So I’ve been seeing this chick for awhile now, since early January, and she’s pretty great. At first we’d only fuck on the weekends and not really hang out, but the sex has steadily increased and we hang out/talk pretty much everyday now. I’ve been pretty much fucking her twice a day for like 3 weeks now, so that’s pretty steady. At first I had other girls but I’ve seen them less and less as I’ve gotten more than enough sex.
Because we hang out so much, I’ve been thinking of upgrading her to a LTR, but something happened 2 weekends ago that is pretty sketch. She went to a date party with her friend, her boyfriend and her boyfriends best friend. She said she’d come over after if she wasn’t too drunk, but obviously she was and stayed at the guys house and said they defintely didn’t fuck but she wasn’t sure if she sucked his dick or not.
Obviously this is hugely sketch, but she’s been very transparent about pretty much everything since we’ve been talking and told me when she got blackout and fucked some guy right when we first started talking, even though we weren’t exclusive and she had 0 incentive to tell me. We also weren’t exclusive when this happened, and still technically aren’t, even tho she said she has 0 desire to fuck any other guys.
She got super upset and started crying saying she feels ashamed she puts herself in this position (super Christian) and that she feels sick to her stomach because she said if she got a little more drunk she might’ve fucked him, which wasn’t what she wanted.
Given that she’s been super open, should I believe her? And even if she did fuck another guy, should I really care if it didn’t mean anything? The sex is consistent, she’s easily an 8+ and pretty awesome in all other ways. I feel like I should care more about the fact she pretty much certainly fucked this guy, but I’ve had drunken hookups I really regretted so I kinda sympathize, although it does feel like a breach of trust somewhat even though we weren’t exclusive.
How should I play this?
LongBeachBlackTips 5y ago
Girls know if they’ve sucked a dick. They don’t forget that thing. She knows what she did and is afraid to come clean which is why she’s playing the “I can’t remember” card.
Chances are, she probably fucked him too. But figures telling you she can’t remember if she sucked his dick will soften the blow whilst also allowing her to hamster the fact that she HAS told you about it. You could even give her the benefit of the doubt and say maybe she can’t remember if she sucked his dick. But she will remember the pounding he gave her.
This. Is. A. Red. Flag.
She has just shown herself as not worthy of LTR status. Keep her as a plate but stop investing so much in her.
Spin other plates again. Do not LTR this girl.
FrgElder 5y ago
Keep her as a plate, no point to upgrade to LTR material.
Although she did absolutely nothing wrong in this situation, she's just not LTR material. Any girl/plate you are vetting for an LTR position should be into you enough that they're willing to not hook up with other guys while they work for your commitment. If they're engaging other guys and considering other options (most girls do), they're best to be kept as plates only. Upgrading them to an exclusive relationship is a fools errand.
She seems like a good plate, honest and upfront. But she should never be more than a plate. You don't have to next her though.
As a side point, make considerable effort in the next few weeks to hook up with other girls. If she is your only 'plate' (she's not a true plate if she's your only option), then you're already in a vulnerable position. Keep her around, but focus more on locking down other plates in the mean time.
userunknown89 5y ago
Imagine your friend comes up to you and says "yeah man this girl I'm fucking sucked off another guy the other day, should I make her my girlfriend? "
Continue fucking, while looking for more women. After you have a couple more drop this bitch and never talk to her again. If you make her an LTR, this is your future.
yettymonkey 5y ago
She kissed him, more then likely sucked his dick and would not surprise me if she fucked him and is giving you hints in order to ease her hamster. If you LTR this chick then you are just setting yourself up for long term failure and not to mention wasting time/resources. You guys have only been hanging out for a few months for God's sake and you already want to LTR her?!?!? WTF... Go rub 1 or 2 out today, meditate on what the fuck you just said and then look at from the outside. You will cringe at your Beta/soy boy behavior. Also she is not super Christian... That is her way of protecting her "purity" and not wanting to take responsibility for past actions when she finds a suitable mate to latch onto lol. Bet all the tea in China if you had access to her email/phone for an hour your mouth would be hanging open like a 5 dollar whore after a gang bang. This is what you need to do (if you are man enough is the question). SOFT NEXT! Hit the gym 4 days a week (get on a program). Meditate/get some hobbies because you are NOT RED PILL right now. You are barely above that of a simp.... But go ahead and be Captain Save A Hoe and see your world burn down around you though out the rest of this year......
CainPrice 5y ago
If you have to work as hard as you're working to bend over backward, scrunch up your forehead, squint your eyes, hold your nose, and stick your fingers in your ears to make this woman seem like good girlfriend material, maybe you should quit working so hard wracking your brain and just accept that she's not good girlfriend material.
It seems like you like her and she likes you, so don't lead her on or lie to her. Just tell her that you like her and you enjoy your time together, but you're not looking for anything serious right now and want to keep things casual.
Say it very matter-of-fact, as though it's something you've said to a hundred different girls. And say it like you just expect her to go along with it and like most women go along with it. You're not asking. You're just saying how things are as though this is the normal situation between guys and girls and she should already know that.
max_peenor 5y ago
The answer to this question is always no. If a woman feels compelled to tell you a story, then that's what you are getting--a story. Believe what you see. Believe what makes sense. Believe what you piece together from their behavior. If nothing happened, she wouldn't need to open her mouth to help modulate how she feels.
ALWAYS bullshit. That's not to every woman is fated to fuck other men, but there will always be a set of circumstances that would lead to it.
Alejandroses 5y ago
>she said she has 0 desire to fuck other guys.
I remember when I said that to a girl once, that I had 0 desire to fuck other girls. I was lying, just like we all were.
frick-a-frack 5y ago
“Definitely didn’t fuck but not sure if she sucked his dick.”
Wow. That’s not even a good excuse.
1) Of course she sucked his dick if she said this.
2) She fucked him also.
3) She probably swallowed his cum.
But, in her quick-as-fuck-thinking excuse, the “Can’t remember” part is for the future. When it comes to light, she didn’t say “it didn’t happen.” These semantics are very important.
She’s already kissing you with another man’s seed still freshly in her mouth. LTR? Really?
Alejandroses 5y ago
Nah. Shes just a plate now.
It looks to me like you are making excuses for her. Your gut knows the real answer already. Shes not girlfriend material. If you had to come ask Red Pill it's because you already know. Keep having sex and honestly she put the ball on your side of the court because now you have the power. Now the real question is what you do with it.
Personally I would keep her as a plate. Continue to have sex and if she ever brings up relationship shit I'd just say I am not ready. Maybe hit her with "I dont think youre ready either. We both still go out and perform sexual activities with other people-" yadda yadda.
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DO.NOT.LTR. Shes super sad about it now but that wont stop her from jumping on the next dick she finds attractive. Girls are temporary.
Cloak_and_Rose 5y ago
Why would you even LTR a girl like this?