I believe its the rational male that mentions a great point. Women had their trad roles as wives and work they had to do. Women were observed enjoying their efforts.

Man decided that since hard work keeps us from doing what we love, we projected that desire for freedom on ti Women. We did this by automating the work Women would do.

Now Women don't do shit and just expect shit. The men in their lives were also doing shit keep them and their wives happy.

I personally believe that if you don't want to do something, you say No. Be direct, be selfish, they can do it

Or you can flip back on them. "Babe grab me water". smacks ass "thanks grab me one too". Tried that once and they do that shit right away.

Matter of choice.

If all men would say today: 'Hey, no money for me, then you don't get: no dick nor protection nor attention'. You'd be swimming in pussy and money and would have life of leisure.

What we have is nature trying to balance.

Nature is not perfect. Homo sapiens killed many other species, it means the other species didn't go well with mother nature.

If you read Calhoun rat/mouse experiment you'll see eventually that we can become extinct without even firing one nuke.

want me to "work" for them

don't, be demanding and observe, the only limit you'll have to see the pattern, is sample number

You know, women do their best to betaify you in ltr so you stay theirs. Doing things is just another form of service, just like they expect you to look after their baby and them until they die.

It's just how people are raised these days. Girls learn at an early age to get men to do their work. Whether their dads, boyfriends or society. They can observe their moms, see it in cartoons, watch their classmate get a free icecream by being cute to the seller, it's everywhere.

I almost never do anything unless they've done or will do a lot for me recently. I see it as a fair trade, not something they can get for free for being a woman.

Compliance test.

If she ain't providing value to you, just don't reply. Say "can't I gotta do x that day. Ask someone else"

If you can afford it,get someone else to do it. Its on their DNA,you are supposed to provide safety and resources, they look pretty

Women are mostly sex objects to us, and occasionally (heh, rarely) add other value.

We are mostly utility objects to them. They will almost always try to neuter us, put us to work, and then lose attraction to us as we cave to them. Much of TRP & especially MRP is learning how to counter that loss of attraction.

Check out the book "Practical Female Psychology For The Practical Man" by Joseph South and David Franco.

Men and women have evolved to have a division of labour. Its just natural. Just as we feel more happy than we really should when we get our meals cooked and our clothes washed. Its not like we can't do these things ourselves but they make us happy.

Of greater relevance, it should also be noted that Courtship works according to Briffault's law. The woman receives benefit. Women need continual courting. They need continual benefit. Once things get past the benefit of tingles, they want to see something useful.

It's called gender roles. It has become less relevant over the years as life gets easier. There was some reality TV show where a couple made a homestead. They learned really fast that she couldn't lift a plow and he couldn't cook.

As for modern women using men for their own personal gain, that's just because guys are simps.