I was very isolated growing up, spending almost all my time playing video games. Over the past couple years I've built up confidence, physique, finances, etc and for the first time in my life am getting a lot of IOI. I have girls frequently smile at me, make excuses to talk to me, or position themselves near me in hopes I will open them. I usually will smile back. I've had a lot of them I believe the term is self reject due to me never making a move and they stop smiling at me.
The thing is I am sort of emotionally stunted from spending so much time alone, a lot of how I interact with other people is "acting". I've had girls highly charmed by me acting in a highly confident manner, but it was only over short interactions. I'm not too sure how to have a socially acceptable conversation that is also engaging and moving the conversation towards a close.
I was thinking of trying something along these lines when I get IOI or them positioning for me to open. All with supreme confidence 1) Hi how are you 2) good im glad to hear that 3) I saw you were checking me out, i get that a lot 4) wanted to give you the chance to shoot your shot 5) number close if she's not immediately free or insta sex date
What's the best way to phrase 5)? I want to keep my intense high confidence vibe up the whole time and get to sex ASAP and avoid having like a 30 min date where there's more room for me to make mistakes. Is it better to be more direct in 5) and tell her we're going to fuck or I need to give her plausible deniability somehow? A lot of the girls that have been giving me IOI are also staff so I don't want to ruin my reputation completely in the place.
If instead you go more indirect and invite them out for whatever, do you just make pleasant small talk for a couple mins and then go more direct again, what's the best way to go to their place or get them to come to you while giving them plausible deniability? I also live with parents so it would be better to try to go to their place.
AbusiveFather1 1mo ago
depends on the people there. in my experience, if you have a lot of liberals/soyboys at the place, they will start rumors about you and you will lose social proof. so a lot of girls won't even give you a chance to speak. if you take it slower and become "friends" with the girls first, like the soyboys are trying to, and given that you keep your mouth shut after you score with those girls, you have a higher chance of saving your reputation - but then, who has the time for this shit?
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
I don't know who downvoted you but this is correct
If you are shining through at your place you frequent and there are swaths of white knights that either see you succeed, know you score behind the scenes, or both, they will preemptively sully your name.
Now, normally this wouldn't matter because women don't respect soyboys anyway but the problem is when white knights rally and lie. They will often take your sexual successes and add the most unfavorable tinges of misrepresentation to it that make you sound worse than a guy who is just sexually successful.
That's where the problems lie. And they will also rally around women who are unhappy that they slept with you or women who no longer have a use for you so they will just start saying you were an asshole because victim points have more value than he's an ex points.
White knights on their own are easy to smack down but they often act as useful mouthpieces and adverts for disgruntled ex plates, ex ONS etc. women don't give a fuck about white knights opinion but they care about the sisterhoods opinion and they'll amplify any out of context exchange they can get there hands on to carry another woman's message even further for her
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Place you don't frequent = fine
Place you seem the same people at least once or twice a week = don't do unless you want to pidgeonhole yourself to trashy sluts
Direct is not good unless it's about their personality or style etc. if you are going to a place where you have a reputation
"You're hot" is not good. "You look fun/ hey i like that you look like a librarian that gets into trouble" etc is fine. Because it's not sexual or about their cuteness etc. it's not indirect either. These are all direct statements, just statements that lack intent
No one is going to go up to someone and say "omg that guy said I look like a librarian that gets into trouble, he's TRYING TO FUCK ME, THAT PLAYER!"
But they will be like "that guy said I was cute" and then her new friends will say "omg he said that to me too"
whytehorse2021 1mo ago
I've never used anything other than direct game. There is one caveat though: you have to understand the application of mutual vs individual knowledge. Most guys can't do direct game because of this. It's too long to go into here so I'll drop this video on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-son3EJTrU