Anytime you trust your LTR or plate or whoever that they won't go around and do crazy stuff with other guys, just remind yourself that the most innocent looking girl has the potential to have a foursome on a whim with three random guys.
Have plate/friends with benefits girl that I've been seeing on and off for 5-6 months. We date a lot, almost to the point of relationship amounts, but she wanted a relationship, I told her I wouldn't commit, and we both know a relationship wouldn't work. We have sex on and off. Sometimes its two to three weeks without sex, then we'll have sex nonstop some weekend.
Anyways, this girl is HB 9 but she's 29 and the Wall is looming. She 5'10, fit with an incredible ass, long legs and model like features. Her personality isn't that great because she's somewhat dim and dramatic/emotional. But she's extremely outgoing, bubbly, and has the innocent girl next door Midwestern look and charm that your mom would adore. She's somewhat out of my league and has dated a laundry list of Chads. Only reason I could land a 9 is because she's somewhat lower consciousness, her looks are slipping and I have pretty decent game thanks to TRP and RSD.
We went to a local music festival in the city. On the second night, she left the last main show early to catch up with her friend and friend's husband, who left the show much earlier to go to bar across street. I told her I meet up with her and them afterwards. I find her later and eventually we kind of drift into different groups of conversations/I go closer to the stage at the bar. I find her later talking to some good looking dude, which isn't surprising because she talks to everyone and is constantly getting hit on while out. Later, the band stopped playing and she was still talking to this dude at a table with all of his friends. I didn't want to intrude and was pretty drunk so I go pass out in her car, which was close by and my phone died so no Lyft opportunity.
I wake up in the early morning around 5 and get a call (cell now charged) from her at the same time. She wondered whether I have her backpack and told me to just stay at her place. She also had texted me four of five times around 130 asking me why I left her. She gets back to her place around 6 and looks sort of weird. Just a weird vibe. I asked her where was she, and she said she went to a hotel with a guy. I asked her if she fucked him. She said no, and then said "well". She then goes "I have to tell you something, I just got railed by three guys". And starts tearing up saying she's such a terrible person, and "I was basically raped....well not really but I didn't have a choice. I was so drunk". I was shocked and pressed her for details but she just said a guy said he had a hotel room, it sounded intriguing and somehow his two bodies joined too. She also did a lot of coke. I tried to ask who were these dudes and she said some guys I met. And apparently wasn't the guy she was talking to all night. Next morning she asked if we're still going tonight, and I said why not (knowing full well she meant if I didn't want to see her now because of what happened), and she gives this micro-expression smirk and says "was just wondering". So, this sweet Midwestern girl next door Really didn't regret her late night foursome.
Well sex will be off the table, until I least forget about what she did. And it sounds like r- ask trp but I know what I'm doing and just going to see her less and probably ween away from her.
I also know that I will not put anything past a girl I have a thing with, no matter how harmless of an image they give off to the world.
Edit: thanks for all the advice, didn't know I needed it but I've been an idiot. She basically wrote me off because I came down hard on her, thanks to people's push to do so. Also something I've considered is she found about a plate of mine that same day earlier, who I had been seeing for four months on and off, and I knew she didn't take it well. She was annoyed I didn't tell her but given a bunch of follow up questions about who she was, I knew she was pissed. Her goal I think was to slow game me and hope I'd eventually commit.
Kornstar04 5y ago
If a women ever tells me she was taped, I ask if she has reported it to police. If she hasn't or doesn't plan to, it was consensual.
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Sisu6972 5y ago
Ghost her, no turning back.
razorbledzhurtmyeyes 5y ago
I disagree and agree with these other comments to a certain extent. Personally, I think the red pill theory is based on building yourself (your mindset) up to become emotionally unavailable to girls and this so much that you might be considering your self objectifying them in a way that makes you sociopathically egoistical. You are the main character of the movie here, and you have to believe it in all situasions, that way nothing she does will matter.. she’s just another hoe hoeing around. Dont put her on a pedestal and make her the only girl. This will only make you care about her actions. You should basically think of her actions as irrelevant as they would be if you had never even met her, like she’s just a random girl some friend told you had banged 3 guys at the same time in a hotel room after doing coke. With this being the main goal you should look at girls like they’re basically nothing but something you use for your own pleasure every once in a while, and therefore it should not matter wether she has other guys fucking her or not. So if she fucks anyone else or not, nothing should really matter to you. You should either be the guy that fucks her AND multiple other women at the same time, that doesn’t even care/notice if she’s been fucking other guys because from your perspective you have a lot of girls you’re fucking anyways and you’re too busy with yourself anyways. Or the guy that has alot of women but still doesnt like the fact that she openly admits she fucks other guys. If you choose to be the last guy, no problem, guys have a huge ego so I understand. But then you can just cut the bitch off and continue fucking the remaining girls you have, while you look for new girls. Easy as that.
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Good perspective. That's basically where I was coming from but a lot of guys said run from this cum bucket and changed my mind. But she isn't the only one, and it really shouldn't matter in a stoic sense. Being so harsh was needed but also it is pedestalizing.
Not feeling like wanting to be around that pussy right now for obvious reasons, but I might just cut way back on seeing her and may just work an occasional fuck here and there because she is just a slut, who cares as long as protected.
razorbledzhurtmyeyes 5y ago
Sounds like you’ve got control my man. Keep it up
re4d3 5y ago
Everyone's hardcore alpha, wanna fuck the first evening and stuff and then recoil in disgust when "just the plate" does exactly that, just with someone else. A rectangle circle. Nature inside you says such sluts are no go, std risk, poor potential mothers but everyone braggs by his tryhard level of sociopathy, I fuck three, man your beta, I fuck five, feel nothing!
If you were to be outbred by Amish, fuck that, but you will be replaced by offspring of that crazy commie democrat bitch, turning your country into Venezuela. Yeah but you wanted just blowjobs, cause you could not manage your bitch, even with all that "rp toolbox". Pathetic.
[deleted] 5y ago
Lost you on second paragraph. What are you talking about?
presto_manifesto 5y ago
The shear amount of envy oozing from this post at those three dudes who railed your midwestern princess raw is pretty hilarious.
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Haven't ever been down for running train. I think it's a plate gets taken that way, there gonna naturally be discomfort, also that ass is gone now and not on your terms
IPunishIron 5y ago
"I was shocked and pressed her for details"
investment. dont do that. you know what she is from the get go, you teasingly rub it in, put your magic wand in, move to the next, you can tell her.. "well, thats what you do, isn't it?" stoic with a smirk my friend. here is the next move, stand her out or give her a farewell fuck and tell her you disgust me, thats all.
WoodWizzy87 5y ago
Dude the wall is like 27... she’s 3 years past already
This could all have been prevented by..... “hey, I’m bored, I’m going to X bar to party, you coming?” You make her make a decision ASAP and then bail regardless
NeedingAdvice86 5y ago
Yeah...SWEET, INNOCENT 29year old cokehead bouncing around EDM raves....self denial.
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Forreal. Didn't think of that. She did sound crystal clear on that 5am phone call. Much different when I left her when she was slurring and sloppy. When I saw her Sunday night, she brought up that she wasn't allowed back in a bar because she was too drunk. ASD. Called bullshit on that. And she couldn't back her story up
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Good points haha yah pretty fucking dumb shit but I really didn't care she was out doing her thing, she was annoying me at that point of the night. I was working on another girl at one of the venues. So some might say that's cucking but I do that with any of my plates. Let them do their own and if they go back with some dude so be it. Really not invested emotionally although replies on here have called me out for being emotionally invested
WoodWizzy87 5y ago
To casually be banging a chick for 6 months and not getting attached at all takes a man with a steel determination. You are somewhat man. I still think you’re in shock that this chick did this
[deleted] 5y ago
Yeah definitely in shock still and laughing out loud how absurd I was running with a chick that scummy. Emotional attachment wasnt there on surface but definitely affects you when your main girl gets that done to her
Youngyoda89 5y ago
Your post starts with “no matter how innocent a girl looks”... I got news for you buddy- if she “talks to” anyone/ everyone- she’s not innocent in the slightest bit. This was a hard learned lesson for me but thankfully this is now something that I can recognize immediately, even through text.
A lot of people still don’t realize the value of time here but let me tell you something- next that bitch. You’re demonstrating a scarcity mentality. It’s not about getting hurt from what she did. It’s about realizing that you’re wasting your time hanging around her. Trust me there are much higher quality girls to be plated out there. Don’t bother with this one.
nofilmynofucky 5y ago
lol I don't care if she is a 9, that's utterly disgusting and I wouldn't put my dick anywhere near her. She sounds like a walking petri dish hah
curiouswanderer2 5y ago
Right? Why would anyone want to bang her AFTER she's had a foursome with 3 chads. Got gonorrhea twice before doing shit like that since I hate condoms. There's no last minute fucks in a bitch that I have no respect for.
nofilmynofucky 5y ago
Coke fueled orgies tend to have a distinct lack of condoms, imagine how many different loads were sloshing around in her the next day haha good lord
SimpleJacked 5y ago
You are correct about this example AWALT. Most guys don't see their true nature until it's too late.
She did this because you would not commit. End of the night since you ditched her she said yes to anything. She tried getting back at you but failed in a slutacular way.
If you react to her behavior that is the emotional rise she is looking for. It is really fucked that she would go that far. Think about the poor fuck who marries this manipulative nut job. AWALT so don't get married.
No harm in letting her beg to suck your dick as last resort plate. Put in zero effort. Continue to not give a fuck and wrap it up.
godeepinit 5y ago
I think she would have done something like this anyway whether or not he was willing to commit. Op, slowly find new girls that give you what you get from this one and fade away. Nothing you can give her now will match being fucked by 3 guys.
SimpleJacked 5y ago
Yea it's hard to tell, could have been one or both. She probably acts this way in a committed relationship too. Hit and quit a girl like this. Less drama in the long run.
MyReddit6 5y ago
Dump this loser.
Is this the type of person you want to waste time with? An ex was into the model/coke circuit with her idiot druggy friends - two of them would do stunts like this every weekend. New it was only a matter of time till it corrupted my girl.
I did the same thing but with one key difference "yeah, cya tonite…"
Followed by ghosting forever.
thewrecker8 5y ago
I'm sure this chick has more red flags galore. The ride is over. Don't stick your dick in there again. There's plenty of other chicks out there. Also I don't believe her story. What was more likely she was chatting with him. He was trying to get her to party she just didn't all of a sudden get coke sprung on her. She knew what she was getting into she fed you an ASD.
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Ya definitely red flags, part of reason I never wanted to commit to her. I've been an idiot and stuck around because the sex was good. And what do you not believe from her story? She apparently went back with different dudes than the one guy she was talking to for a while. And what is ASD?
thewrecker8 5y ago
Even worse if she's wound up with other dudes. Another flag. Don't stick your dick in crazy. I don't believe the whole "it just happened" variation. She goes back to a dudes hotel, i'm sure she these other cocks just didn't magically appear after she got back there and she's doing coke with them. Did she think it was just going to a night a playing scrabble with these guys? ASD is an acronym for Anti Slut Defense.
thearmchairwarrior 5y ago
Ghost the whore. She claims rape on regret sex. You don't' want to be the guy one day she regrets and calls the cops on.
RUn RUn RUn.
Reminds me of that girl who called rape after BF found out she had sex with the football team. She claim rape. Cops arrested dudes. News are full of these fake rape stories over regret sex.
Hjalmbere 5y ago
My crystal ball tells me that some guy is not going to do his due diligence and wife her up. She’ll be banging her PT, the children’s baseball coach, and the milk man, while hubby is slaving away in the office and the kids run wild. Modern life.
MrCarepig 5y ago
Then now you have a threesome with her.
Sureshot1013 5y ago
The “best” part is.... it’s still probably worse than she admitted .... however if you can get that scenario out of your head ... no reason not to keep fucking her... most girls her age that are single ..have equally bad behaviors .... this girls just happen to be in your face at the moment
MyReddit6 5y ago
Also - sidenote. I get it, we plate bitches and them hoez aint loyal, blah blah blah
But don't you guys have any self respect? If YOU are out at an event, concert, lunch, party etc with a PLATE that you have sex with..... I don't care if you're not "exclusive" that's huge disrespect if she flirts/fucks other guys at the same venue you took her too. You ain't plating right if she's not worried about you checking other girls there...
And guess what, bro - YOU'RE AT FAULT. YOUR FRAME IS ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN.
FFS - even if you aren't exclusive what kind of person wants to be seen in public with a girl, and then she goes off and is flirting elsewhere? LOW VALUE. After 30+ plates, I've NEVER had a girl do something like that even if we were just fwb because she knows I would walk out immediately. It would be IMMEDIATE ghosting.
You need to respect and value your own company more, and not pass out in some ho's car while she gets gang banged
187oddfuture 5y ago
I think you don’t really understand what a plate is. A plate is a girl you date casually and bang. Simple enough, right? Problem is in this instance, you didn’t take her out on a date, on YOUR time. You take her to this festival, she ditches you early to go to some bar, you let her talk to a bunch of guys, then you pass out in her car and she gets gangbanged. Where’s the benefit for you? When you take a plate out, she’s lucky to get YOUR time. You go out, have fun with each other, and fuck. Rinse/repeat don’t catch feelings. If I took a plate out and she hit on other dudes on MY time, instant next and ghost. It’s blatant disrespect and shows what she really thinks about you. Hard next for your own sake bro.
NeedingAdvice86 5y ago
Not everyone can put pussy below their self-worth and self-respect..the Op would likely willing hold her purse and wipe the sweat from her forehead while she was getting fucked repeatedly by any number of other guys to keep access to her....but, of course, he was working another girl <wink\wink>....and then he ran over to comfort her with purse in hand and took her on another date at the festival the next night.
Whereby she like met up with one or two of the threesome guys to get fucked again and laugh about the loser eunuch waiting like a good puppy to Uber around the festival.
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Valid points. I stuck around with her because the sex was good and which as you said pretty fucking disrespectful to my self. And ya sounds like I'm covering myself with working another girl haha but it was the case. I've been trying for a month or two now to find better plates or something steady but been unsuccessful. This foursome slut is not my type. And it's hard to fucking tell whether she's trying to betafy me. I don't know how I got her backpack but I'm guessing she did pawn it off to me, because she knew no matter what she was going to go home with a dude. Now that I'm typing it out, it probably was the case ha. But I also couldve asked for her keys and she just gave me her backpack and told me to take it with me to her car.
Zhigaag 5y ago
In my experience, if a woman knows how to fuck and fucks well thats because she does it regularly enough with enough of a variety of guys to know what she's doing. That's why it's called experience.
In short, she's a hoe.
If you even kissed her since then, much less stuck your dick in her, In would run, not walk, to the STD Clinic and throw a twenty at some testing.
Three guys all bang a random chick they just met, including drug use. You cannot tell me that these guys were clean; I'd be afraid of my dick falling off after that.
187oddfuture 5y ago
She hasn’t tried to Betafy you, she’s succeeded. The second you let her flirt with and go home with other guys on what is supposed to be precious time with you, it’s over. She has no respect for you and your balls are in her purse. Hard next for your own sake, refresh yourself with the sidebar and read up on game. Try daygame for more plates, and maybe hinge. I hear hinge is the wave rn.
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Now that I think about it, this all couldve been retaliation because she found out about another plate. And ya, idk how the fuck I got her backpack but she definitely gave it to me at end of night. Think I just wanted her keys
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[deleted] 5y ago
Haha. Almost believable given she used to fuck a Nick.
DeeplyDisturbed1 5y ago
Read the side bar pal. You have a rough road ahead of you. Read and pay more attention to what's being said.
oneorigin 5y ago
Coke, foursome... I bet she is innocent looking to you only. Same for HB9.
RedHoodhandles 5y ago
Dude what? The fuck is this..
You should have faded into thin air right on the spot she told you her sweet little princess story. Insta ghost.
Have some self-respect.
Cagalhoto2002 5y ago
Don't waste your time with such filthy people op. I feel disgusted just reading about your story. Its gross that there are guys that will share a bitch to fuck. STDs everywhere. Sounds very homo in my opinion.
By the way you should post the story on her Facebook, slut shame her, and start drama just for the fun of it lol. ???? ????
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Why would he do that? Just ghost her. No real man starts drama just for the fun of it. That's female behavior.
Mr-Ed209 5y ago
I feel like your pedastaling her because you enjoy the status it gives you to be around some hot chick at a music festival. This whole plate attitude of 'she's free to do what she wants as am i...' I mean yeah maybe when you're not on each others time and attending an event together.
This just reads like a cuckold fantasy with some BS defence letting her off the hook with 'we're not exclusive'. She does not respect you man, get the fuck away from this damaged bitch, I can't mince words on that. It doesn't matter if it's a non exclusive relationship, don't even 'plate' women who leave you to gang bang 3 other dudes. Seriously wtf is this shit?
jklifexxx 5y ago
“Cuckold Fantasy” shit had me dying ????????????
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I think I'd have to stop seeing her as well. Even if you are not exclusive and she is hot, why is she telling you about this? I just don't want any type of ongoing relationship with a woman that told me she got gang-banged. Disgusting. The "basically raped" thing is a big red flag too. If she's willing to say she was raped in this situation, she might be willing to use it against you some day if she doesn't get what she wants.
And yes you are correct that he got cucked. Again, doesn't matter whether it's technically exclusive or not. She started the night with him, wandered off to a gang-bang, then came back to him in the morning full of cum from several other men. Not sure how that doesn't qualify as a cucking.
Orbiter45 5y ago
I'm glad some one said that. This reads to me like OP just got cucked in a major way.
They have sex, and spend allot of time together, nearly a LTR. The gal goes to an event with him, but leaves with another guy, gets drunk, does drugs, and has sex with 3 guys. Then with the smallest amount of regret and effort, she resets her FWB relationship with OP.
Its like a demonstration of power. She demonstrated that she can get railed by 3 men, anytime she wants, while OP will wait in the car with her bag.
BewareTheOldMan 5y ago
"She demonstrated that she can get railed by 3 men, anytime she wants, while OP will wait in the car with her bag."
For good measure she insults ACTUAL rape victims by adding "she was basically raped - after getting railed by three guys, getting drunk, and snorting lines of coke" (on purpose).
What else was SUPPOSED to happen to a reasonably attractive woman who VOLUNTARILY goes to a hotel room with three RANDOM dudes?
She's lucky she wasn't kidnapped, held hostage for days, continually raped, tortured, beaten, and then left for dead in a dark forest.
OP is a lost cause if he treats this woman as if she has any redeemable value. She's your basic used-up, Pass-Around Slut. That's it.
Even worse is that some unsuspecting Blue Pill Idiot-SIMP will likely marry this damaged shell of a useless whore when she's ready "to settle" with a Nice Guy.
Women are losing their respect and protected status by the second. Society's "social contract" is now a bad joke.
hearse223 5y ago
Plus she's 29, really she should know better.
aShiftyLad 5y ago
lol dont insinuate that women, especially aging HB9, have ANY form of self-reflective nature.
they are mentally children. she clearly doesnt CARE to know better.
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This. A woman's emotional maturity at 17 is about as developed as it will ever get.
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Ruby_Red_Pill_Maker 5y ago
My take is that you're an orbiter and just don't know it.
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It might look like that. I used to be a little orbiter shit when I was younger til I woke up. Case was essentially a FWB and her hope of slow gaming me to commit. She increased shit tests in past two weeks, I met her friends for first time, more blowjobs and bought me food bunch of times. Think as someone else said I'm the nice guy she wants to settle down with. She even came up with idea living together as friends since her lease is about up. I said no chance.
VillagersUnite 5y ago
To me this is still so jarring. How do people toss around rape as if its no big deal? Even though I've been reading and understanding it still just trips me up when i read stories like these.
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I still remember the first time some chick told me she was basically raped in undergrad. That's the exact phrase they all use. "Basically raped" - as if there is some sort of sliding scale of whether you were raped or not. Over time I came to realize that women actually view rape very differently than men. For us it is very simple. You either were raped or you were not. You made it clear that you were not consenting and he forced you to have sex which is rape, or that did not happen and there was no rape.
For women, rape somehow exists along a continuum though. At the extreme end is the rare case of the stranger dragging her into the bushes or the guy that slips something in her drink. Then at the other hand you have "basically raped," which can be as simple as her being drunk, or maybe she puts up LMR but then melts when the guy starts rubbing her pussy.
Very scary stuff. This is why women should not be given any decision making authority in our society. Their brains simply do not work the same way. Everything is subjective and based on emotion. They really do not experience objective reality the way that a man does.
Sexquestionhelp22 5y ago
Thats what rape used to be before hookup culture. Now women leave the bar with men at 4am to go home, get to their place and put up a little bit of resistance. Guy pushes back because he's been led on and the girl gives it up. Rape? I don't think so
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Yeah, there's some insight and stuff to unravel with what she said. I think it's the knee jerk euphemism for any girl that uses it as a defense to water down their promiscuity.
Gibbles86 5y ago
Plate broke. Find a new bitch
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IPunishIron 5y ago
well buddy, i gotta break it to you, but why are you even paying attention to this slut and her problems and holding her backpack and hanging out with her, should be making it straight forward from the get go what the deal is, where you stand, what shes worth to you. i know a lot of guys have this same issue. you are getting too involved with this 2 dollar snow flake. You are just lowering your value by saying sure why not. Make it clear, give her a fuck or two more but you know be stone cold and say her, deal is you are a slut, and get rammed by a dozen guy and three guys just the other night, you dont regret it getting railed in your holes, and you expect me or any other guy to take you as anything more.
look at it this way the guys who railed this slut isn't hearing her problems, you are. now you wana come off as a friend or something FWB but ultimately you gotta understand, This chick is blue pill cucking you my man.
Now you say you are out of her league, shes nearing 30 and is a slut, (most of them are) but deal is improve yourself..
flapjacksrbetter 5y ago
My man got that wisdom like Uncle Iroh ????
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Damn. Perspective changer. I thought I had in under control but that is sort of cucking.
Andgelyo 5y ago
Agree with the above post my dude, sounds like this chick is keeping around to betafy you. It’s extremely important to be self aware of how others are treating you. Do not tolerate that shit. Next this hoe.
NeedingAdvice86 5y ago
She also did a lot of coke.....the amount of self-denial and delusion in some of these shits...
He has talked himself into some much pedestalization with this chick because she fucked him a few times...likely when one of her main Chads wasn't available and she need a dick.
Yeah, she is some sweet innocent Midwestern HB9....doing coke at 29 years old and bouncing around a dick a night at EDM raves...she is one of the gone late twenty fucking party girls who might\"might" have been attractive when she was 19 but who was so toxic\shitty as a person that decent dudes pumped and dumped her quickly...now she is headed for the catlady\hating men spinster hag in her middle 30s that you see trolling hotel lounges.
HB9 sweet, innocent my ass.
IPunishIron 5y ago
Well, I say well..I want to see OP become the main chad, and we have already told him what the deal is, and what it isn't, I have said how I would go at it, and you know its up to him how he goes at it but thats what we can do you know.
And "pedestalization with this chick because she fucked him a few times" - Yes, This happens all too often, because most guys are using datin 1.0 while the new rules are dating 3.0 that woman use, see you are meant to have some bonds biologically what makes the man is when he can accept this aint gonna happen, this is best as it gets and so be it, see specially when we dont realize we start palatalizing these sluts, probably wont happen to a veteran like you or me whos accepted reality and not buying the disney love bs, but hey lots of younger folks out here// Here is one, the best notch count for a woman is zero and for a man is as much as he can get, thats my book, thats my way dont have to be no one else way but all I will say is I want to see this man suceed, stick it to the little slut, because this is type of shit that haunts you for years. trust me, and you can take comfort years down the line knwoing you acted like a man, weren't some cuck of the week and told her what the deal is and then carry whatever emotional baggage with you as you self iimprove.. I cant stress this enough, We have limited life force and focus, energy, dont dwell what is or isn't on some two bit slut, chances are and it is she dont on you a few weeks let alone years down the line. Hence said its DISGUSTING. Because it is, I'd call her out on it but ofcourse after a good fucking, then tell her off..done move...then again thats my way. dont have to be no ones way, I thin we all can agree, this is not new shit, we have all experiences similar shit more or less, She was a Slut at 19 and Shes Dripping from all her holes at 29 and in a year all 90% of her eggs will be dead, break a womans heart and she will remember you more than a mile of cock. Innocent..yea tell that to the barely legals I know. Pffft.. Lets just hope a year from no OP is the CHAD. Go well Brahs!
askmrcia 5y ago
Hate to be that guy, but put some paragraphs in your comment. That shit was a pain to read.
perdipp 5y ago
only if I could give you gold for this
IPunishIron 5y ago
much obliged kind sir, if you feel like giving me anything its one thing. PLEASE IMPROVE YOURSELF, FOCUS ON MONEY and YOUR BODY. Thats all/ And if anything I said helps a dime, use it, if not throw it out the window; Recognize, Reflect, Self Improve, Act..Dont be afraid to break hearts, scar or walk off.. Go well and wish me well!
GoldAri7 5y ago
Nice attitude, IPunishIron. I wish you all the best man
BeATrumpet 5y ago
I mean unless hes not fucking her which it sounds like he is, why does it matter?
IPunishIron 5y ago
it will take you much time to understand that young grasshopper, there are some guys that would say it does or it doesn't. one ought to come to their conclusion, my concluson would be self devaluation, no different than some hubbies are okay with it because "she loves me" and ultimately if its a plate and you are hanging around with her and taking her places so she can go fuck other guys and then she leaves her stuff with you, I mean whats the deal here...I mean what are you really providing or she trying to imply here? You gotta think beyond the black and white my man. there is physiology involved here and its utterly disrespectful and much so disgusting to hear and even be in such a position. Even if she is a plate, its clearly a bit more than just that here, and thats natural, hence the ump and dump, dont invest, So folks see you and they say what, 'oh here is that guy hanging around that pos slut Me and my buddies filled all the holes of and ha'... then ask and why is she telling him this, regardless true or false, the reason is the same when someone tells you something..remember that...be it a silly slut or whatever, actions are actions, you put them in their place and withdraw, you can be emotionally hurt with shit like this and well you only got so much life force and focus too, why waste it on such and such, cant ignore it for too long. So like I said, if its alright with you, fine, if it aint, then you gotta thinks over, ultimately it will be you who gets affected by actions as such and such by sluts. chose your on path brahs.. just advise.
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Good fucking wisdom is right. It's been 5 months with this girl and as you said there's more to it than some random plate because of the sheer amount of time spent together. It's weird because I would have never LTRd her for many reasons before this, but there is still this underlying very strong discomfort from it. But my initial and continued dejection of her behavior (and sense posting this I've come down hard on her - she basically wrote me off because I wasn't giving her a pass) was my innate awareness that I don't want to be involved with her as a friend because it would be so devaluating. But thanks again for advice. I think if anything this has been an awesome and much needed reality check for me.
BeATrumpet 5y ago
Good points man. Thank you
Starfuckingman 5y ago
No no, she doesn't hope you eventually commit nor did she gang bang 3 guys to slow game you haha. Fella.
[deleted] 5y ago
So what’s your point? You didn’t want a relationship with her and wouldn’t commit. So she is free to do what she wants as are you.
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Of course she can do whatever she wants, as do I. My point is even a harmless looking girl can have a foursome with three other dudes on a whim. I'm not slut shaming but pointing to an example where in blue pill community, some guys hold girls on a pedestal and would never imagine how promiscuous they are. Like countless examples on here of guys who know girls who will hop around fucking three different guys over a course of night at separate times. Happens more often than not, your plate you just dropped off and walking to her apartment is texting some dude to come over and fuck her.
Morphs_ 5y ago
While true, I find going to a festival with a plate/FwB and then her gangbanging other guys a bit over the top. It's clear she prefers new dick over OP dick. How would she react if OP had a threesome with two girls?
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Lets have op test it and report back with data.
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She just loves dick and meeting new people/doing new things, and I'm guessing with her looks they were probably stallions. She got really defensive when I just plainly expressed an opinion that I was shocked and thought it was pretty crazy and sort of trashy (the third guy pushed it over for me, and after spending all day with her and ya just goes and gets gang banged at a hotel -just weird). I asked her what her reaction would be if if it was flipped and had sex with three girls. She didn't have an answer for that.
geo_gan 5y ago
No, her answer was "ha!, zero chance of that happening" but she didn't want to hurt your feelings by saying it out loud...
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IPunishIron 5y ago
Dont pay attention to her problems, she chose to have them, and you undervalue yourself a lot, go self improve your body for a few years. You ll be banging 10's younger than her. become the stalions who fuck her and forger her, not the lover she clearly aint worth more. Why do you even ask her what her reaction would be, she aint your wive or girl friend, just some random slut you got to know. you sound invested from reading up on your posts buddy, dont get me wrong. But you ought to rub it in her face, give her a fareewll fuck beforehand though, and tell her to f off. done. Tell her its disgusting and so is she, and thats her worth, a piece of shit. you no deep down inside thats the deal. I mean here you are thinking and asking a bunch of guys here what the deal is, come one my man you know better, 'leave them better or as you found them" s a law I never apply, thats personal. if it was me, it wouldn't gone that far, you learn your lesson one and you learn it good. you invested in a slut knowingly, she likes dick, good give her dick, tell her I am not your BF, you are a slut, what do you want me to do about it ya cum dispenser or something along those lines? end of that. Dont think much of it. But You do what you like, remember WHAT YOU LIKE.
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Great points. I don't think I wanna deal with the drama of telling her how it is, even though I would love to do that. I don't care enough haha. And well other posts were about another plate haha. I've had a bad run lately and not reaching what my potential mate could be.
IPunishIron 5y ago
you have my support brother, be a tank, they are replaceable, your life force energy is not. give her one, it will bother you longer you hold it, i have done similar things, girls tell me who and how many they fuck, I get my deed done, might keep em around a bit if I can or want, but always creep it in, "well you chose that or you know what you are what do you want me to do about it? I dont want to care, I am not your BF" why even hang out with her, investment my friend, we men love they dont. dont invest more, let it out of your heart you will thank me later, shes cucking you SHE IS deliberately LOWERING your value, even being around her.
PS: Get your diet in check and do weight lifting for a few years, having a 6 pack abs and a v taper helps a LOT putting women in place. Remember YOU are the TANK. You push ahead my man.Give her one, tell her to f off. done..
IPunishIron 5y ago
"So she is free to do what she wants as are you. "
Well yes and no, I mean thats a cuck thing to even say. giving women allowance to be whores. would you or any guy want to commit to this babe? No.. shes just a slut nearing her wall first and far most. And if this fellow aint sticking it in and giving her the pinch aka rubbing it (her worth) in her face for what she is..and ends up you know affected we ought to tell him to take initiative and not say shit like ah its okay.. This is why I dont come to this sub any more...its full of blue pill coping shit. no offense to you bud but think it over.
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OP already told her he didn’t want to commit, before this happened. So no relationship, no commitment, they are both free to do as the want.
IPunishIron 5y ago
Well, then why is he invested. why were they dating. See that kinda wording is just on surface, you can tell OP is affected.
and there is no question of commitment, do you want to commit to this/ or suppose me, or OP or some other guy do? No.
and if you think women are free to do what they want, well thats your deal, i my book they aren't without being called out of their shenigans, I have my own way, which takes some bits from TRP. But yea.. The guy sounds invested in the wrong sheela, sheelas fucked bunch of guys while they went out, now we are trying to justify it oh no commitment so the sheela can go fuck three guys and you know, you still wana hang out with her or anything.
what I am getting to it not right or wrong, what I am getting to is this is a cuck thing to do if hes not made it clear and just brushes it off, call her out, make clear what the deal is, her problems aren't OP's problems, she ought to know where she stands other wise its just SELF DEVALUATION in progress with an already undervalued cumslut. IMHO. But OP can do what he likes, I rather be one of the 3 guys who took turns on this cumslut and forgot her wiping their dicks off on her face, than be OP who knows this dame, and I hope thats true for all other guys.
[deleted] 5y ago
Na, that changed my perspective, you have good points. It's a grey area since we're just FWB.
EqualResponsibility 5y ago
There is nothing grey about FWB. When she told you what happened your only response should have been “so what. I’ll call you later.”
EqualResponsibility 5y ago
EXACTLY. this is some childish shit here. He brags about how hot she is. She’s hitting the wall. Wanting to settle down. And how he just won’t commit to her. THEN he decides to write a book on how she’s a slut for having sex with others? This is quite silly and beyond blue pill.
If he OP agreed to a LTR with her and this happened the post would have more weight. As it stands this is a guy who spent the night crying about his girl getting railed by three guys. Not to mention, women LIE. Chances are she did get drunk and maybe something happened with one guy. Maybe not. She wanted the OP to be upset and jealous.
Based on the tone of this post I’d say they are still together and he even apologized to her. Now they’re “committed” to each other.
IPunishIron 5y ago
Well to his credit we have all been there in a way, as I said, this affects a man no matter how he or anyone puts it, and among the best ways to deal with it (there are a few and these are just few that make it the complete package), is for said man to get the message out of his heart, be it talk to his close bud, reflect and heck even write a short book if you want to call it that, it is to self assess internally and then reflect upon it, 'why". Thats what he has done here and I am glad he has else. Another is doing something about it, which he has and ofcourse letting the sheela know which he may or may not do. But sometimes guys get unsure and they need stuff like this, guys like us to remind them. you know? The gray area he mentions has feelings, and thats okay, but deal is she is a worthless piece of shit, brainwashed, allowed into hypergamy just as the last dozen woman, facts are just that, and the biggest fact being OP has / had invested, more or less; but we have all been there. I can say I can relate, not like this sure but lets say having meet some Girl you like or to find out shes just a Slut who wont care and you wont hear from her lets say months/years down the line, as if nothing ever happened between you two and it meant nothing, and all the talk she made is worth no more than the shaft going till the entrance of her crevix, thats what shes good for! Amazing ain't it? Its Disgusting and you realize that and wish you never even knew such a person because they would care less, horrible but true! But that is another fact and thats what it is. And best thing you can do is well, rub it in and care even lesser yourself. These two things are most important, recognizing the issue, addressing the issue & damage control to ones own life force & emotions(put it out as it is, raw) and then better yourself.
OP has taken the first step and began recognizing, one can be both stoic or egotistic and know ther emotions and feelings and being realistic about it. Now you are right on the money when you say it "could be" a major shit test. But thats that well wishing, Dont we wish it was? But it likely isn't? I have had chicks txting their boyfriends while they are naked in my back seat! I mean boom. So who cares if it is or if it isn't. The worse thing we can do is well not just picking on the fellow but to actually say hey its okay cause you are FWB or vice versa. Nothing is Okay in this story, Not him hanging out with some sheela whos nearing post wall and been with bunch of guys no matter how hot she is, this is her worth, its not Okay to Tell him its okay for him to go out with her and taking care of her backpack and feel alright while shes bangged some random 3 guys, this pos. hell no, and sure as hell aint okay to just ignore it like some cuck, not okay hearing her 'issues' or sluttery and not being disgusted the least if not putting her in her place, as if she didn't enjoy it or wanted it. Shes gone out with him talking to some guys, why are they even dating or hanging out.. See its a Grey Area but he still needs to reflect on reality else he will get played into strings like a puppet by her, as hes already been. Think about it, its the ultimate bluepill disgusting trap this guys fallen into. FWB should be 'Hey yea you wana fuck come over else see ya later sweetie". Nothing else. But what he has done here is the RIGHT step, question, recogonize, be open to other perspectives and then act upon it, because like it or not its fucking disgusting and devaluation of OP as a Male, Human Being to be even seen hanging with this cum dispenser like hes her BF or Hubby or the beta orbiter, not saying this but THATS THE FRAME she has slowly spelled him into. Be Aware Brahs..The Slut is strong with these neo ones that are between the ages of 18 - 30 now. USE Dispose, Dont carry your heart in your sleeve, i kno you want it to be, i wish it was too but it cant. So leave heart aside, dont give up on it but fucking dont get dragged into this Frame to give a shit and invest as much that this chick uses you as a door mat as I said to OP. Establish what it is, as you and we all have, Recognize her value, ingrain it within (should had) and then rub it in her and make clear she wont ever mean anything more and why that is, (eg. you a piece of shit slut and disgusting) dont be afraid to use these words, practice infront of a mirror make it a joke. because you know you want to, you might as well, you will feel better, then move on and make better choices, she wont hesitate to write you off with the next 3 cocks, and you might as well.
Let any emotion be put a side, recognize, act upon, give her one, say what needs to be said, then at the right time apply your emotions like a snake applies its venom, you are on control and you do how and what you want to do, give her a scar if shes given you one, its called shock therapy, and then next. and use the emotions later as fuel and be logical and be judgemental. Be the TANK, Decimate this nonsense. Good Speed to all Brah's.
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Maybe 5-10 years ago I would've caved but I held my ground. You guys changed my perspective. She wrote me off because I wouldn't "support her through a tough time". And ya it did affect me. We're pretty good friends and have spent a lot of time together so it was fucking disturbing hearing about it. Trashy shit.
EqualResponsibility 5y ago
That is painful man. I still think she did it to hurt you. I’ve seen that frequently. Where they’ll do something intentionally to inflict pain. I still subscribe to the idea there’s a possibility it didn’t actually happen.
Hang in there and be careful who you get attached to.
atticusfinch1973 5y ago
You say she’s a 9 but the fact she went to a random hotel room and got fucked by three guys she doesn’t know (likely unprotected) means she’s nothing close to that. And it’s likely not the first time she’s done something like that.
I’d be pretty grossed out and wouldn’t be able to fuck her again after hearing that.
[deleted] 5y ago
Lol if she's still DTF, why would you mind? She's in love with sportsfucking.
Wait, /u/thecothership, were you getting emotionally invested in a girl? Shame on you, mate.
[deleted] 5y ago
Na. That what some of you guys got wrong. I let her do her own thing when we're out. Some might call that cucking but I do that with all my plates. I don't give af and it annoys the shit out of them. She was bugging me at that point of the night anyway and was trying to talk up another girl
Cagalhoto2002 5y ago
With such a dynamic, you should put her to work picking up bitches and getting coke for you. She might still be a valuable resource if you know how to fully embrace the redpill and take advantage of the situation.
[deleted] 5y ago
Funny you say that. I had her bumming cigs for me all weekend and she scored coke for us the Friday night by doing the same shit. And pretty sure the girl I was taking to she opened first earlier in night and us three got shots together. Idk though, as time goes on I'm wanting to give her less and less of chance of ever seeing me again
[deleted] 5y ago
That happens, bruv. But this is a prime example of "it's just your turn". Cheers.
Indubitably_Confused 5y ago
Donate the plate to a Greek wedding. You know they smash those. ;D
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EqualResponsibility 5y ago
Wait.. she wanted a commitment from you, you said no, so now she’s a slut for sleeping around? Don’t turn this sub into a circle jerk. Get over yourself and stop crying.
[deleted] 5y ago
Was I crying at any point? And I didn't call her a slut but now other replies have me thinking differently.
NastyThrowawayAcc 5y ago
No, she isn't a slut for sleeping around with others, she is a slut for fucking 3 random guys while blackout drunk and snorting coke on random dicks while she was supposed to be with op.
He basically got cucked
and not only didn't next her, he even became her emotional tampon and agreed to go again with her. But there's more, he ditched sex with her which is the only thing they got in common
OP you learned gaming but not having self esteem and abundance mentality.
[deleted] 5y ago
Yeah that's a clear as it gets. I did go with her to another show, not the festival, because she won free tickets, VIP and it was sold out. I was cold the whole night and she said "did you only come because I already invited you?" I said "ya and its a good show". She teared up blah blah blah. She sent me a text after we parted ways and wrote me off for good, she says. I held my ground and she's hamstering now sending me paragraphs of text. But I wouldn't have been as hard on her if I didn't get all this good feedback
eaazzy_13 5y ago
Good on you buddy. That’s what this sub is for, sharing knowledge with fellow men and using the insight we gain to better ourselves.
Now, I agree with everyone on else saying you should ditch this hoe. That’s some nasty shit. You definitely were too attached and that’s never good. Buuuttt you have now realized your mistake, and have fixed the problem. There’s no point in being hard on you over it anymore.
Good for you, you did the right thing coming here for advice. I hope you learned your lesson and become a better man for it. And I hope you enjoyed your turn with that pussy while it lasted. Never stop soaking up knowledge, and good luck to you.
Big_Daddy_PDX 5y ago
What part of “it’s your turn” did you not understand? You still have a ways to go before you learn how to pick a decent girl. Designing around w/ sluts and being surprised when they’re tucked by someone else is pretty surprising. Wake up.
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The incident as a whole looked trashy and ya I'm bothered by it because of that. I think posting this was my way of digesting it. We were pretty good friends. And it's her age, man. Thats shit you're supposed to get out of your system by at least end of college
Austint053 5y ago
Insightful post! Always wear a condom man, you don't know where those dicks were prior to the other night.
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curiouswanderer2 5y ago
What shits me is when women really are raped and how this sort of thing trivializes that sort of rape. Like walking on the street and being abducted and raped in a van. That is what real rape is.
ex_addict_bro 5y ago
Love women for what they are not for what they “should” be
Have your own standards, be it high, low, it’s your life
Most guys berating you forgot that trp is amoral. You had your fun time with her, good for you. Will you want more? It’s your life.
One of girls that came to my place a few times was pregnant, it was probably her husband’s. I had some jealousy or some regrets a time or two but emotions pass. “For gods sake you’re EC at TRP why don’t you have some standards?!” Well, is the next girl I meet not going to be a woman? On the other hand, I do have better prospects so I don’t know if I’m going to meet her in the future. Let’s not sweat too much over some thot.
It’s not “if” with women, it’s rather “when” and “will I know something is off”. As long as you insist on monogamy.
Monogamy in my books is dead. You’re dating a party girl. Maybe she really is hb9, why not. Some of the bitches find it amusing to tell a guy about her past experiences and to see how he reacts.