I notice that the Chads and the high SMV guys I knew growing up are doing well in life now but they are either married or on their way there, this applies to almost all of them. The guys who went to good schools, were in the best frats and had a nice paying job out of college are all either married or in an LTR on their way there now that they are hitting their late 20s.
Most high SMV guys I know got married in their early 20s or were engaged at that point.
It just makes me see this man in his prime in his 30s as some mythical creature that doesn't really exist or is a figment of someone's imagination as most men are married at that age. I don't see too many high SMV guys who are single after the age of 30, in fact I rarely see any Chad type of cool guy who stayed single in his 30s.
Makes sense to me as well.
1 - Most people around your age will be married with kids by the time you are in your early 30s.
2 - It will feel out of place for you to hang out with people in their 20s.
So for the guys who are high SMV on paper but single in their 30s, what really happens to them in terms of a social life?
Ekken_ 6y ago
High SMV 30 year olds are made in their 20s. The chads fresh out of high school or college get locked down/are baby daddies/don’t apply themselves for higher pursuits. SMV relies only on looks and tingles at these earlier stages of life because no one in school has had an opportunity to make something of themselves yet. After that, the long term, genuine alphas separate themselves from the chaff with things like discipline, career success, and avoiding ltrs until moderate success is achieved.
renopillars2 6y ago
Yeah but what does that all result in?
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clausternn 6y ago
Lol that's definitely not RP's most valuable piece of knowledge.
TRP is basically a collaboration between men like you (and perhaps like me, haven't decided yet) who will never marry.... and men who say marriage can work, as long as you are RedPill, do you work, vet your woman properly, and understand what you're getting into.
FatmanO 6y ago
Too much risk for almost no reward
beachbbqlover 6y ago
Some of us want to reproduce.
Wait... were failing to address an obvious question:
What's the RP recommended situation for having and taking care of your own kids?
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beachbbqlover 6y ago
If you have kids with a woman, aren't you already committed financially to her come hell or high water? And you would be not married? What would be the arrangement then?
room_303 6y ago
Nothing life blasting away at a career and working like a dog just for pussy.
Ekken_ 6y ago
Doesn’t have to be your why
room_303 6y ago
It doesn't but without a girlfriend one can live rather cheaply, without the need for flashy shit - and work less per week because of this.
Ekken_ 6y ago
Then do it. I want to build businesses and change the way things work. It’s not for pussy it’s for me.
room_303 6y ago
Over 30, never married, fit, bit of muscle, have moved around to different cities, with a girl just to fuck a few times a week. I might get a glance from young girls but 6 times out of 10 they are married, in a LTR or just plain programmed by social media to stick to the social circle they knew in high school/colllege all the way through their 20's.
All the the hot sluts 18 - 23 are fucking, LTR and tindering with men aged 20- 28, I probably seen ONCE in my life a young hot above 8 girl with an above 30's male - anywhere.
Red Pill and Rollos smv chart does not seem to even be half true, real life is complete opposite to the bullshit circulated here.
renopillars2 6y ago
Reality hitting hard huh, thanks for the honest post.
FwoGiZ 6y ago
Are you implying that all the 18-23 high smv chicks should be mostly drooling over the 33-37yo high smv dudes, just cause that's when both their smv is high?
If so, you do not quite understand his chart I think...
room_303 6y ago
Tell me then - what else does it mean?, that 'high smv' males at 36 should be fucking low smv 35 year old females, disregarding young girls they desire?
FwoGiZ 6y ago
Read the charts separately... all it means is that women achieve their highest worth and value around age 23 and that on their side, men kinda achieve it around 35.
But a lot of people seems to interpret it as a 23 yo chick should be attracted to a 35 yo dude but nope...
Here's a way to interpret this concept that makes more sense.
When a 25yo dude thinks he should marry this 20yo chick because it seems like a good deal at this time, he is wrong and doesn't know because he fails to understand that give it 10 years, and she won't be worth much and he'll be worth a lot more. But thanks to alimony and shit like that, it "protects" women lol.
I guess what guys should really take from that chart is, don't even think of getting married or doing the whole family thing until you are at least in your 30s. In your 20s you haven't reached your full potential... can't take a solid decision.
clausternn 6y ago
What do you mean? In what way
room_303 6y ago
I think i've outlined it already. Redpill smv theory is flawed and contradictory.
clausternn 6y ago
Right but I don't understand in what way. Are you trying to say TRP claims old men have high SMV, while you're saying they have low SMV?
room_303 6y ago
If a 40 year old man is high to you, then yes they have a much higher smv than 20 year old college kids sitting next to high smv sluts.
blister333 6y ago
Move to big cities, you’ll see more of them
VasiliyZaitzev 6y ago
After 30, if you are high SMV - and for men that's not based on looks only, although that is a large component - AND you have strong frame AND you have made yourself exceptional in some way THEN life is pretty sweet. YOU do the picking because YOU are the Prize.
renopillars2 6y ago
Seems like other posts here disagree with you.
VasiliyZaitzev 6y ago
Hey, here's what I know: I don't worry about graphs and charts, or what other people think. I forge my own path in the world, and I'm happy with my life.
If you are an older, single guy, pretty much all you have to do to crush it in your own age group is (a) show up and (b) not be fat. That second thing basically automatically puts you in the top 30% of men; it's your job to the the rest of the way.
If, like me, you are an older man who prefers stuffing young muffins, then you need to understand how you can make that happen.
renopillars2 6y ago
Okay and what about social life and making new friends?
VasiliyZaitzev 6y ago
What about it? Same as if you're married except that you don't simply adopt your wife's friends by default.
FwoGiZ 6y ago
32yo... I am racking up $ for my future business for when I get the fck out of this country (Canada). I used to have living in gf but I don't think I'll ever do that again. Instead, I like to hangout with 2-3-4 dif girls and just enjoy my time with each of them. I try to stay in the 18-25 pool for the women I hangout with when I party and go camping and stuff. I like to organize events, parties, trips etc so my social life is well fufilled and I do hangout with younger people but also older people.. I have friends from 20yo all the way to 50s and even had a mid 60s friend for a while there. Age means nothing to me... and a lot of women don't care much as long as you don't act "older" which is what they'll say about me... I don't act old... lol whatever that means. I guess what they're actually saying is I don't have oneitis and am not needy.
I will NEVER get married and will NEVER have kids. I have a chihuahua and a parrot which any women will deeply fall in love with... my house is a pool bar party place. I play tons of sports, hit the gym 4 times a week, am an extremely ressourceful guy. My life is setup this way and I'd never change anything.
_Ulan_ 6y ago
Let's see what they will turn out when the mid-life crisis starts, and their wife doesn't match their standards anymore.
showerdudes9 6y ago
Ive never in my life met a high smv male at 30+ who isnt in ltr or married
randarrow 6y ago
How old are you? Will shade the answers.
RedSkeller 6y ago
Most of my friends are married or in serious live in LTRs and I'm in my early 30s. All the guys in my fraternity, the frat kings who were legendary at parties and got a good job are all married to or in the direction of marrying women of the same age and the women are good looking, although their best years are obviously in the rear view. My close friends are mostly going through the motions, even though they have been successful in their careers or get paid well, I can tell they are unfulfilled. As someone who spent time volunteering and traveling the world in my 20s, I do my best to facilitate activities where we get together and do some sort of camping or something outside the box.
I honestly have no interest in 'hanging out' with people in my 20s. Either your my friend or relative and you've earned it, or we're not hanging out. Kids in their 20s are still kids, likely insecure about something they need to get over, are focused on the wrong things and lack perspective due to inexperience. Not saying it's a bad crowd, but I hung out with enough of them when I was that age. I also have no interest in going out, social media or Netflix that consumes people. Just not my thing, which helps me focus on the important things like my career, gym time, reading or working on myself.
In my opinion it's just about keeping your options open and knowing I can produce if needed. When I was in my 20s, I had a decent poker face and some charm but I was still going out on the weekends and trying to pull ass. Now I don't give a fuck and getting laid takes a backseat to my goals, which in turn, makes me that much more attractive. I have no problem being with younger women, and I exclusively pursue that.
So things aren't a night and day change over, but it's a shift to something different. It's no surprise things you do today will impact tomorrow and working towards things is the only way to get them closer to you. Expecting to wake up in your 30s and have everything at your feet is a mythical illusion. However, everything I had planned for and made steps towards my ideal life have worked out one way or another and I am truly proud of my accomplishments, much more so then when I was younger. That's all it is.