My LTR and I live together . I moved in with her ( probably my first mistake ) and I didn’t realize until a while after that she is a HUUUUGE slob. I mean she literally never cleans up after herself, she doesn’t make her kids clean up after themselves, and the house is just constantly a wreck. I naturally clean up after myself but I refuse to go behind her and the kids and clean up their messes. What is the red pill way of reversing this disaster and actually getting her and the kids to change this behavior or is it even possible at this stage in her life since women mentally mature around 18 ?
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FixYourselfFirst 7y ago
I moved in with her ... and her kids
LOL
EDIT: Don't cohabitate. Read this from the sidebar.
Move out, get your own place. This is TRP advice. If you can't follow this advice, you are not following TRP.
redpeaks 7y ago
This guy fixes
csawyer86 7y ago
Thanks for the advice ????
FixYourselfFirst 7y ago
Don't cohabitate. Read this from the sidebar.
Move out, get your own place. This is TRP advice. If you can't follow this advice, you are not following TRP.
That_Deaf_Guy 7y ago
his username is relevant though. Move out, invite her to your place and reward her accordingly, punish if you get invited to hers and its a mess.
BrenHam2 7y ago
Sounds like you're looking at the rest of your life right there dude. Where can we send the bereavement flowers?
LodestarAuriga 7y ago
Think about it: If you're getting an important guest in your house, no matter how much of a slob you are, you'll try to tidy things up. Even if you live together, you need to keep the household in order, simply out of respect. And she's a woman, she's biologically engineered to responsibly administer a household and the resources you decide to provide.
Do you see where i'm going with this? She doesn't care what you think about her mess. She doesn't care if you're comfy or not, heck, maybe she expects that you'll wear an apron and clean the dishes before changing the diapers of someone else's kid. She's got you in her palm and in her frame, my friend.
And you deserve better. Why would you want a woman who's unable to at least keep a clean house? That's not just failed woman, that's a failed human. If you were just banging her then fine. But you're clearly trying to involve and investing in a LTR with a sad person who's bringing you down. The time you invest cleaning her dishes used to be the time you used to improve yourself. Everyday you spend with her, you are worth less. Cause you do less, cause you've become less: a housemaid.
It's not like women love housemaids and feminity in a man.
Recognize the oneitis. Reclaim your life and realize: You're a man and a winner. You can get a better girl. This one sucks.
Fucking leave. It's well known that TRP can't fix relationships nor broken women. Get a new one, one that knows you post-TRP, one that won't hinder your improvement.
HurricaneHugues 7y ago
By leaving her. Stop trying to change people. Why cant u just find yourself a girl that meets your criterias?
Why are u providing housing for a single mom that has MORE THAN ONE kid fromsome other dude or dudes that are not YOU? Would it really be that hard for you to get yourself a girl that isnt the reject of someone else and that isn't complete and absolute garbage? Like, you really cannot date any other living female in this galaxy but a girl whos already busted out two kids that fucking aren't even yours? Is this it? Is this the best you can get? Do you think it's a crime to have standards?
[deleted] 7y ago
Because that is the way of the cuckold.
GAndGMethod 7y ago
Dread
if that fails replace her.
You should never live with a women, If you have to because of kids or something you should at least have your own room or hold on to the property you had before you moved in together.
HurricaneHugues 7y ago
Fuck dread. He needs to ends this fucking bullshit. Hes cohabitating with a single mom that has kids.
GAndGMethod 7y ago
Thought they were his kids.
Yeah gtfo.
Best_Chorizo 7y ago
I think you should see the red flags everywhere and stop with that oneitis. You're trying to fix an LTR but it's too late imo. You're already 100% in her frame.
TheRedPillMonkey 7y ago
You give her no consequences, she gives you no shits.
As others said, dread her. Don't discuss it with her, don't call her out on it. Dread her.
Start being distant and act like you don't need her. She stopped trying to impress you because she thinks she owns you.
Prove her wrong...
csawyer86 7y ago
I needed to read this. I have been spending 5 days a week at the gym lifting and my body is changing rapidly. I’m starting to get more attention from other women including her friends. I think , as you and everyone else has said that I’m not giving any consequences so she doesn’t give a shit about my comfort.
csawyer86 7y ago
Also, I’ve ( unknowingly until recently ) been hovering around step 4 or 5 of dread. What do I do when she notices me being distant and starts to say something about it? Is this when holding from and knowing how to pass shit tests comes into play?
TheRedPillMonkey 7y ago
Not really shit tests at this point. It's more about holding frame.
The thing you have to internalize, really believe and not just tell yourself, is that if this shit isn't going to change, you're going to move on. You can't tell yourself that, can't repeat it like some self help bullshit. It has to be how you really feel.
Then, that behaviour of not rewarding her shit will start oozing through. She's not the prize, you are. So she better start upping her game if she wants to keep you. Otherwise you'll bail for some younger, bustier, lighter, and tighter chick and never think about this broad again.
Get that attitude and watch her change. If not, move on. Just remember this, if she doesn't respond then the way it currently is, is the best it will ever be. Is it really good enough to stick around and waste your time with?
Ricklogical 7y ago
Dread?
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