Yes, 25-26 is the age that they start to look for a committed partner, but that isn't going to stop their hypergamous nature.

From my experience, Women after 25 still want Chad, only now they try much harder to try and domesticate him.

My old roommates are a perfect example. 26M (Jack) and 31F (Jill). Jack and Jill met at a concert and they hit it off. Jack is one of the most social, fun, care-free guys I've met. He oozes social value and confidence. He knows how to pass shit tests and knows how to be selfish when he wants to be.

So after they met, Jill was single, looking for some fun. Jack was fun. She bent over backwards for him. Spend hours cooking and baking for him to come over and try to impress him, suck him off, and get his meat in her. He was plating her, and at first she was probably ok with it.

But after a few months, as you'd expect from a HB8 approaching her 30's, she wanted commitment and he dangled it in front of her expertly. She chased him for a year. Trying harder for his commitment.

She comes to find out that Jack had actually been in an LTR this whole time. Ever since they met. You'd think that a rationale person would leave immediately, but nope. It only made her try harder.

The next part I don't know too much about but Jack ends up breaking things off with his LTR. Now Jill has a chance. Jack STILL makes her wait another 6 months until FINALLY, he agrees to be exclusive with her.

They've been together now for over 2 years and in this time Jack has: cheated on her more than once, lied to her, crashed her car which cost her thousands of dollars. She also lets him live with her almost rent free and pays his phone bill. She shares her car with him.

One time I had to consider calling suicide prevention on her while she was bawling up in front of me.

My point is that she's gone through all of this shit for him. And why? Because her motive in life is to domesticate this Chad. She dreams that one day Jack is going to be able to provide for himself, and for her. He's going to care about her and fix everything in the house. She's holding on to the hope that Jack is going to go beta for her.

And sometimes it works. Some times he'll put her in a pedestal. Some times he'll DEER and lose frame. Some times he's outside of the house all day trying to perfectly set up Christmas lights while she's inside cursing him because of how lousy of a job he's doing.

Instead of looking for a man who can more than provide for himself and for her and who will be her beta bucks, she instead STILL wants the Chad but now the little girl wants the Lion to become the house cat.

And what is most absurd about all of this is that even if Chad became the beta bux and acted exactly how she wanted and he was able to provide for both of them, she would then NO LONGER be attracted to him because he's not the same high SMV Chad she met! TRP is fucking bananas man.

I've seen a lot of women that want to have a child before 30. So that implies getting married 27-28 or so. And they will start looking at 25-26. It's not always true, just a good guideline.

When they hit the wall, going for a beta is not a choice, it's the only option left.

I think you're on it women realize their fertility and good looks are a ticking clock. They start to feel the pressure in their late 20s to secure a provider and have children. They also feel pressure from seeing they're friends starting families.

This explains why my sister (will be 25 in July) is now dating this high income guy with "beta" traits.

I don't think it's an age thing so much as you need to know when NOT to be an uncaring asshole.

In general, you do best genuinely not giving a fuck about anyone's feelings. But if your girl breaks her ankle or is crying or is sick, it's OK to do something "sweet and nice" like Daddy would.

Make sure it's something small and you're not spending a lot of money on it. Don't send a dozen roses, but it would be OK to bring her a balloon and a bag of skittles to cheer her up in the hospital or something.

They're always on the lookout for a betabux, even as teenagers. You don't ever want to be that guy. The trick is to mix in a tiny bit of beta here and there when it's called for so that you're not an evil monster.

Why, are you planning to wait and be a nice guy to get Chad's throwaways?

Safe border is 23 years old.