I've known some guys to say that they just chill with a girl and just ask her for some head so they don't have to kiss her. Usually I figured you have to escalate with a chick like make out with her, get her horny, etc. In my case, thats what I usually have to do. Has anybody else had success in just asking?
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dreckmal 10y ago
I've known some guys that lie in an attempt to improve their social standing in the group. Once you are not a teenager, this shit becomes readily transparent.
If you do the footwork, you won't even have to ask. But there are no girls that will just suck dick by 'chilling and asking her for one'.
FUBARtheinsane 10y ago
That's not true. I've asked for sex in the middle of listening to a band. She told me No and acted shocked then turned around ten minutes later and said yes lol... That's not happened to me often but there are times being cheeky works.
dreckmal 10y ago
Did you just walk up to this girl, never having talked to her before, and proposition her for sex? Or had you been with this girl for some length of time (i.e. putting the footwork in)?
FUBARtheinsane 10y ago
I'd been introduced to her that night. We were in Ireland so a few of us were travelling through. I think she was surprised at the audacity and shocked and it then took ten minutes for her to get turned on and build up the confidence to say yes.
We went for a walk and I got bitten all over by midgies because obviously I was naked and it was pretty horrific the day after. Bites everywhere.
She was Canadian. I'm British. If she'd told me to Fuck Off, I wouldn't have cared. She had seemed friendly and interested though. I didn't just ask from a totally cold, starting point. We were chatting and there was chemistry.
FocalBox 10y ago
What footwork? And what if she's tired/not in the mood?
dreckmal 10y ago
The footwork is everything you have done to improve your SMV. It also includes any and everything you've done with this girl to incite her passion.
And I don't care if she ain't in the mood. One of my needs is sexual release. If she is too tired or not in the mood, some other girl will be ready to go. If she can't bother to take care of my needs, should I continue to take care of hers?
I don't have time to deal with someone's flighty bullshit. Since I have established this upfront, and maintained this attitude throughout the relationship, she will never be too tired or not in the mood. The only thing that stops me from getting my sex from her are medical problems.
FocalBox 10y ago
How do I establish this. I've told her once before that "if you don't empty my balls I'll find someone who does", but I find that being direct and upfront about this is ineffective -- it has to be subtle. I think exactly like you do, but if I were to say that, it would be counterproductive (i.e. it'd lead to her whining and thinking I'm using her for sex), and if anything it'll put too much pressure on her to perform well -- which discourages her.
In my situation I need to reward her behavior to make her want it more (even if she's doing a bad job, as long as she's wanting to make me cum I need to reward it). I feel like correctly administered rewards will be more beneficial than threatening or giving her the pressure.
dreckmal 10y ago
You never, ever, ever make a threat that you will absolutely not carry out. That is Man 101. You say some shit, you follow through with it. Anything less than that diminishes your value as a man.
You go and find someone when she doesn't empty them balls. That was a bluff you made with her, she called you on it, and you dropped the ball. You cannot bluff.
Here is what I would have done had I said that to a girl, and she didn't follow through:
I would have a) hit the bar for the evening to find a slut to nail b) called up a prostitue/call girl c) left for the 4-6 hours, crank one out in the parking lot at the mall, and leave her to think I'm actually dumping the load into some strange.
I don't even give a fuck what I do, as long as I appear to have followed through with my end of the statement. Because to do less implies she has the power in the relationship.
Is it a need for you to empty your balls? Do you allow someone else to dictate whether your needs get met?
FocalBox 10y ago
Yeah I see where you're coming from. Problem is I'm in a relationship with this girl. If I were to say this, that would mean I'm threatening to cheat on her or break up with her every single time we don't have sex.
That seems like an overexaggeration and seems butthurt when her reason was "not in the mood" or "another time". Am I just making excuses for her or should I really be that unforgiving and demanding?
I just don't see how this is the best way to go about it. Let's say I make and carry this threat, she complies and sucks me off. But she'd be doing it unwillingly and would give me a half-assed blowjob. She wouldn't be turned on -- which means I probably won't be turned on either. What's the point
dreckmal 10y ago
Ahh... okay. How often do you get some from your girl?
Also, what do you provide for this relationship? Do you two live together?
FocalBox 10y ago
Not a lot. Of the four months we've dated, less than ten times. This is mainly a logistical issue (we both live with our parents, her house is the only place we get to fuck). So perhaps this is a more relevant statistic: success rate is 80% whenever we are alone and I escalate.
She's receptive to my other sexual advances -- I play with her boobs in public (she tells me to stop but I just tickle her). Perhaps this is not an issue and I'm overthinking this, but it does suck a bit when I'm giving my sex for free, yet she's the one that decides whether to fuck or not. Whenever she does that I just withdraw my kino and work on something else in an understanding manner.
I provide my presence and my sex/validation. I don't pay for her meals (unless she has done something to reward me), I don't do much for her honestly. Meanwhile she's writing me cute cards and buying me things I need (e.g. she bought me some tea, a mug for said tea, and some stationary during exams).
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FocalBox 10y ago
She bitches about it every time I soft next her (which I often do simply because I'm busy and she's clingy)
Like I said its a logistical problem. I'm pretty sure I'd fuck her every time we hung out if we could. How do you suggest I fix the logistical problem? It's harder fucking in public
dreckmal 10y ago
Well, you gotta do what's right for you man.
Personally, I wouldn't promise exclusivity to someone unless they were willing to put out when I needed it. In reality, I have all but sworn to never promise that again anyway.
I don't see the reason to shackle myself to some girl and have my needs met at her fancy.
That's how the game works dude.
Male sex is free. She can literally go fuck any time she wants. You gotta earn it.
This is why TRP discusses spinning plates. The more women you have, the more options you have, the less you need this one girl to suck your dick.
FocalBox 10y ago
Should I tell her straight up that "if you want my exclusive commitment, then it's the least expectation for you to put out" or something like that?
Like I said, I don't want her to feel pressured sucking me off (would much rather she was enthusiastic about it). Power should be subtle, and not overbearing.
[deleted] 10y ago
I promise I'm not lying.
Chick was chilling outside the apartment. I walk out see her and her dog say what's up. She's waiting on her bf to get back but he's late.
I say something along the lines of that sucks. Come hang with me while you wait.
I shit you not , I get to the house we sit down and I say "You ever cheat on your boyfriend?"
She smirks and says yeah.
I pulled my dick out and she proceeded to blow me and fuck after.
She was a 7 at worst.
favours_of_the_moon 10y ago
You have to take it out.
https://youtu.be/hpwJE5DEk7U
SheepKing 10y ago
"Suck me."
FarOrAMess 10y ago
Last time I got head was for a girl I met the other day. We went out for a "date", 30 minutes and 1 beer later we're making out in the pub. Back to my house, we start making out again, and after some escalation I just looked her dead in the eye and told her "Show me what you know". Long story short, she got the hint.
Sepean 10y ago
I just stand close to my wife and unbutton my pants, she knows what to do.
Leviticus59 10y ago
Couple of weeks ago my wife and I went out to dinner. Sat there and relaxed for a few minutes afterward, kind of zoned out and all mellow.
"What are you thinking?" she asked. "I was thinking that when we get home I'm gonna stick my cock in your mouth." She giggled and said "I can do that."
Events transpired just as I told her it would. She's a good woman.
SkorchZang 10y ago
Avoid asking her for anything, that's not the red way to go. It's better to be declarative, whip out the general, smile at her and go with somethin' sultry like "this is where you suck my dick beautiful...". Another variation, short terse commands, mixed with affectionate touching from your hand: "down on your knees", "open wide", "close...ahhh yah, work it baby".
The idea is, just like getting the girl's number, you have 0 doubts or waverings in your mind that she wants to give it to you, and you aren't asking whether she wants to or what she wants to do. You tell her "I gotta go, so lemme get your number", already pulling out the phone. She can still say her "no" at any step of the way and stop your roll, but it's irrelevant and 95% of girls don't say no when she's already invested in you.
If your girl's a super dooper virgin for Jesus or some shit who "would never do it because it's dirty", just smile and convince her to "give it a kiss, just a small kiss". Not sure what's going on, but for some reason that cancels all the apprehension in a lot of women, and after the little kiss, soon enough she's happily blowing you like a whore.
FocalBox 10y ago
Love your comments, would really want it if you check out my post. I dislike being rejected for sex and I think it has to do with the way I'm conditioning my girlfriend and the way I go about it.
http://www.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/35xp32/conditioning_a_girlfriend_to_crave_and_initiate/
prodigyx 10y ago
I just whip it out. She usually knows what to do with it. If she backs off, well then you weren't going anywhere with her anyway.
thenarrrowpath 10y ago
I've seen people say that, but it doesn't make sense. You shouldn't have to ask for anything, you just start turning her on. Remember, they're a dial we're a switch, so slowly crank up the dial. I think the most that should be done is gently pushing down on her head toward your crouch. That seems to work for me, although I don't really care for BJs so I rarely go for them.
StarDestinyGuy 10y ago
Command her to give you a blowjob, don't ask
DickHeadSummationGuy 10y ago
Yea, my BJs come from one of two things:
[deleted] 10y ago
Exactly!
ThreeEyez 10y ago
command her how?
Big_ol_Bro 10y ago
Stick it in her face and say "suck my dick."
Sepean 10y ago
How did that get downvoted?
Big_ol_Bro 10y ago
Can't win em all
krustytheclown2 10y ago
LOL
Sepean 10y ago
Maybe people don't get that it isn't the commanding that is hard. It's the work you put into lifting and learning to hold frame. Once that's done, getting your dick sucked is easy.
Enzuq 10y ago
not even commanding, all i do
Look into her eyes, hold eye contact 5 sec. then turn my head to my dick, this results in 'she knows. i know. my dick knows. her pussy knows'.
redpilldude 10y ago
I don't ask for blowjobs. My approach is the Sex God method: be an extremely good looking Alpha that makes her wet and turned on just by looking at me. If she is really turned on by you, you don't have to ask for a blowjob; she will ask you if she can blow you.
ohsweetword 10y ago
There are two types of women in the world - those that love to suck cock, and the kind that aren't fun to date.
You shouldn't have to ask. I usually just use my body to get her there. If she doesn't want to suck your dick she either has hang-ups with cock, or she's probably not that into you.
skiier23 10y ago
yeah your friend is full of shit. put their hand down your pants when your dick is hard or halfway hard and theyll know whats up. thats what i do. literally been sitting on the couch w my gf and did that. worked. i only date girls who are pretty cool usually and not annoying cunts i want to kick in the face.
EDIT: i have only ever done this AFTER i've made out with a girl at some point in time throughout the history of knowing each other. i have never gone from plutonic directly to receiving blowjobs. however with said girls i've made out with (not at the same time, im not that cool) at some point through out the history of knowing each other, i have been hanging out with them, not kissed them, and gone straight to receiving a beej by putting their hand directly on my boner.
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This
daddy_war_bucks 10y ago
My short story...were laying in bed no sex because she on her dot
So I'm like fuck it go for it
Me: "give me a bj" trying not to sound like a bitch
Her: smiles "why?"
Me:fuck loss for words hurry and say something "don't give me a bj because I want you to do it because you want to"
Her:kisses me "but I've been working all day you're going to make me work more?"
Me:"no more kisses until I get a bj from you"
After that she tried forcing me to kiss her but once she knew I wasn't going to budge she ended up blowing me
Still can't believe that shit worked
P0eticJustice 10y ago
You held frame. That's why it worked. Good on you.
Kryonixc 10y ago
nice one
RocketManV 10y ago
So wait, did you guys go back to making out after she sucked your dick?
psycho-logical 10y ago
If you think this is somehow gay, you are actually the one in the closet.
RocketManV 10y ago
Just flicking some shit brah.
whatyearisthisagain 10y ago
Punctuation, motherfucker.
daddy_war_bucks 10y ago
I'm not going to do punctuation because you want me to I should be doing it because I want to....and I dont
yougonnagetit 10y ago
Even holds frame on the webz
daddy_war_bucks 10y ago
I only have one speed
jimbo7771 10y ago
And it's not reverse
TheThingsIThink 10y ago
Reverse is a range
YourShadowScholar 10y ago
You don't enjoy kissing?
Perhaps you suck at kissing.
ThreeEyez 10y ago
Nah not at all. If you go back I said I usually do kiss them. I just know of guys who say they don't really kiss chicks but still get them to blow them.
DjCbal 10y ago
The naked man. Works every time, one third of the time
projectself 10y ago
you have to escalate. you do not go from 0 to blowjob with a girl you just met. it doesn't work that way.
kino is the touch form of escalation. Look for the kino ladder if you are new to this, but basically it states that first you start easy, a touch on the arm, shoulder, back, then legs.. then isolate her, get her out of social light, your place, hers. Then go for the makeout. Once things heat up and clothes are coming off, you usually do not have to ask for the blowjob, it just happens.
Now, once you know a girl, and have fucked her a few times, you can tell her to come over and ask for it straight up. But even then, you do not just chill and ask. You set the tone as sexual, kiss her, push against the wall, kiss her harder. Then say something. or do something to "lead" the interaction.
You have to lead, it is your job to set the tone and pace. You must get her into a sexual frame of mind (yours), before this is natural.
I like,
"put my cock in your mouth" .. i also like to mind fuck girls on the first time they blow me. let them start and get going just a bit.. and stop them with "no, I do not want the same tired blowjob you gave your last boyfriend. get on your knees and suck my cock". talk about enthusiasm.
Uzinero 10y ago
Haha, that one actually made me laugh a little, that's pretty damn awesome, I'll have to try that at some point.
FocalBox 10y ago
I do this, but sometimes I get rejected because she is "not in the mood" or "too tired". Sometimes this is true, but how do I go about doing this afterwards?
Do I keep escalating and push through? Or do I nonchalantly go away and withdraw my attention to her.
This is talking about LTRs and a girl I've fucked multiple times.
RichieFinn 10y ago
Life isnt a fucking rap song.
Dudes can lie.
bertmaklinFBI 10y ago
"Put my cock in your mouth" -- it really is that simple.
Whipping it out and putting it in her face works too. They catch your drift.
RedCrayonWizard 10y ago
Step one: put your dick in a box...
Kenny_Twenty 10y ago
That's actually step 2
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Sepean 10y ago
She was just ASDing. All girls do it.
through_a_ways 10y ago
?
BPtoRP 10y ago
Anti-slut defense, she rejects your advances a bit just so you don't think she's a slut, even though deep down she wants to bite you.