During college I gave up on women. I was skinny-fat, boring, not confident, etc. I was high value and I knew it. During med school, I did all of the self-improvement stuff. Worked out, gained 40lbs of muscle, got a six pack. Learned to play the guitar, got into boxing, got into woodworking. I got my MD, currently working as a physician. Grew into my face, got a great jawline. I'm told by coworkers that I give off an air of confidence bordering on arrogance and that I have all of the outward signs of being an alpha male. Despite all of this, despite now being a 666 man, I still can't get women on Tinder to hook up with me. I go to the gym and see men shorter, uglier, less successful than me with these baddies but I'm the one who is alone at the end of the day. I know I have no game. My question is, why are women not flocking to me despite the narrative which claims that women want the tall, handsome, successful guys?
Carbocation
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Lionsmane8 1y ago
You answered your own question. But to give you a more detailed answer:
you did well for your self, you shouldn't think that all your hard work was for naught. You are still ahead of many guys.
the advantages you acquired are nothing but advantages. Meaning they improve your playing experience but do not guarantee outcomes.
you toed the narrative. The narrative is designed to optimize female outcomes. Meaning: increase the supply of provider men to be exploited.
You shouldn't have neglected game. The risk is thst you are now prime target for women to exploit. The moment you fall for hottie hat will know exactly how to levearge her charms and you're done for.
Stay safe, the game is ruthless.
Carbocation 1y ago
Yea i'm def aware that some women will see me as a walking atm due to my career. That's kind of why I'm trying to get more experience so I can protect myself better
coolsocks00 1 1y ago
Improve your game and you're set. It's a shame you've neglected it until now but you've done well for yourself.
There's core reading material in the sidebar. When you're done with that come back
Carbocation 1y ago
Yea I have a lot of reading to do. Thanks for the advice, my man
redhawkes 2 1y ago
You fell for the incel trap. It started to gain traction when their sub got banned and they leaked into TRP/asktrp around 2017. Just be Chad bro, bitches gonna fall on your dick..
Self improvement for the sake of self improvement is masturbation. Have goals.
Game being Charisma+Confidence
Start reading the Roissy Reader, many things are already explained in the sidebar. Read FR's in the main sub to see the application of the tenets. Also Book Of Pook.
Don't turn yourself into mental masturbator and askhole. Do the job. No one is gonna give you the life you want.
coolsocks00 1 1y ago
This. That CH reading list is great. It's pretty much like the book, a sorted collection of the top blog posts.
redhawkes 2 1y ago
Yea, it's a compilation of the most important posts. I forgot to mention YaReally, he had very insightful comments on CH's blog.
https://web.archive.org/web/20180225155007/http://yareallyarchive.com/
whytehorse2021 1y ago
There was an infographic put out by a 666 man who used tinder and wasted a ton of money, got very few dates, and wasted a lot of time. He tracked everything: catfishes, number of dates, money spent, lays, etc. Once you realize that tinder would go out of business if it worked as advertised, you then realize why you're not having any success. Go one step further and realize the parent company of tinder also owns the bulk of the dating sites and it becomes a little clearer.
Instead, just cheat to win. Use tinder as a marketing funnel to bring them over to instagram. There you can provide social proof, pre-selection, and sell them on a lifestyle. It can be real or imagined. Rent a ferrari and take photos. Charter a yacht if you want. Everyone else is doing it. That's online dating in 2023 in a nut shell. Or do like the other people suggest and run game in person.
Carbocation 1y ago
Yea after ~10 months of using tinder, I've gotten 11 lays which doesn't sound to bad except they are all girls I consider to be way below my league. Like solid 6's for the most part. I do think I need to start running game in person, since it seems to be easier to pull dimes that way
Bulba 1y ago
Answer:
Carbocation 1y ago
USA, college town in the south ~100k people. Hispanic. 6'0", 176lbs, ~12% BF
Bulba 1y ago
This pretty much answers your question:
You are not white and you have put yourself in a location where not being white is a significant disadvantage to your social status. No matter how hard you work on yourself, most girls in your current location will reject you because you are Hispanic.
You also cannot expect Tinder to work properly in a college town with 100k people. Most girls are getting laid with the same chads, the social hierarchy in college towns is quite rigid and it is very hard to move up or down.
Just look at the numbers. This is the Hispanic population for a few college towns in the south:
Athens, Georgia : 11%
Chapel Hill, North Carolina : 7%
Auburn, Alabama : 3%
You'll find a percentage in the same range for your own town. Now compare this with other places where you could actually be living:
Miami: 72%
Los Angeles: 48%
Austin: 32%
New York: 30%
So right now you have basically two options:
1) Work even harder on your looks, money, status and game and hope that something different will happen ( which is what everyone else in this thread seems to be suggesting you to do ).
2) Move your ass to a real city.
I would argue that option 2) is much easier than option 1).
mattyanon Admin 1y ago
Forget online dating, it sucks ass.
Because when you are these things you have to go out and get them. Women want to see you having fun, leading your friends, being the life and soul of the party (as well as all the other things). Also, you may have to go talk to them.
Forget OLD, it's full of timewasters and there is a 9:1 male to female ration.
benzino 1y ago
I think 90% of the hot chicks on OLD are fake/burner profiles. The 10% that are real get pumped with constant messages and validation from thirsty simps and most of the time they also don't look nearly as good as their pictures.
Use it as one source of leads for you. Swipe right on girls that spend some time writing their bio - they're usually interesting in person. The ones with only pics and lazy bios are usually time wasters
craftsmanmindset 1y ago
A few questions
In order to develop game, you have to talk to more women. Also, you might have to accept that you have autism.
Intrepid_Place53900 1y ago
Tinder is for the fun bad boys. You are the guy for marrying (provider). Tinder is not for you
Carbocation 1y ago
How do I become the bad boy? I have no intention of being a provider
Intrepid_Place53900 1y ago
Tinder girls don't want to know what you do for a living, they want to know what you do for (FUN).
It's about Looks to attract Then it's about game to close
Carbocation 1y ago
Fair point. I'm just not fun. I'm not into partying or anything like that. Doesn't help that I'm in a college town where everyone just likes to go out. And youre right about looks. I have no trouble getting matches but I can't convert them to dates
whytehorse2021 1y ago
Get a Harley and tats or whatever. Look up the archetypes. You're Captain America but you want to be Iron Man(Tony Stark). The anti-hero.
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Carbocation 1y ago
I do get some but I would like to improve my numbers
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