Here are some of the things going on in my life that have caused too much stress for me:
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My mom is v sick and she is also v old school so has lot of inertia for medicines etc which requires me having to convince her 5x more.
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I run a startup since 3 years, it hasn’t been doing v well. Considering shutting it down.
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My wife got v sick last two weeks because we had to go through abortion (unplanned)
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I have gained about 18kgs in last 3 years, that isn’t helping either
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my dad seems to be too egoistic when interacting with me, intentionally doing the opposite & triggering me
- I’ve been landlocked in a city with over 20 million people, pollution and no breathing space. I’m frustrated.
I need some ideas for what can help feel happier & get better.
Most_Fly_1587 4d ago Stickied
I’m seriously considering:
mattyanon Admin 3d ago
1 - good plan 2 - great plan 3 - maybe...... seriously...... how much help are you actually being?
Most_Fly_1587 3h ago
Update:
Not feeling happier yet but more relieved.
Also, restarted smoking cigarettes on Tuesday (quit in 2019) -- it seemed to have a calming effect too. Stopped it again yesterday after i finished all 15 of them that i first purchased. Was planning to buy some today, but resisted. I can feel withdrawal in terms of craving to eating more sugar.
How do you all handle cravings (sugar/cigarette/cannabis)? I've seen that when I leave one, I end up feeling terrible until I latch onto another one.. sometimes its junk food, sometimes its cannabis..
I need to feel happy... how?
Musicgoon78 3 3d ago
I'm going to be honest as a late 40's guy. I don't believe in the stoicism theory. Feelings are like taking a shit, you gotta let them out or you're gonna get real sick. Stoicism to me is one big fat untenable cope.
You are human. It's like saying "just don't feel pain" you're not trained in this sort of thing and you can't just snap your fingers and become hardened.
Now let me tell you what works better than drugs, or escapism, or even therapy: go lift heavy at the gym. Wear yourself out and you'll feel immediate results to your mindset. As you get physically stronger, your emotions will follow suit.
Set aside time to fully feel your emotions so that you can move on. Let them out. Don't fight them. Anger and frustration turned inward leads to depression.
Take care of yourself first. You don't need to light yourself on fire to keep others warm. If you aren't overflowing with good vibes, you don't have much to give. Remember that.
BeeSerious9 3d ago
IDK is this stoicism to take control of the shit bothering your head?
Example, just a couple of days ago I have this girl checking her mobile altho it is clear we will fuck I get little pissy. Right away I have this thought pattern mobile = disrespect and I get that tiny bit of pissy - it might go unnoticed or not considering women are good at noticing. Then I was pissed at myself that I was too reactionary and followed pattern instead of thinking.
Few days passed I meet her again she checks mobile, walks out, says nothing. Later on keeps checking on mobile. But this time I say 'Look I understand you might have important stuff to take care of, take 15 minutes to tend to it, while I read the e-book in the meantime.' Then I have just started reading ignoring her.
Stoicism or keeping frame helped me not to cloud my judgment while choosing the best solution. Yes I was still bit pissed buuuut I was also happy this shit worked, so overall I have achieved positive balance in emotion bank.
It might not be not to experience anything negative but for positive to win or to believe it will.
MrSupreme 3d ago
Stoicism is not a theory, it is a philosophy and a perspective (among other things) on concious power over self over external factors. And it has an esoteric side too like other ancient schools of thought like Platonism (which inspired neoplatonism).So there's more than just being a zen guy to it, which is more like its first steps.
I wouldn't say it is about becoming a rock that don't feel anything, if you got enough emotional control to make your emotions work for your then you're already being stoic, just concious and mature enough to understand that emotions have a role in us, and once under control they can be a valuable tool. The greeks called this "Thumos".
You can't just lash out mindlessly with your vivid anger,indignation and other stuff hoping for the best, you've got to control it and use it with a purpose.
Musicgoon78 3 3d ago
I agree with the Buddhist type of stoicism. Where it's simply acceptance of the way things are.
Where I start having problems is in the manosphere space. The idea here is that you become sort of this Chad robot. It's part of the alpha larping.
So here's where I would suggest some cognitive behavior therapy techniques. Acknowledge your feelings as valid. Have your feelings. This doesn't mean go out and break shit or lash out, it means it's ok to be angry or sad. Then take a moment. Every setback or problem has a different viewpoint. You're going to shuffle through this viewpoints like cue cards. This is for you to change the way you look at a problem. You can look at it more positively or productively.
The problem with most untrained individuals is they don't know how to be stoic. It's not just being alpha and stifling emotions, it's about a point of view.
So I agree with you. I don't agree with most of the uncalibrated guys here.
mattyanon Admin 3d ago
That is extremely stressful
Seriously consider shutting it down. The worst startups aren't the failures, they're the ones that limp along for too long, going nowhere and soaking up your time. If it fails you can go on to one that succeeds.
Be honest about its future. Ignore the past.
urgh that sucks
You ABSOULUTELY have to fix this shit. This is putting a strain on your joints and a strain on your marriage, and this is 100% in your control.
Ignore him more
Move?
No-Stress-Cat 4d ago
“You have power over your mind — not outside events. Realize this and you will find strength.” - Some Stoic Guy
MrSupreme 4d ago
Stoicism is a great idea in such times. What I like to do when things aren't going straight is to treasure those "me" times. Even half an hour by myself can be treasured and time dilation can be experienced if you're taking that time to simmer down, unwind, pray, meditate and sort things out yourself.And another thing I like to do is put it all in perspective:
I'd like to give you a simple example of a thought process, because the theory just sounds too easy sometimes:
-Dad is being a bitch to me intentionally: "I'm not just not gonna let his bs affect me, i'm gonna let him know: "Hey dad, i know you're trying to piss me off but I'm not gonna listen to you, do what you want old man", and just like with women, don't act butthurt, don't feel butthurt and don't show your hurt butt.
It's just to get you an idea because I'd like my advice to be more than just " take it easy, this too shall pass", something more micro than macro.
First-light 1 3d ago
Control what you can control. Let the rest go mentally. I know its hard to do. No one ever gets it all right but its a gaol and it lets you forgive yourself for not trying to fix what you can't control, thus giving you more energy for what you can.
You can lose the weight and get fit. Its very hard to do when stressed but it is something you can do and no one else is needed to let you do it.
Your mother's health is going to be a concern and you will try to help her but also remember she is an adult and in charge of her decisions and once you have told her you think she is wrong, you can leave it a few weeks before doing so again. It can even help when someone is not pushing back because they feel they have to against pressure.
Long term you can move out of the city.
You are your own man. respect you father because he is your father but in the end you have to take your own path not the one he thinks is right as it is your responsibility.
Be kind to yourself. Men end up carrying whole families. Some allowance has to be made for this. Your wife is in a bad place not but things should improve a little over the next months.