In a nutshell, many things that would've made a woman think I was weird, stupid, gross, creepy, rude, or boring, turned into her thinking I was either cute, hot, funny, confident, or interesting.
After: Having to fight off women with a stick. Girls approach me in the gym, come up with excuses for me to hold their phones. Girls ask their parents to try to set me up with them and invite me to dinners at their houses. Plates, ex-gfs, ex-wives beg me to come to their house and have sex with them. Plates want to try stuff like dry anal or ass-to-mouth.
In general: I went from waiting on FB messenger looking for someone to talk to at night to having to put my phone on silent and waking up to messages and if I was lucky a snapshot nude or 2. The quality of women changed to. I went from getting chatted up by 5-6's to getting chatted up by 7.5-9's, and 5-6's gave up or lost hope.
Relationship to relationship: I was engaged to a girl who was no longer attracted to me and we eventually broke up (a year ago). I acted beta in that relationship trying to appease her and i lost in the end. The amount of sex last summer was down to none.
I have recently moved a plate to relationship status because she was a great supplement to my life and passions, and she was hot, smart, and established. I am RP at every turn, applying amused mastery, hints of dread, taking what I want, and understanding the only thing I can truly control is myself. This has lead to sex 5-6 nights a week and usually multiples a day. I went from depressed wanting to kill myself in the previous summer to this being best summer I have ever had.
Going out 7.5's-9's went from not giving me the time of day to me number closing and F closing on a regular basis.
What made the difference:
Understanding TRP - It gave me a new social understanding of how the world truly works, and what is truly important, how women love, how men love and the differences. I analyzed the past and the present, with my new TRP microscope. I saw situations where I accidentally or naturally applied alpha behavior and how I got positive results from it, and how trying to be a nice guy beta got me burned.
Lifting - I started 6 days a week and I now I am at 3 days. I focused on diet and exercise above all else. I set goals, made meal plan and check progress. It was a much boost in confidence seeing myself change in front of the mirror for the better, and it being the main life focus helped you give off a natural outcome independent attitude at the bars and clubs or in other social settings.
Career / Passion focus - along with working out I put hard work in at my employer and got a promotion and have a much more exciting job. I am also a musician and I put all my anger and emotions into my music and have gotten some really cool results.
Taking the lead - In the fall last year the amount of times I went out and got lucky in the same night: 1; in the spring and summer: many. The biggest difference was walking up to women and putting myself out there. Sure you crash and burn until you figure it out (Tinder is a good simulator of this btw).
Getting one-itis? Spin plates! - Oneitis was a huge enemy to me and I fought it off any chance I could get. If you dodge oneitis, you will never have that scarcity mentality with women. Even the girl i have now. I think she is great. She is an awesome fit for me, but if she slips in loyalty, physical appearance (like letting herself go), I have no problem dropping it and spinning plates.
Kinda long but this is what i have noticed in a nutshell.
I put all my anger and emotions into my music and have gotten some really cool results.
I do the same thing. I highly recommend every one here to learn an instrument. It's one of the best if not the second best hobby to have besides lifting.
Married, 3 kids, was sex twice a month and disrespect. Then she cheated. Then I discovered TRP and embraced it, including lifting and growing big guns and putting up with zero bullshit. Now sex 4 times a week and blowjobs on demand, which she happily gives and often suggests. This shit works
Was it hard to forgive her on the cheating? Or you just said well fuck it I don't blame her since I was a beta little bitch back then? Or are you talking about a different woman?
Same women. Yeah it was really hard, you never get over it. 3 kids made it tough to leave, so I tried TRP and MMSL hard. It worked beyond any expectations. I raised my SMV above hers and she can't keep her hands off me now. You can't demand attraction, it either there or it isn't. Best thing I ever did was start lifting.
Suck this Blue Pill. Cross-post it b'yatches, I dare you.
Women before and after TRP is like passing from a desert into a lush tropical forest. In practicing approaches and PUA I have changed everything about my interactions with women and I could tell many stories about approaches and interactions since TRP.
However, I should really tell you about the wife instead. I am Married with children. Same old, same old- married, lots of sex. Tapered back to twice a month after the kids. She was angry, snippy, bitter bullshit, constant shit tests, open disrespect. Why wouldn't she be? Her husband was a piece shit. He treated her like shit and honestly did not really like her very much. He was out of shape, weak, pathetic, whiny, and had an extremely negative attitude about the world following some bad shit that went down. Pissy and sour was how people described it. He piled negative shit on his wife and relied on her for emotional support and validation. He approached sex transactionally (he had to earn it) and wasn't very good at it. He was fucking absolutely FULL of covert contracts of the "if I pretend to be nice to her today maybe she will let me fuck her" kind. He had no idea- NONE- how to deal with the cyclical shit tests or the 'seemingly' variable behaviors of his woman (Facepalm! I just saw the calendar that I use to track her cycle- cyclical indeed).
One child was about to be held back a grade and the older one was suspended from school and threatening to quit playing football.
The only issue to decide was who would file the divorce case first.
TRP +1 year we have never been happier. I have studied seduction, PUA, and most important, The Sex God Method. The kids are under control. The wife is under control. She respects me again. I graduated from school with a PhD and found a job. I am in even better shape than when I got my Black Belt. She comes to events when I speak in public and looks at me adoringly. We touch. We kiss.
We operate like a team. These gender role thingy they criticize so much. They really DO work. Instead of losing my shit like before TRP, I respond to Shit Tests with calm, cool, masculine energy. It works. I set the boundaries of the relationship and the rules for our kids. We have a Captain/First Officer relationship. She is my "Number One" who (almost) always speaks with respect and who increasingly relies on me for her emotional, psychological and spiritual support. She has BOTH a Beta Buck and an Alpha Fuck.
Bottom line: Before TRP: Sex twice a month.
After TRP: Sex 3-4 times a week. I have completely blown her world in bed so many times these last few months with kinky shit I don't think she ever imagined she would do.
Two years ago before I swallowed the pill when I was 26 I met my friends attractive female roommate who was 27. We talked and I tried dancing with her but she ignored me and was completely disinterested. He moved away and I never saw her again.
Last month I was at a bar and the same girl comes up to me and says "Hey you're my old roommates friend right? How are you?". Bluepill me would have said "Oh hey! I haven't seen you since that one time at that bar".
Having swallowed the pill I said "Who are you? Oh, I don't remember meeting you."
We talk for 15 minutes and eventually she says "So, I'm trying to get laid tonight..". I tell her I have to get up early but she can give me her number. Now she's one of my plates.
I was huge and shitty and smoked weed all the time and had a shitty job. I was a lawyer but I made like, 29 thousand. I was also hugely depressed from my mom passing away. I was an objective 3, and I'm giving myself that only because I like, showered everyday and could form sentences fairly well.
I quit weed, went on keto andlost 100lbs, got into lifting again as well as martial arts, and got my career on track. I'm still chubby and I'm not rich, but doing a lot better. I was in a marriage where my ex-wife (maybe a 4?) never wanted to fuck me and decided to leave me. A year after the divorce, I got into an LTR with a much cuter girl who likes fucking me a lot. I hadn't found TRP yet, but I had read MMSLP which covers a lot of the same stuff. Recognized a lot of myself in that which is why I did what I did to improve.
Then: Oh, god. I cringe writing this. I had a girl that wanted to hookup up one night and I wouldn't make a move because I wanted to be respectful, or something. Later I brought her a dozen roses to try to get her out on a date and obviously she wanted nothing to do with me, but I thought persistence was the key to her heart. LOL
I asked girls (yeah multiple) out over Facebook that I met the previous weekend. I asked a girl if she would ask out her sister for me. I dated a girl that made out and then left with a guy directly in front of me when I was shit-faced, but it was totally cool because we weren't officially together. I bought her flowers for her too a couple months later because he mom died and I wanted her to know I still cared.
I told a girl that I was briefly dating that I wanted to take it slow with her because I thought she was special. That following weekend she tried to fuck my best friend.
I had a girlfriend I dated for two and a half years decide in the middle of our relationship that she wanted to wait to have sex until we were married and I thought about proposing.
So yeah, women basically didn't treat me very well.
Now: I flirted with a blonde model in the elevator that I am going to meetup with later this evening. She can't be a day over 20.
Last week I had a threesome with two hot Indian chicks I met at the club. They were with a big group of Indians and I managed to get their numbers without anyone else noticing. The losers they were with hovered protectively over them all night. I am not usually into Indian women but they were hot. The sex kind of sucked, but I still am rather proud of this.
I don't pussy foot around women anymore. I see something I want and I go after it, and women take notice of my confidence.
You make eye contact with a female, and you both awkwardly look away...10 seconds later, you catch her looking back at you instead of having a look of disgust on her face.
at which point you slowly cruise over and say g'day! She's already shown interest in you, now it's your turn and it's at this point, 'frame' means everything
Well my question was about in the 2nd part. First part is kind of a no brainer. I just don't get how it makes a difference. If you catch her looking at you again 10s later you may as well look first or is the point that you make eye contact after she is checking you out again?
Girls will notice you out of peripheral vision, like if you're walking down the street. They'll touch their hair and try to get you to notice them. They'll make themselves more "open" and smile more. They give you more eye contact. Usually better service at the cash register and in restaurants. They talk more and repeat the same things to keep the conversation/interaction longer. You might get some approaches where women actually initiate conversation.
I mean, it's really the same thing as how guys treat hot women.
Now I'm a fit somebody. People now talk about me, the shot is always there to talk with the girls I know. The more of them I date the more that wanna see what I'm all about. This change took a year and a half.
A big part of it was keeping my head down so to speak. I stayed away from any girl I might have had an interest in. I'll mention I use to be fat and they'll say "I don't ever remember you being fat." Lol, I was in the same room all the time with these girls in my fatty days.
I just made friends with EVERYBODY but good looking girls that first year. Old people, kids, the ugly fat friend in the group. Its like I came out of nowhere to them and I was here the whole time. All they know is suddenly everyone talks about me in a positive light and I look good.
I'll mention I use to be fat and they'll say "I don't ever remember you being fat." Lol, I was in the same room all the time with these girls in my fatty days.
Just in case you needed a reminder that unless you are that top 20% of attractiveness (relative to the surroundings), you are invisible to the average woman.
So you came back to school after the divorce? How was that? I'm recently divorced and sometimes I think I should do an MBA just to spend more time around fun people and young horny girls.
Before: Nice guy, someone who's "marriage material", patient, good listener, very good friend. Could count on one hand the number of women who I could pick as potential partners, none above the 6 margin.
After: "Asshole", someone who's "fuck material", explosive, definately a guy women know that has options in his hand. Fingers and toes aren't enough to count the number of women I could call and fuck at leisure, none below the 6 margin.
Similar for me. I used to desperately pay attention to every look and comment that women made to me hoping to find some sign of interest. If I did see interest I would spend weeks being the nice guy trying to convince her that I was boyfriend material.
Now, I get women showing obvious interest all the time and I only have to figure out it which ones are going to be pains in the ass and which are going to be fun. I tell them right away that I'm not interested in anything serious and they want me even more.
Similar for me. I used to desperately pay attention to every look and comment that women made to me hoping to find some sign of interest. If I did see interest I would spend weeks being the nice guy trying to convince her that I was boyfriend material.
Now, I get women showing obvious interest all the time and I only have to figure out it which ones are going to be pains in the ass and which are going to be fun. I tell them right away that I'm not interested in anything serious and they want me even more.
Its more that you get more sexual attention, I don't really notice that much difference in non sexual attention, but then im not that big, just lifted to get definition
I went out every single night for about a year (as well as lifting, building my company, among other habits). I have total abundance. I have sex with at least three different women each week (sometimes three in a day; sometimes six in a week). "Game" is effortless. I can go out any night alone and pull.
Fuck yeah I did. And went to the same bars on the same nights. It doesn't take long to meet people and feel comfortable going out alone any night and recognizing friends out.
Going out and approaching every single night tightened up my game and gave me the reference experiences necessary to achieve those results. Nothing external matters if you have your basic shit handled (hygiene, finances, fitness, style, etc.).
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a_nus 9y ago
In a nutshell, many things that would've made a woman think I was weird, stupid, gross, creepy, rude, or boring, turned into her thinking I was either cute, hot, funny, confident, or interesting.
aaron_the_just 9y ago
Before: Decent game, not too bad. No complaints.
After: Having to fight off women with a stick. Girls approach me in the gym, come up with excuses for me to hold their phones. Girls ask their parents to try to set me up with them and invite me to dinners at their houses. Plates, ex-gfs, ex-wives beg me to come to their house and have sex with them. Plates want to try stuff like dry anal or ass-to-mouth.
It's like living life on easy mode.
[deleted] 9y ago
In general: I went from waiting on FB messenger looking for someone to talk to at night to having to put my phone on silent and waking up to messages and if I was lucky a snapshot nude or 2. The quality of women changed to. I went from getting chatted up by 5-6's to getting chatted up by 7.5-9's, and 5-6's gave up or lost hope.
Relationship to relationship: I was engaged to a girl who was no longer attracted to me and we eventually broke up (a year ago). I acted beta in that relationship trying to appease her and i lost in the end. The amount of sex last summer was down to none.
I have recently moved a plate to relationship status because she was a great supplement to my life and passions, and she was hot, smart, and established. I am RP at every turn, applying amused mastery, hints of dread, taking what I want, and understanding the only thing I can truly control is myself. This has lead to sex 5-6 nights a week and usually multiples a day. I went from depressed wanting to kill myself in the previous summer to this being best summer I have ever had.
Going out 7.5's-9's went from not giving me the time of day to me number closing and F closing on a regular basis.
What made the difference:
Understanding TRP - It gave me a new social understanding of how the world truly works, and what is truly important, how women love, how men love and the differences. I analyzed the past and the present, with my new TRP microscope. I saw situations where I accidentally or naturally applied alpha behavior and how I got positive results from it, and how trying to be a nice guy beta got me burned.
Lifting - I started 6 days a week and I now I am at 3 days. I focused on diet and exercise above all else. I set goals, made meal plan and check progress. It was a much boost in confidence seeing myself change in front of the mirror for the better, and it being the main life focus helped you give off a natural outcome independent attitude at the bars and clubs or in other social settings.
Career / Passion focus - along with working out I put hard work in at my employer and got a promotion and have a much more exciting job. I am also a musician and I put all my anger and emotions into my music and have gotten some really cool results.
Taking the lead - In the fall last year the amount of times I went out and got lucky in the same night: 1; in the spring and summer: many. The biggest difference was walking up to women and putting myself out there. Sure you crash and burn until you figure it out (Tinder is a good simulator of this btw).
Kinda long but this is what i have noticed in a nutshell.
badboyant 9y ago
You should post this as a FR in /r/theredpill. Great read!
laere 9y ago
I do the same thing. I highly recommend every one here to learn an instrument. It's one of the best if not the second best hobby to have besides lifting.
n0c0ntr0l 9y ago
Or your computer. Electronic music has GREAT anger outlets!
ToddSD 9y ago
Married, 3 kids, was sex twice a month and disrespect. Then she cheated. Then I discovered TRP and embraced it, including lifting and growing big guns and putting up with zero bullshit. Now sex 4 times a week and blowjobs on demand, which she happily gives and often suggests. This shit works
MasonJarTeaDrinker 9y ago
Was it hard to forgive her on the cheating? Or you just said well fuck it I don't blame her since I was a beta little bitch back then? Or are you talking about a different woman?
ToddSD 9y ago
Same women. Yeah it was really hard, you never get over it. 3 kids made it tough to leave, so I tried TRP and MMSL hard. It worked beyond any expectations. I raised my SMV above hers and she can't keep her hands off me now. You can't demand attraction, it either there or it isn't. Best thing I ever did was start lifting.
BluepillProfessor 9y ago
Suck this Blue Pill. Cross-post it b'yatches, I dare you.
Women before and after TRP is like passing from a desert into a lush tropical forest. In practicing approaches and PUA I have changed everything about my interactions with women and I could tell many stories about approaches and interactions since TRP.
However, I should really tell you about the wife instead. I am Married with children. Same old, same old- married, lots of sex. Tapered back to twice a month after the kids. She was angry, snippy, bitter bullshit, constant shit tests, open disrespect. Why wouldn't she be? Her husband was a piece shit. He treated her like shit and honestly did not really like her very much. He was out of shape, weak, pathetic, whiny, and had an extremely negative attitude about the world following some bad shit that went down. Pissy and sour was how people described it. He piled negative shit on his wife and relied on her for emotional support and validation. He approached sex transactionally (he had to earn it) and wasn't very good at it. He was fucking absolutely FULL of covert contracts of the "if I pretend to be nice to her today maybe she will let me fuck her" kind. He had no idea- NONE- how to deal with the cyclical shit tests or the 'seemingly' variable behaviors of his woman (Facepalm! I just saw the calendar that I use to track her cycle- cyclical indeed).
One child was about to be held back a grade and the older one was suspended from school and threatening to quit playing football.
The only issue to decide was who would file the divorce case first.
TRP +1 year we have never been happier. I have studied seduction, PUA, and most important, The Sex God Method. The kids are under control. The wife is under control. She respects me again. I graduated from school with a PhD and found a job. I am in even better shape than when I got my Black Belt. She comes to events when I speak in public and looks at me adoringly. We touch. We kiss.
We operate like a team. These gender role thingy they criticize so much. They really DO work. Instead of losing my shit like before TRP, I respond to Shit Tests with calm, cool, masculine energy. It works. I set the boundaries of the relationship and the rules for our kids. We have a Captain/First Officer relationship. She is my "Number One" who (almost) always speaks with respect and who increasingly relies on me for her emotional, psychological and spiritual support. She has BOTH a Beta Buck and an Alpha Fuck.
Bottom line: Before TRP: Sex twice a month.
After TRP: Sex 3-4 times a week. I have completely blown her world in bed so many times these last few months with kinky shit I don't think she ever imagined she would do.
[deleted] 9y ago
Two years ago before I swallowed the pill when I was 26 I met my friends attractive female roommate who was 27. We talked and I tried dancing with her but she ignored me and was completely disinterested. He moved away and I never saw her again.
Last month I was at a bar and the same girl comes up to me and says "Hey you're my old roommates friend right? How are you?". Bluepill me would have said "Oh hey! I haven't seen you since that one time at that bar".
Having swallowed the pill I said "Who are you? Oh, I don't remember meeting you."
We talk for 15 minutes and eventually she says "So, I'm trying to get laid tonight..". I tell her I have to get up early but she can give me her number. Now she's one of my plates.
RedSpectrum 9y ago
Word son. Be careful though, shes 29 now, getting ready to hit the wall or already at the wall. Make sure she doesn't turn into a Level 5 clinger.
[deleted] 9y ago
She's definitely nearing the wall and I'm so glad that SMV is on the sidebar
AllOrDeath 9y ago
So part of your self improvement is to lie about remembering her and mislead about wanting to bang her?
imeneo 9y ago
I think he was just using it as an example and either way it exemplifies his abundance mentality.
AllOrDeath 9y ago
So TRP endorses dishonesty to fuck women now?
couid 9y ago
TRP has always endorsed dishonesty to fuck women. Because when we are ourselves girls don't want to have sex with us so we pretend to be alphas.
LS_D 9y ago
well most women certainly aren't all that honest when chasing a guy, as I guess you'd know well!
AllOrDeath 9y ago
Two wrongs make a right?
LS_D 9y ago
did I say that?
Concord_Fight 9y ago
Specifics of your raise in SMV?
anttyk47 9y ago
Hit the gym, stop being a bitch
[deleted] 9y ago
1) Started lifting and eating better 2) Read male fashion blogs and learned how to dress well 3) Found TRP and read everything on the sidebar
If you are in better shape, better dressed and more charasmatic than those around you then people will notice.
slurmssmckenzie 9y ago
Its that easy. To reach god mode takes more effort. But just doing what you mentioned will really change things.
thewaywayhome 9y ago
Are you refering to simple pickup God mode?
kick6 9y ago
Links? Been trying to find some of these that aren't geared towards SWPL betas.
Top_Ozone 9y ago
http://masculine-style.com/
[deleted] 9y ago
I started looking around GQ and /r/malefashionadvice and found smaller blogs on there that were more suited towards my style.
Average_Black_Man 9y ago
Be weary of the metrosexual shit on /r/malefashionadvice
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Average_Black_Man 9y ago
I don't know of any others, no. /r/malefashionadvice is great if you know what to avoid.
rphb187 9y ago
I was huge and shitty and smoked weed all the time and had a shitty job. I was a lawyer but I made like, 29 thousand. I was also hugely depressed from my mom passing away. I was an objective 3, and I'm giving myself that only because I like, showered everyday and could form sentences fairly well.
I quit weed, went on keto andlost 100lbs, got into lifting again as well as martial arts, and got my career on track. I'm still chubby and I'm not rich, but doing a lot better. I was in a marriage where my ex-wife (maybe a 4?) never wanted to fuck me and decided to leave me. A year after the divorce, I got into an LTR with a much cuter girl who likes fucking me a lot. I hadn't found TRP yet, but I had read MMSLP which covers a lot of the same stuff. Recognized a lot of myself in that which is why I did what I did to improve.
[deleted] 9y ago
Then: Oh, god. I cringe writing this. I had a girl that wanted to hookup up one night and I wouldn't make a move because I wanted to be respectful, or something. Later I brought her a dozen roses to try to get her out on a date and obviously she wanted nothing to do with me, but I thought persistence was the key to her heart. LOL
I asked girls (yeah multiple) out over Facebook that I met the previous weekend. I asked a girl if she would ask out her sister for me. I dated a girl that made out and then left with a guy directly in front of me when I was shit-faced, but it was totally cool because we weren't officially together. I bought her flowers for her too a couple months later because he mom died and I wanted her to know I still cared.
I told a girl that I was briefly dating that I wanted to take it slow with her because I thought she was special. That following weekend she tried to fuck my best friend.
I had a girlfriend I dated for two and a half years decide in the middle of our relationship that she wanted to wait to have sex until we were married and I thought about proposing.
So yeah, women basically didn't treat me very well.
Now: I flirted with a blonde model in the elevator that I am going to meetup with later this evening. She can't be a day over 20.
Last week I had a threesome with two hot Indian chicks I met at the club. They were with a big group of Indians and I managed to get their numbers without anyone else noticing. The losers they were with hovered protectively over them all night. I am not usually into Indian women but they were hot. The sex kind of sucked, but I still am rather proud of this.
I don't pussy foot around women anymore. I see something I want and I go after it, and women take notice of my confidence.
kick6 9y ago
You make eye contact with a female, and you both awkwardly look away...10 seconds later, you catch her looking back at you instead of having a look of disgust on her face.
LS_D 9y ago
at which point you slowly cruise over and say g'day! She's already shown interest in you, now it's your turn and it's at this point, 'frame' means everything
Adolf_ghandi 9y ago
Is straight up staring in this time frame acceptable or "strange/needy" behaviour?
kick6 9y ago
If you stare until she looks away, that's alpha. If you continue to stare, you risk the creepy label.
Adolf_ghandi 9y ago
Well my question was about in the 2nd part. First part is kind of a no brainer. I just don't get how it makes a difference. If you catch her looking at you again 10s later you may as well look first or is the point that you make eye contact after she is checking you out again?
I.e. look less needy but more like "caught you!"?
kick6 9y ago
The second look is an IOI. If she's smangable, approach. Nomsayin?
Adolf_ghandi 9y ago
Yes I know. The point is will staring put her off or does it not matter that much if you don't look like you are a mad chainsaw killer?
kick6 9y ago
If you don't approach it will, yea. You'll just be some weird guy staring at her.
[deleted] 9y ago
Girls will notice you out of peripheral vision, like if you're walking down the street. They'll touch their hair and try to get you to notice them. They'll make themselves more "open" and smile more. They give you more eye contact. Usually better service at the cash register and in restaurants. They talk more and repeat the same things to keep the conversation/interaction longer. You might get some approaches where women actually initiate conversation.
I mean, it's really the same thing as how guys treat hot women.
slurmssmckenzie 9y ago
At least in the large circles I run in.
I was a fat recently divorced nobody. Invisible.
Now I'm a fit somebody. People now talk about me, the shot is always there to talk with the girls I know. The more of them I date the more that wanna see what I'm all about. This change took a year and a half.
lloopy 9y ago
This is a path I'm on. Good to know the long effort paid off.
Addictedtoiron 9y ago
Thanks for adding a timeframe. Shit doesnt happens in a couple of months but confidence is something we build up and might take some time.
slurmssmckenzie 9y ago
A big part of it was keeping my head down so to speak. I stayed away from any girl I might have had an interest in. I'll mention I use to be fat and they'll say "I don't ever remember you being fat." Lol, I was in the same room all the time with these girls in my fatty days.
I just made friends with EVERYBODY but good looking girls that first year. Old people, kids, the ugly fat friend in the group. Its like I came out of nowhere to them and I was here the whole time. All they know is suddenly everyone talks about me in a positive light and I look good.
TheSKSpecial 9y ago
Just in case you needed a reminder that unless you are that top 20% of attractiveness (relative to the surroundings), you are invisible to the average woman.
Addictedtoiron 9y ago
So you came back to school after the divorce? How was that? I'm recently divorced and sometimes I think I should do an MBA just to spend more time around fun people and young horny girls.
DrakeSaint 9y ago
Before: Nice guy, someone who's "marriage material", patient, good listener, very good friend. Could count on one hand the number of women who I could pick as potential partners, none above the 6 margin.
After: "Asshole", someone who's "fuck material", explosive, definately a guy women know that has options in his hand. Fingers and toes aren't enough to count the number of women I could call and fuck at leisure, none below the 6 margin.
0fuqs4u 9y ago
Similar for me. I used to desperately pay attention to every look and comment that women made to me hoping to find some sign of interest. If I did see interest I would spend weeks being the nice guy trying to convince her that I was boyfriend material.
Now, I get women showing obvious interest all the time and I only have to figure out it which ones are going to be pains in the ass and which are going to be fun. I tell them right away that I'm not interested in anything serious and they want me even more.
Life is good when you finally take control of it.
0fuqs4u 9y ago
Similar for me. I used to desperately pay attention to every look and comment that women made to me hoping to find some sign of interest. If I did see interest I would spend weeks being the nice guy trying to convince her that I was boyfriend material.
Now, I get women showing obvious interest all the time and I only have to figure out it which ones are going to be pains in the ass and which are going to be fun. I tell them right away that I'm not interested in anything serious and they want me even more.
Life is good when you finally take control of it.
Soultrane9 9y ago
They engage small talk and hold eye contact much longer.
masterrod 9y ago
i have a lot more fun with non-compliance..
SouthwellR 9y ago
Its more that you get more sexual attention, I don't really notice that much difference in non sexual attention, but then im not that big, just lifted to get definition
[deleted] 9y ago
I went out every single night for about a year (as well as lifting, building my company, among other habits). I have total abundance. I have sex with at least three different women each week (sometimes three in a day; sometimes six in a week). "Game" is effortless. I can go out any night alone and pull.
thebuddhalifts 9y ago
Did you go out alone?
[deleted] 9y ago
Fuck yeah I did. And went to the same bars on the same nights. It doesn't take long to meet people and feel comfortable going out alone any night and recognizing friends out.
thebuddhalifts 9y ago
Ive been working on this, i went out last week on my own, and i felt intimidated. Have you got any tips? conversation starters for guys? Thanks
[deleted] 9y ago
"Hey! How's your night going?"
It doesn't matter what you say. It matters how you say it. Loud, clear, and breaking rapport tonality will open any group.
thewaywayhome 9y ago
What did did you do with you SMV to get such results?
[deleted] 9y ago
Going out and approaching every single night tightened up my game and gave me the reference experiences necessary to achieve those results. Nothing external matters if you have your basic shit handled (hygiene, finances, fitness, style, etc.).