Reading this post has made me angry. I want to stop unplugging but can't help it. Fuck!

If you've ever watched Orange is the New Black.. there is a token character named Pornstache. The other men on the show are extreme opposites, and get taken advantage of. This guy is a complete, disgusting douche. But fans of the show absolutely love him and if you see the actor in interviews the women go nuts.

I'll admit I'm a total sucker for the bad boy who's secretly good thing. Like not so much in real life, but for movies/tv shows/books? If there's a character that's kind of an asshole, but then has a redemption arc I'm hooked on him.

Dark Triad at its core

Yeah women are a sucker for a "bad boy they can fix" the thing is you can never let them "fix you" because if you do, the tingles turn off.

Incorporate the dark triad into your social game and business management: http://illimitablemen.com/power

One woman on that thread says she "loves dads" and immediately hamstered in "I'm not a homewrecker, though"... makes me sick.

This is why money has nothing to do with short term attraction.

There are two factors going on here:

1. The AWALT factor: Women want strong, confident, masculine leaders. Not men who will defer to them, not little fags prancing around in their "This is what a feminist looks like" T-shirts. This is not something you should bash women for.

2. The damaged women factor. Look where you got that thread from. Some of the more fucked up shit there is a product of who those women are, the way they were raised, the life choices they've made, etc. They're broken, that's all. NAWALT.

I am incredibly attracted to guys with cerebral palsy.

Generally speaking, I'm pretty vanilla. But damn, the thought of getting all up on some guy's cock when he can't really control his hands well enough to effectively pleasure himself just gets me going.

and

Men in women's panties

Actually fuck that, I'm not ashamed, it's hot as shit

in otherwords, women want to be submissive.

izzardsl 190 Points 22:08:28, 19 December

I'm kind of needy I guess, because if a guy is genuinely nice to me, I'll immediately get a crush on him. It's really that easy.

Ill_Made_Knight 93 Points 00:17:51, 20 December

You sound like you'd be every neckbeards dream girl, although often their kindness isn't so genuine

izzardsl 58 Points 00:19:55, 20 December

Ah, that was why I specifically clarified genuine in my comment! I know a Nice Guy when I see one, and that shit does not fly.

"Their kindness isn't so genuine." Pretty sure this means they aren't attractive enough to do something nice without appearing needy.

Wow. What's that, you want to fuck a dirty scumbag? I have an EXCITING new offer!

My fiance is a good guy good guy and I really love him, our life together is great ...but then I talk to the dirty long haired pot smoking mechanics at work and it makes me miss fucking up my life by dating them. Stupid.

Who wants to bet she did sexual things with guys when she was "fucking up her life" but she'll never, ever do it with her fiancee?

is it just me or is the term "dark triad" lame as fuck?

wheres that thread for a year ago about a glitch in the matrix where askwomen had a thread exactly like this one?

So I know the permanently friend-zoned self-pitying "I'm a nice guy thus I finish last fuck me right?" stereotype is thickly prominent here (reddit), and that in most cases it's a flawed and hypocritical mentality, but the type of attraction you describe feeling does make it seem a bit reasonable. I understand stupid uncontrollable desire, and don't hold it against anyone, but it would still get under my skin if my SO was turned on by qualities opposite of those I pride myself on, or if I found my sex appeal lacking for lack of those qualities.

C'mon guys, who put this up ?

Its obvious most women don't want to appear shallow but the truth is we are just animals at the end of the day. Subconscious desires. Women being attracted to strong protective 'manly' figures and men generally being attracted to a shy 'feminine' women. It's just in our nature.

Rejections are not always rejections. They are frequently tests for fitness, which includes courage, creativity, presistance and sometimes loyalty. The story cited and related comments illustrate not (always) the "WTF?" aspect of (mating) women, but rather the testing that they unconsciously do. They even hamster by coming up with excuses for their behavior, 'I could never date a ginger.' Had the ginger (or other rejected men) demonstrated more "fitness" by pushing through the test with creativity, humor, etc. - rather than melting away - it's probable that they would have had more success (which is one thing that concerns me when this sub gets on a "Nexting" craze as The Response to ... too many things.

It's important to discern "attracted to" from "want for a BF/STR" or even "want to date." For a PUA and a ONS a woman's "attracted to" is good enough. In a relationship lasting much longer than ~12 weeks the man is going to have to display, and will be tested for, other qualities the woman is looking for - IF she is thinking of/ready to settle down.

Further, a woman's "attraction" interest is dynamic. A woman coming off a ~12 week carousel ride on a dark horse is probably going to be looking initially for a horse of a slighty lighter color.

Again, a fundamental redpill truth. Don't pay attention to her and she'll worship the ground you walk on, if you're hot.

If she had a shit relationship with her dad. You could also just not date girls that have daddy issues.

It doesn't seem any different from men wanting to marry a saintly girl next door type, but still fantasising about having it off with the office slut.

Feminism is a political movement. It's an important movement from an economics perspective - it helps unlock greater value by bringing women into the workplace.

The trouble starts when you start applying that movement to sex and love and attraction, all of which are driven by primal instincts.

You can be as much of a feminist as you want, climb the corporate ladder yadda yadda, but you will always be attracted to the guys who've always attracted women.

The hardcore feminists will resist their urges and stick to their principles. The 'shallow' feminists will talk a big game then fuck the same guys they supposedly hate.

I have zero respect for the latter. You gotta stick by your principles

http://www.fdrpodcasts.com/#/2867/sexual-economics-wednesday-call-in-show-december-17th-2014

2:19:20 onwards. Questions to ask a woman to see whether she is human or reptillian.

What's your relationship with your dad?

How have men contributed to the world?

What man do you respect and admire?

What do men bring to relationships?

I like a guy who is below my league, maybe a chubby guy or a slim build with little muscle. I like of he's shy and inexperienced when it comes to sex. I don't know why but I want him to feel lucky that I'm with him, that might sound conceded, however it also makes him less likely to be unfaithful.

Wow. This was upvoted quite a bit. If I were a little bit more beta, I would be ashamed of my visceral response to it, i.e. a strong desire to break something.

Also: Learn the difference between "conceded" and "conceited." And, Google the term "comma splice," you illiterate fucking cunt.

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This is incredibly true. I've been a total beta male my whole life until recently. The more authoritative I am with a woman the more she responds positively. They always say they want a "nice" guy, but they only seem to respond to "bad" guys.

Great thread.. Kinda says different women like different things.. Some do like dark triad.. Some like inexperienced nerdy types.. Some women like men in nice shoes some women like scruffy stinky types..

What I took from it was that I could pick women no matter what I'm wearing, I could pick up wearing even if I didn't bother washing.. Different women like different things just like different men get horny for different things.. It's inspiring.. Some will some won't

I have seen in the media examples of women in power, who choose to be with abusive men. They will proudly show and tell of the 'abuse' they have suffered then take the guy back.

This is their choice and they are aware that the man has a history of abuse.

Perhaps you can remember a female friend who does the same or are aware of a celebrity in your country who has done this on several occasions.

I'm not really surprised, I bet they are into rape play as as well. This is like hearing an anti-gay republican congressman propositioned a guy in the bathroom.

This thread has it all, gentlemen. Read all of it. No matter how much women squawk about equal rights and feminism, they don't want equality because they are not biologically capable of it. They want to be led and they want to obey.

Ever wonder why people hate this sub? It's because the culture here doesn't seem to recognize that people (in general) have facets of themselves other than their sexual attraction. Of course some women find what your describing sexually attractive but it isn't what anyone would want in a LTR. Being turned on by a manipulative sociopath is not the same thing as wanting to be in a relationship with one.

Or to put it another way: people are attracted to personas, but any sane person would want their partner to be a good and well rounded person. Or at least people worthy of a good relationship are.

No surprises here. Men in power is the greatest aphrodisiac to women.

There's a really fascinating exchange after "aren't completely available".

I'm attracted to men who aren't completely available. I figure it's to continually relive my relationship with my dad.

That's so sad...I hope one day you find one that will make himself available to you.

I get bored with men who are completely available. It's like the whole thing is too easy.

A great flash of self-awareness from one side, and a complete abandonment of agency on the other. There's just this blind assumption that if must be a problem with the guys if you're unhappy. Here we got lucky enough to see someone come back with "No, I'm into them cause they cause problems."

These are the same women who will come here and say how disgusted they are with us, then probably cheat on their boyfriend with one of us a week later.

This askwomen topic is amazing because it confirms 100% everything we say here straight from the horse's mouth.

Women get very wet for:

Masculine strong men. Every other reply was talking about guys in manly occupations, athletes, or just tall guys in general.

Bad boys. Overwhelming love for the dark triads.

Beta bucks/alpha fucks dynamic. Most of the women showed contempt for beta traits.

So predictable really...

Women love guys who are dominant and control them.

The woman, by her stand, will use anything she has (seduction, sex, "love", etc.) to try to control him.

She only needs to use her charm and body on someone who is valuable and not easily controllable. That's why she needs to use sex, otherwise (if the man is easily controllable) she wouldn't need to use it; and she knows she cannot just use sex to satisfy her sex-desires (she must be careful into using it for satisfaction) because that would mean she will decrease the power of the weapon (sex).

That's also why AF/BB. If she only wants to satisfy her sex-desire why use the weapon to not get the best satisfaction? Of course she will use her precious weapon only for the best, otherwise (if she doesn't use it for "the best available") she is taking the risk to decrease the actual power of the weapon.

To be fair, a lot of people fantasize about things that they would never do in real life.

Well well well, look what we have here. Another piping hot heap of AWALT

I love the idea of being cheated on; I believe that makes me a "cuckquean." But it's a complicated kink because while I love the thought of my SO fucking someone else, the actual action would kill me.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here; none of the normal girls I know actually go on reddit

Not surprised to see how many girls are into junkie types. I had a friend who was a total junkie, unemployed, played guitar in band... you wouldn't believe the amount of pussy he got. Hot rich girls would buy him dope so he would pay attention to them.

Many of the comments say they didn't accept advances because of self esteem issues. It's a reoccurring and it annoys me, are they just hamstering?

The sheer level of willful self-delusion women possess and use in creating these untrue notions about themselves should be more than enough reason for any guy to question the veracity of everything you've ever been told about women.

In order to convince so many others of a completely false set of ideas you either have to be a psychopath or holily believe in them yourself. Since psychopaths are malicious, deliberate opportunists, and women are opportunists merely by virtue of evolutionary hardwiring, it must be the latter, as we undoubtedly all know by know. However, that doesn't mean female opportunism doesn't have striking similarities to psychopathy - it surely does.

That's why redpillers are often referred to as psychopaths on reddit; people are shocked by the non-gynocentric view of women which, without all the intentional misapprehension, reveals female nature to consist mostly of biological opportunism.

"I get bored with men who are completely available. It's like the whole thing is too easy."

This.

This one actually disgusted me. Hypocrite much? Oh wait, just the usual female double-standard.

I'm really ashamed of the fact that I am not attracted to someone with a physical disability. It's so hypocritical of me. I'm a recent amputee and I want a man who can look past my physical appearance but I am not willing to do the same thing.

Fellow amputee here. Same feelings.

Lot of gold-digger stuff as well.

Money. Not like over-the-top wealth, but I like a dude with a solid retirement plan and an oh-shit fund that could keep him comfortable for 6 months.

and,

My sexual attraction to men is strongly dictated by how expensive and flashy their shoes are. I'm sort of ashamed.

This just in from our gender war correspondent: women, generally speaking, love tall, athletic, confident, powerful, dominant men. More succinctly, masculine men. Who would've thought?

I'm never surprised by women anymore. Used to be a mystery, but once you start to figure out the patterns in their words & behavior, then it starts to fall into place.

Also, Reddit's ASK-So-&-So posts (subject: women) usually never cease to entertain with their complete & utter WTF.

Case in point - http://redditlog.com/snapshots/1399393

This comment perfectly responds to the rest of the comments there... and this one.

I'll admit I'm a total sucker for the bad boy who's secretly good thing.

This female rationalization of DT men is also known as Deep Down He Loves Me™.

"I'm really ashamed of the fact that I am not attracted to someone with a physical disability. It's so hypocritical of me. I'm a recent amputee and I want a man who can look past my physical appearance but I am not willing to do the same thing."

Funny thing is that most men don't find you attractive either, shame not included.

"Not really ashamed, but I don't discuss it too much? I can't find guys who aren't at least 5'9 or above attractive. I dated a guy who was about my height, and he was really nice and smart and engaging and had a good face, but I couldn't get over the height thing.

fwiw, I'm 5'4."

If you're a female under 5'7" and you hate short guys, tie your tubes and stop contributing to the 'problem' with your so- called inferior genes.

THIS !!! It should go o the side bar, under : Evidence supporting Red Pill Theory.

Not really ashamed, but I don't discuss it too much? I can't find guys who aren't at least 5'9 or above attractive. I dated a guy who was about my height, and he was really nice and smart and engaging and had a good face, but I couldn't get over the height thing.

fwiw, I'm 5'4.

nice, smart, engaging, still left him just because he didn't have one physical feature.

I'm not sure I've ever seen such a high concentration of daddy issues outside the covers of playboy.

Seriously though, you hit the nail on the head about it being about power and emotional distance.

The honesty in that thread is actually admirable. Not only do they admit their true motivations, they admit that they're immoral and dishonorable in many cases.

That said, one useful observation: not all these men are leaders, not all these men are massively successful, not all of them are socially powerful. The common thread is actually in what they are NOT: followers.

The same woman could get turned on the same way by the "hot for teacher" professor and the "pot smoking mechanics" on the same day. The key thing is that these are people who don't follow the herd and aren't invested in the reactions that others have to their actions. They form their own opinions and go their own way. Sometimes they lead others, sometimes they only lead themselves.

The more and more I observe people, the more I see TRP isn't the bunch of sexist pigs everyone says they are but actually totally right about this shit.

No one likes when people talk the truth. Using the advice and suggested readings I have bettered myself not just with women but with my confidence.. I ended up getting a promotion by simply following the advice of standing up straight, a wider gait, talking more loudly, etc... Being more assertive in front of women that I like just to get them more attracted to me.. That kind of thing is awesome. Love you guys<3 just wanted to say that.

I'm sick of seeing this shit, and seeing the same bitches say they want nice guys.

Not a good woman was seen that day.