Hello guys. This one is a special request on a topic that I don't see very often.
I recall being bullied at very young age and it lasted even at university, with people mocking at me, making jokes that hurt, exposing my flaws and being betrayed by people who was supposed to be my friends.
This created some deep personal problems and I'm almost 27. One of those is that knowing new people is very hard, specially woman, because I put this big wall in the form of a frown, short answers and being silent most of the time. Making small talk is really difficult and my relationships (if I can call that) are very superficial. I'm lonely almost all the time.
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But, I'm asking that on a RP sub because I'm trying to avoid the kind of suggestions from my previous therapist, which included being more open, in touch with my feelings or something. And we all know where that leads to. I want friends as a man, not some bitchy mangina ready to be walked over and put down, like it happened many, many times before.
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I've been following RP for over a year, read lots of articles and some books. But all of that seems useless if I'm being just a society outcast.
TheBreadWinner 5y ago
I wish I had an answer for you. Abused at home and bullied everywhere else it's amazing I didn't become a serial killer. The issues that comes with stuff like that is unconscious. It's so frustrating to see it in behavior or reactions to things.
Trust issues, fear of abandonment, fear of being vulnerable, anxiety, depression. Fuck it though, all the pain makes the good things in life feel like pure ecstasy.
It's okay to be vulnerable. It's okay to have feelings and share them. You just have to also understand boundaries and find balance.
Real alpha men (not psychopaths) in my opinion understand this.
throwawayycheyeah 5y ago
You got us bud. Are you lifting?
Son_of_Gatsby 5y ago
It's actually insane how many problems lifting alone solves. Add proper sleep and nutrition and that's AT LEAST half the battle
druggaddict 5y ago
It's a tough one my friend. Some people get over it, some people don't, ever. I was like that when I was young because of what my parents told me over and over. It's not good to beat other kids. Be nice. Respect others. I lived in a perfect world until I got to preshool. I didn't know what to do among other kids. Didn't figure it out until mid-school. Nobody ever told me.
I wouldn't advise being more open with your feelings. You should get in touch with them but never show them. Learn to control and ignore your emotions, especially in public.
What helps is IDGAF attitude. Just stop giving a fuck about what other people think of you. Start thinking about how you can improve and start doing it. Don't take offence from anybody, stand your ground when somebody tries to bully you.
I was bullied in elementary. I got seriously beaten up by two guys at 13. I started Judo a month later (not really good for street fighting lol), gave my confidence a boost. At 14 I finally grew some balls, started being dominant and aggressive. I didn't give a fuck what people thought. I met the guy that beat me up, i bumped into him with a shoulder. He started pushing me and calling me names. I asked if he wants his teeth knocked out. He hit me and I fucked him up good. Got into trouble with school, my parents started their "behave good" bullshit but I didn't listen. I didn't give a fuck.
I got respect from guys at school, in my neighbourhood. Even the beat up guy apologized to me, we shook hands like nothing happened. I continued to carry my IDGAF attitude since then and if I stayed a little bitch I would end up depressed like my old friend who never grew balls because of scarity.
Join some Martial Arts. Meeting your old bullies might be difficult, if they start being agressive towards you (trying to test if you grew some balls) you can show them you won't tolerate it. And have tools to prove it if it comes to that. It should bring emotional clousure. But don't try to get in a fight on purpose. You are a grown up, there can be real consequences.
Also don't crave friends and women. People see if you try too hard. They will come when you grow some balls. It's better to be alone than with people who will use you or make fun of you.
The point is nobody respects a whiny bitch. Nobody. Drop this attitude. Once people get a feel you might be a little bitch they will test you and push your bounderies. Don't let them. Stand your ground. Don't be afraid. You are a man, not a mouse. Men have honor.
Get your shit together. Stop being a bitch now or stay a bitch for the rest of your life.
PS I never told this to anybody because I didn't become more open, I became a man. I can become more open only to my good friends.
cupshadow 5y ago
My parents had that attitude too, saying to just ignore them. It was the most useless advice, because the entire class ended up making open jokes about me. I still don't know how I swallowed all of that but it's affecting my present self in the form of low tolerance for frustration, leading to explosions of anger, feelings of revenge and murder fantasy.
The truth is, I don't see any of them in literal years. They moved on to other cities, probably close to get married, who knows.
I will keep lifting, for sure. Thanks for the advice.
misspellbot 5y ago
Error, you misspelled agressive. It's actually spelled aggressive. Don't mess it up again!
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cupshadow 5y ago
Nah, I do. I've also realized that the most charismatic people are tested all the time but they know how to handle the situation. But only after reading about shit tests.
jm51 5y ago
Why do you think that they keep passing those tests?
imo, it's because they don't let their ego get in the way of achieving what they want. iow, it's not about them, it's about their goal. That goal may be minor but it is still more important to them than telling you how great they are.
10points4gryffinddor 5y ago
Really? Yelling random insults to strangers? What kind of twisted stuff is this...
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
increases stress resistance, makes it harder to bully u.
i'm not a americuck with low iq though, cuz i'm Russian, that's probably why I get it. there's a reason why we Russians, kicked germany's ass.
spiritletshereit 5y ago
I was bullied throughout school and I now recognise that it caused me to believe that no one could like me for who I am because I believed that I was 'bad'. (Read No More Mr Nice Guy.)
The answer is -
Lift
Buy clothes that make you look good
Be talking to as many girls as possible at all times even if it's just socially. You should have a variety of them that you can invite on a night out at any given time. And you should actually do so. You'll be surprised at how much this will effect your confidence. You don't have to make it about sex all the time.
Keep talking to us. This is a healthy masculine community and you need that.
Zeplikes 5y ago
Learn to fight. muay thai, boxing, wrestling, MMA. Doesn't matter which one but learn one well to acquire some confidence in yourself. After that you will not need to worry if you can defend yourself and can think and speak more freely. You will not feel the need to engage in street fights either due to your newfound confidence.
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make yourself strong physically,mentally and spiritually and no fucker is going to question you. sometimes that little joking around should be seen as trying to man you the fuck up or whatever. be open with your feelings with men yeah sure, but like at the end of the day if you aren't doing things to make you stronger, you're going to come across as a little unaccomplished bitch.
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also, avoid spending your life online. social anxiety will make being one of the lads hard. you just gotta grin and fucking bear it, and im saying this as someone who looks like dog shit. become the life of the party, people will always tear you down, its up to you whether you take it to heart or you man up and stand up for yourself
Chaudhary25 5y ago
I went through abuse in 7th standard,years later I tried dxm,it cleared my mind like nothing else,the only thing to be kept in mind here is that there is a lot of scope for dxm abuse but it's the the best therapist out there,better choice will be ketamine,
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
So read up on stoicism, and become excellent at something or a couple of something.
Also, realize that, at 27, not everyone is a shit head who is just out to bully you. I realize that your bad experience will make this difficult, but over time it will help you get over things. Finally, realize that by continuing the way that you are, you are only letting the bullies win.
10points4gryffinddor 5y ago
Tl:dr BELIEVE IN YOURSELF NOW.
Are u chronically masturbating to porn? If you are.. slow that down for a bit. Or stop it all together. Monk mode can help. If you don’t know what monk mode is look it up. If you’re not lifting, start lifting. Make sure your diet is straight and you eat and drink right. One thing you need to internalize is that your past does not define your future. Just because you’ve been bullied your whole life, does not mean that you should carry on assuming the victim position in toxic relationships for the future as well. You will probably piss some people off (the bullies) when you change but that’s fine. Everyone will likely resist change (especially toxic people when they see you grow.)Your biggest enemy is probably yourself, not others who bully you. Sure they’re probably assholes.. but you’re a bigger asshole for not believing in yourself and for letting people run all over you. Treat yourself right before you can treat others right. Love yourself before you can love others. Set healthy boundaries for yourself as well as for others. You can choose NOW to change yourself. Internalize it NOW. KEYWORD IS FUCKING “NOW”. Ehem excuse my french.. That you deserve to live a life where people are not constantly bombarding you with insults and hate for no other reason than to feel better about themselves. Stand up for yourself. Please. Granted, there will be many haters and toxic people trying to pull you down along the way. Many of those people are disguised as “friends who just love you so fucking dearly that they don’t want to see you make wrong decisions”. WRONG. They just cannot stand the idea that someone is who they percieve as lower than them is finally waking up to the idea that “FUCK YOU I can actually do just fine”
Telling you you’re not shit, telling you you’re fucking stupid. Telling you oh you think you’re smart now? Yati yati yata” ALL FUCKING HATE. IGNORE THOSE PEOPLE. They just want to keep you in that place where you they can stomp on you to feel better. They put you down or they put themselves above you with no legitimate reason other than they are insecure and they need to put others down. As you can probably tell this is all from personal experience. Good one too. I was in a special type of rut too, and I got out of it doing all those things. It’s pretty liberating let me tell yah. You can too! If you just believe in yourself NOW. Please for the love of god... just do it.
rolleN1337 5y ago
It's not a bad thing to address your vulnerabilities. Once you know your vulnerabilities, you technically become invulnerable. If someone tries to expose a vulnerability in you, with the power of awareness, feeling of embarrasment will be gone and therefore you will able to hold frame.
Kommanderdude 5y ago
2 things. 1. Lift. 2. Stop being a fucking pussy.
lozboss 5y ago
Mate we are here for you.
Just leave the past in the past. It's an anchor holding you back. Tomorrow is a new day. Focus on your successes. Focus on what went well. Climb the mountain a step at a time. But do it by not carrying your emotional baggage with you
step 1 is feel good about yourself, get in shape and feel good. Step 2 is re-entering the worl d as a new man
dobbekz 5y ago
Honestly in life you're either the cuck or you're cucking others. Getting bullied by your parents, getting bullied in school, getting bullied by your boss once your an adult it's all the same thing really. You need to break free of this and flip the script and start cucking those that try to cuck you. If someone tries to disrespect you fuck their wife and see how you have shut down all their bullshit.