The redpill as we know it is just a big mixture of PUA, mgtow, and old relatioship stuff, the oldest "redpill guy" if you would call it that, that i know of, is Doc Love.
We know who created this subreddit, but the concepts behind TRP came from the evolution of the Pickup community. A while ago, the zeitgeist was all about routines and prepared material. Well, this started changing - people needed to be able to react to unforseen circumstances, so the knowledge shifted from "how to respond to X" to developing deeper understanding of human interaction and building off that.
TRP is taking this concept a bit further and seeks to understand why these things happen (rather than PUA's more rudimentary situation recognition), and how that can in turn be applied to other situations in life. It also mixes in some self-improvement (which PUA has also shifted toward - especially noticeable if you watch RSD talking about being a "value giving" person).
The sub was initially created as a place to flesh out and discuss these nascent ideas, as well as to provide a sanctuary for them, as they went against the mainstream narrative and thus such discussions were quashed elsewhere.
Of course, they needed a name for this place, and recalling the choice that all of the initial members made to reject the narrative and remove their own blinkers, the metaphor of the choice from the Matrix was chosen - to live a comfortable lie, or to find the truth, no matter how painful.
Since then it's expanded and gone in all sorts of directions, but from the perspective of a long-time lurker, that's what I understand of the genesis of the subreddit "TheRedPill".
Yeah, we're mapping what I call the "Transcendental Unity of Female Apperception." What is the structure of the female mind? From what perspective does a bitch experience the world?
What are the "laws of nature" in this universe, and what are the axioms of her logic, the rules of her geometry?
Pretty sure it started in the PUA community where everyone was noticing common patterns in women. Eventually it grew into its own thing in the manosphere. Pretty sure that's what I read a while back anyway.
I mean, obviously all this stuff was just common practice prior to the feminist bullshit, but when the "uprising" as it were came about, I have no idea. Apparently dalrock or heartiste or something were some of the earlier blogs to talk about this stuff? Would make an interesting story for sure
Keoni Gault was the first manosphere blogger to make the analogy between game and the red pill.. But when it comes to who originally came up with the paradigm shift, that honor belongs to Pook back in 2005, or Bonecrker depending on your worldview. ROK did articles on both Pook and Bonecrker. The seeds for masculine and feminine polarity were planted long before even a.s.f though with David Deida's Way of the Superior Man, first published on 1995.
The concept of inner game has been toted around for years, possibly several decades since the really early days of the Internet. The Red Pill is essentially an extension of inner game and facing up to the facts of human nature. Again, a lot of this behavior has been charted in studies of evolutionary psychology.
As for who started the TRP sub and what caused them to do so I have no idea.
We've made this new place to help beginners and those with specific questions about game or handling specific parts of your life in a red pill context.
Textwalls without paragraph breaks will be deleted without notice.
Please be constructive, it's ok to make mistakes.
Avoid asking questions like "is this alpha" or "is this beta?" Instead focus on asking whether or not your actions were congruent with your goals.
A Note on Moderation
We are removing new posts from new accounts that are young or have little karma. If you want to ask a question, we suggest you spend some time lurking and entering into discussion first. Spend some time reading the /r/theredpill sidebar.
If you see a troll or problem post, don't engage them but use the REPORT link; this will bring it quickly to the attention of the mod team.
Red Pill WOMEN Portal
Attention Women, TRP is a male space so the content may seem shocking. Go to /r/redpillwomen to learn Red Pill theory from the female perspective.
lordofthejelly 8y ago
It was started by /u/pk_atheist, coming up on 3 years ago. You can see the original "Welcome to the Red Pill" post here
Looking through PK's post history, you get a nice look at some of the early days of this subreddit
djthiago1 8y ago
The redpill as we know it is just a big mixture of PUA, mgtow, and old relatioship stuff, the oldest "redpill guy" if you would call it that, that i know of, is Doc Love.
IVIaskerade 8y ago
We know who created this subreddit, but the concepts behind TRP came from the evolution of the Pickup community. A while ago, the zeitgeist was all about routines and prepared material. Well, this started changing - people needed to be able to react to unforseen circumstances, so the knowledge shifted from "how to respond to X" to developing deeper understanding of human interaction and building off that.
TRP is taking this concept a bit further and seeks to understand why these things happen (rather than PUA's more rudimentary situation recognition), and how that can in turn be applied to other situations in life. It also mixes in some self-improvement (which PUA has also shifted toward - especially noticeable if you watch RSD talking about being a "value giving" person).
The sub was initially created as a place to flesh out and discuss these nascent ideas, as well as to provide a sanctuary for them, as they went against the mainstream narrative and thus such discussions were quashed elsewhere.
Of course, they needed a name for this place, and recalling the choice that all of the initial members made to reject the narrative and remove their own blinkers, the metaphor of the choice from the Matrix was chosen - to live a comfortable lie, or to find the truth, no matter how painful.
Since then it's expanded and gone in all sorts of directions, but from the perspective of a long-time lurker, that's what I understand of the genesis of the subreddit "TheRedPill".
favours_of_the_moon 8y ago
Yeah, we're mapping what I call the "Transcendental Unity of Female Apperception." What is the structure of the female mind? From what perspective does a bitch experience the world?
What are the "laws of nature" in this universe, and what are the axioms of her logic, the rules of her geometry?
IVIaskerade 8y ago
That's cool.
I'm getting laid more, and generally making myself into the person I want to be.
Whatever floats your boat.
TheDarkTriad 8y ago
Pretty sure it started in the PUA community where everyone was noticing common patterns in women. Eventually it grew into its own thing in the manosphere. Pretty sure that's what I read a while back anyway.
Squeezymypenisy 8y ago
Cavemen and natural alphas. Its been around forever. The sub itself was about 2 or 3 years ago.
RidleySmith 8y ago
Yes, I would like to know this too.
I mean, obviously all this stuff was just common practice prior to the feminist bullshit, but when the "uprising" as it were came about, I have no idea. Apparently dalrock or heartiste or something were some of the earlier blogs to talk about this stuff? Would make an interesting story for sure
SirZiggyStardust 8y ago
Neckbeards and 4chan got tired of jerking each other off and decided to create this steaming shithole of a sub.
Red-Zen 8y ago
"The Misandry Bubble". Jan 1st, 2010.
AFAIK, it's the closest thing to a Genesis that TRP had.
RBuddDwyer 8y ago
Keoni Gault was the first manosphere blogger to make the analogy between game and the red pill.. But when it comes to who originally came up with the paradigm shift, that honor belongs to Pook back in 2005, or Bonecrker depending on your worldview. ROK did articles on both Pook and Bonecrker. The seeds for masculine and feminine polarity were planted long before even a.s.f though with David Deida's Way of the Superior Man, first published on 1995.
Rorta 8y ago
The concept of inner game has been toted around for years, possibly several decades since the really early days of the Internet. The Red Pill is essentially an extension of inner game and facing up to the facts of human nature. Again, a lot of this behavior has been charted in studies of evolutionary psychology.
As for who started the TRP sub and what caused them to do so I have no idea.
martin-ho 8y ago
Roosh V claims that he invented it. Here's the video where he says so.
machimus 8y ago
Sure he did.
Squeezymypenisy 8y ago
Lol what a fake.
moveon4ever 8y ago
that guy is funny, by how he looks you can say that he's blue as fuck
martin-ho 8y ago
no?
moveon4ever 8y ago
yes :(