Another girl off Tinder, not really a huge conversation but it’s the full one. I opened with that line cause she has a bunch of pictures in museums and her spotify anthem was some classical music so it was just a line to have some banter and try transitioning into a meetup
I guess this time I didn’t build enough investment so she just ghosted ? Also I probably should’ve gone for the date instead of trying to go directly over
mattyanon Admin 1w ago
urgh.
Don't talk about being a genius while violating all rules of spelling and grammar, it doesn't look good.
"When can I pick you up" is lame, don't ask questions and don't put her in that much control. Tell her straight when you're picking her up.
I don't think this one was ever yours to lose...... I think she was just playing along. In which case going for the meetup is a great way to call her bluff and get you off the texting-to-nowhere game.
Testme 1w ago
Only a total slut is going to come to your place on a first date. Do you really want to be having sex with a girl who goes over to guys' places before she has even met them??? Jesus.
Obviously she ghosted you. You treated her like she was a fucking prostitute or something.
First-light 1w ago
I have no experience of this sort of thing but I don't think you did too badly to start. I think you were a bit quick and thirsty with going in for suddenly "when can I pick you up"
"Straight to my place to bang (in my car so you can't even escape if you want to because you will have no car)" does not involve any relaxation or courting. Most women want to know you are OK before they go to yours to bang. You got her to agree to the idea, I would have then suggested drinks or coffee, activity (art gallery/ museum?) or meal then go back to yours to "play chess" She has already greed to the idea, so you don't have to jump right to it.
The chess idea worked in as much as you got her to agree to it but it would not have been my first choice -its a nerd game that demands great concentration. No one ever got relaxed playing chess. Women like to be relaxed as part of courtship. They can't get aroused when up tight. (That whole sympathetic versus parasympathetic thing).
Very smooth, very high value guys may be able to get away with "straight to my place to bang" but even they probably offer to cook, get take out, buy fake champagne or something. But the hook would need to be already sunk deep for you to pull this off and in this case the fish has only just seen the bait.
Its not my field of experience but it came over a bit fast and aggressive. The genius thing ended up putting her on the spot with a challenge more than complimenting her and I am not sure she realised you said it because of her interest in high art. It might just have been your regular opening line to back to yours to "play chess" Just ease her into feeling comfortable with you.
Anyway, well done with making the efforts. They will eventually pay off.
Lone_Ranger 1 1w ago
Another field report of orbiting via text message.
When will you learn?
You are determined to exist in the digital world, the social media world (yes, OLD has become social media - its where trash women go to get validation and collect orbiters and digital simps).
You could do this for the next 20 years, and you'd get the same results.
Remember - your role in the digital sphere is to make her phone go bing and deliver the dopamine hit. Nothing more.
If you want some pussy, put your phone away. Go out into the world. Talk to women (DON'T ASK FOR THEIR NUMBERS!!!!!)
Talk to them. Talk to everyone. Develop social skills. Learn how to read signals. Learn to spot time wasters. Learn to spot women that are willing to 'down date' .... yeah, that would be you.
Learn to exist in the real world.
financehardo420 1w ago
Acela and op you guys are both fuckin retarded. Ranger is giving u both solid advice. You boys reek of incel vibes and single digit body counts… but ya there’s no way any of us here actually fuck… we should all be asking you fucksticks for advice on how to get laid instead.
Tinder was lit back when it first started circa 2014ish and began to decline sharply by 2018. If you actually fuck off online dating apps you’d know that tinder has for the most part died a long time ago and most of the chicks migrated to apps like hinge/etc.
In MAJOR cities (nyc/chi/miami/la) it CAN sometimes work… if you’re an absolute dawg and you have a good profile. In college towns and bumfuck nowhere towns and everything else inbetween you’re probably going to have a pretty disappointing experience.
You need to develop RIZZ. and that can only be learned with lots and lots of practice going out in the wild to eat what you kill. Tinder can be a useful tool to supplement your roster and fill spots but you shouldn’t exclusively rely on tinder. Hit on 100 hot chicks I guarantee at least 1 or 2 will eventually fuck w you and maybe even let you put your peepee in her mouth (assuming you’re not a total fuckin sperg).
As long as you’re too pussy to even try and approach girls in real life you’re gonna continue to fumble every bag you touch while guys like me will be nutting all over them. If you’re a total noob at getting bitches I would recommend starting in the appropriate venue: aka the bars.
I don’t even like to use tinder anymore but when I did I’d swipe while I take my morning shit - that’s how irrelevant tinder is to me.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 5d ago
Definitely not. I just ban everyone that fucks. Can't make our incel forum look bad ya know
Acela_nextel 1w ago
Tinder is the where most people meet these days broski, get with the times
Lone_Ranger 1 1w ago
Tinder is where trash meets trash. Wake up and smell the coffee bro.
Acela_nextel 1w ago
Cope harder
Typo-MAGAshiv 1 1w ago
How the fuck would you know, virgin boy?
(hookers do not count)
Acela_nextel 1w ago
Bro your the king of cope lol how's that beer gut coming along?
Typo-MAGAshiv 1 1w ago
I get laid.
You don't.
joyboy 1w ago
Dude exactly. Idk what these boomers are talking about most girls are on Tinder nowadays and that's where they meet guys. Cold approach and all that is pretty much a dead art
Acela_nextel 1w ago
They're probably too ugly to pull on tinder hence the redpill cope
joyboy 1w ago
I feel like I'm too fucken ugly too cause why else do all these bitches ghost me. If I was some chad I would be their top option but instead I have to be some jester
Acela_nextel 1w ago
Yeah unfortunately tinder is a male model's playground.
Redpillpusher 1w ago
This is verbatim what I told him in his last report, that OLD is a pointless arena, yet he appears content in being stuck in orbit
Maturin_nj 1w ago
Listen to this. This is spot on. Let me add that night game is where you should concentrate. Girls are in clubs. Learn to approach. It gets easier. The nuances. How to engage in conversation with real live women. Not this bs.
Lone_Ranger 1 1w ago
Yes... and don't be a number hunter. When you are chatting to a girl, resist the urge end your suffering (the pain of face to face IRL contact) and simply ask for her number. If she wants to give you her number tell her no - tell her:
"I'm not really into all the texting and dm'ing stuff, I don't have social media. I just like to keep it real, do fun things in the real world, with real people."
She will have never met anyone like you. You now sound like you are fun, you go places, and do things. Rather than simply digitally simp online all day.
She'll realise that you are the important guy, the one that means biz. She already has 10 numbers from digital simps on her phone that text her all day already - she will realise that you are not beta, so you might be chad.
Remember this: Chads do not spend their days texting women. Chads don't simp. Chads smash.
Beta's think that if they simp just a bit harder, they can be the number 1 simp in her orbiter pantry and she will reward this behaviour with sex. It never happens.
She smashes the chad, and she keeps the betas for orbiting duties only.
I know this because I have played both roles. And I have had vastly different results. Same guy, different roles, different results.
joyboy 1w ago
I don’t understand, what am I supposed to do when approaching irl? Go for same day pulls only? I’m gonna have to get the phone number at some point so I can set up logistics right?
financehardo420 1w ago
You (after a bit of general conversation and vibing): hey so what else do you have going on tn? me and the guys are ab to go back for afters you and your friends should come for sure!
Or “hey wanna meet my dog” or “hey wanna see my fuckin fish bowl”
It really doesn’t matter too much what you say if you’ve built enough attraction. She will be down to go back to the spot and then you smash. Shits not rocket science brother
joyboy 1w ago
I don't have my own place though
financehardo420 1w ago
After hs unless if you’re an absolute giga chad it’s going to be really hard for you to get laid while living w your parents. Before you even think ab pussy your first order of business should be getting enough income to move out
Lone_Ranger 1 1w ago
Why are you going to have to set up logistics via text message?
Look man, I can only help you so far. You seem determined to live our your life as a number hunter so that you can pivot to digital simp ASAP and then wonder why they are flaking on you.
Go and talk to girls IRL. Don't ask for their number. learn to have a convo. Learn to read signals. Stop trying to live your life by SMS.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1w ago
Newbies with zero exp or any success should not be going for insta lays. You newbs are shooting way too fucking high and then being shocked you got rejected without understanding advanced material
wegojim 1w ago
I think the whole chess thing and "you look like a genius" comes off as very transparent. She knows you're only saying any of this to facilitate sex and you don't care about chess or how smart she is. It's also funny you say that if she beats you in chess she's a genius, but you spell shit wrong and don't really come off as a smart person, which makes it even more apparent you're probably not really some chess chad. It's alright to open with this but I would transition off the chess shit quickly because it's obviously not genuine.
When she says "Imma be real with you idk how to play chess", I would have said, "That's ok, I'll have a few drinks before we play so it's fair ;)". From there just work out logistics of grabbing drinks somewhere close to you.
joyboy 1w ago
She’s not 21 though. I should’ve asked her to some board game cafe instead smh. I don’t even know what I’m doing, I was just going she would invite me over since I don’t even have my own place
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1w ago
Then why would you send it to begin with??? Newbs shoot not be spitballing shit they have zero ability to follow up on. Stick to basics you know.
Asking a woman to lead. Not having your own place. You seriously need to fix this two things
wegojim 1w ago
My friend I think you have a few things to work on before trying to pick up chicks on dating apps.
joyboy 1w ago
Yeah but tons of guys my age fuck off dating apps without having their own place?
wegojim 1w ago
Irrelevant, they would do better if they did have their own place. You're trying to achieve the absolute bare minimum to get some pussy. You don't necessarily need your own place but it helps. If you can't do that, get jacked, study game/sidebar, talk to girls in real life, etc. That's what I mean by "you have a few things to work on". You're fishing in a small ass, dirty pond with a stick and a string and then complaining that it's very difficult.
Maturin_nj 1w ago
I'm rooting for joy boy. He's out of his mind but has potential. I think hes overwhelmed by his sex drive which has control over him.I used to believe in free will but have changed course to at least partial determinism. OLD is for lazy guys who prefer shitty odds.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1w ago
I just use old as supplement and a lot of the times it gives me an SMV barometer.
I match with some incredibly cute non-bots and I know my OLD smv is lower than my IRL SMV and it's a good way of knowing what my IRL standing probably is in some way even if i never meet the chcik
OLD has gone downhill, less women are willing to meet even though I used to slay on it and my SMV has only gone up in pics. None the less it has value if you let it have value. I barely spend 30 seconds swiping a day
whytehorse2021 1w ago
As a general rule you should use texting for logistics only. You want to set up a face-to-face meeting in a safe, public place which doesn't cost a lot. I would've met up for coffee near a museum. If she's ugly, bounce, if hot invite her to the museum. I actually like museums so I would have a good time. Afterwards get a few drinks and then off to sex.