When girls ask you for favors, how do you react. One one hand, of course I'd want to help with homework or something, its an excuse to be together. On the other hand I dont want to be just the guy that they go to when they want something. How should I handle this?
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lookinginyourblinds 11y ago
I know this is late but when a girl asks me to hold something I always respond with this:
I clasp my hands together, smirk, and say "Sorry my hands are full"
Pushnikov 11y ago
I can't believe noone has said this.
Negotiate.
Always negotiate.
That's all you need to remember. Know what you want. Ask for something, even if tiny in return. Never be "Free". It's fine to be cheap. They will do it for you. It builds a sense that you have SMV, and your friends will introduce you like you have some value.
If you want a blowjob, ask for it. If they slap you, laugh at it and look them in the eyes. Then just shrug, "Guess you don't get help with your homework." If they come back with a counter offer, consider it.
Etc.
RPstudent 11y ago
Depends on the favor requested, depends on the woman in question and your relationship to her.
One general principle applies. Do not regard favor requests from women the same when you consider favor requests from your friends (and for the record, this assumes that you accept men and women cannot be friends - if you don't accept that, then add male before friends).
ChaoticParadox 11y ago
Create a fair transaction. Expect the favor to be repaid in a way that satisfies your need to feel respected and not used. Always be thinking, "What's in it for me?" There's no reason you shouldn't have this mindset when women so often operate on that logic by default.
IdleGod 11y ago
"I can't hold your purse. That guy over there has been giving me hungry eyes all night, and I don't wanna give him any ideas about which way I swing".
likechoklit4choklit 11y ago
Quick! you don't have much time. Run to an online forum and ask a bunch of other guys who view women as something alien and special, but are really jaded that they were taught that in the first place and now blame all women for it.
Get their advice so you can turn this favor that she is asking into a chance to rank her against other women. After appraising your own rank, use these manly man and selfishbitch ranking systems to triangulate whether or not you want to fuck them (you probably do) and then treat them like a puzzle, not another human being who has complicated desires, stressors, goals, and history. Now, to know what exactly to do, use an ad hoc algorithm gleaned by distilling all the female stereotypes from TV and what is remembered of late-highschool/early-college to find what the statistically most likely thing to do to get yourself laid is. If she is hot she will likely be thought of as a selfish sexual welfare queen costing by on her good looks, so you will have to be a manly manman to have a chance, otherwise she is friendzoning you. If she's not hot, then she's a feminist and will only destroy you and the whole world with her opinions. If she is a 6,7,8, on some subjective hotness scale (let's just assume 60-80% similar to looking like your mom), you should just judge if they are asking you because they want something for no effort, or just your advice, or your phone number or if they have a different motive and decide if you want to do it. (PRO TIP: using judgement also works on all the hotness numbers.)
TLDR: You should show her how manly you are and start banging guys. She'll know right away to stop asking for favors but know that you're an ALPHA DAWWWG!
drrtyfrrnr 11y ago
you obviously are on yoar period
rebuildingMyself 11y ago
Best troll response ever.
[deleted] 11y ago
Man, if you're in high school, you're overthinking this shit. For all you know she has a crush on you or some dumb shit and she wants an excuse to hang out around you.
Don't be used, but at the same time, don't have these kneejerk reaction to things. If you are like "hey lets go chill at this party" and she says "Can you come give me a ride, I know it's a little out of the way," it is completely ok to just say "K."
You don't always need a witty "badass" response. How do you get her to not think of you as the favor-friend? Easy, just think about what she could do for you (little easy shit things like making you some coffee or whatever are fine.) As long as she is willing to do thiings for you, then you can do things for her too, and she will still have that chemistry.
For example, I would teach this girl in college physics, and in return she would get me into the special athletes gym at our school with all the fancy equipment. Which gave us the excuse to workout together. Etc. In this kind of situation, you still hold the cards. If you are in highschool/college, this is enough. You don't have to overkill with the David D lines.
TLDR: You should be confident that she couldn't take advantage of you if she tried. Therefore, there is no need for a defense mechanism like witty lines. Trust yourself to be able to identify when she is testing to see if you are friendboy or actually interested in getting to know you. If the latter, then there's no issue, you still have the dominant frame.
Meterus 11y ago
"Ass, gas, or grass. Nobody rides for free!"
mrust 11y ago
Default response (credit David D'Angelo) "I could, but I won't."
Always think about whether you would do the favor for a guy friend. She wants you to buy her a drink, hold her purse, drive her somewhere, then go with the above or the ridiculous ones ITT which are even better.
If she's creating an opportunity to be with you (like homework) make her do something for you first: "I could, but you have to feed me first" or "only if you dress sexy"
Key takeaway: Do not supplicate. When it comes to women, you are better off being an asshole than a dependable friend.
[deleted] 11y ago
I semi-answered this in this thread
The question was:
Gurezak likes the ridiculous which are good responses:
I personally like a reframe with teasing:
Danny also has some good tips on holding and setting boundaries:
http://dannyfrom504.com/2013/10/24/nuking-a-hungry-hamster/
Like other people said, don't be afraid to say "no" or "sorry I'm busy" if you can't come up with anything off hand.
spatz2011 11y ago
How about you be honest? "I can't hold that bag because other dudebros wil think I'm the beta and then you'll never sleep with me.'
riskrowe 11y ago
That's not why I don't want to hold it, I respect myself enough that I don't just give away my time and energy for free. Holding a girl's bag without asking for anything in return is the male equivalent of sluttiness.
spatz2011 11y ago
You're how old? 20, 21? Life gets pretty lonely at 60 when all you can muster up is some 20 year old who god forbid won't require you to hold something for 10 minutes. Then again, I'm sure outside of your red pill and PUA friends you act like a normal human being.
riskrowe 11y ago
I'm not saying I wouldn't ever hold it, I'm just saying I don't want to. I get nothing out of it, and I'd like her to realise that. Even please and thank you is a nice start. If she just expects me to do what I'm told without getting anything in return then she has a toxic exploitative mindset. Can you imagine if I just expected her to wash my dirty laundry when she came over? She'd be outraged!
If you think demanding a little respect in a relationship means you'll be single at 60 then you are destined to be forever taken advantage of.
[deleted] 11y ago
This is how you look like an idiot tool. Seriously. If she asks you to hold her bag just hold it if you can and don't if you can't. Holding someone's bag is not a big deal, and you are a Schmuck if you think someone's using you when they ask you to hold their stuff from time to time.
If she asks you to do major favors like get her a job, do her homework, etc then she's using you. And instead of being a retard and going "Hurr durr I won't give you a job unless you let me hold your boobs ;)" just say "if you want a job at my place then apply for it and I'll take your application into consideration." (FYI considering an application is much different from saying "ill get you a job") One makes you sound like a moron and the other makes you sound assertive
drrtyfrrnr 11y ago
Girls themselves have said that they lose attraction for a guy who holds their stuff or buys them shit, it is automatic for them and they can't help it. First they will ask you and then when you refuse, they will whine and if you acquiesce, they will lose attraction. I always pick the lesser evil.
Still wanna hold that bag?
[deleted] 11y ago
If a girl whines at you and is a bitch to you for holding her stuff then the logical response is to cut contact with her. Not be all "I'm so cool and alpha XD" and refuse to do such minuscule favors for every girl ever.
Seriously if anything that minuscule favor is a filter. If you're reasonably polite to someone and they become a rude maniac back then you drop them -- effectively filtering them from your life.
EDIT: and if a girl goes "OMG I am so turned off because this guy held my purse" then she isn't worth your time.
EDIT II: just don't hold things awkwardly like you have no idea what to do with it. If you go "o-okay" it's way different from being like "mkay be quick"
drrtyfrrnr 11y ago
You don't understand how things work, do you?
You can either be all huffy puffy "cut contact with her" for every girl or you can learn how to deal with it.
Are you the kid who always wanted to take his ball and go home or are you the kid everyone wanted to play with?
[deleted] 11y ago
You make your bed and then you sleep in it. If you make an effort to be with mean girls then don't complain about how they are so mean to you.
drrtyfrrnr 11y ago
The hottest girls are mean. I'll take some meanness in exchange for not having to bone a fatty.
(For others reading this, the above is not strictly true - many fat feminists are mean, and many cute girls have scintillating personalities, plus they're only mean until you fuck them good)
[deleted] 11y ago
I am sorry your only options are fat or bitchy girls.
aaron_the_just 11y ago
Hot girls who aren't married or in stable, long term relationships generally are pretty bitchy.
Nice shaming there, by the way.
[deleted] 11y ago
There are many sweet hot girls who are single. Stop meeting women in night clubs or bars.
Stayinghereforreal 11y ago
Depends on the gal. Depends on the favor. Depends on my mood and time availability.
Use your judgment. But don't do much for gals who are not close friends. And you will not have more than 1-2 gals over your life who are close friends, BTW.
MegMartinson 11y ago
My cousin (M50-ish) got divorced a few years ago. She got the house and all the furnishings. She got alimony of more than half his net income for 5 years. She got half the cash, half the investments, half the retirement account. Since the kids were grown, at least she didn't get child support.
Cousin took the red pill. These days he says, "If I'm not fucking her, I don't do favors for women. If she drops to her knees and gives me a blowjob on the spot, I may consider it." -- He's become a real hard-ass about it. ... He has 20-somethings crawling all over him.
dregofsociety 11y ago
"What are you gonna do for me?"
bsutansalt 11y ago
I ask for some degree of investment beforehand. Always get yours first. Doesn't matter if it's holding something, helping them move, or threesomes.
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bsutansalt 11y ago
"Here hold this." is met with a blank stare and I don't reach out to grab whatever it is. She might look at me confused and then I'll say "What's the magic word?" And she'll say "pretty please..." I'll return her compliance with some of my own.
The overarching idea is that rapport breaks should be met with rapport breaks of your own, aka mirroring, and her compliance should be "rewarded" with positive feedback by you. In this example the reward is my compliance. It's part standing up for yourself and part operant conditioning.
arnaut 11y ago
ding ding ding. compliance ladders.
I think that the word 'favor' might be responsible for OP's confusion; instead, think about such actions as 'rewards', and frame them as such to the girl (not necessarily explicitly).
[deleted] 11y ago
You can do favors for girls....just don't rearrange you life around it, and don't be afraid to say no. You could maybe get her to pay you back for it "okay but you have to buy me lunch"
[deleted] 11y ago
say no
[deleted] 11y ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_xXhkFLFRME#t=245
spatz2011 11y ago
First off, is she older than 13? If so, she's a woman not a girl. Second. Well there's no real hope here is there?