Something I’ve noticed recently after I’ve stopped doing the whole bars, clubs, festival scene.
90% of hot girls live the bar/club lifestyle.
You’ll see more attractive women in one night at a bar/club than you will from a month of daily normal day game type stuff. Gyms, stores, etc.
But to me that brings 2 problems.
I don’t entirely enjoy the whole bar/club thing anymore.
And most of the girls in that bar/club scene are full of red flags anyways.
Seems like 95% of attractive women age 18-25 spend most of their time in a bar/club.
Do we need to just submit and realise bars/clubs are part of the game? In terms of efficiency?
oytrp 5y ago
In terms of efficiency, yes.
You'll get laid more often with less effort in a sexualized environment. That's what bars/clubs provide. They're all there looking to get laid.
If you're just spinning plates, red flags don't really matter except crazy bitches and drama.
NutritionalBoy 5y ago
Have I done myself a disfavour by removing myself from that scene?
Things like work + sports have become a bigger part of my life and with training early sat/sun I can’t find the will to go out until 2am on the weekend
oytrp 5y ago
Probably not. Work, hobbies and lifting are more important than pussy.
You can still pull outside of the bar scene but it requires more time/effort/higher SMV.
NutritionalBoy 5y ago
A hell of a lot more. I can think of at least 100 girls from stuff like bars/clubs/Tinder.
Can’t say I’ve ever pulled from Day game stuff outside of social circle connections
oytrp 5y ago
You might not have ever pulled from day game, but I guarantee your approaches are significantly less. Your lack of success is probably only from lack of trying.
NutritionalBoy 5y ago
Living in the UK day game is harder than US. Most people in the U.K. have never had a real date because we have such an alcohol based social structure. Talking to strangers when not drunk in the U.K. is a big no.
But you are right, I’ve tried more times in one night at a club than my life time of day game.
But not only are there less attractive women in Day game, they seem 9000% more unattainable.
Guess that’s my own insecurities though
oytrp 5y ago
That's an advantage for you, not a detriment.
Now, you're the guy with balls willing to approach outside of the bar, something they aren't used to. And yeah, that's purely insecurity. Hot girls don't just leave the house to hit the bar. The same girl you're chatting up in the bar is out at Starbucks, shopping, hanging out in the park etc.
If you're attractive she will be receptive. Doesn't matter when or where.
NutritionalBoy 5y ago
That’s a good point, and a good thing to hear. Gotta work on my day game I guess. Something about it so difficult. I’ve been on so many tinder dates and I always pull, it’s easy when you know she’s interested. That all changes when it’s a random girl
oytrp 5y ago
Cold approach doesn't have to be completely random like it's sometimes portrayed here.
They'll still IOIs if they're interested during the day. See an attractive woman, make solid eye contact and smile.
Does she smile back? Get flustered? Well now you know she's interested.
NutritionalBoy 5y ago
Was in Aldi the other day, attractive woman with her boyfriend. Looks me right in the eye and smiles.
I just thought “wtf weird”. 2 hours later “that was an IOI!” And with her boyfriend!
It helps that I’m pretty jacked. Just gotta notice those signs and actually act on them
Ricklogical 5y ago
More than anything, the man you approaches no matter what the taboo gets fucked more often.
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The woman is instantly signaled that you don't give a fuck about whatever is in the way you are going to engage with her. Handsome husband? Still talking to you. Busy in the middle of something important, still going to talk to you.
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Yes, it is RUDE but I cannot stress enough how RUDE behavior is simply put in place to keep undesirable people from beating down society. No one wants a boy that follows all the rules. You bend the ones that are essential to bend to be better than those around you. You just need to be smooth enough to pull it off, or not give a fuck if it isn't smooth and push through and get your goal accomplished.
SenorSwole 5y ago
Girls just wanna have fun. They fill their useless lives with hedonistic activities and really hold themselves to no standard. Then when they hit their 30s they desperately search for a man; and ask where all the good men have gone.
Bitch they’ve been there the entire time but you were too busy doing coke in the bathroom to get one of them when you were actually attractive
BoilingBleach 5y ago
I consider myself pretty deeply abscibed to TRP in a very strict manner.
Yet I feel your comment is full of hate and it's honestly quite unfair.
They are trying to get the most valuable male to fuck them, and if possible secure him. Drugs, clubs, dressing like a bitch and such are part of the strategy to that end. Don't hate, you just have different goals in life.
SenorSwole 5y ago
It’s not part of the strategy to secure a high value man at all. It’s replacing that strategy with “I don’t need no man” and the “have fun” complex that inherently lowers their value to actual high value men. It’s what they’ve been brainwashed into doing by the sexual revolution and feminist propaganda.
Just think about it. Would you rather be in a serious relationship with a club slut or an innocent girl?
BoilingBleach 5y ago
I'm not saying is the right stategy, or a smart one, but they can readly see:
1) They are indeed fucking handsome confident fuckers 2) They are having lots of fun 3) A future where their looks fade feels so far away, alien and outlandish that all the nonsense about age not mattering seems less retarded than it is.
Tbh if I was a pretty girl I would fall for it too.
SenorSwole 5y ago
Of course you would. I would too. It’s such powerful brainwashing that I’ve personally seen the change with people very close to me, and there ain’t jack shit I can do about it. It’s sadistic and it’s sad, but it’s the way it is and it’s not changing any time soon.
BoilingBleach 5y ago
I think we do agree on that front
SenorSwole 5y ago
Funny, just now my younger sister’s friend said to my sister “bye slut!” as if that’s just a casual thing. Lmao what the fuck happened to the world man.
BoilingBleach 5y ago
Indeed, although I'm myself trying to not asume I know how life was in times I've never lived...
But yeah... It kinda feels something is not right :(
MiZiSTiK 5y ago
Tremendously low iq
BoilingBleach 5y ago
Ok, thanks for your valuable addition to the discussion.
MiZiSTiK 5y ago
Imagine thinking the most high value men will be at clubs drinking and doing drugs lmfao. What a fucking idiot. Yea, Nikola Tesla was always out doing coke and drinking every friday night lmfao
BoilingBleach 5y ago
Are we still talking about attractiveness or we now switched to value for humanity?
Newton died a virgin lol
MiZiSTiK 5y ago
I don't consider a hot drug addict girl to be high value. Same applies with men. I value morals and authenticity
BoilingBleach 5y ago
AWALT, but who knows I might be wrong. You do you.
MiZiSTiK 5y ago
Nah you right about that. AWALT. Which is why I struggle to even see the point of approaching women a lot of the time. I'm just making a fool out of myself because what I want is impossible lol
BoilingBleach 5y ago
We all do that, don't worry. Don't forget they are as genetically designed to perpetuate the matrix as we are of wanting to believe in it.
That hurts a lot.
zyk0s 5y ago
Do you seriously believe that? That it’s part of a conscious strategy? Or is it closer to what the guy you replied to said: they want to have fun, they are following what popular girls their age do, the get high on attention and the drinks/drugs they can get for free. Hot men are at the clubs because the hot chicks go there, not the other way around. If they really wanted to “fuck, and possibly secure high value men”, they’d be following the advice a friend of my sister once got from her mother: go loiter around the law and medicine buildings at the closest university campus.
BoilingBleach 5y ago
It's a sexualized environment with random people down to fuck. It's a pretty good place to get approached and have fun with it.
I don't know if the egg or the chicken came first but if you are a girl and want Chad to fuck you hard, that is a solid option.
As I said, is a strategy that feels right for someone that has always been pretty and is only in the early 20s. No one is claming is optimal, just that seems to be for someone so young and naive.
And also I bet fun
LodestarAuriga 5y ago
You know, man, i would argue that when a girl goes clubbing, they wear a particularly heavy amount of make up, high heels and a nice dress. That very same hot girl in the night could go unnoticed the next morning at the supermarket or at her college. This fact may interfere with your statistics.
Furthermore, it is also likely that non-hot Girls would feel too intimidated or awkward at a club, and thus avoid going. Therefore making the average "concentration" of hot girls in the club higher, or at least it would seem that way, since the actual amount might be the same as on the street or at your classroom.
So yeah, in the club there are pretty girls and you will definitely get to bang a hot one that night without seeing her long enough to realize how she looks without the heels, the dress, and the two hours she invested on make-up and hair.
gunsliquorstrippers 5y ago
I don’t know about you but I see plenty of girls in Trader Joe’s that get my dick pumping