There's a TL;DR at bottom so no commenting who else didnt read this shit
I have good genes, 6'3", 190lbs rn, blond hair that I work on, been working out no abs yet, still have braces (get them asap you don't want fucked teeth) and I just got a pretty short haircut but I am going to work on a flow like a NHL or lacrosse player.
Now here I am I am going to jerk myself off but hopefully you guys realize I am actually retarded.
I've had sex with 7 people, 1 in college and the other 6 in high school. I was 230lbs in HS so I was pretty big and never lifted. Whenever I did have sex I was always super beta lmao one time I came so fast I said sorry oh my God.
The only time I ever initiated contact was when I had a gf for like 1week (fucked quite a few times but i broke up with her because right when I started dating this bitch who knew I liked her seriously throughout hs tried to get with me so I did)
Even then I hung out with that girl for like a full day before kissing her or anything then finally one of my friends just said start making out with her thje fuck her so I did and it was that easy.
But holy shit I am so confused now I literally don't know what to do. I get quite a bit of attention from girls now and I am actually retarded when I try to talk to them.
One example: I rode an elevator with this girl I've never seen who lives on the same floor as me and she recognized me apparently but I've never seen her. She tried to make small talk and I started talking and my voice cracked and it literally just stopped working and I said "I am sorry I don't well with this" and then she laughed a little and said, "haha me neither" then the elevator door opens and I just left. It sucks too because we are sort of bored and even if I decided I didn't want to fuck her I do want more female friends. I just want them around idk if I feel like it would boost my esteme or what. I have heard that men and women can't just be friends though. That's besides the point I was a fucking moron in that convo.
Another time at a club this one girl came up to me and touched my arm and asked my name and I told her and then I saw a friend of mine get there and we went to get drinks. After I got the drink I went back to the dance floor and she was with a group of her friends so I went and danced with them by myself leaving my friends. This other girl was showing extreme attraction and the two girls who were showing attraction started to twerk on each other and use a pole like a stripper pole (once they left a few more girls got around the pole and had fun lmao). I didn't escalate or touch or anything I didn't know who to go for or what, then I left the dance group and as I was walking away this girl comes up and slaps my ass and then runs back to her friends.
This is obviously attraction but I am retarded I way over think things and I use logic literally all the time and I can't communicate with women.
TL;DR: Former betas turned Chads, how did you handle a massive increase in smv? Any books you read that help? How did you learn to physically escalate? Just by not being a pussy?
I am going out this next Tuesday with 4 friends of mine (I usually go out alone because i am bored and I feel that outs me at a disadvantage)
My group of friends I am going out with is actually really clean and good looking, so I feel like this will increase my smv. I will bring somebody back and fuck them I just need some fucking anecdote from somebody or something idk I am way too scared to act the way I can.
INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
Bang, by Roosh. Haven't read it yet, it's next on my list. However, I've heard pretty good things about it.
You need to get an understanding of frame, IDGAF, teasing, push-pull, disqualifying.
I was similar way back. I didn't have any major anxiety or shit like that, I just literally was like 'I don't know what to say'.
After reading stuff on the sidebar, like 'utilize push pull' 'how to tease bitches' 'how to get laid like a warlord' etc, and a lot about frame. I developed tools.
I also read 'The Art Of Seduction', by Avery Hayden (who posts on the main sub). You can google a pdf of it. After reading all that, I actually had an idea of what I was doing. Eventually it became internalized, now my game is pretty tight.
The main thing is, is gaining an understanding of dynamic/attraction, and learning how to use your words and actions so you're always creating attraction and escalating.
Get to reading and keep improving.
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BigFeetBigDick 5y ago
You read any books at all? Sounds like you worked on your appearance which is awesome, but you need to work on your basic social skills instead of anything special really.
Peshquabz 5y ago
I reread this once a year
mrmaldoror 5y ago
You need to come up with a trigger word for yourself.
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When in those situations you need to tell yourself "just do it".
"I don't give a shit"
"Who cares"
"YOLO"
And I find the opposite is true when going out, always slay by myself and as I add more people (guys) the less my chances are.
MantogeMan 5y ago
My friends are sissies but they are well kept and dec ntly attractive so I don't think they would take anything away, but you are right they might but I feel so weird going alone to places sometimes.
mrmaldoror 5y ago
My rule is to maximise for fun when with the boys, when I want to really get laid I go by myself.
iLLprincipLeS 5y ago
Think of them as nothing but cumdumpsters. You are not their first, not their last. Don't approach a female thinking she will be your next girlfriend OR friend.
BradTheGymRat 5y ago
Former beta with the same issues you experienced.
What i did that boosted my game was i got a wing and we talked to girls(he approached more of them at the bar, i followed him), afterwards when i got back home i wrote down those 3 things:
What i did good, what i did bad & what could i improve.
Turns out i like lying to women in a joking way, i would tell them a ridiculous fake age, ridiculous job like i sell chestnuts, i sell goat milk and i'm a millionaire because i sell to X popular chain where i live etc etc, i started off repeating the same jokes until now i can improvise on the spot - i am the witty / jokester type. I learned kino just by doing it and now i do what feels right, both things come naturally to me.
Experiment > write it down > repeat it until it becomes second nature.
0io- 5y ago
When your SMV is high enough, and it sounds like yours probably is, the direct approach works just fine.
You can literally just say, "wow, you look really good, come back to my dorm room and have sex with me."
If you come too fast say, "wow, I came too fast, make me hard and let's try again."
Girls who are into you and think you are hot will do whatever you want them to do to please you, so just tell them exactly what you want them to do.
"Take off your bra." "Try to put the whole thing in your mouth." "Turn around."
You don't have to outsmart them or anything. No magic tricks or game required. Learning game won't hurt, but if you're attractive enough, they'll want to get with you even if you don't speak a word of the same language.
INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
Damn, that's direct game on steroids
Ballosaurus 5y ago
Okay sure guy
0io- 5y ago
If your SMV is high enough you don't have to say anything, your security guys can give backstage passes to the cute ones.
Ballosaurus 5y ago
Lol, nice, but I think it should be restated: Explicit. Doesn’t. Work. Women need implication, need to wonder.
It’s akin to putting an unwrapped present under the tree—where’s the fun in that?
innominating 5y ago
Have you tried it?
Read Mode One.
If your getting overt IOIs, you can be explicit. If she feigns outrage, hold frame and she’ll be coming around.
Thunderfin 5y ago
No one cares that you're 6'3, it's been scientifically proven that the optimum height and hair color are 6' and dark brown respectively. And given you're writing an essay on here I doubt your SMV is very high
MantogeMan 5y ago
I told you I'm retarded but it just sounds like you mad a social retard has got more pussy than you
Thunderfin 5y ago
Look em up, straight facts. Peace bro