I was shopping at the mall and a cute girl entered my space where I was looking at stuff so I struck up a conversation w her. I complimented her on her dress and we just made some small talk abt where she got it from, if she was dressed up for some event and what she was shopping for. She eventually brought up that she had a boyfriend. The thing that kind of made me think my approach was off was cause she said that “dating apps are terrible so I try to be polite to anyone that shoots their shot”.
Idk it just made me feel like I gave lonely incel vibes or some shit like that What do you guys think?
throwaway415 3d ago
if your game is strong it doesnt even matter if she has a boyfriend. she'll still let you smash
you're on the right track, but you still have much more to learn, young padawan
JPCantell 5d ago
Read Day Bang by Roosh V. You shouldn’t compliment her appearance. I.e, Don’t make it immediately obvious you’re interested in her sexually. Rather you’re a cool dude who’s just striking up an convo.
Ask about an item she has, conversate about that and subtly bring up displays of your own high value/cool life in the conversation. Even when you get the number, you shouldn’t make it obvious you’re interested in banging her. Dangle the carrot and let her wonder if you really want her.
Follow this same method until you fuck.
joyboy 4d ago
Women’s egos are so high nowadays that they think if your talking to them in public your trying to bang them 99/100 times so it doesn’t really matter either way
JPCantell 2d ago
Unless you somehow have a mind reading ability you have no idea what’s going through women’s heads, especially when they’re being competently gamed by a guy with a baseline level of SMV, ie that’s fuckable.
joyboy 1d ago
How do you determine if you reach the baseline SMV though
Lone_Ranger 3 4d ago
nope. she thinks the truth - that you are a number hunter that she can place in the simp zone.
Lone_Ranger 3 1w ago
you need to stop being so invested in every approach. We have already explained this to you.
If it helps, stop thinking of an approach as 'an approach'. Just be friendly all the time to everyone. Strike up convos with everyone, on the reg, as part of your normal day.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1w ago
Newbs don't understand that approaches need to be like breathing.
On a good night out I approach a dozen women without giving a shit.
A lot say no and a lot become prospects.
It's like breathing at this point.
Newbs treat every approach like the only bottle of water in the Sahara for the next 50 miles and often no matter how well the approach is going most newbs never try to drink from it
Lone_Ranger 3 1w ago
the other thing that newbs do is number hunting as a goal. Never closing.
Generally, the motto that they need to adopt is 'always be closing'.
joyboy 4d ago
I mean going for the number is seen as safer and less desperate. I’m not too sure if trying to bang them right then and there would work out especially if your a beginner like me
Lone_Ranger 3 4d ago
"seen as safer"
you got that bit right. That was the only bit of your reply that you got right.
Safe = boring = friendzone at best. Number hunters have their role in chicks life - your role is to join her pantry of orbiters and make her phone go bing, which will make her feel validated. Remember - attention from simpers is wonderful.
As soon as you ask for the number, you tell her who are you - which is a non-fucker that wants to do some digital simping duties.
Meanwhile, she will kneel down round the back of the club and let chad splash elaborate signatures of semen all over her face.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1w ago
Yes. Abc
Although they think the number is the best close they can do and they stay there hoping she'll fuck him through 5G network
ncstaterepted 1w ago
Approach more than 1, friend. I have milfs and college girls following me through the store when I shop, staring at me at stop lights. Much of the time if I ever talk to these girls they become embarrassed or alarmed. 30% of them are into it and u have to find them
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2w ago
Doesn't really strike me as an attempt to answer your own question.
Also, was this your only approach since the FR a month ago? If so, why?
joyboy 2w ago
Yes. Because I keep pussying out. One of the girls working at a beauty store helped me while I was shopping for cologne, being friendly and whatnot (I did feel like she was being a little flirty at some point but didn’t know for sure). The interaction was over after she rang me up and I told her to have a nice day, but then she stopped me as I was leaving and kept the convo going, asking abt my bike. She asked like twice how it felt to ride one (I guess she wanted me to offer her to go for a ride sometime). Just couldn’t bring myself to do it
Musicgoon78 2 2w ago
You put in no effort you get no results. Simple as that. Sack up and keep going.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2w ago
I said my piece. It wasn't nice
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2w ago
I get rejected by 20 women a week what the fuck is your excuse? And I'm a god damn red pill admin
Stop being a fucking bitch and accept rejection, it's a fact of life
How many times have we told you hitting on girls who are working (their fucking livelihood) are just trying to get you through so.they can get to the next customer
You keep picking stationary trapped women who can't escape your approaches like a bitch. No wonder you are approaching women who can't fucking leave their post when you approach
Stop being such a fucking coward it's beyond obvious why you are targeting such women
Let me get this fucking straight, you picked a sitting fucking duck and even though she could have ended the interaction at any point she wanted she gave you an opening and you couldn't even be assed to try to invite her anyway?
You couldn't stomach the possibility of rejection so you didn't even try?
Fuck you. No seriously fuck you. Stop wasting our time
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2w ago
I'm only being harsh because you need to hear it
You are betraying yourself and then coming here in your own pity
Meanwhile other guys on here are slugging through rejections because it's a numbers game
Jesus man
@joyboy
Play the game or stop playing it
joyboy 2w ago
No that was a different girl. The one in the post wasn’t a worker it was just a girl shopping. And I don’t typically hit on workers I’m not stupid, that’s why I sidnt do anything but looking back it seems like she was the one making moves on me
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1w ago
Then your FRs need to be better if it's that confusing
Either way if you do not attempt to close you are wasting everyone's time here
Bozza 2 2w ago
Or she had a boyfriend and was just being polite. Point is she politely turned you down and the reasons are somewhat irrelevant, onto the next.
Just keep practicing, day in day out and you will slowly improve. You probably are awkward because you're not used to doing it, and as you practice you'll get better.
Once you have some success it really snowballs from there because you start hitting the positive feedback loops.