I recently read Orion's book and highlighted dozens of passages. Rarely have I encountered so much brilliance and realism in a single book. What was your impression?
Unfortunately, his predictions for the future are not optimistic. Women will continue to fuck the top 20 percent of men and refuse to settle for less. The rest will remain single and have to fend for themselves. What is your impression?
Hugo_The_Great 8mo ago
I'd say only the top 5 and maybe the top 10% of men is getting consistent sex from multiple ladies.
In regard to having to fend for themselves, women are ok playing independent when the economy is good. At the moment, the cost of living is rising so fast that 'independent' will soon mean living under a bridge or with female roommates.
Not all women will get a Chad, they know this. Most are OK with a solid beta.
Lionsmane8 8mo ago
Did not read the book.
But there is one thing I have to say about "dystopian predictions". They all assume that societies evolve in a straight line. Rather they move in cycles.
Right now the West is at the bottom of a major civilizational cycle. It is going to get much worse as globabl relevance has effectively shifted East.
Short of a major world war, a global market correction is underway as we speak. We are at the height of hoeflation.
Change location.
Lone_Ranger 2 8mo ago
its not the top 20%
It's more like the top 2%
Vermillion-Rx Admin 8mo ago
I've thought this as well. Top 20% is 1/5 guys. Are one out of five guys really that hot of shit to hypergamy? Fuck no.
Lone_Ranger 2 8mo ago
Yeah, the 20% is bs. I've been saying this for years. People are just throwing out 20% because that fits with the pareto effect.
The pareto effect is just an estimate, it doesn't apply to every situation - how could it?
If you think about with any degree of logic, and if you have been paying attention to what women are actually saying, they are saying that the top 20% of men are "average", and they don't want that, they want above average (because they somehow deserve that, even though they themselves are average.)
So the average women these days wants a guy over 6"2, with abs, earns $150k or more, is good looking, big cock, strong jaw, loves pets, is blue pilled.
You looking at less than 2% of the population right there. It's quite a bit less than 2%
Vermillion-Rx Admin 8mo ago
Or the men I've seen women fawn over... Yeah, it's a very slim subset of men. Hardly top 1%
Even less than that
Lone_Ranger 2 8mo ago
Yep.
I was reading about this way before I found RP. I wish I could find the academic article that I read about 15 years ago - about the existence of 'super shaggers'.
They basically found out that there was a small % of men that were doing most of the shagging. The top 1% were basically accounting for about 80% of the shagging. The shagging is very unequally distributed.
The result of this is that it was common for women at age 30 to have had about 15 sexual partners. Quite an even distribution.
For men it was very different.
There was a top section of 'super shaggers' that had n counts over 160, and many were over 300.
And then there were a surprising number of men at 4 and below. A shocking number of male virgins at 30.
Basically, women don't want average men. They want the super shaggers. And the super-shaggers are giving them what they want - tingles, drama and being treated like worthless sluts.
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 8mo ago
What little of him I've seen on YouTube, he just regurgitates shit Rollo, Roissy, Dalrock, Whisper, Archwinger, Athol Kay, etc etc said years ago.
I have yet to see him say anything original.
Glad he's helping more men unplug, which is a net positive, but I'm not all that impressed.
lambOfGod 8mo ago
I hate fucking statistics. Autists like gay phrases like "top 20% of XYZ".
You take two weeks off and go everyday outside and approach as many girls as you can in a day, just for fun. I guarantee you that at least you will get some dates, the likely outcome would be fucking, if you are not a sperg.
Stop listening to red pill podcast shit content. Rollo is old and done. His books should be read once and thrown out on the fucking window, so that you can go and apply and live your god damn life.
If I'd be worried about any "dystopian" prediction that I heard in the last 15 years, motherfucker I would be a black pill cave dweller by now.
Each year has gotten better for me because I TOOK ACTION. These problems that these grifters talk about do not exist in my world, because I choose not to give them importance. They are out of my frame, therefore they are inexistent.