Apologies if this question is stupid, but being a complete beta I didn't even know women did this until a year ago.
Why do they do it? Is it for attention? Do they want to please high SMV men? What's the benefit to them?
And why do you think that even celebrities would do it?
I would have thought it'd only be the most sexual/slutty of women but it seems like 80%+ do it, even the "good" girls. I know a couple guys with their phones full of nude photos that women have sent them. As a former blue pill guy it just blows my mind that this kind of stuff happens. It definitely has never happened to me. I'm very confused.
It also is completely contradictory to this message that we get that women don't want to be "objectified."
[deleted] 10y ago
In short, validation.
As for the good girls, they like to be sluts but just for their man. If some distance is involved it's also more likely for them to share to appease their SO .
Bottom line, every girl will share nudes for the right guy
TattedGuyser 10y ago
That's really the key here. All women will do it for the right guy (and very often the same guy). When starved for that alphas attention the hamster5000 kicks into overdrive and she'll do what she thinks is necessary to reel him back in. Only problem is, women only tend to have one valuable asset. After all, I can't fuck her college diploma.
Soultrane9 10y ago
Oh they want but only by the alpha. You need to forget your princess mentality. They are people just like you and me. They want the hot ones but guess what: there is a big fucking competition for a high value male. They are competing for that high value male's attention. Pickme pickme i'm a hotslut!!!!
kanaduhisfruityeh 10y ago
You're right. It is harder for men to get any partner of the opposite sex, but women are actually competing for a much smaller percentage of the male population- the top 20% or whatever the number is. Men like sex, it is their weakness. So the women try to out-sex the competition in order to win the scarce high value man. That's why you have women sending nude photos, and indulging in high value men's various sexual whims.
Red_August 10y ago
It is very much the primary purpose of women to try and catch the best man they can possibly get, get impregnated, rinse and repeat with the same man or a better one if one comes along (hypergamy). The best chance of survival for her few offspring depends on it. Women who were good at attention-whoring got a larger pool to choose from. Women who were good at targeting the best man and locking-in that high quality man had better offspring that likely exhibited similar desires and characteristics.
leodoestheopposite 10y ago
From my experience: most women crave being bad girls, however they are very guarded about it.
If you offer them the right environment, being both safe and playful, they will unleash the sexual playfulness within them, the wildest sex ever imagined, dirty talk, sex in public, experimentation, pics, movies and much more.
subbice 10y ago
This guy knows whats up.
raceAround126 10y ago
I always thought that this was make believe. If you told me a year ago, girls would willingly send me unsolicited nude pictures either via snapchat, mms or, daringly, some even email, I would probably have laughed at you.
The ones I've had are from girls I've probably ignored the most. I don't treat people badly, but girls who I've slept with and then not wanted anything further from have generally been the biggest culprits. Basically, if you dread a girl hard enough then she probably will. But of course, she has to be completely into you. If it's only luke warm, don't expect it. I certainly haven't had them from every girl. But a few particular ones have.
Oh - and never ask for them! And never send first. Personally I've never sent full stop!
If I'm honest, I can't say I'm a fan. If a girl is attempting to tell me she's "different" or "not like them other girls", sending me nude pics isn't the way to do it. If we are in a LTR then yeah maybe, that's cool. But someone I met once? A bit weird if you ask me!
johnnight 10y ago
I encountered an exception to this. She would send me sexy pics of girls from the Internet. It's the same but she would use them as proxies of herself without the risk of putting her own pics out there.
We could say she sexually objectified other women for me.
LS_D 10y ago
that's kind of trippy! was she cute herself?
johnnight 10y ago
Yes.
LS_D 10y ago
hmmmm? fun too?
mordanus 10y ago
Two reasons.
The first is validation. This is a lot like economics. They have something of value and they trade it to you in return for something they view as valuable. They give their sexuality for your attention.
The second one is manipulation. This one is almost identical to how Nice Guys work. Nice guys will let a woman walk all over them and use them for their time/money/support/ and the Nice Guy in turn hopes for something in return. He is trying to manipulate the girl into loving/fucking him by doing good deeds and hoping she pays out
Sluts do the exact same thing. They give out sexuality in hopes of a relationship. They will wear sexy clothes, send you pics, dish out blow jobs and do kinky shit they wouldn't do normally in order to manipulate you into a relationship.
Both of these groups end up getting pissed off and bitter towards the other gender because they have been taught that this is the way to get what they want and both of them shout out the same shit. "There's no good __ anymore."
That is a half truth. If women didn't want to be objectified they wouldn't dress in clothing that accentuated their sexual features. They not only want to be objectified, they need to be. That is what they know to be valuable to men and they need to be valuable to us.
The problem with that is that most men are not attractive to most women. It's about 10 percent of the population that is above average and the next 10% down are just ok. 80% of the guys out there women see as unfit for mating with and when one of those guys wants to be with her she gets disgusted. She wonders that's all she can attract and projects that by shaming those men that would dare think they could sample her goods that she is reserving for the top males out there.
Women want/need objectification, just not by most men. If you ever doubt that watch how they react to rock stars or how much they love songs that objectify them like baby got back.
LS_D 10y ago
My friend /u/Mordanus, you have much insight into the female mind ... that was a brilliantly concise yet comprehensive post about the rationale behind the 'average female's' sexual behaviour and .... what's that's RP term,ah yes, "poly amoury"
You definitely should have one of these bro ♂
n.b. on the whole, women care more about what other women think about them than what the guys think about them. They can control most guys, but they have no control over the girls whatsoever, and hence that's who they're "competing" with!
women tend to love control, which is why so many have eating disorders, it's not about food, it's all about the control they wish to have, being 'represented' by the food . . . kinda sad really
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[deleted] 10y ago
To make their boyfriend happy, to fish for compliments, or sometimes just to say "fuck you patriarchy, I can be a slut if I want to!".
Celi92 10y ago
Validation. They can also manipulate how the photo comes out. Girls will often take photos from many different angles and choose the ones that come out the best, similar to what they do with selfies. They want the guy to think their body is that hot.
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forgetful_storytellr 10y ago
Good post, but you need to learn the difference between "to" and "too".
Overzealous_BlackGuy 10y ago
Women get turned on by mens arousal, and the nice feeling of validation.
c_anthony 10y ago
It seems like a lot of the time they want the attention, they want to be told they're attractive and objectified in that way (though they don't want to admit to it), especially if it's by a guy with high SMV.
There is one reason that sometimes presents though, as was true with my ex-fiancee. She sent me nudes in the hope that I'd fap to her and not to porn of someone else. She was really insecure about things (one of the reasons she became an ex).
kanaduhisfruityeh 10y ago
The funny thing about nude photos is that women probably only send them to selected "high SMV men". But even the lowliest "beta loser", "omega virgin", etc., has access to an endless supply of photos and video of naked women thanks to porn and the internet. The market has been inundated.
LS_D 10y ago
yeah, what MP3's did for music ,, digital camera's did for porn!
[deleted] 10y ago
Yeah, but there's a big difference between looking at pictures/videos of porn, and a girl sending you a nude snap chat with your name on it.
GunsGermsAndSteel 10y ago
For the same reason young men send photos of their cars, motorcycles, or even just a big handful of hundred dollar bills: proof of social value.
secret_barber 10y ago
They send them because I tell them to.
RPSavant 10y ago
maybe their brains are not fully developed until their mid 20's so they have less control over the stupid stuff they do.
they do it for attention because they know 90% of guys will do anything for some action and like to play the cat and mouse game.
pjvex 10y ago
Yes... I agree. But I also think it ups the ante on what a competitive level of female sexuality is.
I was in my early 20s in the mid/early 1990s before the internet-- flirting with a hookup or a girl in nascent relationship was not as openly sexual. I think if you polled the 20-something women in 1994, they would call their 2014 counterparts whorish sluts.
As such, it probably took less to attract the HVM back then. Today however, with internet porn, etc., guys are "been there done that". Women know this, so an ass shot in the bathroom mirror (or more) emailed to a guy that they have hooked up with a few times is probably standard.
jamieoneal82 10y ago
Most never grow up past this stage.