i got her at a fundraiser in college, hb7, submissive, semi-traditional, been fucking me for 3 weeks now. she pushed for the LTR status last week, i let her know that shit don't come easy and not gonna get into that kind relationship with a girl anytime soon. she stays, keeps fucking me and hits me with "i feel like the gap between us is huge, ur gonna get bored of me and drop me", maybe i presented myself with higher value than i have, who knows. i took it as a comfort test but replied that i ain't gonna take such drastic measures as long as she keeps behaving.
thought that was the end of it. yesterday she let me know she has gotten into an LTR, not to be insulting but the guy seems like a total loser, she's a few notches higher than him in terms of smv. today she comes over, we fuck, i say i ain't got a single problem with her being somebody's gf. she honestly talks that she was afraid to be left alone and this LTR gives her stability, but on the other hand can't get enough of me and is willing to stay in both "relationships".
i don't see how im being played here, is whatever the fuck she's babbling about close to truth or im too stupid to see what's going on? she said she's scared to be on her own, meaning she can't get into serious shit with me and found a guy for comfort? in that case i pity that dude.
him = beta
me = alpha
or is this some deep ass machiavellian shit?
boy_named_su 5y ago
who cares? she disqualified herself from an LTR with you, because she's a cheating whore
keep plating her and have fun
lolurfucked 5y ago
that's the plan, sir
TheBunk_TB 5y ago
Unfortunately, I agree with you. If there was a time to prove one's self, she didnt pick this time.
TheHumbleAfrican 5y ago
facts!
friggandfrayed 5y ago
on the money with this
bruiser18 5y ago
She fucked you while in a relationship. She is a slut. Fuck her and don’t care about her.
ChadTheWaiter100 5y ago
She’s been pumped and dumped many times already. That’s all it is.
z2a1-9 5y ago
Slay until she breaks not relationship worthy!
lolurfucked 5y ago
she has already, lol
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BajaGhia 5y ago
Lots of good advice here. Find another playtoy and slowly disengage. But fuck her brains out for a while if it suits you.
kayfab 5y ago
use women as sex toys man, never believe what they tell you coming from a 46y old man who was around the bloc a few times.....
TheTastelessBatman 5y ago
Aren't you glad as hell that you're RP. You could have been on the other side of the equation had you been a simp. Good one mate. Just reinforces AWALT.
AnyDoughnut 5y ago
She wants comfort. She found some schmuck for that, so continue to bang away. You get all of the benefits (no strings sex) and he gets all of the downsides (having to spend money on her).
moomookingmoose 5y ago
I would say don't think about it too much. Too much thinking about that kinda stuff gradually takes a toll on your frame.
classylassy28 5y ago
She's super insecure (under 25 I'm guessing?) And seems like a relationship hopper. A man who doesn't want to commit even to a ltr/st relationship drives majority of women away. Women can sence what a man has to offer her.
Just do what you want to do and don't worry about her.
backtothebeginning11 5y ago
Rubbish, plenty of women are content being plates. Doesn't mean they are insecure. You are simply shaming a man for not wanting to commit, which as a woman, is your main means of control.
This is coming from the same person who said
Because a lot of what trp practices is bullshit, borderlines emotional abuse/ manipulation and is like a cult.
classylassy28 5y ago
Not shaming anyone?
Also it's true? Many of the ppl who follow are not normal red pill men.
Anacondainahonda 5y ago
You're not. You're getting what you want (sex) and she's mostly getting what she wants (sex with you and commitment with someone else) so what's the problem?
Many girls are afraid to be single and will happily get with someone they don't really like that much, just for the safety and companionship.
Buchloe 5y ago
She's playing her bf, not you. Why would you date someone who cheats on her bf anyway? Keep fucking her if you want and don't take her seriously.
lolurfucked 5y ago
dating? taking her seriously? fuck no.
im using her for sex the same way she uses guys for various reasons.
eye for an eye.
Buchloe 5y ago
Gotcha. I just don't see what your hang up or concern was. Just trying to understand why she's like that/what it means? I think it means she wants dick but wants security as well. You gave her dick but not security. She tried for it, but you had boundaries. So now she has your dick and his security (though she was probably originally just trying to make you jealous but it didn't work). Good for her I guess-- she's getting her needs met, and the hamster is doing its job of alleviating her of any awareness of inconsistencies in her actions in regards to cheating on this other dude. But I'd say you have the better end of the deal.
SilenceOnTheWire 5y ago
Looks like you two are just wasting each other's time for what, orgasms?
lolurfucked 5y ago
yeah dude i like wasting my time cumming into wet pussy.
iwanttoracecars 5y ago
What horrible life.. ????✌????
CasaDeFranco 5y ago
She's right though, eventually you get bored of her.
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For me, the women I can plate tend to be lower SMV and after a while I grow tired of them.
lolurfucked 5y ago
that's how all of it works. the difference is, women always need to have a stand-in, we don't, that's why i understand and don't blame females for it.
daymi 5y ago
If you ever find one you don't get bored of I salute you. Never happened to me so far.
CasaDeFranco 5y ago
It's rare, but it's the same for men. I can only form long term friendships with very few men; I'd say smaller ratio for long term relationships with women.
Aestheticcunt1996 5y ago
Nigga u need to man the fuck up. Yeah you like it, but where is the meaning in all this? What is the purpose? Boys waste their time in meaningless pleasure. Men invest their time in meaningful activities/relationships.
superyute 5y ago
gather around boys. we got a REAL man over here
lolurfucked 5y ago
nothing is ever enough for a trp ideal man model, huh? basically, ur saying that other than a serious relationship everything is a time waster? go tell that to guys who bothered to write thousands of words in guides about plating, gaming, managing bitches etc. if sex is a meaningless pleasure, what the fuck are these people doing here? searching for success? is that it?
LOL
Aestheticcunt1996 5y ago
Brah I must make clear here that you can have sex with girls as much as you like, that is not the problem. I only consider it a problem if the relationships with your plates only revolve around sex, without a meaningful connection to your partner. This is the impression I got from reading your other comments where you talk about the plate in question.
theherosmyth 5y ago
Do those purple pills taste like grape juice or?
lolurfucked 5y ago
what do you mean when you say meaningful connection to a woman? yeah it's just sex and occasional fun dates here and there, what else can you do with a plate?
daymi 5y ago
What's that about? There's no useful meaning in a relationship with a woman. Believe me, I tried and they are all the same.
Aestheticcunt1996 5y ago
You don‘t look for meaning in a woman. You look for meaning, for purpose in yourself and treat women in an honourable way. Not because they deserve so, but because you yourself deserve to act in an honourable way. That is the way of a mature man.
BajaGhia 5y ago
That's Conan right there.
redhawkes 2 5y ago
You got it right. The guy is used as a safety net, the same way how branch swinging works.
Keep plowing her and don't break frame.
conk2000 5y ago
Women are all about finding ways to have the cake and eat it too.
You were the alpha fucks, but she felt you were lacking in the beta bucks. She found a low SMV with an unhealthy self esteem, and now she has her beta security while still gettkng her rocks off.
I would recommend vetting the new beta boyfriend to see if he is mentally unstable. No point in keeping a plate at the risk of an insecure other guy who finds out he is getting cucked.
FixYourselfFirst 5y ago
Don't overthink this. This is the true nature of women.
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
Sometimes, insecurity > AWALT over shorter periods of time.
embracingtheredpill 5y ago
Could you elaborate? I don't understand
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
Women will sometimes peremptorily reject a guy who they regard as too much higher than they are in terms of SMV, because they know they're going to get pumped and dumped.
Not precisely what happened here, but recall that she said:
She's insecure about only being a meat puppet for the OP, so she locked down a loser beta who she can control. That will work for her in the short term, but hypergamy will eventually kick in.
embracingtheredpill 5y ago
Pre-rejection. Got it. It's interesting that you say hypergamy will eventually kick in though, how so? I stop observing girls once they pre-reject me so haven't seen that arc
GRAFTER- 5y ago
What is awalt
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
It's French for "Read the fucking sidebar, n00b."
Jabbermouth 5y ago
Sidebar homie
maximumxp 5y ago
Sidebar is your friend.
All woman are like that, btw
Haste- 5y ago
All women are like that. Check side bar
GRAFTER- 5y ago
Ok thanks, im on phone its abit hard to navigate bc dont use reddit that much
Haste- 5y ago
Same, i understand bro
OrzhovPalatine 5y ago
I dont see what the problem is. You're getting what you want, she's insecure cause you won't commit and wants beta guy as comfort and to push you to do something. I've had plates in the past mention they were getting serious with another guy that was way below me just to push me into committing.
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Again don't see what you're problem is, don't expend so much effort for a plate
lolurfucked 5y ago
no, dude, i got no issues. this is a learning experience for me and im trying to wrap my head around that is all.
OrzhovPalatine 5y ago
Believe me you haven't seen anything yet. Your situation is just the most common. Moment you start sleeping with married women with beta male providers you start to look at things differently.
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lolurfucked 5y ago
mind to elaborate? im curious what u mean
OrzhovPalatine 5y ago
I ran into Red pill from the PUA community and still was trying to be purple pill. I wanted to believe badly that NAWALT but I kept running into women who proved AWALT.
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I had a plate who was recently married to my own primary doctor. Dude was a great guy, hung out with him once but his only flaw was he was boring to her. While he was working his ask off his new wife was blowing me at his house. Thats when it hit me this shit is legit.
lolurfucked 5y ago
fuck that bitch.
AWALT
D4rkr4in 5y ago
hope he doesn't find out before ur prostate exam
OrzhovPalatine 5y ago
Nah hes never gonna know.
lampshade2818 5y ago
Because that never happened. Sounds so made up.
spndxwra 5y ago
LOL.. u dont see it?
she's lying to you ( there is no other LTR) to get you to commit.. machiavellian crap mate
Jfc_Manners 5y ago
I once dumped a girl for trying this. BLEW HER FUCKING MIND lol
HumanSockPuppet 5y ago
You're more at fault here than you realize. Since the issue is rather convoluted I'm gonna break it down for you.
The whole reason she felt there was a "huge gap" and needed to remedy it by finding a stable boyfriend was because you failed to apply Control Game.
Whether you intend on letting a girl become a girlfriend or not, you should be giving her clear instructions and expectations to follow, that way she FEELS like her world has rules and boundaries. Her anxiety came from your lack of interest in her general behaviour and lack of expectations.
Indifference and aloofness work fine in the very early stages of interacting with a girl. But the more total time you've spent with her, the less your indifference appears to be genuine. If you were actually indifferent, you'd just go no-contact. Instead, your indifference looks like cowardice and an inability to take control. So she becomes afraid and looks for stability somewhere, even if it's in the fiction of a "stable relationship" with a "good guy".
Expectations and leadership are not reserved only for girls you have awarded with committment. You should be bossing around any and every girl, whether they're plates, FWBs, or potential girlfriend material. You only make into a girlfriend that girl(s) who not only obeys, but also invests in you in kind.
Read my "Guide To Training Bitches" for a comprehensive explanation.
lolurfucked 5y ago
alright, i will :)
organicfluxx 5y ago
In what ways should a plate be bossed around?
T-P-T-W-P 5y ago
I tend to be willing to let girls cheat with me initially, but I’m not too big on actively sharing or being the other guy, especially if the others they’re fucking with or dating are well below me in SMV. You have to think about STD’s, trying to pass off a pregnancy as yours, them being dishonest with the other dude and him slashing your tires or some shit, etc. She is a cheating hoe tho so she’s recused herself from any position beyond play thing. Really depends on your SMV and current situation. I’d probably say find another plate of similar quality if easily available, less hassle and less variables to deal with but I definitely understand how it’s hard to let go if the puss is good. Personally, I’m pretty quick to cut any plate that isn’t noticeably above my average lay if they raise some definitive red flags just because my SMV is high enough to where I can usually replace them without an incredible amount of trouble. You’re probably good to keep banging her but I’d continuously assess just so you stay out ahead of things.
PoppyVetiver 5y ago
DirtyPlate
idontevenlift37 5y ago
You’ve cucked a beta boy whilst proving AWALT, this girl made it clear that she’s not LTR material. Hypergamy at its finest.
lolurfucked 5y ago
GOD BLESS THE HOES!
ultimatrev666 5y ago
Honestly, unless you *NEED* her to get your jolly off because you can't get it elsewhere, I'd seek out the guy she's in a LTR with and tell him she's cheating, then ghost her.
failingtheturingtest 5y ago
You need to learn that it is not your responsibility to look after random people. If you're ever asking if telling someone they're being cheated on is a good idea, the answer is no. It will always cause you drama. Always!
So you only do this when you are willing to lose the friend and it's absolutely worth the drama.
lolurfucked 5y ago
the guy looks like he's been taken advantage of his whole life, if he dumps this one, someone else will come along. from the looks of it, she's totally using him, not giving him any pussy & he's still happy about it. i mean what can i do? lol
i got 1 more plate and another not so consistent girl, so, no, i don't "need" her.
conk2000 5y ago
Giving the opportunity for the beta to breakup with the cheating plate could help him grow some balls. There is a sense of confidence as the power changes hands when the guy has become the dump-er instead of the dump-ee.
ultimatrev666 5y ago
Good deal.
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I suppose I still feel for the other guy though. Like, I know you're not obligated to do him any favors, but you could possibly turn his life around if you helped him learn about TRP. I've been cheated on thrice in my life before I got the message, thus I'd help someone if I was in a position to do so.
lolurfucked 5y ago
agreed, i've been cheated on brutally, only then i opened my eyes to trp. see, in my experience, guys like that don't "come around" just be being told so. i will probably do something about it, but not sure it's gonna help the poor bastard.
ultimatrev666 5y ago
Aye, he may very well not listen to reason. :(
sandal_on 5y ago
You write a post about her. If you were truly alpha (in general) you would have trouble not forgetting plates since they are plenty and chasing you.
lolurfucked 5y ago
im not obsessing over shit , i got no mountain of chicks chasing me and i write shit here for my own educational purposes. that makes me a loser? ok.
sandal_on 5y ago
You got riled up of a simple core problem and try to patch a simple symptom. Go fix your core problem first since it is very evident.
Besides you're clinging onto a plate who's in relationship, write about her in fear of manipulation and see you yourself as alpha in this context? You have no abundance. That is your problem.
SeasonedRP 5y ago
-not giving him any pussy & he's still happy about it
Don't believe that for a second. Married women do this too. They lie and say they never sleep with their husbands anymore, etc. etc. But their husbands have no plans to ever leave; they supposedly just accept sexless existences. Right. Once you've been around women for a while, you'll start seeing patterns with their lies.
lolurfucked 5y ago
she reads his texts and laughs about it while scratching my balls. he ain't getting any pussy at this particular moment, she has him on the leash, trying to make him provide much more or else he gets no penetration. pretty shitty thing to do, even for a girl. i've seen shit like this on numerous occasions. other than feeling sorry for the guy, i don't give a fuck as long as she blows me whenever i call her. maybe i'll tip the guy about how he's being fucked in the ass, but he'll probably run to her crying "i dont believe ur really like that baby" and will blow the whole damn thing
Injrabodi 5y ago
I had this happen once as a teenager, except I didn't know about her beta provider for about the first month of our casual relationship. Eventually my mind pieced it together and I messaged the dude on facebook, because I felt bad cucking him. He got angry at me, and threatened to kill me. I was completely innocent and his "girlfriend" was the one playing both of us, yet he directed all of his anger at me.
I don't see anything good occurring if you contact him. The kindest thing you could do is to keep fucking his girl, because one day when he finds out on his own, it will completely crush all of his feelings and destroy his mind. Then maybe the beta male will die and something better can be reborn. Pain is the ultimate teacher.
lolurfucked 5y ago
it will completely crush all of his feelings and destroy his mind
^ how 99% of trp guys ended up here. no harm in that.
SolarTortality 5y ago
That’s how I got here lol. I’ve gone from “hey stop fucking my girlfriend” to “sorry bro I’m fucking your girlfriend”
SilenceOnTheWire 5y ago
How do you know he isn't taking advantage of her insecurities too? Nice guys are not as stupid as people think they are. He may be settling but the satisfaction of knowing she can't keep the commitment of the guys she really likes and the frustration it causes her might just make up for being cheated on for him.
Some guys may settle for less but they try to have fun with it.
SolarTortality 5y ago
Lol wut?
SilenceOnTheWire 5y ago
Just because a guy is a beta doesn't mean he's stupid. Different strategies.
SolarTortality 5y ago
How does he get satisfaction from her not being able to get the guys she wants. Pure schadenfreude?
SilenceOnTheWire 5y ago
Pretty much yeah. He knows that every time she has sex with him (the beta) she's doing it out of duty or sexual frustration. Partly he feels bad, partly he gets a sadistic kick out of it. Of course not all betas are like this.
Another explanation is betas who are closeted gays and live vicariously through their cheating gfs, or get a kick out of being bossed around by women (ie women who are domineering and even sadistic with their beta partners but docile with chad. Little do those women know that some men get off on it).
It could be a combination of both too.
pridebrah 5y ago
Yeah I think this is pretty damn rare because beta's are inherently beta because of their delusions (ie: she really loves me / I'm better than her ex! etc)
SolarTortality 5y ago
Wow that’s so cringe. Not your comment itself but the situation and mindset you’ve described lol
SilenceOnTheWire 5y ago
It is. I've met a few guys like this. Some think Red Pillers are dumb for working so hard and that they are the smart ones, playing with the cards they are dealt and making the most out of having to lower their standards.
zxcvb7809 5y ago
I think of it like buying cars. You don't buy a Bugatti not unless you are rich. You test drive a Bugatti. When you go to buy a car it is a Nissan, Ford, Toyota, KIA etc. A dude that is an alpha is a Bugatti. She can't have you but every chance she has to test drive you she is going to.
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lolurfucked 5y ago
after reading that i feel 1000bhp revving up my dick rpms
HastaPronto90 5y ago
Slut
INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
Women do this shit. Seen it a lot on here recently.
They are fed all this stuff about how their look, and pussy should net them commitment, exclusivity etc, just for being a chick.
An alpha style guy comes along and breaks that illusion. All their feelings come up, and sense of lack of power...so they run out and get an LTR, to calm their nerves. Many women can't handle shit stoicly, like men, so they reach out for validation and attention.
Then crazy thing is, they get the beta who commits, then despise him. This usually ends up in some sort of crisis and the old 'I dunno what I want'...while she rides your dick.
You gotta start expecting this stuff, and having amused mastery around it. See women's motivations better than they do.
There is advanced game you can run on this situation, where you leave them for a couple of weeks. Hit them up...tease them all about Billy Beta, and how unattractive a guy is who commits within a few weeks. Let her know YOU KNOW she ain't getting fucked right...tease her and show you don't give a fuck. Some take the bait, when you make them think with their pussy over their illogical head.
walawalawa 5y ago
Ok
Shit test
and...
You have a lot to learn about spinning plates and female hypergamy. How can she suddenly be in a "LTR"? She's a plate, you shouldn't care.
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No, you envy that dude...
irrelevant
You=beta with oneitis
It's her snatching frame and you getting oneitis because you're ego invested.
Move on.
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lolurfucked 5y ago
do not take it personally but i fucking hate smart-ass comments like this one. everything i wrote both in the post and comments state that it's the other way around, yet you somehow manage to see through my facade and im suddenly envious of the guy whos gf im fucking and have oneitis for a girl that is basically my slave. on top of that, my ego is heavily invested coz apparently i don't give a fuck.
bravo!
walawalawa 5y ago
If you don't give a fuck, why are you asking for advice? She's a plate...a plate you're obsessing over and trying to qualify yourself to us about because she's sticking with another guy?
Come on.
lolurfucked 5y ago
asking for what's causing a certain female pattern because im new to trp is called obesssing? - ok
qualifying works if im put in a position where she chooses another guy? - hmm
i give a fuck because im asking for advice? - well, well, i should be know-it-all or im labelled as an insecure guy.
dude, nothing against you personally, but u should quit picking on people for no reason.
walawalawa 5y ago
You come here for advice. We give it. You don't like it and you lash out. You're more Gamma than Alpha. If you're truly committed to understanding the Red Pill leave your ego at the door and open yourself up to real feedback.
You don't understand women and their hypergamous nature. You clearly don't understand shit tests and you have a very thin skin.
jamesbond8181 5y ago
How old are you and how old is she?
lolurfucked 5y ago
she's 22, im 25
Wjourney 5y ago
That bitch is crazy dip before the guy becomes suicidal and murders you in a drunken stupor
Praeger 5y ago
She hits me as being polyamorous.
She's wanting to be with both of you for different reasons - you might be the alpha physically and sexually, but he might be the alpha when it comes to other issues (emotional support, intelligence, wealth, whatever)
I wouldn't consider this a test - you've both been pretty clear.
I would suggest something - find out if he other guy knows and what she finds attractive about him - you could then either work together to keep her as a plate, and use this to gain others (poly chicks dig accepting men); or use this to figure out what he might have that you don't, and use that info to better yourself.
SolarTortality 5y ago
Cringe bro I’m cringing at you right now bro do you even redpill? Cringe
Praeger 5y ago
I'm wandering if you do.
Red pill teaches you to find YOUR alpha trait and understand that others have differing alpha skills.
There's a reason why ugly rich men get what they want, or poor hippie dudes who play the guitar.
Use your knowledge connections and skills to advance and gain more, don't ever cripple yourself by not using opportunities.
SolarTortality 5y ago
I may have misinterpreted your previous comment, I was under the impression that you were saying to try and work with the beta to keep her as a plate... obviously that’s not what you were saying in hindsight. I redact my “cringe bro that’s so cringe”
Praeger 5y ago
No No no lol
Your all good bro - I was more suggesting that he (alpha) talk to the other guy (beta) as he might know what's going on; and if so then alls cool, no need to worry about hiding anything, and you can use that as a tool to gain other plates.
From my experience poly chicks talk more then regular chicks, and if they find even one accepting dude then they'll all flock - and then you've instantly gained multi potential plates with zero effort.
SolarTortality 5y ago
I still don’t think it’s a good idea to talk to the beta, things could be volatile and go nuclear if you catch my drift
Praeger 5y ago
Yeah that's true. Don't want to lose a sure thing for a possibility.
SilenceOnTheWire 5y ago
You should pity yourself, wasting your time being some hoe's sex toy.
lolurfucked 5y ago
I ain't wasting shit, she comes over when I feel horny and leaves when I hop back on my pc to work.
Don't be a smart ass.
SilenceOnTheWire 5y ago
You are wasting time yes. It's an empty, meaningless relationship that doesn't add anything to your life other than STDs.
lolurfucked 5y ago
meaningless relationships and hot sex with no attachments. i wouldn't call that wasting time.
sounds like you're an LTR type, dude.
SilenceOnTheWire 5y ago
Right now I'm more of a nothing type, dude.
lolurfucked 5y ago
monk mode activated.
SilenceOnTheWire 5y ago
I'm too atheistic to be a monk.