I'm 22 and when I talk to older guys, I struggle to be on their level, like my insecurities and immaturity come out and they see me as inferior. How do I mature so I can reach my goal of being able to successfully socialize with men much older than me...(EDIT:) and bascially be on their level.
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ValorElite 5y ago
They see you as inferior because you act like it and they pick up on it. Every senior guy respects me at my internship because I slow down my speech, I look directly at them, and maintain my frame with them, so to speak.
Just ask them what's going on, anything planned for the weekend, and add a witty comment here and there. Gets better with age.
Skylights1000 5y ago
Stop riding with the waves and push yourself more
[deleted] 5y ago
Take on more responsibility (primarily for yourself).
[deleted] 5y ago
Face more conflict.
Redpillreader22 5y ago
More specific?
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You know what would make you most uncomfortable; approaching that 10, hitting the gym, walking into a high-end bar, stopping a bunch of suits to ask for directions when you're carrying a dumbphone and are downtown, getting up at 4 AM to workout, dancing alone at a night club and having fun, et cetera.
zboo1h 5y ago
Suffer a whole lot. Experience years of hardship and growth. There is no quick trick.
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This is pretty much it.
Sitting on a couch for 3 months drugged up after a major surgery as a result of sports and watching myself drop from 200lbs to 160 aged me probably 20 years mentally.
pame12 5y ago
You could try to take a week off and plan a route to someplace far away to walk there and back (something like 8 hours total?).
PunkFunk098 5y ago
I'm a dad to a 4 year old and I'm 22. That definitely made me grow up quick. I also play poker with a bunch of grown folk every week.
btharmony 5y ago
Just curious. Do you regret the decision or has having your son so young enriched your life from where it was before?
PunkFunk098 5y ago
Definitely made my life better.
I do however know that having my son has made my life much more difficult than just about all other people my age.
I was married but then got divorced because she cheated with one of my groomsmen a couple of months after the wedding. But tbh she's a wonderful mom and we get along great. I'm also very lucky in that sense.
This plate I used to have one time told me I'm lucky to have had my son so early because that just means I get to spend that much more time with him.
Chef-James 5y ago
Learn from past mistakes, take a lesson from every person you meet, lower your ego, understand everyone has insecurities and there's nothing wrong with that, and most importantly take it upon yourself to be a better human everyday
liberty1127 5y ago
Try your hardest at everything you do and you'll end up suffering at some point and then you'll learn from it. I've learned the most from the hardest times in my life. You don't learn anything when it comes easy
bwazap 5y ago
Decide on what you want and start working at it. Face obstacles, solve them. Or fail, and learn. Learn how the world really works. https://xkcd.com/896/ It will come with time. To hasten the process: 1) focus 2) reflect on what you are doing so you improve or not make the same mistakes 3) learn from others who have done what you want to do either directly eg a senior or mentor, or indirectly via books (but only books by real practitioners).
FromTheCaveIntoLight 5y ago
Do more shit that scares you
Titanumee 5y ago
Train your mind. Make friends with mature people and practice what you learn from them. Also, being matured comes with experience, expose yourself to various things. All the best!
TruthlessShinovar 5y ago
Take a hard look at your own shadow, the things about yourself that are not serving your growth and purpose. The things your ego hides from your consciousness. Whatever makes you afraid, confront. Admit it to yourself and stand your ground against it. There’s a reason why “do not fear” is the most repeated phrase in the New Testament. This concept has been reiterated in every culture, religion, philosophy and so many pieces of fiction it’s difficult to even list them all. Instead of listening to entertainment, comedy podcasts or music, look into Jocko Willink. Start with this episode and try to absorb the lessons being articulated. It’s a gift that would have been profoundly impactful to my younger self. You’re very lucky to be the age you are. So much life ahead of you brother. Go get it.
https://youtu.be/23dArPpXgCM
drqxx 5y ago
Gay bars
Kidding of course. refinement is something that comes with time. You can speed this process up by hanging around different people who act like you want to become. You can also read a lot about self-improvement.
Seek out a mentor who can help you.
onewayroute 5y ago
Trust me they already see your insecurities before you open your mouth. Worse, if you pretend to act like you are on their level. Just breathe first, and try to relax.
Ask about their experiences and show genuine interest. When you ask a question, pause, listen closely, ask for actionable tips and say you will try do them. Get their contact info and ask if it would be cool to stay in contact, later (and I actually mean sooner) followup after you try to implement things. Ask more questions, do more things, report back.
Older guys like having a little bro, especially one that listens and does shit when he says he will. Before you know it, you will have grown up a little, time will have passed, and you will have a mentor (maybe even unknowingly to him, which is good). This mentor, if well connected, will introduce you to more people then rinse, repeat and overtime you will have amassed an influential network with people who like, know, and trust you. Now go out there, be awkward and ask questions.
dongpal 5y ago
The problem is already the beginning / your frame. It appears that you want to be seen IN THEIR FRAME that you have same value / are not inferior. This already makes you inferior from the get go.
bruiser18 5y ago
Why do you feel the need to rush yourself to be on level with them? Keep working on yourself and push forward that shit will come
light-----------dark 5y ago
Ask questions and learn from older guys. Don’t be intimidated.
Redpillreader22 5y ago
So learn as much as possible and then find a new group of older guys to socialize successfully with?
resnine 5y ago
Honestly, take the whole idea of superior and inferior out of your mind. The more attention you draw to those notions the more your mind will believe them to be true. Amused mastery around these types is actually one of the best things you can do. Listen to them, but giggle inside, just find all the events around you funny and comical. Did I say listen? always listen, always observe.
light-----------dark 5y ago
Or just keep learning from everyone that you meet, and you’ll find that you can socialize successfully with anyone.
TruthlessShinovar 5y ago
Absolutely; learn as much as you can from every single person and interaction you face. Even with your own family, people you see everyday, opening your mind to new concepts will shed light on things you couldn’t believe you’ve been overlooking for so long. Lessons to be found everywhere.
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Uzinero 5y ago
Nobody said it was easy to do, but it is the thing to do. I struggle with social anxiety and always have, the only way to improve it is to keep pushing yourself out of your comfort zone, a bit more and more each time that you can and you will find it starts to weaken.
[deleted] 5y ago
Don't always trust older guys. I've just been abused the shit out of by a narcissist.
Redpillreader22 5y ago
Get revenge, destroy his ego. Make him rage then laugh at him.
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Happened already