Don't leave a comment if you're just gonna say my FWB (who is my friend) is "just a hoe, a wet hole, nobody cares."
Background she grew up in a religious household (non-mormon) and told me of the time her Dad brought up polygamy in their marriage and it hurt her Mom and strained the family. Her ex-husband also cheated on her before he divorced her.
A few weeks ago FWB said she needed to talk. Thought it was gonna be "the talk" but it wasn't. She said I'm young and needed to say this so I don't accidentally hurt her. She said I may see sex differently, but to her it's special and won't be part of a "rotation." She said that while we're fucking, she wants to be exclusive (she's low body count). It could be broken off to see other girls.
Knowing those things, and out of respect I agreed. I don't wanna lie through this. I agreed knowing I have such logistical difficulty isolating girls for sex, and thinking I wouldn't get many more options. This was also just after I went on a high interest kiss close date with an hb6.
I don't know what's happened since January, but I'm feeling options. It's as if seeing my FWB helped me dial into an attractive sexual energy. I've learned so through her. My SMV could've gone up another half point by lifting (and possibly growing out my hair). It wasn't like this before.
I met this cute 18yo high schooler and briefly spoke to her about college apps and theatre. I picked up on small IOI's but thought she wasn't interested. When I saw her a couple days later, she nervously asked me for my #. Now she won't stop texting me, and I made it flirty. https://imgur.com/a/mbaPlmi She's gonna be DTF shortly (if she isn't already). Now she’s texting me sexual photos of her clothed with legs spread. She dtf.
FWB texted me this morning saying how she wants me pinning her down tonight. We're going to have more rough sex with me as her Dom. I believe our time spent together bantering, fucking, and building sexual tension has been making my overall energy a sexual one. Other girls feel it.
My choices:
1) Become a deceptive liar and fuck other girls while still seeing my FWB as a "stand in boyfriend." Knowing if she finds out I killed out friendship. Despite slim odds of getting caught, I don't wish to do this.
2) Break it off with FWB
3) Do nothing
4) ??????? - Change her mind somehow?????? Fuck her harder or something?
MyBoyJob 2w ago
She's attached. You can't change her mind. Your options are 1 or 2. Scenario 1 you keep fucking her and others until she finds out, after which she will hate you. Scenario 2 you end it and she hates you. This is from my experience.
Given what I gather from your posts, I would say you learned the lessons you needed to. Women want to get fucked. You can fuck them. They love fucking you. I would say........continue to enjoy her company, but call it off as soon as you fuck the better one, and the better one also wants to fuck you again.
imtranscending 2w ago
This is a really good answer.
I was curious about my capability to get women attached. Now I know they can get really attached. At first I infatuated, then that wore off as she grew more attached. I love her as my precious, but I can't promise her what she wants. It's honestly bitter-sweet. If only I were older and she was younger (she's a milf that's over 8 years older).
There's a third option. Let this run it's course, reality will settle for her. I'm meeting her mother-like figure tomorrow, I'm hoping the mom can help nudge her in the right direction and that this will minimize the pain for her.
These were big lessons, especially the latter.
Already have another chick that's lined up and begging to fuck. She's on hold atm because I'm not going to abruptly end this with my FWB. It's more complicated than what you read, and I have enough abundance to know I can get more options.
whytehorse2021 2w ago
I'm guessing from the comments that she's a single mom and divorced. It's rare for a man to file for divorce and is usually because of drugs, criminality, violence, or a combination thereof. So she's probably got some skeletons in her closet. So she needs to get you locked down and pussy-whipped before you find out who she really is.
I'd just go back to being friends and fuck other women. Give it time to find out who she really is.
imtranscending 2w ago
Husband is a dark triad piece of shit who divorced her because she didn't overcome her postpartum depression from having 2 still births, losing 2 babies. He also cheated on her before the divorce finalized.
Testme 2w ago
Dump the exclusive one. She is a divorcee--bad news. Also it sounds like you are having pretty beta interactions with her if she is talking to you like that. That is not the way submissive women talk.
financehardo420 2w ago
Ngl bro 1) her background is sus as fuck and 2) any chick that asks for exclusivity early on is a major red flag.
Cut her loose n keep baggin birdies don’t let her slow down your momentum
imtranscending 2w ago
It’s not black and white
pofkaf 2w ago
It's a simple question. Do you want to be exclusive with her? If yes, then communicate that to her and cut off sexual contact with other women. If no, communicate that to her and keep moving along with your life.
All plates break eventually. Your job is to keep them spinning as long as possible.
As a man, you are the gatekeeper of relationships. Wield that power wisely. Whenever you decide to commit, make sure your commitment means something.
imtranscending 2w ago
I don't. I thought I did when my brain was infatuated.
I know. Problem is we're going great. She's a hot hb7 with a fat ass, nice legs, killer waist to hip ratio, and a great face. Sex is fantastic, and we both get lots of it. I'm slowly getting more Dom and we're exploring fantasies together. She lives in her feminine energy and is very caring and supportive of me. There is no end in sight for this. She tries to conceal her attachment, but she has grown attached, and so have I.
I have over 170 posts on these forums. Some are askholes, but many are field reports. From trying to chat with girls through my cold approach journey of trying of hard earned dates and kiss closes. I've worked so hard for so long on this and myself. 170 posts with many many field reports documenting my journey from nothing. I couldn't understand this power of commitment that men wield, now I'm starting to feel it. @redpillschool the thrill of gaming new girls is a strong draw. I didn't realize how much I'd miss it.
I know. I know we're not committed, but I let myself take on that role of a "stand in boyfriend" to feel what it's like. I let the sexual exclusivity happen, I thought I'd like it. Although she isn't available all the time, we do get each other off even when her kid is asleep in the next room after lights out.
But I keep thinking about fucking other women. My FWB is on the voluptuous side, but I've also had desires to throw around and fuck smaller girls about 100lb. This new 18yo that's blowing up my phone is just that.
Things are objectively great, I love my FWB, but the problem is with me. I was hoping my urges would go away, but they haven't.
MrSupreme 2w ago
She just wants exclusivity early on, if you feel like having a LTR,with this girl, then go ahead cause that's what she's putting on the table (talk is cheap anyways). Whatever you do,and although red pill is amoral, I suggest you don't do the lying thing. It can backfire ,sure,and you leave behind yet another broken woman with trust issues. Plus it is a bunch of effort to be lying and hiding your actions all the time. You can sublimely let her know you are all about protection but are not ready to commit to a single girl.Or keep fucking her for a while, exclusively,Wich could make you finally trascend.
imtranscending 2w ago
Thought it was just sexual exclusivity. I feel like we're just going with the flow.
Many people misunderstand that phrase. Understanding sexual nature for what it is ammoral, but our actions that follow from understanding that do carry moral weight. Anyone who tells you otherwise is coping hard. If you have a girl that was about to cheat on her soft and weak bf with you, but you also had a crystal ball. The crystal ball showed that if you and only you fucked that hb7 the dude would kill himself. Would you not be at fault for his death? You would (have fault), and that counter example is one of many I can give which shows the gross misunderstanding. The concept that any action one does being morally excusable in light of red pill truth is incorrect.
I'm going to start changing the tune. I usually say her body is mine, but she for the first time said my dick is just for her. I like throwing in the protection aspects during sex, it makes it better. Trying to change this tune will be new.
MrSupreme 2w ago
Over analysis is common in you I think,you transcended too much.it doesn't have to be a Jedi Order Moral Code of Conduct discussion. If it's gonna be a pain in the ass to lie to her for whatever reason,and keeping that frame up then don't do it.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2w ago
Exclusive by default cause you weren't fucking other chicks. You shouldn't have agreed, she's in a meat market and can get new dick whenever she wants.
I don't understand why your choices are limited. Since you flubbed already it will be problematic to now change your mind on her. I would just fuck another chick when and if that happens and then tell her the truth and tell her it's okay if she doesn't want to continue
Don't go exclusive with women you don't want as a girlfriend at some point