucking non-stop in
RomaniaBucharest but I don't trust them for a damn, perhaps even less than Latin Americans and that is saying a lot. My last time I just got an erotic massage with a girl and I can say that was quite nice, nice girl. Then I got the fuck out of there. I trust Ukrainians a hell of a lot fucking more about the scams and opportunistic thieving along with blatant robbery than I doRomaniansBucharestians.Thotwrecker 5y ago
Standard operating procedure as a tourist is never leave her alone with your valuables, watch her leave then piss :) Everywhere there's broke bitches, they are going to be trying some kind of finesse
CaptDeadlift 5y ago
I would personally call Bucharest a shit hole city even though its our capital.
The better cities are generally in Transilvania and next to the sea.
I was a couple of times around Bucharest and let me tell you I hated every minute over there just because of the ugly sight.
Next time you pay a vist do it in a mountain resort ( Sovata is a great place imo , idk about lays there) or a bigger Transilvanian city.
Ignore the gypsies , I always pass by some when going to the gym and tell them to get a fucking job instead of begging like the dogs they are.
Taxi fare is also quite high in larger cities and I would recommend borrowing a bike you can ride for the day since it's healthier and much faster during rush hours.
getbangedchatshit 5y ago
What about Iasi? Worth a visit?
destraht 5y ago
Yeah I'm not writing off all of Romania but I will not attempt to explore Bucharest again. It should be discounted 40% for being so shitty. I could enjoy a discounted shit hole like that.
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CaptDeadlift 5y ago
Well that is more possible in the cities such as Cluj , Alba Iulia , Bucharest , Timisoara , Costinesti since they are more liberal and as I previously said a lot of university students.
Dating isn't really worth it in these cities , especially as a high SMV male.
twdziki 5y ago
It's pretty Westernized compared to the countries you've mentioned, but this rant is a direct response to so many American RP guys talking about "Eastern European countries like Poland".
That's the issue with categorizing "Eastern Europe" - because I'd say for example that Serbia despite being predominantly Slavic is more Balkan in culture than classically Eastern European.
Anyway, thank you for the input - much appreciated.
juju515 5y ago
Balkan countries were never Eastern Europe...
Eastern Block/Europe was the territory "liberated" by the USSR after WW2...
Jugoslavia/Balkans liberated itself and were never under USSR influence... (Tito told Stalin to fuck off)
Balkan countries are Slavic and because of that people on the west put us all in the same basket... but historically, geographically and culturologically we are not Eastern Europe...
Edit: Hungry and Romania are Eastern Europe even tho they aren't Slavs... but they were under USSR... hence they are Eastern Europe...
Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro,... aren't even tho they are Slaves...
Toussant 5y ago
What are some differences between Balkan and EE?
twdziki 5y ago
People are more laid back, but also more feisty when they get agitated. Warmer weather. Spicier food.
Basically like France vs. Spain.
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zerosapte 5y ago
I live in Romania, which is even more Eastern than Poland is. By an order of magnitude, I dare say, and I can attest OP is speaking the truth.
We are all fucked! As a species.
badgerninjacow 5y ago
The chicks are very hot on average though
Freenorthman 5y ago
Most of them also fuck rich old guys for pocket money
bac10us 5y ago
I live with an Eastern European, I don’t do shit around the house , I do whatever I want, whenever I want, she doesn’t ask for shit, doesn’t complain about shit. red pill is anti-relationship but the purpose of women is to serve men and when you find a rare one who takes great pride in serving, your plates lose their appeal.
FullOfShiznit 5y ago
Yeah but crazy they are too, bat shit crazy at least in the south poland. The long marriage is not as potent upon polish values as it was 30 years ago. Most polish bitches are a lot closer to AWALT nowadays but as the OP said the strong family values are still dominant in the society.
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
Having a foot in both the West and the East, I can say that it's just a different set of problems. On the whole, I'd rather have a girl from E.Eur who I can train up the way I want, but like I say, both places have their pluses and minuses.
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Ditto . There are complete cultural differences between the two groups. The concept of "face" is a good example. The father one is from Asia proper, the concept of face plays less into decision-making.
BigMawsmidget 5y ago
Maybe so, but AWALT regardless, and I take this post as more of a warning for guys like me thinking of leaving America to find a woman.
TrenGod37 5y ago
I mean that is a stupid to move to find a chick. but if you find a girl who is Polish she’s usually better LTR material than almost all American women
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KeffirLime 5y ago
The world is such a global village nowadays that no culture is really secluded. With the internet, flight,cellphones we're so interconnected. Cultures are diluting and cross pollinate all the time. Ideas spread quickly. We're heading towards more of a global culture than pods of different ones.
Ultimately you'll get some of the same shit wherever you go, it's just at different levels of the process. If you really want traditional go to villages, away from cities.
destraht 5y ago
In Ukraine I saw a few sweet village girls get burnt out and charmless after two months of working in a club. Cities are places where people go to die out over many generations.
ex_addict_bro 5y ago
Leave your country to get a better spouse. 18 upvotes.
Am I in RPW yet?
BigMawsmidget 5y ago
I've thought about it, but only because I've hate what America is more than anything, but I realize it's a fools errand to do such a thing. I might succeed, or I could ultimately fail, and still be a fool. That's why I said it's more of warning to guys like me thinking you can bypass the game so to speak.
TrenGod37 5y ago
I’ve dated a lot of chicks too and the women I dated straight from Poland (including the one now). Raised by a good polish family are not only amazing partners but extremely loyal compared to women from the US
JohnBravo9990 5y ago
Loyal but insane. Better than American girls, disloyal and insane.
twdziki 5y ago
It's easy to be an amazing, loyal partner in the honeymoon phase of the relationship. How long did you date them?
TrenGod37 5y ago
5 years and counting. She’s loyal. I’m not saying NAWALT bc I know she’s capable of anything but given the many women I’ve been with she take the relationship very seriously, I will say that
red_matrix 5y ago
Date a Polish girl for a while and tell me the amount of crazy that comes with it is worth it. Eastern European chicks border on psychopathy. There's no free lunch boys - the hot crazy scale exists for a reason.
montana12345 5y ago
Dude polish girls are the worst. I got out a 3 year ltr trust me I know what I talk about
characterulio 5y ago
This is so true. Especially the super hot ones are psychotically high maintenence. I know because a lot of men in my family married/dated eastern europeams and it never ends well.
The ukrainian and russian are the most dangerous because they are so prideful they wont change anything for you but make you change everything for them. Also if you piss them off they can be evil bitches you would only think exist in disney movies.
Indubitably_Confused 5y ago
Def not worth it. Fucked with a Polish chick myself for a few years. She told me so many red flags about her fam that I completely disregarded. Of course this was way back when I was still plugged. Crazy sex was great while it lasted, just not enough to justify all the bullshit.
DoomzDayTurkey 5y ago
can you explain the red flags. Cheers
Indubitably_Confused 5y ago
A bit late, but better late than never. Some of the red flags I remember were:
* The dad was working two jobs, but the mom wasn't satisfied with it/him. Always talking shit about him with the kids, sincere disrespect going down. Said she hated her mom for it, but she ended up doing the exact same type of shit to dudes, yours truly included.
* Her cousins were fucking thots, and really disgusting ones at that too, but hey, betas gotta eat something. She thought it was a "normal" everybody's doing it type of shit. The thots, including her own mom and sister, tried to convert her early on to the CC, which eventually happened, but hindsight is 20/20 she was destined for it really.
* She was always insecure, but it really kicked up when I negged her naturally apparently. Especially when I went to a different college with noticeably bigger pool of chicks, and higher quality at that, than the one she went to. Constantly trying to show up, any and all events, getting up in my social feeds, the usual plate behaviors.
* Had a friend that actively engaged in 3-somes and shit, acting all innocent and crap, but deep down the ex was straight up fiending it. Always ASD and LMR right before I got shit set up, and then trying to reverse it on me.
* Always talking about grass being greener on the other side type of shit, and usually about traveling and wanting to get her bucket list down. CC really.
* Self harm, but mostly Munchausen shit, always extracting my attention as much as possible while I was dealing with depression and shit parent decisions that fucked finances when the housing market blew up.
There's so much more, but the those are the ones I remember the most that clicked the hardest after reading the sidebar two times ish.
[deleted] 5y ago
Agreed.
EE chicks are a mix of psycho bitches with a princess syndrom. And this is fault of our white knight grandparents.
[deleted] 5y ago
I need to add something.
Because of that we (Poles) were always struggling with our neighbours from every side of country we had also protect our ladies from the threat but back then chicks knew that we do it for them so they behave as a lady should have to - they were support to men. But now, when we have stable ground and open borders they can jump into foreign dick without shame.
Thankfully, my SMV at this point of my life is so high that I don't have to be worried about familliar chicks.
[deleted] 5y ago
Latin American chicks are comparable. Soldering iron hot. Rabid as a fruit bat in the summertime.
[deleted] 5y ago
So true. I’m a sucker for latinas. “Ayyy papi” ????????
NikolaGeorgiev 5y ago
But if you have money, no problem. :)
[deleted] 5y ago
It depends what is Your reference point.
In Poland there is a really small difference in salaries between males and females, especially in capital city.
JohnBravo9990 5y ago
lol. They won't know until they experience it. I know firsthand...
characterulio 5y ago
Its because eastern european have really good genes and the women love beauty. So i can understand falling for the honey trap.
JohnBravo9990 5y ago
I met a French guy in Warsaw...Said he moved there for his girlfriend. He looked tired for a second and said somberly “Polish girls love to argue”. A moment of silence ensued..I knew exactly what he meant.
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zyqkvx 5y ago
Look at the hot-crazy scale long enough and you realize the only good strategy is to be a chad.
red_matrix 5y ago
Or you know, have a brain and don't stick your dick in crazy!
zyqkvx 5y ago
Funny thing about that chart is on the bottom half of the line (acceptable) there are points like 9.9 / 10, meaning 9.9 crazy is ok if she is truly a 10. Just carve some of that off, and mow on what's left.
Ayoung4u 5y ago
Relevant> https://youtu.be/XuI6GTY9eVc
twdziki 5y ago
Yup, especially the Russian and Ukrainian chicks with just the slight addition of Asian blood really get me going.
Which is why I'm not going to discourage you from running your game there.
I'm just discouraging you from moving there in hope of living in less gynocentric society. It's still very gynocentric - just not in the flashy, Western way.
dickens910 5y ago
I've never met women who are more. materialistic. Its not uncommon for them to ask what kind of car you drive back in the states, and they dont ask because they are car enthusiasts.
menial_optimist 5y ago
Ya dude, eastern russian chicks (the ones who are mixed asian/mongolian/steppe) are fucking BEAUTIFUL.
Andgelyo 5y ago
TIL Eastern European chicks are part asian, nice history lesson
party_dragon 5y ago
“Eastern Russian” isn’t “Eastern European”, Russia extends all the way to the edge of Asia (it “borders” Alaska).
deville05 5y ago
Genghis khan man, Genghis khan
Adach 5y ago
I'm 100% polish but i've been told I look asian...
Pete_The_Pilot 5y ago
The hardest, most red-pilled motherfucker to ever live.
twdziki 5y ago
I highly recommend reading his biography (or on the history of Mongol empire in general) if you didn't. Not only Mongol leaders were alpha as fuck, but also extremely shrewd as politicians and strategists. Always learning and improving. Even willing to learn from their enemies. A thing that very few people are willing to do nowadays, even here, on TRP.
DeontologicalSanders 5y ago
Granted, it's pretty easy to reflect back and learn from your enemies while drinking wine out of their skulls.
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I fully agree. Ghengis khan,aka temujin is one bad dude. He basically had an extremely damaged childhood,which probably turned him into a sociopath, and then he grew up and got revenge on the tribes that murdered his whole village and family when he was a boy, btw he was really tight with his brother this whole time. Like unbelievably tight. Then he killed his brother because his brother got greedy and ate the only marmot ghengis killed while they were out hunting for their starving family one day. And.some other reasons i think. Then his family outcasted him.
Basically, through an insane amount of grief and trauma and insane amounts of violence, he stopped giving a fuck and let his dark side loose. Sort of like hitler. Killing whoever fucked with him, killing his enemies ruthlessly, raping hundreds and hundreds of women, just no fucks given. Total satanist mentality. But yeah thats how he ran shit.
twdziki 5y ago
The thing is that he wasn't just a ruthless warrior. He knew how to forge important alliances (and when to break them), he wasn't obsessed with doing things the old way (basically reinvented many aspects of the steppe society) and listened to his advisors when they knew more on a topic than him (especially the Chinese dude - don't remember his name now).
All that on top being a bad dude was what separated him from other warlords. The steppe was ruthless - I'm sure there were heaps of "just" bad dudes among the nomads.
ThatEastAfricanguy 5y ago
You don't build an empire by kissing ass
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Mr2W 5y ago
Ooh-ah, Gen Gen Genghis Khan
MarquisDePaid 5y ago
It's a common misconception that historic conquest (and the assumed rape) will reflect in demographic changes
Does this leave the population changed? Not necessarily for a few reasons
1- birth control and infanticide. On the chance that a raped woman got pregnant it is historically very common for that woman to find some form of birth control, abortion, or even infanticide
2- in wartime many victims of rape end up dead later
3- conquests and "prizes" are often taken back to the main country. This is self explanatory. There is Armenian admixture into the Turkish population, not Turkish admixture into the Armenian population
4- assuming rapes/enslavements result in a new local lineage, that lineage is generally expelled when the nation achieves self-determination and independence. This is what happened in the Balkan wars when the European states won their freedom and expelled the colonizers
What little Mongol admix happened in the European territories was usually that by royal marriages/alliances
I often see this retarded idea that there is a race "spectrum" in East Europe: There isn't. There are European ethnicities, there are Asian ethnicities, and then there are some mixed groups (Anatolian Turks, Tartars) which as of yet have not yet formed a distinct ethnic identity
[deleted] 5y ago
Both Turks and Tartars consider themselves as Asian. "not Turkish admixture into the Armenian population" and this is just plain funny.
menial_optimist 5y ago
What is your argument, that some sort of racial purity exists? It doesn't. Go far enough back and you'll see tribal and ethnic mixing across vast landmasses.
MarquisDePaid 5y ago
Who said anything about "Racial purity"?
My comment was about detectable ethno-genisis to the point of a homogenous population with unique identifiable features
I'm quite aware all of us humans are related, we are HUMANS after all
But in the same train of thought, I am more related to my nuclear family than I am to a stranger, and I am more related to my ethnic kin than someone of another race
As one example let me demonstrate this in East Asian populations, Sinodonts and Sundadonts
By analyzing a skeleton you can tell which ethnic group the person belonged to, Sinodont or Sundadont
Do these Sinodonts or Sundadonts have to be "pure"? No, and OBVIOUSLY there are exceptions to every rule (you absolute moron), but there is enough "purity" to create labels such as Sinodont and Sundadont
And keep in mind this isn't an easier to see European-vs-Asian ethnic difference, this is a smaller Asian-vs-Asian ethnic difference
twdziki 5y ago
What you're saying is basically Russian and Ukrainian nationalist propaganda which has been gradually disproved since the early 00s.
According to the current research Slavs are much more genetically diverse than they like to claim (especially Eastern Slavs seem to really care for some reason), with Baltic, Finno-Ugric, Germanic, Turkic, etc. influences.
No amount of mental gymnastics in saying that "Kievian Rus was subjugated, not conquered" will change the outcome of DNA testing.
MarquisDePaid 5y ago
This is not true....
The two main divisions of Slavs (Russians) are north and south
North are closer related to Finnish people (themselves a genetic outlier compared to others) as well as other Nordic, while South have a lot of admixture from germanic people, probably from Volga Germans
Going back further than that, European ethnicities indeed have some common ancestry with orientals, especially so with north eurasians
You and your antifa "anti nationalist" talking points can't bullshit your way through actual facts
twdziki 5y ago
When I was talking about "Eastern Slavs", I meant the cultural differences. Czechs or Poles don't feel the need to desperately convince everyone that they never mixed their blood with people with whom they interacted a lot throughout history.
You're aware that Norse people are Germanic too, right?
But anyway - the split between North and South Slavs is cultural and linguistic, not genetic. The idea that what differentiates Southern Slavs is being related to Volga Germans is laughable. Unless you've got some sources on that?
Lol @ me being "antifa" just because I'm not losing sleep over genetic "purity" of my people.
EDIT: Actually, nvm. You can respond if you want, but I'm not here to discuss ethnicity and genetics, so believe whatever you want.
MarquisDePaid 5y ago
It's disturbing to me how seriously people are taking you, because I swear to god like everything you say in this thread is wrong
Well there's the wiki, and while wikipedia is full of libshit bias and edits, it provides decent analysis on this issue
Second of all, nobody is "losing sleep" over genetic purity
I don't regard foreign ethnicities as "subhumans tainting muh pure lineage" or anything, I do however value actual discussion (rather than stupid deconstruction)
In the interest of honesty, I do in fact think ethnic identity and national identity are valid things for people to value. Such values need to be balanced with reality of course and open to new ideas... but your lazy whining deconstruction trash isn't "reality", it's you being an annoying shill piece of trash for your own hateful agenda
Why are you people so hateful?
The "globalist" promoted/chosen "miss Japan" 2015 was a half african woman, who stated; src
These "AntiNazi" shills, your fellow tribesmen, went on a rant here on how ethnic Japanense are "illegitimate" despite my protests;
suxxos 5y ago
I know both Poland and US and I think you just don't have a good perspective. A good majority of Polish women have a full-time job, even if they raise kids and take care of the household. Even if they don't make as much money as their husbands, they definitely work hard for their (and their kids') living. In big cities, especially, it's just not an option for a woman to give up a job after she gets married, Poland is just too poor for that. I think that if you start a family, it's fair for both wife and husband to share the costs, no? It's obvious you won't be able to spend all your money on your own hobby once you get married. Lots of guys in Poland just don't get it. Polish women definitely won't expect you to buy them brand clothes or items, just look around the cities, even Warsaw - noone is wearing Prada or Chanel any of that. As far as my friends go, guys don't just buy random presents for their girlfriends (except for Christmas, birthday and so on - but that's when you exchange gifts, not just give them). Not to mention, girls usually pay their own check when you go on a date.
And as for divorce, alimony doesn't exist here. You have to pay child support in certain cases (but as you rightly said, most guys just don't pay it, they don't care, and there is no way to force them to).
royer44 5y ago
As a guy who flew away from Turkey to Poland 2.5 years ago, I can totally agree with the most part. I've been dating a Polish/Japanese girl for 2 years and the crazy I came across and the racism from her family absolutely made me question my decisions.
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Japanese might be the most racist people on the face of the Earth. They were never really broken of their WW2 belief that they are a master race like the Germans were. There are like 3rd and 4th generation Koreans living in Japan today that can never become part of Japanese society and are treated like outsiders.
It’s incredible how the rest of the world gets away with this stuff and the West is demonized. They couldn’t beat us in battle, so they cleverly found a way to inject an ideology that makes us self destruct.
firelitother 5y ago
Strange. One would think that a mixed-race family would be more open to other races.
lookingforshantaram 5y ago
I was born in eastern europe and OP is spitting the truth. But if you are from the west and somewhat decent in the SMV department in your country, oh boy, you gonna get laid so hard, that your cock will fall off. Also, you can be the ugliest person in the world, just be rich and you are ready to go there.
Still, I prefer western women.
courtesy_flush_plz 5y ago
Fuck yeah I been wondering about checking out Russia before shit gets too weird. I'm getting my passport baby
Spets87 5y ago
Visited Odessa in Ukraine, my god, it's like shooting fish in a barrel. HB8+ fish at that.
lookingforshantaram 5y ago
Can't deny that, I swear they have the highest hot babes per capita ratio in the world. When I was visiting Kiev a few years ago I almost broke my neck there were so many beautiful girls. Also, unlike central europe, in the "true east" sex seems to be really casual. I never asked why, but I guess it's because Russia lost so many men during WW2. But these are just my assumptions.
Alleycat0 5y ago
'Russia lost so many men during WW2'
Its true.
[deleted] 5y ago
It’s been shown that populations can demographically normalize themselves quite rapidly after major demographic altering events like ww2. Doubt that it’s the reason. China on the other hand has a big problem. Decades of the one child policy leading to gender imbalance is not easy to fix. Also an excess of females is no big deal, but an excess of males is hugely problematic.
destraht 5y ago
If you want a prudish part then try L'viv. Prudes still fuck but they do it prudishly.
SmamelessMe 5y ago
Nice post. But let me offer a shorter version:
Yes. Your typical Slav girl will be more inclined towards traditional roles, such as raising children and taking care of the home. But she will still work as your average western woman, still expect to marry up as your average western woman (hypergamy is not a societal construct), and still divorce rape you, if you fail to "grow with her" and get complacent -- or if she just feels like it, feelz before realz. The biggest difference is that Slav women put significantly less emphasis on career.
Oh yeah, and they sleep around, just like western women. The "serial monogamy" is for many (admittedly not all!) Slavs just a facade put up to appease the more traditional society they live in. The open promiscuity is not yet the god west has made it to be, so it has to be hidden. But that does not mean it does not exist.
This, combined with the fact that sex in "serial monogamy" is not as much of a taboo as in US, means that parents generally don't mind children starting sex much earlier, if they think they don't sleep around. The only good part is that schools take this into account (not everywhere), and Slav sex ed is not the joke US calls a sex ed. Look up age of consent across Slav countries, and compare the rate of venereal disease and teen pregnancies with "civilized" US. Proceed to shit brix.
Not to mention that if you decide to move to a more rural area, you are expected to build (not buy) a house for her, to show you're a real man. I wish I made the last part up.
[deleted] 5y ago
So real, i live on hard mode here.
Cant_Tell_Me_Nothin 5y ago
I work with a lot of Polish men in construction. They're a rare breed. When it comes to dealing with other men, they are pretty Alpha and tough. But when it comes to dealing with women, their white knight/trad-con tendencies make them pretty supplicating and beta. I see their wives come in all the time to their job to pick up his check, because she is the one who handles most of his money.
I've also dealt with a lot of American Polish girls. A lot of them are very pretty but they have sort of masculine personalities.
pavlitoescobar 5y ago
Thats how it is in these types of countries, most men are alpha when it comes to dealing with others but with their wives It’s just the programming they receive from a young age ”a man needs to work for his wife and kids” “wives stay home to housewife and raise kids”
majcisen 5y ago
Born and living in eastern europe too.. was abroad in germany,netherlands and turkey and im sure our chicks are much hoter.. plus i did heard about feminism once in real life and it was just some crazy chick
chaossan1 5y ago
Polish guy here, born in Germany, have been living in central Europe and Asia but hq always in Poland. I disagree with polish girls being crazy, this behaviour is indicator of male's value. If you raise your level and either impose your frame or meet high quality girls even Thai's are loyal and sane. In comparison to more westernized countries traditionaly raised women of Poland are angels. I see bigger influence on young generation of boys than girls. Just remember, in every herd there is a black sheep. And that if you want to fuck 20 old beauty them you get crazy 99% of time just because she is 20 and a hot babe. Applies everywhere I lived and fucked around.
oneorigin 5y ago
Poland may be more religious than its neighbors, but things in atheist/paganist Russia are almost exactly the same. Western women are all alike. Our countries are better than more Western, especially when it comes to alimony, but it's not a critical difference.
Our girls (especially Russian/Ukrainian/Belorussian) look more feminine/sexy than in more feminized countries. That's really nice. But inside they are all the same.
trp_throwaway_88 5y ago
Poland is obviously different from Hungary, Romania, Ukraine, etc. but do you think the same general cultural 'rules' apply there too?
twdziki 5y ago
Yes. Although the more South you go, the more of a classical "macho" culture you get. Think North America vs. South America, but not that extreme.
Still, the tradcon values are stronk though.
sgtmajorproblem 5y ago
Hungarian dude here: I think the Polish chicks are very similar to Hungarian ones, dated both nations. As a Hungarian, I prefer Eastern European girls. Lived 16 years abroad (Dublin, London, Munich etc. ) and always missed the beautiful girls while there, despite those cities are bigger than Budapest, but lack beautiful girls. Literally, you can spend 1 week in Dublin without to see a hot chick who is Irish :D
trp_throwaway_88 5y ago
Ireland BTFO. Gingers will never recover
juju515 5y ago
"If you want to know why did the English men traveled and conquered the world... you just need to check how the English women look like..."
LOL
ps.
I'm Balkan living in Ireland for the past 4 years...
and Irish girls are just as bad... (and for some reason they all look alike)
dankvibez 5y ago
While locally, women are being told by the church etc. to be a good wife and not be a slut, globalist forces are telling them to be a slut. I think this leads them to being less slutty, and trying to hide the sluttiness.
Probably better than in western countries where if a woman is not fucking guys on the side, she is "missing out" and "oppressed" by a jealous husband.
JamesSkepp 5y ago
Don't forget that locally men are told to be a good plow horse too.
Which, for an average non-RP man, is a bad thing.
CaptainBW 5y ago
Well hot damn, count me a part of the New World Order then because I love a good slut and I love when women give in to their temptations. They’re little sexual Energies, after all. Mother Nature selects and wants the best.
jewishsupremacist88 5y ago
slavs are jews without the brains. as someone who is half slavic and half ashkenazi (jewish by law) all i can say is that there is a reason why hitler didnt want these people to be part of the reich.
Toussant 5y ago
I think he didn't want Jews in there either.
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[deleted] 5y ago
Slavs are having a big heart, but rarely use full capacity of their brains, u can be sure of that, slav is speaking. They tend to stay in their comfort zone as long as possible. Inclined to nature, but avoiding the risk, and not applying the wisdom. Generally, that is slavic outlook at life.
jewishsupremacist88 5y ago
this is why jews were getting pogromed in pol/ukr/rus. they took advantage of you gentiles and subjugated you within a decade or two.
[deleted] 5y ago
Yes, same reason why they so easily made russians to kill own royal family and establish insane communism. Similar goes with Yugoslavia. Naivety of those people is very obvious, they tend to endure suffering, hoping and repeating unhealty patterns. But, despites of that, they are not as destroyed as western anglo countries are, in the terms of insane laws, family destruction and censorship.
jewishsupremacist88 5y ago
its why we call you goyim. in all honesty though, being an irishmen is lower than being a slav.
[deleted] 5y ago
Man, you had a gorgeous celtic culture, but suffered greatly from the Crown. Basically, they used irish as a workforce for the New World. As I know, Ireland is bent over as much as Australia, playground of the monsters.
stepanfedorov 5y ago
so funny man. Reread history and look excactly how many slavs serves in Third Reich.
Tesla in your opinion aslo didn't have brian?
Btw what's the correlation between jews and slavs?
jewishsupremacist88 5y ago
so? they were cannon fodder. lots of jews served in the SS as well (or people who were considered untermensch)
knickerblocker 5y ago
Came here for utter crazy. Was not disappointed.
lala_xyyz 5y ago
The last big pogrom (Holocaust) nearly wiped European Jews. With today's technology for locating and identifying I'd kindly STFU, because if a next big pogrom comes there won't be a need for another one.
jewishsupremacist88 5y ago
we will all be in israel while you goyim fight amongst one another. why do you think we're flooding it with muslims and other subhman trash? so we can scurry away to the holy land
lala_xyyz 5y ago
Israel has been infected with feminism while orthodoxs and muslims outbreed the normal Jews. It's surrounded by enemies. It's just a matter of time before it implodes (or explodes lel). Should've taken the Soviet offer in Siberia. Muslims are a nuisance not a threat, though a necessary one at this point - it'll simply consolidate ethno-based identities and provide a reason to undo the decades of degenerate progressivism. But this time the job will be done systematically.
jewishsupremacist88 5y ago
in 20 years israel will be a jewish version of saudi arabia. there are lots of problems in the holy land but we arent going to just let it go to shit after all we did to make it. i believe most jews in the diaspora will be forced to move to Israel in the coming years
lala_xyyz 5y ago
I watched a documentary on feminist laws in Israel, hypergamy is out in full force. You have a democracy and it's just a matter of time that laws get skewed and gene pool gets cucked. It's a road in a single direction.
jewishsupremacist88 5y ago
yep. highest suicide rate for males in the western world. lol
Jonny-Wavenhoe 5y ago
Good and interesting points.
Not sure why so many MGTOW don't like sluts, though. Aren't they our bit on the side without too many of risks we're rebelling against?
[deleted] 5y ago
I always thought of Eastern Europe as some kind of "Rich red pilled guys paradise". I see guys like the Tate brothers, Roosh and other bitcoin guys who just moved there and living the party scene life.
leledada00 5y ago
Yeah they're not foolish for coming here, I'm from Romania and trust me, if you got some money and especially a nice car, Romanian bitches are materialistic af, you're gonna be fucking like a bunny.
[deleted] 5y ago
Thats interesting. Specially in Romania i noticed lots of people who got rich off bitcoin, and redpilled guys tend to move there. Currently follwing the Tate brothers on social media, and seems like they having a good time over there.
twdziki 5y ago
More like "rich guy paradise" - not only you're competing against guys who on average earn less, you have women who really like money.
Also, remember that in your eyes you're red pilled, but to those women you bring them the taste of Western decadence.
Which is why I'm not going to discourage you from playing the game there. Just don't settle and become a part of the system, because you'll be very disappointed.
The people you've mentioned have "fuck you money" too, so it's easy for them to ignore the less pleasant aspects for Eastern European society.
[deleted] 5y ago
That's interesting. Always wanted to visit eastern Europe, especially Romania and Ukraine, but never really got around to it.
This might be off topic, but how would a " black dude" like myself, living in Northern Europe do over there?
twdziki 5y ago
There isn't a lot of black people here, so there's no historical animosity towards them or anything. You'll be fine.
Although you definitely will be a curiosity, so be ready for people staring and stuff. I guess if you're really PC you could be bothered by people noticing your unusual (for the region) skin color, but since you're on TRP I'm assuming you are not.
bkrugby78 5y ago
I'd definitely recommend Romania. It's absolutely one of the more beautiful countries I've visited. What I love about Eastern Europe is you get the history for way less than Western Europe and the women are drop dead beautiful.
exubaficent 5y ago
One more thing important to note: while what OP says is all true, one big factor that differentiates the girls from Eastern Europe and the West is that the eastern girls are much more feminine on average, and thus much more pleasant (I've found) to hang around or game.
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
Bear in mind that Poland is different from Russia and Ukr because Poles are overwhelmingly Catholic and Russia and Ukr, in terms of people who are believers, are primarily Orthodox. While I prefer to avoid religious girls, and well, religious people in general, the Orthodox are more hard core than Roman Catholics. They haven't had a decent pope since JPII who was, of course, Polish. Once you toss out the ex-Nazi,t he rest of them are a bunch of Prada-wearing boy buggerers who richly deserve to roast in hell.
Edit: On the plus side Poland has this guy in their parliament. He's a fucking BALLER. And yes, that's Cathy Newman - last seen getting crushed by Jordan Peterson - screeching "But...but...but aren't you a bunch of RAYYYYYCIIIIIISSSTS?!" at him.
[deleted] 5y ago
Cathy Newman is the biggest cunt I have ever seen in my life. Everything about her- voice, body language, facial expressions... cunt, cunt, cunt. Could you imagine being married to her? Every year of life would be like aging 5 years.
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
I couldn't imagine being in the same room with her for longer than it took me to reach the door, or to toss her out a window.
[deleted] 5y ago
I'll bet you ANYTHING that she loves getting dominated in bed too. She seems like the kind of girl that would be begging you to slap her and choke her 30 seconds after you start fucking.
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
Could be. I hadn't entertained the thought. She's well post-Wall^SPLAT! and presents as a total shrew as well.
twdziki 5y ago
IMHO the real reason Poland doesn't take immigrants is because Islam is tradcon on steroids and we don't like being beaten in our own game.
DoomzDayTurkey 5y ago
could you explain, also what do you mean by tradcon
twdziki 5y ago
Tradcon is "traditionalist conservatism". In tradcon societies both genders have very clearly defined roles. RP guys like it because it puts some responsibility and accountability back on women. But they forget that men on the other hand are expected to provide for women and protect them, even at the cost of their own well-being, even if the chick doesn't do anything outside of maybe popping babies.
And Islam is that, but instead of facing social ostracism for not conforming to your gender role, you get hanged by an angry mob.
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VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
Could be. Or it could be the child rape and the terrorism. YMMV.
twdziki 5y ago
Popping kids as young as possible is at the core of tradcon values though...
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
But raping them is not, so....
twdziki 5y ago
Do you think anyone cared about consent in the older eras that tradcons idolize? Especially with European conservatives, who strive for societies much older than 1950s?
But Abrahamic religions and ideologies based on them aside - there are many good reasons to not want Muslim immigrants in your country, but the ones you've mentioned are just fears fueled by media hungry for violent drama.
destraht 5y ago
They are just socialized poorly, don't produce much wealth and always their groups bring huge swings of terrorist activities. Meh.
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
Your “WHATABOUT-ism” aside, what I care about is NOW, and there is NO reason to open up decent countries to a bunch of street-shitting, child-raping religious crazies.
twdziki 5y ago
All I'm saying is that if you really cared about "child-raping religious crazies" you'd be pressing for expelling catholic priests from those countries as well.
/u/destraht provided much better reason for not welcoming the immingrants: They're just not interested in being productive memebers of Western society.
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
That’s “WHATABOUT-ism”....plus you evidently missed the part where I referred to most modern popes as “Prada-wearing boy buggerers”, mostly because it doesn’t fit your narrative that I must dislike Catholic pedo-priests an “equal amount”. As it happens I did express hope that they were (or will) “roast in hell”, but again, doesn’t fit your narrative.
All of hat aside, I am under no obligation to list every reason I am not interested in importing turd-flinging Muslim pedos in every post lest someone think I am being “unfair” to them by not disliking white pedos “enough”. I like living in a high trust, high cohesion environment. It shouldn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that importing a bunch of low-skill street shitters who are not even remotely prepared to live in civilized societies threatens that.
twdziki 5y ago
I genuinely missed that. In that case I apologize.
-Mavs 5y ago
I lived with a Polish guy who had yellow fever; these women were no better.
The end of civilization as we know it.
Krang_thedragon 5y ago
Hmm.. I see guys here fail with the same complaints you are raising. But I also see them identifying problems, and losing frame. They are not making the next steps to RP. They see a problem, and fail back to beta blue. They also seem to default to searching for LTR- FAIL!!!
I don't give a f*ck and maintain frame. Strike out? happens, but not often.
My advice for your rant/complaints, ----> Look for a plate, and not a LTR. LTR is a beta thing. Spin up, drop, and break plates.
If they want to drone on about wanting kids, etc, time to drop/break and find a new plate.
rand0m0mg 5y ago
Romania is the eastern europe you’re looking for.
menial_optimist 5y ago
Poland was fucked up by Communism. It's going to take a few generations to breed the social aspects of communism out of society.
Blckclaw 5y ago
So the question is, is there a point trying if I'm not a rich westerner?
pavlitoescobar 5y ago
You need expensive looking clothes because that’s how they judge westerners
twdziki 5y ago
If you're from the West/First World country, many will assume that you have more money than them regardless of reality.
And you can always play up your exoticism - for some reason chicks in homogeneous countries like that. Maybe it's an instinctual drive to diversify the gene pool?
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unchaintheblock 5y ago
Polish girls can't stop yakking. Too many insecurities and too noisy for my taste.
[deleted] 5y ago
Boutta head to the gym so I’ll read the full thing later. But from what the title says 100% true. All the sizes are smaller, it’s practically impossible to find shoes in my size. They’re just small, weak men there. And in my 3 months traveling numerous countries I saw 2 fucking gyms. The men are a joke. They’re weak and scrawny with the occasional chad absolutely bathing in women.
rand0m0mg 5y ago
You should see America - its like that; but 10x worse
sandal_on 5y ago
It's funny you call Eastern men weak while US soldiers run from terrorists unless they bomb them ten times and then come to pick off dying fighters. I am sure Eastern men would be much more braver than US if ww3 broke out.
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[deleted] 5y ago
God, I really hope this is a troll. Correct your grammar next time you try to insult the men that fight for my freedom. I’m only going to entertain your thought for self satisfaction even though it is hardly relevant to my statement. Would you run towards the building you just saw the man you spent the last 2 years of your life get blown up in? No, and if you said yes, that’s just blatant stupidity. Word of wisdom, bravery doesn’t win wars. This isn’t the 1700s. Economy, intimidation, and convention do. But that is hardly relevant, just like your comment.
AntwanAntoon 5y ago
Nobody is fighting for your freedom, it's not even under threat. Why are you on TRP?
wankyjoe 5y ago
Idk... never have trouble getting laid in Poland. America sucks dick tho
Svenz_Lv 5y ago
Well..Poland is a bad example due to its population believing in in imaginary things, rest of east europe is huffing less glue and makes more sense.