Cringe-worthy situation here.
There are 6 of us living in a 2 floor apartment, 4 guys downstairs, 2 girls upstairs. We AirBnB out a room on our floor to save rent. Us guys are all college friends.
One of the guys, who we'll call T, was in a LTR with a girl who we'll call A. Together for 3 years partway through college, things fell apart when she went overseas for 6 months and suggested having an open relationship. T being a dummy went along with it, and you can guess what happened overseas. They had a "soft breakup" upon her return.
Now she's back in our home country, going to start a graduate program, and needs a place to stay. She finds somewhere, is there for a month, then out of fucking nowhere, moves in with us! Even after much discussion between the roommates, where we tell him it's a terrible idea, he moves her upstairs into a free room, which we could have also posted on AirBnB for more money / cheaper rent.
T made the following case: 1) she used to live here a few years ago and we should do something nice for her, 2) she's been having "serious family issues" (wouldn't tell us what) and we should help her out. Reason #3 became apparent in one of our bro moments: he thinks he has a >50% chance of getting back with her.
So she moves in with the implication of needing somewhere till September, we're pissed, T promises (lol) to make these roommate decisions together and re-evaluate in September. T has lived in the apartment the longest and has the longest relationship with the landlords, though my other friend is on the lease. At least A isn't on the lease.
Now here's where it gets fucked. This girl has NO intentions of getting back with T, and every intention of using him for resources. Here are the facts:
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She told our other mutual female friend that she's "really excited about the cheap rent [living with us and T]".
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In a surprise turn of events, she has started AirBnB'ing out her room and making money while she's not there -- which was our original intention! In fact she's going soon for a month and a half and won't even be back until September, which is when we're supposed to re-evaluate, and I know the rest of us will vote to kick her out.
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To accomodate for her AirBnB guests, she has borrowed T's mattress. (he's on business out of town most of this summer). Betas gonna bux.
- But wait, maybe she's warming up to T and his nice gestures? Nope, we have seen and heard her bring other guys home up to her room. While she has T's mattress still.
This girl is literally cucking our apartment: having other guys over with T's mattress up there, and making extra money for herself that we were supposed to make on the recently vacant room. Not only that, but she's talked to one of our mutual female friends (who doesn't like A btw, because she's so secretive) about moving in one of A's friends into our bottom floor guest room! Bitch gonna take over this apartment soon.
Back in May T just moved her in and left out of town for business, so it's not like we've had open lines of communication either. We're supposed to have a roommate skype meeting in a few days to discuss September arrangements (T and one other guy are out of town).
We've told him about being taken advantage of in the past before he moved her in. At this point I think we need to straight up tell him she's fucking other guys on his mattress while he subsidizes her rent. But I think being too extreme won't take with him.
Me and at least one other roommate would move out, however the setup we have is really cheap, we're living downtown in a large city core at a price point that would make most people mad. But our little utopia is getting fucked by this girl, or moreover, by T's longstanding one-itis. BTW we know almost for sure that he hasn't gotten with any other girls since their soft breakup (about a year ago).
What would you guys advise us to do/tell T? Cheers.
AEther_Flux 8y ago
She isn't on the lease, your friend is gone. I'd kick her ass out, plain and simple. When your friend comes back you tell him why you kicked her out. If he doesn't agree, tough shit. If he is acting this simple and childish then he needs to be taught a lesson, better yet that lesson come sooner than later.
thr0waway6824 8y ago
Here is an update on the lease situation, there are 4 people on the lease.
T is on the lease, and my bro is on the lease. Then there's one previous tenant who is subletting to A on T's recommendation (he moved out in May). Then there's the other girl upstairs who is about to move out in September. This means A is technically sub-sub-leasing, jesus... We're supposed to have a call this weekend to sort out the new lease scenario (since 2 people are leaving), I bet that fuck is gonna try and put A on the lease.
Anyways, I'm very wary of any legal drama. If I kick her out (change the locks, put her stuff on the curb, etc), she might call the police, and then it's some guys vs. a damsel in distress. Where you do see that going?
The other mitigating factor is T's friendship, 7+ years man. Been through college together, worked together, etc. Though I am continually losing respect, I suppose this is a part of seeing things through the red lenses.
RidleySmith 8y ago
He is an anchor. Cut him loose. Rule 12: avoid the unhappy and the unlucky: do not die another man's death (that isn't the rule, but it's something like that)
redtingle 8y ago
You say you have respect for your friend but you treat him like a bitch. Why are you letting him get cucked? Why are you averse to telling him the truth? Why are you even thinking that this ccing twat might get on the lease? Because of T's fucking feelz. If he is a man and your friend then treat him like it. Tell him the truth and hope he has the balls to do the right thing and cut this bitch off like a gangrenous limb.
AEther_Flux 8y ago
I have had the police side with a chick I was living with, thus allowing her to keep my stuff in her storage unit. But you still have to try, and you do have legally binding contracts saying that she has no claim to stay there. As for your friendship, sometimes you have to leave people behind on the way to the top.
ansiz 8y ago
I would consider checking with a lawyer to make clear renter's rights, print all the necessary documentation out in advance. Make sure everything in cut and dry as far as that goes.
Next, notify the police what you are doing, I suppose in writing as well (?). If you do your homework on renter's rights then the police should back you up before you even get started.
clint_bronson 8y ago
Exactly. Not sure what's stopping the OP from literaly kicking her out. Move her stuff outside the apartment ask for her keys and make her wash off the cum stains from T's matress.
TurgidMeatWand 8y ago
I'd check with a lawyer first, change the locks sure, but it doesn't take much to be considered a legal resident of a property, putting her stuff outside could get OP slapped with willful destruction of property charges.
AEther_Flux 8y ago
I'd personally burn the mattress, then take him to buy him a new one to help reconcile. I have a feeling T might need something to look forward to as he deals with all of this.
clint_bronson 8y ago
Burn after she's done washing it.
flatox 8y ago
What the fuck? You already know what you have to do, it's obvious from your post.
You dont need confirmation from here to do what you feel needs to be done. Just do it.
favours_of_the_moon 8y ago
She's getting tingles from the sense of power she has over him. The mindrape excites her and swells her pretty little head.
Maybe kick out T and keep her. Probly the only way he's gonna wake up. And make demands of her. Make her contribute.
Whiskytoast 8y ago
kick T the fuck out
Hamilton5M 8y ago
Do you have a contract? Evict him.
Incaahhh 8y ago
Why is a girl that isn't on a lease being allowed to independently rent out a room?
You guys need to get your shit together
Brave_Horatius 8y ago
She's not on the lease, get the named lease holder on side and kick her ass out.
bsutansalt 8y ago
Is she on the lease? If not, out she goes. Put her stuff in storage and when she gets back notify her she's no longer welcome. Personally i'd give her a heads up not to AirBB anyone from this point forward, and if anyone shows up for "their room" tough titties and that'll fall back on her standing with the website.
thenarrrowpath 8y ago
Its the 16th and your other friend is on the lease. Give her a 45 day notice to vacate the premises. Make sure said notice is in writing and give it to her in person and via email. I hope you guys made her pay a deposit, but I doubt it. Also contact Air BnB and tell them to remove any posts regarding your apartment for the time being. Give them her details and tell her she has no authority to sub sub let the room to anyone.
rebuildingMyself 8y ago
Move to kick her out in September. If T disagrees, then move to kick him out as well
clint_bronson 8y ago
Why won't you kick her out?
machimus 8y ago
First of all, it's not cucking if they're not actually together. Look at him-he's her orbiter now.
Second, she has no legal basis for renting out her room and any permission-based basis is YOUR fault as a roommate. It's as much your and the other's fault as it is his for allowing it.
Get together with your other roomies and vote her out, veto your shitty friend, he's not of sound mind to make decisions.
balalasaurus 8y ago
Tell the landlord. She can't lease out a room without being on the lease. And fuck friendship with T. He made this decision without considering his friends. Why should you?
drrtyfrrnr 8y ago
I see a clear lack of leadership here - you guys make the decisions by committee and 3 of you aren't enough to override one guy doing whatever he wants?
Seems like you're getting cuckolded not by A but by your friend.
RealGucciSosa 8y ago
Kick out T first. Then A will follow.
Talk to the other guys about them both since T is obviously not competent, being that he brought on this whole quagmire. If you can convince the others, then approach T that either we kick out A, or you go out as well. His name isn't on the lease, its another friend. So you're good.
Asoka11111 8y ago
She fucked with your cash flow. Never, ever, ever take that lying down. Connect your foot to her ass and give her a free trip to the streets.
RidleySmith 8y ago
Plot against her and him covertly by casually bringing it up with the other housemates in such a way that will encourage them to get rid of the girl and maybe the guy too.
Confronting a guy who has overdosed on blue pill is basically impossible and therefore useless. Gotta wait until he's ready, which he ain't.
Gotta hand it to her, that is one clever bitch for pulling this off.
Alternatively, use all your RP charms to fuck the girl and then use the ensuing shitstorm to get the girl and the guy out of the house. (Or not, lol)
leftajar 8y ago
How can this dumbass unilaterally move in his fucking ex-girlfriend?
What is this, a T dictatorship?
JimHarding 8y ago
Sounds like they are all getting cucked
1NV0K3R 8y ago
It's actually 100% illegal for her to rent out a room if she is not on the lease.
thr0waway6824 8y ago
Using AirBnB doesn't make a difference?
1NV0K3R 8y ago
No, as in legal terms she is "sub-leasing" which the lease will deem legal and/or illegal depending on where you are.
Pulled from a google result on sub-leasing. AKA, if you don't own the property and aren't on the lease (and in some cases even if you ARE on the lease), you can get fucked. From the sound of it though the landlords are chill with your friend so they don't care.
But she doesn't know that.
truchisoft 8y ago
No it does not.
RemyPrice 8y ago
If you wait too long, she'll have squatters rights.
Man up, grab your balls, and tell her she has three days to GTFO.
walkingthelinux 8y ago
Install "security" cameras and sell to pornhub/whatever. Maintain frame. Profit.
Put that hamster on a wheel; hook up wheel to pulley; hook up pulley to generator. Free electricity. Profit.
RPAlternate42 8y ago
Might as well throw in:
walkingthelinux 8y ago
For better efficiency, you can combine 1&2. But yes, this is a valid business model.
It's kind of like solar power - making $$$ off of the way the world works.
RPAlternate42 8y ago
And the guys would pay because... I didn't know she was a hooker... but since I'm here already... well, I might as well pay.
walkingthelinux 8y ago
Sunk cost fallacy
RidleySmith 8y ago
No it's not.
thr0waway6824 8y ago
While absolutely hilarious, I am not going to risk doing anything illegal.
walkingthelinux 8y ago
Authority8 8y ago
Is this for real?
walkingthelinux 8y ago
Sorry, my commentary is not very autism-friendly.
bsutansalt 8y ago
In some states yes, in others it's a bit of a grey area.
NidStyles 8y ago
Grey areas are still legal until they write a law defining it.
Authority8 8y ago
Lock her out lock her out lock her out or set up a camera for next time she has guys over.... Would be entertaining as fuck to watch next time all the guys are together!!
wiking85 8y ago
Kill her and feed her body to pigs. Its the only sane solution /s
Interversity 8y ago
You say it sarcastically, but...
wiking85 8y ago
Air B&B her pussy