At a bookstore a couple caught my eye. The guy looked a lot like me, but with a sloppy neckbeard, slightly overweight, programmer glasses, wearing a graphic tee and cargo pants. Tall as me. His girl was nearly petite, but very very hot, dressed super clean and nice with a tight body, and they walked away with her hand tucked in his back pocket.
At first I checked to see if they weren’t brother and sister, and when it was clear they weren’t it struck me as so peculiar I wanted to somehow how pull the guy aside and ask how he lives life. It was like watching a Seth Rogen movie except this guy was slightly more pasty and less affable.
Can anyone lend some insight into these types? Are guys like this just super mentally healthy and somehow figured things out? The old me would have gotten so mad with myself for thinking I need to be a greek god to get women like that, but now I’m just genuinely curious. I just cannot get out of my head around beautiful women and moments like this prove that the only problem in my way is my attitude.
County_mouthless 5y ago
Optimistic answer: hes got a pretty good personality or REALLY good at sex (or both)
Cynical answer: i aint sayin shes a gold digger... But she aint goin for no broke niggas
Extremely unlikely answer: some combination of the two.
itoshirt 5y ago
They were too young for money to factor in, and he was barely saying/doing anything. They just looked content together, no desperation in the air. Anomalies apparently exist, even if short lived.
HurricaneHugues 5y ago
Just because she's with him, it doesnt mean she isnt fucking Chad. Betas can get girlfriends too, fairly easily if they have something else to offer to compensate for their lack of looks and raw masculinity. If the dud has a decent job and his life is in order, he's a good candidate for a slut to shack up with. He probably waited 2 months to smash. You don't know
itoshirt 5y ago
That’s the first thing on my mind, of course we don’t know. It just came off to me as genuine.
boy_named_su 5y ago
Maybe he's a tripod and she's a size queen
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
My secret it out, now, I guess....
FixYourselfFirst 5y ago
There's a lot more to SMV than just looks. Be confident & maintain Frame. Be exciting and mysterious. Read the sidebar..
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MeetCake 5y ago
Not all neck beards are incels guys, cmon now.
FiveStarTendieDinner 5y ago
But all incels are neck beards.
MeetCake 5y ago
I do have to agree there.... ????
[deleted] 5y ago
She has probably bad history with more attractive guys so she tries a safe bet for a while
[deleted] 5y ago
She may have many plates herself and he’s the nerdy sensitive one, or
His alpha game is super impressive, or
He’s packin big bucks, or
He’s packin big dick, or
He used to be svelt when she first met him, or
She’s tired of not getting her way with alphas and this guy is a likable beta, or
etc
etc
etc
But something unusual is happening that doesnt apply to 99% of us as the norm.
itoshirt 5y ago
Lol that’s why I seriously wanted to ask, get some kind of hint as to what it is.
[deleted] 5y ago
He just gave u 7
itoshirt 5y ago
We can only guess, I suppose he could have given 8 guesses, even 9, and we still wouldn't know. I'm saying that that's why I wanted to ask. Okay?
Psychological_Radish 5y ago
My problem with posts like these is that OP's assessment of this girl's hotness might be totally off base. How hot is she, really? Like, Victoria's Secret model hot? I seriously doubt it.
I know a few fat neckbeards with reasonably attractive GFs, but the girls certainly aren't 10/10. Maybe 7 at best. And the dudes are all total betas who somehow lucked into a relationship with a girl who wants that security.
KingSlapFight 5y ago
Men are the gatekeepers to relationships, women the gatekeepers to sex. And like a man sleeping with an unattractive fat cow to fill his needs, a woman will date an unattractive fat cow until she can branch swing to something better.
Psychological_Radish 5y ago
Well there's also just the Beta Bucks side of the equation to consider. Maybe the guy in this story works for Apple pulling $200K a year and this chick is near the Wall looking to settle for something long term.
People here forget that Betas have sex too, often with attractive women. But it's the quality of the sex and genuine desire that is lacking.
freew33zy 5y ago
There are at least 1,000 reasons this could have happened. He's secretly alpha outside of looks? He's rich and her beta? He's one of those (more common than you think) guys who pays for hot girls to go on dates with him to look cool? She thinks he's hot even though no one else does?
The point is it could be literally anything, but more than anything I hope it just shows you that the concept of "leagues" is bullshit and you should shoot your shot.
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clausternn 5y ago
Same, except I'm not sure if it's because he doesn't appreciate his SMV. I think it's more because guys are invisible to women unless his SMV is in the top 20%, and that guy you saw isn't actively trying to get to that top 20% like we are.
clausternn 5y ago
Is it really more common than I think? Tell me about it.
freew33zy 5y ago
I don't really have that mind-blowing of a story other than that I personally know 4 girls who have accepted money for any combination of going on dates, sending nudes, etc. One HB5 I know even took $2000 to fuck a guy. I was kind of bewildered that she was worth that much to a guy--the thirst is real. The irony being the same chick gives it up to a ton of guys for free. Oh well. Alpha fucks, beta BUCKS. But yeah, I imagine I don't know every single girl that does this sort of thing--there's a surprisingly big market.
clausternn 5y ago
Jesus christ. You can fuck 8s for cheaper than that.
Though I suppose it might be a fetish thing to convince a normal non-hooker girl to accept money for sex.
freew33zy 5y ago
I think this was it. Though she's pretty slutty outside of that (the guy wouldn't have known that), she did only accept money for sex one time and has a BF now. I actually know the BF and feel bad that there's no chance he knows his "sweet little angel" has sold her body for money. He's pretty BP, though, so he might be one to say "what's in the past is in the past."
Yeah, okay.
chim_city 5y ago
I have a lot of friends on seeking arrangements that would make your couple look like
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'Spotted a 0 with a 100'
itoshirt 5y ago
It didn't seem like money was involved, and the bookstore was a half-price of all things. Seemed very genuine.
itoshirt 5y ago
Can you elaborate? Whats seeking arrangements?
furcryingoutloud 5y ago
Itś a website where sugar babies seek sugar daddies or mommies.
Jailhouseredpilled93 5y ago
He has a stronger frame than her. This is all women want: A man with a stronger frame.
LbjamesVsMJ 5y ago
100% agreee. Its all about the stronger frame, bringing security, making her feel safe.
MaximMartoot 5y ago
Most likely used to be alpha and good looking when he met her but let himself go and she has not figured out how to use tinder yet or too insecure.
volvostupidshit 5y ago
She could be a narc who wants to drain him of his money. But as the others have said, there are just too many probablities to consider.
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
They are (a) good at talking to girls (b) have major frame, and (c) have found some way to make themselves exceptional.
KingZeeke 5y ago
This describes me! I am the 5, with a 10 recent ex-gf (not really 10 but way more attractive than me)
Whenever we go out for chores like grocery shopping, I didnt care how I look. If I dressed up and tried to look good I am a 7+. She on the other hand always dresses up regardless where we are going, and puts make up on. Without all that, shes probably a solid 3...
So basically what I am trying to say is looks can be deceiving, and it doesnt mean anything. Most girls are lower than what they portray, and guys are higher than what they show.
MeetCake 5y ago
Not all neck beards are incels guys, cmon now.
redvelvet_oreo 5y ago
I dont think it matters. Alot of guys can seem like they are "alpha" looks is not everything. As you can see you can game a girl being a 5 and still win a 10 it just takes more work I would say.
What I think is relevant question is what do you think the longevity of that is if its indeed a real LTR? Maybe his perceived "alpha" phase has worn out or ran dry. He is not attractive obviously. As soon as she starts seeing him as non masculine (complaining, being needy, playing to many video games) AWALT and branch swinging will take place with the quickness and she will likely become his oneitis.
Or he is a super dark triad ass hole that chokes her into submission every night and she loves it.
Guess we will never know.
Pluglord 5y ago
Maybe he studied pua and became a pickup master, who knows.