What is this...how would you respond to that?
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johnnight 9y ago
~grin~ "What makes you think you are the one choosing?"
RiseAboveRuin 9y ago
I forget which RP article I got this from but this is a summary from somebody else's post that I read weekly to remind myself so I don't go soft:
Women are loved for who they are, men are loved for what they must become.
I am entitled to touch her body.
I am the god of my own little world. ---she may be here by choice, but she's also here because I allowed her to be.
She is worth just as little as the next slut. ---reminder of AWALT, abundance mentality, higher SMV, there are no unicorns.
I am here to have fun.
All women are sluts.
I'm going to walk away if I choose.
She is here at my whim.
UserNumber47 9y ago
Yeah, something like that. Came here to write "I'm here to find out if you deserve me. So far I'm not convinced (slight grin)" but the reply above is simpler
Danieltck 9y ago
?? ♂
CrazyHorseInvincible 9y ago
Flair point added on TRP.
COLIE53 9y ago
Have an up vote sir
smokingmonkey420 9y ago
Because she is??? Let's not kid ourselves here...
Edit: go ahead and downvote me but honest to god, take a second look at the top comment. Have fun in jail you fucking nit-wits.
Azevse 9y ago
Still Plugged In.
Check the sidebar on /r/TheRedPill.
smokingmonkey420 9y ago
Actually, that would be you pal. It's a well known biological fact that women are the selective species when it comes to sex. Don't let your delicate ego affect your rational thinking.
moonlandings 9y ago
You seem to have missed the whole point of "you are the prize." In any particular situation a single female may be the one deciding if there's sex going on, but it is ALWAYS the man deciding if there wi be commitment. Sex is cheap and easy to come by, so the man is being selective. Plus the aloof mindset is what a woman is biologically inclined to be attracted to. Go read and lurk more.
smokingmonkey420 9y ago
No, I completely get it. She's asking "why should I choose to have sex with you?" Rationalize it however you like but you are not the one who does the choosing here. She is and I can grant her that much respect.
I simply choose to not give a fuck. If asked that question, I would not give this defensive response which you are defending and the rest of the board up voted as the best comment.
I would simply laugh and ask her, "What kind of question is that?" Because it's a weird question to ask.
Go read the fucking sidebar.
cdtCPTret 9y ago
The idea seems to be to emulate someone who is so high value that he does do the choosing. And emulation as a path to actually becoming, to the point where you see every chick that's "doing the choosing" as another fatty who you could have in a second. Brad Pitt seems to be a popular example. If you had the SMV of Brad Pitt, what would you say? You'd laugh because it actually would probably be funny. But this is emulating his response to emulate his SMV. It's a technique.
smokingmonkey420 9y ago
It really doesn't matter how high the mans SMV is because when it comes to sex women always do the choosing. A woman still selects Brad Pitt for sex even if every other girl out there would do the same. Sure, in a roundabout way, Brad is doing his own version of selecting from the females, but it is still from the pool of females that have selected him first. If the woman does not select Brad Pitt, then there is no sex. That's just the way it is. Just get that through your thick heads, RP.
Furthermore, a woman would not say this to Brad Pitt. But if she did, in certain he would take it in stride or simply laugh and walk away. The last thing he would do is get defensive over it. If your not willing to do that then your just a fake and women can see right through it. Please, OP use this stupid ass comeback and let me know how it goes for you.
johnnight 9y ago
No. You are making a wrong generalization.
It's the attractive people that are choosing. There are millions of women out there, who get no sex because they are not attractive anymore or never were in the first place.
Both sides are choosing in the sense that having sex requires two sides to consent/want it. It's just that men are generally more horny and desperate. Women are also horny and desperate, but in a different way (not all the time, just for the right guy).
So, men's hornyness lowers their bargaining position and in most cases it's the woman, who get's to choose, but only because the man is already on a "Yes".
smokingmonkey420 9y ago
Ok, fair enough. I would agree that the partner has a higher SMV and less desperation would be the one doing the choosing, whether male or female. But there are still codes of conduct to follow and to say, "what makes you think you get to choose?" to a female is straight up retarded and asking to get your ass thrown in prison. That's really what I'm railing against here.
NahDudeFkThat 9y ago
in obvious frolic tone: "Don't flatter yourself, I'm not the marrying type."
Or "Don't flatter yourself, I'm gay"
Smirk and change subject while continuing to escalate things sexually.
If she's super serious even after that, she was just looking to use you as her Beta-Bux and you are to end that shit and go clap the bootycheekz of another hottie.
SilentForTooLong 9y ago
I always just immediately turn this around by laughing and saying, "What is it you think you are offering to me that is unique?"
Trust me, at least you will get a laugh out of it =)
forgetful_storytellr 9y ago
This is probably the best answer.
drqxx 9y ago
"Thats funny I was just about to ask you the same thing? Ladies first..."
RemyPrice 9y ago
Terrible.
foomfoomfoom 9y ago
Is that some kind of question you thought about and wrote down?
648262 9y ago
It's just a shit test. Agree and amplify, dodge it however you can, keep the mood funny.
mbillion 9y ago
I would tell her that is a personal decision she needs to make up for herself.
favours_of_the_moon 9y ago
Be like BECAUSE YOU'RE REALLY INTO SUCKING DICK.
crazydave1979 9y ago
I would probably just laugh..
It's not a fucking job interview
imgonnabethegreatest 9y ago
I'd laugh in her face and tell her I didn't know she was that funny.
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_eskimo_brothers_ 9y ago
I'd agree, but you have to continue to be just as aloof. If this is the only time you display something like this, and it doesn't match with the rest of your body language or actions she...what the fuck...
abcd_z are you me? TRP hive mind thing going on?
I still think I like the top reply more though: ~grin~ "What makes you think you are the one choosing?"
Air4ce1 9y ago
It's gotten to the point where I actually think it's genuinely funny.
smokingmonkey420 9y ago
I would just laugh and say, "I don't know. What kind of question is that?"
Stargazer34 9y ago
Laugh, genuinely, and then walk away. Not only would that win, you'd then be able to pump and dump her for the ultimate " fuck you slooor" revenge
cascadecombo 9y ago
The real question is, why does she deserve your time.
daveofmars 9y ago
"I ask myself the same question."
abcd_z 9y ago
Just off the top of my head: "You're right, I don't. You can go now."
Bear in mind that this has to be accompanied by the right body language and tonality. If you seem like you actually mean it you're sunk. But if you seem like you don't give a fuck what she thinks, one of two things will happen. Either she will leave (and really, if she's so gung ho on making you compete for her she wasn't worth your time anyways) or she'll stick around and accept that you won't be competing for her.
But then, I tend to screen out women with strong "princess" attitudes and keep the ones who enjoy pleasing me for the sake of pleasing me. Your mileage may vary.
marlybarrow 9y ago
I wouldn't.
You have to change your mentality from analysing women and trying to please them (which is what you are doing now) to doing what it is you enjoy and having fun.
In this case, I would lower my estimation of this woman and rule out any commitment or longterm relationship, then I'd spend the rest of the date doing whatever I wanted. I could try some experiments and see how she reacts, I could end the date and do something else, I could seduce her and have sex or I could just straight up mess with her head for no reason.
tldr; she has proven herself low value, don't give 2 shits about her opinion.
Vaganusaurus 9y ago
I'll help contribute to the cringe in this thread...
WhoIsOBrien 9y ago
"Don't choose.
Spend time with me and if you are happy, stay. If someone else makes you happy stay with him. Now, why should I choose you?"
JackGoldsteinWrites 9y ago
Too weak. You have to work from the frame of "she would be crazy to even ask."
ben0wn4g3 9y ago
Because I'm the only one wondering why I should choose you..
skoobled 9y ago
"great, you just saved me some time. Need to do my washing tonight anyway. See ya"
RemyPrice 9y ago
You're going to eject from a date over a simple shit test?
skoobled 9y ago
Got a better response?
RemyPrice 9y ago
Are you new? See the top of the thread; best responses get upvoted to the top. Welcome to Reddit!
www777com 9y ago
What would a real person do? Well it's not the guy's job to figure out why a woman should choose him, it's the woman's job. "Why should you choose me? That's your job to figure it out, not mine." Her mind will be like, well he's got a point that's real.
Does any real person DESERVE another? "As to why I think I deserve you. I think that's a bad way of looking at dating. Nobody DESERVES anybody. I'm just on this date to have fun. If I end up having a lot of fun, I'd want to continue having fun in the future. If I'm not having fun, I move on. If you're not having fun, we move on."
Vulturo 9y ago
Logically this is sound, but logic is not what what is needed here. As a rule, never 'explain yourself', and try avoiding long sentences. Simply laughing is better.
www777com 9y ago
Agreed. Though this is logic, that's not what I'm doing here. My intention is not to explain to her logically. I'm merely saying this is what any real person would do. My life experience is this is the most effective way to talk to a woman. They may not listen to logic but they will listen to and understand what any real person would do. It's holding frame. My frame is to have fun. I didn't waver from that. My frame is to see if I should choose her--not figure out if she should choose me. If a woman asked me why I did something, the most effective thing I can say if it's genuine is because I really wanted too. This is more effective than any logical justification I were to provide.
Also my suggestion is in the context of when the conversation is serious. If we're having a serious conversation and I resort to agree and amplify, I become a clown, a court jester--always clowning around and never turning it off. If the context was light and playful, I'd do a agree and amplify or some sort of teasing.
Sepean 9y ago
She'll hear "As to why I think I deserve you. I think that's a ..." I should go the bathroom and check Tinder "...blah blah..." his jaw looks weird, good jaws are important "...you're not having fun..." huh? was I talking?
The-Pussy-Whisperer 9y ago
This.
Most women aren't equipped for logical relationship arguments.
www777com 9y ago
In the context of a serious conversation, she'll hear me holding frame. See my comment to Vulturo.
Aiadon 9y ago
I didn't choose you, you chose me.
laserdicks 9y ago
Laugh. Because she thinks she's the prize. "Why did I choose you over other men?" possibly followed up with/alternatively "Joseph Gordon-Levit was thirsty but seemed too high maintenance."
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I'd honestly cackle like she said the funniest thing in the world. And once I'd finished I'd either ask about something else and ignore it, or ask about what makes her worth choosing.
evilquesadilla 9y ago
I don't have any better response than the top one. I would probably have said something like "you already did, I'm here" or something, which isn't as good.
With that said, that's a very shitty thing to say. It speaks volumes about what kind of person she is.
2ndLion 9y ago
"I dont, i deserve better" some level og entitlement to say shit like that seriously. IMO next, or Amused Mastery (Because I am the better) and preasure flip (Turn the question around)
Birdoftruth 9y ago
IME, while I don't like making generalizations, Amused Mastery is usually the optimal way of treating everything but the most disrespectful of shit tests/comments a girl can make. You just really aren't phased by anything. These people here suggesting to leave or make some serious snide remark are taking her remarks too seriously. It's just a shit test and a girl that needs to be bumped down a notch.
There's a time for hard game, and it's not for some silly nonsense like this.
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smokingmonkey420 9y ago
She does though?
RemyPrice 9y ago
Jeeeeez, you're so blue.
smokingmonkey420 9y ago
You can keep your stupid remarks to yourself and tell me how I'm wrong?
RemyPrice 9y ago
Welcome to Reddit. I'm free to say whatever I damn well please, douche nozzle.
smokingmonkey420 9y ago
Yeah, so am I. You didn't answer the question.
RemyPrice 9y ago
Someone already did, and you argued with them. GTFO and go read the sidebar.
smokingmonkey420 9y ago
Seriously though, your gonna respond with "like you get to choose." Have fun in jail you fucking nitwit.
RemyPrice 9y ago
Blah blah blah. Lay off the weed, it's affected your brain.
smokingmonkey420 9y ago
Yeah, but I'm right. So go fuck yourself.
RemyPrice 9y ago
"Everybody disagrees with me - can't you see I'm right?"
(smokingmonkey420, 2015)
fnordsnord 9y ago
Wow. She gets a LOT of attention from men. More than she needs.
Shooting from the hip: ignore the question and continue the previous thread of the conversation.
Second choice: Raised eyebrow. Pause. Continue the previous thread of the conversation or change the subject.
Third choice: Raised eyebrow. "We think a lot of ourselves, don't we?" Change the subject.
Forth choice: Laugh in her face. Ask her to qualify why she's worthy of ME.
rickaboy 9y ago
I wouldn't answer it seriously. I'd just make the first dumb joke that came to my mind and laugh it off. But I wouldn't give it the dignity of a serious response.
[deleted] 9y ago
OP, read /u/marlybarrow's comment and then go read Rollo Tomassi's mental point of origin post.
bumblingbuck 9y ago
Never get angry at this. Agree and amplify / amused mastery. Re-frame to point out you're choosing / not sure about here / etc.
This only came up once, so YMMV. I met a girl through friends who was throwing shit test left and right on the first date. At one point she started listing the things she's looking for in a bf, basic requirements. It was snowflake stuff as you'd expect. I actually started giggling, asked her how many guys are willing to actually listen to this stuff. Glanced at my phone once. Her entire demeanour changed to trying to prove herself, tried to play it off like she was joking... awalt.
thor_away92 9y ago
"I think you meant to ask why should YOU deserve me sweetheart"
Vryk0lakas 9y ago
No need for sweetheart here.
forgetful_storytellr 9y ago
I think he was going more for the patronizing sweetheart rather than the lovey dovey one. You know, the one where you pat her on the head.
thor_away92 9y ago
Once you fully swallow the pill you quickly learn how to deliver the name sweetheart like a full blown jackass. And is highly effective. Toots, sweet-pea, cherry pie, and doll face are all pet names that can be used in a dick context. Keep learning buddy :)
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thor_away92 9y ago
"Who's talking about ownership?"
vandaalen 9y ago
Laugh, throw five bucks for the coffee on the table and leave without another word. Who would want to deal with such a bitchy cunt?
I'd also bet another five bucks that she'll text you later.
RemyPrice 9y ago
Gold.
blacwidonsfw 9y ago
You forgot having to be at least be over 40. In 24 and if I said this it would be so cringey.
thor_away92 9y ago
Ladies don't find class cringey lol
blacwidonsfw 9y ago
saying shit like honey and sweet heart are not classy. maybe in the south if you are 40+ and wear a cowboy hat and drive a dodge durango. Or if you are a homosexual bottom.
thor_away92 9y ago
Lol hey man i use those words and my dick gets wet. Dunno why you gotta be afraid to try new social experiments.
Keep at it :)
Vryk0lakas 9y ago
Yeah sorry but calling someone sweetheart and all these names is just too douchey for me. I have fully embraced the pill thats just not a technique i need or want.
GregariousWolf 9y ago
Terms like creep and douche are shaming words femmes use to get men to self-censor. You'll never get anywhere with women by nodding respectfully towards them. You're missing out of a huge emotional range by excluding lighthearted or sarcastic terms of endearment from your vocabulary. Learn to embrace your inner douchebag.
thor_away92 9y ago
Okay well these words get me laid. Lmk how not using these words works for ya.
RemyPrice 9y ago
Me too. I also call them "love".
Hey love, get over here and sit on my lap. Etc.
Vryk0lakas 9y ago
Meh if it works for you that great use them. Me personally I dont feel they are necessary. I get plenty of action without them. Everyone is different so they have to figure out what works for them and play to their strengths.
Hippostalker 9y ago
Ask yourself how would you respond to the same question from a child.
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RemyPrice 9y ago
Eject over a simple shit test?
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RemyPrice 9y ago
Good luck with that.
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RemyPrice 9y ago
Hardly a virgin when I'm spinning 6 plates in two cities. But good try!
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RemyPrice 9y ago
Congrats! Have a cookie.
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RemyPrice 9y ago
Ouch, my feels. "He gets laid a lot so let's tell him it's TOO MUCH!" What a great comeback.
Isn't that kinda like "You're too skinny! Nobody wants to see all 8 abs!"
94redstealth 9y ago
My first instinct is to just laugh. Depending on how hot she is compared to me I would upscale the reaction. If she had a noticeable higher SMV than me, I would probably laugh obnoxiously loud and then get up an leave without saying a word.
The-Pussy-Whisperer 9y ago
"It's you who are being chosen"
blimp11 9y ago
im glad you mentioned that because I had been wondering the same about you this whole time.
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RemyPrice 9y ago
You're in anger phase. Don't worry, it doesn't last forever.
rem0nster 9y ago
"you figure that shit out"
Super-Saiyajin 9y ago
Respond with "Is this a job interview?"
Vaganusaurus 9y ago
The only thing any non-socially retarded person would say would be something like this. Tactfully and SLIGHTLY indignant/faux confused(aloof).
Birdoftruth 9y ago
This comment and the response from /u/imgonnabethegreatest are the only two comments that demonstrate amused mastery. The other ones here are too serious of a response. Remember, you aren't phased by what she's saying. It should just be funny to you and you should be playful right back. Getting up and leaving just because a girl threw an obvious shit test is way too reactive. WTF is up with people here taking this game so seriously. When she does something like this it's not personal and it's not disrespectful. Treat it as a joke.
Super-Saiyajin 9y ago
Exactly! A shit test is exactly what it sounds like. She is "testing" your frame. If you waiver/fail/break frame even a LITTLE BIT you lose!
SilentForTooLong 9y ago
Lots of women legitimately view dates as interviews haha And they will literally just say "yes" point blank. Better to just flip it around on them.
Vaganusaurus 9y ago
Not mindfully they don't. While many women will act as if it were; only the ultra-cunts that constant post saying as much on social media will ever be straight-forward about it.
SilentForTooLong 9y ago
Mindfully?... I don't know how that word is supposed to function there.
Well, at least the ultra-cunts are honest I guess lol
Vaganusaurus 9y ago
Mindfully as in they are aware of their behaviors, their intent, and sometimes how it'll appear to others. Kind of a play on mindful and mindfulness.
Just because a woman is interviewing you, it is foolish to think that she is aware of her doing it.
The kind of women self-aware of their intent (for this particular thing atleast) that'd be cocky enough be so straightforward are dangerous.
SilentForTooLong 9y ago
I think you just want to use "mindful" though, not "mindfully". I guess maybe I'm being too persnickety...
I only like to date self-aware women if I can help it.
I find such straight-forward women the least dangerous of all women. I like women with whom you know exactly what you are getting. Compared to most women, it's a huge relief.
Vaganusaurus 9y ago
It's not proper but it can more effectively illustrated my point in less words. I was clearly not talking about good-natured introspective women.
I implore you to work back down through this comment thread under the premise that most women aren't cunts through and through.
SilentForTooLong 9y ago
English isn't your first language is it?
Vaganusaurus 9y ago
no
3rt41 9y ago
"You just proved me i shouldn't choose YOU over other women. I don't like to date self-entitled princesses, so this date is over."
Put some overkill amount of dollars to top the bill (if you are at a bar or restaurant for example), stand up, leave
unsafeword 9y ago
I don't understand what you mean to accomplish with that response. Help me understand your reasoning?
3rt41 9y ago
I wouldn't waste my time for some entitled bitch throwing away those lines, so i would cancel the date on the spot.
unsafeword 9y ago
I get moving on, but the extra splash of cash and the lecture confuse me.
3rt41 9y ago
That's what i would do to feel ok with paying my part of the bill and to remark my power over her. Iam not saying it's the best thing to do, it's what i would do
SilentForTooLong 9y ago
Nah, fuck that, just storm off and let her pay the bill for offending you. Let her get a taste of her own entitlement.
skoobled 9y ago
Storming off is a loss of frame. Smirk, cocky James bond style comment, get up to leave. Hold tight for the hamster storm
ben0wn4g3 9y ago
What would James Bond say?
I'm thinking something along the lines of 'you'll have to wait and find out..' 'smile'
SilentForTooLong 9y ago
Storm off was the wrong choice of word. You are correct.
Though it can help to move fast so as to evade the inevitable cop calling.
skoobled 9y ago
Definitely make to leave immediately