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twdziki 5y ago
It's a waste of time if you suck or are stuck in a place with really crappy dating scene. Otherwise it's a very time-efficient way to get laid. And you're not risking poisoning your social circle if things go sour.
Rollo_Mayhem3 5y ago
easy way to get laid bros. have some decent pics and just invite her out for a drink within the first 4-5 texts. Meet up, arrive 5 mins late, either she will buy a drink and wait for you or you just buy the first round and by the end of the drink, kiss her, then ask her to get the next round, finish that drink and move to the next place preferably a darker and dancing venue to make out and grab her ass, in my opinion the ass grab is key to set the stage, it shows dominance and should sufficiently give her an indicator what you want. etc... then after she's sufficeintly hot, say let's go and grab her hand, make out in the cab on the way to her or your place...that's it. I just did this three days in a row, the exact same protocol. Encounter zero resistance.
Only caveat is that I am higher in age and so are the women (late 20s-early 30s) and this is fucking clean-up. Just make sure you can see yourself f-king her and if she is relatively unattractive or misrepresented herself, a) do not buy her a drink b) mention that you have some place to be in an hour c) watch her buy you a drink and escalate d) do whatever you want at that point
Peter_B_Long 5y ago
What's important here is the kino and escalation. Notice how Mayhem said to kiss her after the first drink? That's 15-20 mins after meeting her. What you really want to do is not waste your time. How do you know if a girl is attracted to you? Escalation and kino. Make a move, if she rejects you, laugh it off, pull away, and try again later. If she rejects you again, say that you gotta go, and hard next her. Obviously she isn't attracted to you so you just leave and try with someone else.
wellsking 5y ago
This is pretty much exactly what I do too - meet at a waterfront bar in my city and follow the same steps, works so well but always have something else lined up (link up with mates, another girl etc) in case the dates turn out crap!
BusterVadge 5y ago
Exactly. Women are not on tinder for bible study or to find a husband. Most are there for sex and sex only.
The only thing I can really add to this is that they want to feel comfortable "i.e.: Not a slut.". So they need some kind of comfort or reassurance that you don't think she's a ho.
I think that your approach works so well because you come in like a whirlwind and the
anti slut excuse that they can use later is "It all happened so fast and I don't know what came over me".
RandomTRPan0n 5y ago
I thought they were there "only to make friends"
poochman 5y ago
This is gold. You don't ever mention where you are going when you grab her hand and say let's go?
jon94 5y ago
She already knows.
BurningOrangeHeaven 5y ago
Is dancing crucial in the modern hit and quit interaction? I know I'm not the only guy who dislikes dancing.
Rollo_Mayhem3 5y ago
It's not that I actually dance with her (although i can) but she'll dance or shake her hips a little and it creates an acceptable atmosphere to put your hands on her waist and ass. You need to provide plausible deniability. "We were just dancing" get it? Most of the time my hand is just sitting on her waist as the music plays and we stand at the bar or club sipping our drink. Better is live music or DJ, where she stands facing the band and you stand to her side or behind hugging her or hand on waist. You "dance" a little and feel her ass, if she lets u, then you keep it their going forward NOT creepy... obviously if she goes to get a beet ot use the bathroom you drop your hand or when you are doing something. Its like your hand is there but you dont care if it is or not. Get it?
Edit: i will squeeze the ass when the time is right, usually when i am kissing her extensively or in my case most recently i am making eye contact with her and i am displaying dominance as if i am saying i own this ass, it's mine, with a little smile.
ethical_pa 5y ago
Are you white and avg or above good looking?
twdziki 5y ago
Yes, I'm white. Average-looking though, some people could even say that below average, since I have kind of weird facial features and they can be hit-or-miss with chicks. But I dress well, I'm in a decent shape and have a cool-sounding job that also pays decent money (and chicks can see that).
It's enough to pull HB6-7 on Tinder. If I really dedicated myself to the game and got a nice beach body, I'd probably be able to pull even higher than that.
ajs_rb26 5y ago
You guys have to stop with this “you can only get laid if you’re white” bullshit. Tinder is very easy for me and I am 5’7 half white half Hispanic, I’ve had multiple same day tinder and bumble lays. I am fairly good looking but I’m also ripped, 2 things that you can control (hygiene, haircut, style, diet, gym) I also live in NYC. If you live in a big city and half good pictures it shouldn’t be a problem, there are 6ft+ black guys that some women fetishize, so cut the excuses.
empatheticapathetic 5y ago
The race concern is location based, OP just doesn’t know that.
ethical_pa 5y ago
“you can only get laid if you’re white”
I never claimed that at all. That's not what the discussion is about. The claim I made is that Tinder is much easier and efficient when you are white. I'd be curious to see your profile, but I understand if you don't want to share it. PM me if you do. I'd like to see what works for non whites.
JamalChic 5y ago
Of course he is. None of this bullshit works if youre an average to below average non white. I wish my black ass would try to attempt a kiss when I first meet, if it comes to a meet up in the first place, or a match.
White privilege > Seduction
ethical_pa 5y ago
My mixed race ass has been able to kiss on the first meeting, but my matches are SUPER low. Like, I can go for a month without a match. Which makes it worse because I then don't bother swiping as much, which means even less matches.
So for some guys, it's a " very time-efficient way to get laid " but for others, it's an exercise in feeling scarcity. I think I might cut it out of my life again...
JamalChic 5y ago
And when you do match its a warpig or bot.
I mean like kiss literally when you show up as the white male above me advised. Pua was spearheaded by tall ,good lookibg white males, so its success will always be predicated on that framework. Paul janka can litetally be a male model. Mystery is above average and tall.Rsd tyler is good looking enough to be entitled to as many asian and Latinas as he lives (which is why the mother of his kids is Latina; all white males in his looks range are entitled to easy ethnic pussy) . I cry when I see these short , ugly ethnic guys who are so DELUSIONAL thinking they can have abundance with 7s, 8s, 9s and 10s. I really do ,man. In 6 months hell be on these forums also crying, where white males will tell him he has a victim complex and he fails because he hasn't done the ultra ,special , super ,secret technique.
ethical_pa 5y ago
Hmm. Ya. I've gotten with good looking white girls (mostly from offline game), but almost always, upon digging a bit, I find out that they have a history of liking non-white guys. Nothing wrong with that at all. I just wish sometimes women would be more up front about their whites only attitude. It would save me a lot of time and wasted effort. Like seriously, they should wear a little "whites only" badge or something. Just so we know not to waste time with them. ;)
JamalChic 5y ago
Are you black white?
TheGatesOfValhalla 5y ago
Get the fuck out of here with that shit. TRP is about taking responsibility for yourself and molding the world for yourself. Not complaining about “white privilege” or some other bullshit excuse of why you can’t get what you want.
JamalChic 5y ago
lol , you can try to mold shit into the shape of a pancake and put whip cream on it: It's still SHIT. I don't believe in that redpill shit because im a realist. Will i ever be as good as michael jordan at basketball? No i will not. That isn't a fucking limiting belief, it simply wont happen . Will a 5'5 , ugly, balding indian have an abundant dating life filled with 8's, 9's and 10's? No he wont and it's never been demonstrated. There's only so far you can go if you aren't white ; White privilege pervades literally any and every context of life imaginable, especially dating. The data proves it: https://theblog.okcupid.com/race-and-attraction-2009-2014-107dcbb4f060
dulkemaru51 5y ago
Will a 5'5, ugly, frog-eyed, white ginger have an abundant dating life filled with 8s 9s and 10s?
JamalChic 5y ago
You can get non white 7s,8s and 9s. loool.
thetotalpackage7 5y ago
go create some of your own black privilege then you fuckin cry baby. there are 40 million other black people in the country. that's not enough people to get some shit going? go create a black tinder. plus you have million of other white liberals kissing your ass with a bunch of other free perks.
JamalChic 5y ago
Check your privilege.
thetotalpackage7 5y ago
Check your victim status...no one give a shit around here.
juju515 5y ago
lol dude... grow some balls and stop with the victim mentality...
if you wanna cry go cry somewhere else... TRP isn't for crybabies...
JamalChic 5y ago
Nah, you're just retarded, im simply stating the reality which is what the redpill is all about. You guys are actually dealing in reality. Facts> Feelings You a sjw or what bro? lol
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chazthundergut 5y ago
Do you use this excuse for why you're failing in your career too? Or just dating?
Iwannachokekatie 5y ago
"I'm black" is much more of a valid excuse for a shitty career than shitty sex life.
JamalChic 5y ago
White privilege pervades literally every context of life, yes.
chazthundergut 5y ago
Damn this will be a difficult prison for you to escape. Good luck dude.
JamalChic 5y ago
You too bitch nigga.
chazthundergut 5y ago
:)
JamalChic 5y ago
God bless you cracka.
chazthundergut 5y ago
Lol thanks you too you poor black devil!
You still haven't gotten my racial slur right btw. Try sand-nigger or goat-fucker that'll really give me the burn!
4matting 5y ago
You need to build a top 20% profile. Shitty pics, and beta bio will get you swiped left even if you are a top 20% in real life.
Get great pics that casually show how awesome you and your life is.
When messaging, follow this one rule: "always be closing"
oyoungpadawan 5y ago
what's a beta bio look like?
4matting 5y ago
Anything that's too wordy. Keep it short and sweet. All you need is to show your interests, be exciting, and be a little mysterious.
"I love to travel the world, and live life to the fullest"
"Life is about adventure, good food, and great people"
Don't think too hard about it, the bio is as unimportant as the bios on Instagram. The sale starts and ends with the pictures.
lordvoltano 5y ago
I had one success in Tinder out of hundreds of matches. She was a real cutie fresh out of college, I'd say a solid 7.5/10. She was looking for a boyfriend but I managed to conditioned her as a plate. She moved on eventually, getting herself a proper boyfriend. But a couple times a year we still met up to shag. She's married now and had recently contacted me and said she regret her decision to get married to this guy. I'm still undecided if I wanna tap that ass again.
I think the key here is there's no guaranteed way to get laid on Tinder. The girl need to be in the right mindset, while you need to be the right kind of 'interesting' in her eyes. What I mean by interesting is to be out of the norm of the guys she usually meet throughout her day. As I'm definitely not a Chad, I use my 'intelligence' to capture those self proclaimed 'sapiosexuals'.
Psychological_Radish 5y ago
Guys are gonna hamster Tinder depending on their own personal circumstances, just like the eternal Game vs. Looks debate (of which this is an offshoot).
If you consistently fail on dating apps, then you're going to rationalize that by claiming irl is better anyway,Tinder is just out to make money, the girls are unrealistically picky, etc.
If you're successful with Tinder, then you say stuff like it's dating on easy mode, dudes who have banged dozens of chicks, etc.
The truth is, as always, somewhere in the middle. Tinder is certainly not a waste of time, as many men can attest. It's simply another tool in the toolbelt. How you choose to allocate your time to pulling women (online vs. real life) is going to depend on personal circumstances. Aesthetically gifted men (or just those who understand how to take good pictures) will slay. Others will have to rely more on Game.
humzy 5y ago
You don't have to be white to have success on tinder you just have to be good looking (although I am guessing its different per country/area).
One thing I noticed though is that there is a large group of girls who will flake me once I tell them my ethnicity. They expect me to be Brazilian or something but background is actually Pakistani. I didn't realise how racist women are until I got on this app haha.
I am a good looking dude who is ripped so I am fairly successful with tinder but it is a lot of wasted energy. A bit of a crutch to be honest.
I use it when I am not socially active due to being busy with work/business.
clausternn 5y ago
Meanwhile I'm Brazilian but people expect me to be American or German or something.
XT3M3 5y ago
i have been travelling a lot this year. tinder and bumble has more use as trying to get a hookup in a foreign place rather than trying to get one at home. ( moreso once your profile shows you arent from the area)
girls are alot more open and sluty when there a high chance you'll never see each other again or have contact with their people.
thats how i see it. want proof ? spoof your location to some new place. watch the magic
RedpilledChris 5y ago
I’ve seen this when traveling for work. You are right.
Morphs_ 5y ago
Also, Tinder puts people who are in a new location on top of the stacks. So when you are visiting a new big city, loads of women will see your profile. Just log in, swipe a bit and then wait for a few hours. By then you should have a lot of women who swiped right on you. Tinder tends to show those profiles quite quickly once you start swiping again, this is the best way to use Tinder.
[deleted] 5y ago
Its a waste of time, and its taught me nothing other than I have to invest more time in my phone in order to get dates. I would rather go out and aim for something in public, and work on my IRL game.
TRPdoctor 5y ago
Tinder is only a waste of time if you are doing it wrong. I did it wrong for a long time and deleted the app. I gave it another shot a few years ago and it is actually the easiest way to get laid.
Good pictures and being a decent looking guy are key. This will get them to swipe right but that's only the first part. Lie about your height in your bio. Girls are stupid.
You need to be able to send a few messages and not sound needy. Then ask for the number because the app is "creepy" or "drains your battery".
Once you have their number tell them that you either want to facetime or have her send you a selfie to make sure that she isn't catfishing you. I have had way more success if they agree to facetime. This ensures that you wont be awkward if you meet up so she is more likely to go hang out with you. Plan a hangout within 2 days if possible.
Make sure that you are the one that says when it is time to end the "date". Start kino as soon as you meet her. Don't "build up" to the kiss at the end of the night, get it out of the way asap.
syn1us 5y ago
I'm Chad himself so I do get a lot of matches. The flaking is unreal though, and only half the numbers end up in something in the real world. I honestly prefer real-time interactions, real game is superior to online dating.
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RedpilledChris 5y ago
Orbiters. Yup.
JamalChic 5y ago
MUH r/truefemcels
Yeralt 5y ago
I've dated a 5/10 once in my life and talking about men he has been with or kissed in his life she said 7, she is 19y/o, its amazing how there are 6-7/10 guys in my engineering degree that remain virgin at 21, girls play in absofuckinglutely easy mode
ethical_pa 5y ago
eh.... what?
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empatheticapathetic 5y ago
He fucked up the male/female
Yeralt 5y ago
Yeah, sorry i forgot a S
plenty_of_eesh 5y ago
Pretty much all of the comments here are more useful or insightful than this "article".
It sounds like it was written by a 14 year old.... Or a 19 year old who was told "write as much as you can without saying anything so they keep scrolling and seeing the sneakers ads..."
The title mentions tinder but the article is about "sending a message and getting no response". It's probably copy-pasta from 2006 that was originally written about OkCupid...
Anyway.
Interesting discussion in the comments so I guess it was worth it?
RedpilledChris 5y ago
I just wanted to show some taste on how girls get a lot of orbiters.
Caspero444 5y ago
If you say one wrong word or sentence they will ghost you. If you make plans days or a week away most likely will never happen. Most guys are talking to a few women at a time. Most women talking to dozens or more guys. You get bumped out of the rotation in a nano-second. Worst thing about Tinder is it creates the mindset that people are disposable commodities.
[deleted] 5y ago
This. In my experience it only works with chicks that don't have that big of a social circle IRL and rely on Tinder to get their fix, or hot ones who are batshit insane - which are still good for a ONS but they don't come around very often on Tinder.
ethical_pa 5y ago
One thing about tinder and the like too: It's good for women who don't want an LTR, but don't want to sleep around in their social circle due to... reputation concerns. Slut shaming, really.
They can easily pick through a catalog of men. Drop huge shit tests right off the bat (legitimately; for their safety, and to make sure they don't waste time with a dud, etc), and next guys with ease.
And she can always use plausible deniability to protect her reputation: "I'm trying to meet Mr right, but I can never seem to meet the right guy. All they want is sex, uhhg."
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clausternn 5y ago
What huge shit tests are those?
ethical_pa 5y ago
Just the regular. Challenge your frame. See how much you try to placate. See how butthurt you get. Generally throw shit your way to see how you reply. Just more intense. More personal, and/or more outrageous.
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clausternn 5y ago
Do you have any examples off the top of your head?
Dartleather 5y ago
I am very successful with Tinder purely because I look really good, have great pictures doing cool shit + social proof, and my text game is strong. I get dates with 8+ regularly.
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But because I am beta it all falls apart in person.
RedpilledChris 5y ago
That’s so easy to fix: read The Rational Male, No More Mr. Guy and The Rules of Attraction are you are all set!
W_O_M_B_A_T 5y ago
Tinder is a waste of time for most guys because most guys have photos that are boring AF and vaguely annoying.
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cobalt1728 5y ago
Total waste of time
Bedtimeshine 5y ago
It’s a waste of time for any man with self respect
Morphs_ 5y ago
I don't consider myself a complete Chad, yet I know physically I'm in the upper 5%-ish bracket of guys my age group (I'm 37).
Tinder has worked VERY WELL for me, so overall I tend to dislike these Tinder bashing threads. Yes the algorithm of Tinder sucks, with its match throttling etc. But it still has gotten me more lays than any other method.
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Get some decent pictures, make a clear profile text that weeds out the BB seeking women, and you're set.
RedpilledChris 5y ago
But you just said it - you are at 5% top. If you weren’t, your reality would be different. Don’t you think?
Morphs_ 5y ago
Of course, here's the kicker: I don't have any particular physical trait that made me up there. I have a normal face, usually a 3-5 day beard since that looks best on me and I've been a dancing teacher for more than 10 years. It's through the dancing and lifting that I've reached my current physical level. Any guy can achieve that.
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I've been with 30+ girls from tinder, while not being jacked. It's a numbers game. Granted I have a "script" that I'll use on girls that guarantees success with the ones who aren't just seeking validation.
Thing about tinder is you've got to shoot down SMV wise, so I only use it when I'm REALLY horny and want a ONS. If you want quality girls you'll have to grow a pair and do it in the real world.
clausternn 5y ago
And what would that be?
For me I usually say their first name as an opener, or comment something on her profile. After that the conversation can go anywhere... sometimes to a good place, sometimes to a bad one.
RedpilledChris 5y ago
Good points
always_sad12 5y ago
Where do you game in the real world?
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Social circle, bars, events, while I'm waiting for my food at the to-go counter of a restaurant, grocery store while shopping etc...
Basically, life.
ANGRY_ATHEIST 5y ago
There are some decent points here, but I have been using online dating since the late 90's, across almost every site there is or has been. It absolutely is a numbers game, it always has been.
Before Tinder, online dating was simply not socially acceptable. Just about everyone online (yes, Tinder is online too) was desperate. During my early days, I got some dates, but the women were just the worst. Cliche things like looking nothing like her pictures, to even outright smelling bad. While it may be arguable that much of my time online was pre-TRP, I believe that online dating is constantly evolving, and becoming more socially acceptable in a way. Tinder is quite a bit more passe than it used to be (Bumble seems to have better luck these days), however, there are still a few facts to consider.
High SMV women do not use online dating.
They simply do not need to. They already have enough attention from orbiters or otherwise in real life. If you see an attractive woman on a dating site, you can pretty much guarantee that there is a reason she is there. She is also banging at least 3 different dudes a week. If you don't use protection, you will catch an STD from these hoes. This is even true for sites like christianmingle where the women claim to be "good girls" etc.
Women on these sites literally get 100's of messages a day.
If you want any sort of luck, you need to stick out from the crowd, big time. This is one of the main reasons it's a numbers game, even if you're in the top 20%, the chances are she won't even open your message.
Even women who genuinely want a "real" relationship from these sites get constantly pumped-and-dumped.
I have got to the point where I can look at a woman's profile and tell exactly where she is in the burnout process. At first they love the outdoors and music. After the first 40 dudes (the exact numbers are difficult to tell since women lie about this, this is just my estimation), she'll state she doesn't want to play games. 80 or so dicks into it, she'll specifically put in her profile that she is "NOT LOOKING FOR A HOOKUP!" After so long, they'll just delete their profiles and tell all their friends that online dating is for losers.
If your numbers are high enough, you can get lucky... but it's very rare. You are much better off expanding your social circle or gaming IRL.
TheLongerCon 5y ago
This is complete nonsense that guys who suck at tinder tell themselves to feel better, I'm a black male and I managed to bang hot white chicks on tinder. It's way more efficient then cold approaches.
Especially in the age where everyone is constantly moving to new cities, good looking women use tinder to meet up with guys all the time.
Not really. Women are pickier with who they swipe with, and most men have terrible text game, and garbage pictures. Being on the top 20% on tinder isn't even as hard as it is in a club, because by simply have decent pictures and text banter you can rise above better looking men easily.
ANGRY_ATHEIST 5y ago
Don't get me wrong, I have banged hot chicks, I'd call HB8's, from a lot of sites. Spun several plates that way. I have just seen a lot better results from IRL game.
I have also personally seen these women's inboxes, and if they're only getting 25 a day they are ugly. 400+ for the HB8's is easy.
And I stand by my word, the real 10's you won't find on Tinder or Bumble or whatever else they come up with next.
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TheLongerCon 5y ago
Ahh poor thing, what's wrong? You have no game and can't compete with black guys? Or maybe you're just too ugly to be on tinder?
lmao i love hearing your whining, nothing gives me more pleasure.
RedpilledChris 5y ago
Wow - this is one of the most insightful comments here. Thanks for sharing and ABSOLUTELY AGREE with you!
The guys saying its pretty easy to get laid or they get 8’s and 9’s its because are either Chads and don’t know it/don’t consider themselves Chads because their bar is just way higher - or B) live in a saturated sexual marketplace like a big city or college town (or both).
I am 33. Fairly in shape and good looking (you can see how I look from my previous post in r/intermitentfasting) - and only get matched with 5-7’s. I’ve got decend hook ups but I feel is a lot of work and rather spin plates IRL.
Rollo_Mayhem3 5y ago
It's true my market is saturated three large colleges within 5 miles disproportionately women student body (pretty much anywhere nowadays) and mid-sized city with tons of bars and clubs. But i am mostly banging college graduates. But the principles of meeting and fucking are the same whereecer you go
ANGRY_ATHEIST 5y ago
Here's some real RP knowledge on you...
Use these 5-7's you find online and create your own social circle. Get them all to compete for you and the 10's will come out of hiding to see what all the hubbub is about.
Then you use IRL game and make your move.
Morphs_ 5y ago
> Get them all to compete for you and the 10's will come out of hiding to see what all the hubbub is about.
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So how do you make them compete? Do you tell them about all your other plates? I just don't see how you pull out those 10's.
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Personally I like to keep plates out of my social circles and don't bother entering theirs. Maybe I should, multiple plates have told me about their female friends getting all interested in me after hearing their enthusiastic stories about me.
ANGRY_ATHEIST 5y ago
Make them compete for your attention. Keep them in the friend zone.
Remember that men are the gatekeepers or relationships.
Morphs_ 5y ago
So you purposely don't have sex with them?
ANGRY_ATHEIST 5y ago
Have sex with them or don't, the point is don't commit
JamalChic 5y ago
If you're white it's good, even if you're average . Every white male is born with the unalienable right of the entitlement to ethnic vagina.
The founding fathers were quite clear on this, and I quote : "Neither the existing currycel , ricecell , or kfccel population, their descendents, nor any others shall be permitted to enjoy the fruits of White society."
ThatDudeEric90 5y ago
My man! You are an angel or something because I JUST came to my senses about this BS.
Long story short i'm over the flakes because of reasons like this. They have a MASSIVE abundance of cocks to choose from and maybe if you talk to them on the right day of their ovulation cycle you'll get a meet up.
I've banged a few off Tinder so it has served me well about 20% of the time. The other is just 80% women seeking self validation.
My opinion, you're going to download and try it out. You will. You may or may not meet someone and you may or may not fuck. I don't know anything about you but based off my history and women I know who use it, they're there for the free meal/drink/orbiter and just possibly sex.
My suggestion, since you're going to download it anyway don't go into it with high hopes. Keep practicing your day/night game and meet women in person. It's much more fulfilling. Just use the Tinder app for when you're taking a shit or something.
[deleted] 5y ago
It is a waste of time. I had over 5k matches in my old profile in the span of a year and out of those I managed to pull 30 women, mostly 5 and 6s. I used it when I was traveling a lot so at least half of those were way too far to do anything when we got to set up a date.
It's a numbers game and depends heavily on where you're located and the dating scene there.
Almost all women use it solely for validation and you won't get them out of that frame because they already have plenty of cock in real life to choose from. Why would they bother grabbing drinks with a rando off Tinder if they can go to chad's house get boned all night.
Cold approach or even night game is so much more effective. Out of 10 approaches you'll pull 1 chick, whereas with Tinder, out of 100 matches you'll be lucky if you pull 1.
MrGoodStuff05 5y ago
I'm glad more people are starting to get it. I swear some people here might be tinder marketing team.
[deleted] 5y ago
Right? Online dating is a joke. You're always in disadvantage.
cobalt1728 5y ago
Agreed, waste of time
HS-Thompson 5y ago
Maybe maybe not. But you can match with hundreds of people in an app with like zero effort. You can take a shit, or take a subway, and set up an appointment to fuck.
You can literally be drowning in pussy forever if you just get your pipeline going. It got to the point where I gave up on drinks meetings (unless I felt like having a drink) and stuck strictly to girls coming straight to my apartment to fuck, with no talking first. There's literally no way to get that kind of success with real life approaches only, it's fundamentally impossible.
The key, however, is you have to be in a big city. I'm in NYC. If you're in a random small town or suburb then it's an entirely different story. But if you live in a real city Tinder is a fucking goldmine. If you're not having success in that context it's 100% because you're doing something wrong.
RedpilledChris 5y ago
I was thinking yersterday that online dating is like real state: LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION.
When I lived in Philadelphia I was pulling good looking girls out of online dating before smartphones were a thing. Meaning less ppl were doing online dating and I was able to pull decently. Now I am back to my small- heavily religious town and it’s really hard to get by anything other than 5’s or 6’s.
satellite779 5y ago
NYC has more single women than men. On the west coast it's much harder, especially in tech/military centers. So many of my colleagues are thinking of moving to NYC just because of male/female discrepancy.
clausternn 5y ago
What kinda discrepancy are we talking about, percentage-wise?
DubbleFUPAwitCheez 5y ago
I think of it the same way you think of cold calling or going to conventions in a business. If you get 1% of the clients (girls) to buy (fuck) that you interact with this way that's 1 out of 100. For such low effort it's pretty good. I think I averaged 3-8% when I was doing work on tinder but that was a couple years ago, might be different. I think the mentality should be the same though.
xddm2653 5y ago
I remember tinder was the shit in 2015. Literally first match was a hot girl looking to get fucked. Skewed my expectations of it but I had good results for about a year.
Waste of time now
PR0JECT_XIII 5y ago
I haven't used dating apps since I decided to take the red pill. I have it on my phone (tinder) but I haven't bothered activating my account.
Previous experience would say average. It's a hit and miss, sometimes you just say the right thing at the right time and you get laid, others you have to put in a bit of work.
The reason I haven't bothered with tinder since adopting red pill philosophy is that I want to create an abundance in the real world, and as stated by Rollo in the rational male, dating apps are buffers.
Dating apps should suppliment your sexual strategy, rather than being your only supply - not my own idea, just something I remember reading from an endorsed contributor.
Take my comment as a grain of salt, I am no way a wealth of knowledge, but as I continue to change my understanding of reality and sexual strategy it pays to go back to the basics.
kyromanji 5y ago
I've gotten laid multiple times on tinder, average of HB7 and most of the time didn't have to meet up at a bar. I always messaged first, made small talk, ask for the SC, then talk to em on there. Immediately progress the convo to sexual, plan a chill date and the rest is history. I'm not a Chad but I'm really handsome and tall. My demeanor is chill/cocky/aloof and it works for me
RedpilledChris 5y ago
Sounds a Chad to me :) - good work really. I get a LOT of 6’s and 7’s - and the 7’s aren’t worth taking to. I hook up every 2-3 months whenever IRL plates are scarce.
[deleted] 5y ago
planning is the difference between getting laid and then wasting your time, action is needed instead of theory.
action rather than just mental masturbation.
CainPrice 5y ago
You don't have to be "Chad", just have good pictures and decent game. The women on Tinder -want- to have sex. They are hoping you don't suck because they want to meet you and let you make them feel good for an hour. It's such a disappointment when you say something stupid.
[deleted] 5y ago
No. The vast majority just want the validation. They already have plenty of cock IRL and will choose them over a rando they matched with on Tinder.
CainPrice 5y ago
I have only heard this from male self-help sites like this one. This phenomenon where women will message you for days but never meet, or will meet and swindle you for free drinks and never fuck you. It doesn't happen to most guys.
Out in the real world, women on Tinder want to have sex. It's really easy and convenient to window shop for a cute guy when none of their ex-boyfriends or previous hookup partners are available.
Women do not want to put on a dress and spend half an hour fixing their hair and makeup and meet a guy from the internet, all for free drinks and feeling good about themselves because the guy is paying them attention, then go home without getting penetrated. They are hoping the guy is good enough to fuck, and disappointed when he isn't.
RedpilledChris 5y ago
Agree. Many are there to gain validation. Not hooking up.
RedSkeller 5y ago
I'm not Chad but last year I was averaging about 2.3 lays a month off Tinder. This year been busier but really just getting burnt out on it. I've met some interesting people, mostly chicks that are crazy/weird/thots/real winners and have no idea why they're going to be cat ladies. For the most part, tinder is having good pictures and paying to win (tinder gold is almost necessary). I'll get a match a day (a good match mind you), but with gold and the initial account boost you start off with close to 50 about 10 - 15 of which are decent. For the moment I'm taking a break from it and have been doing bumble.
orezavi 5y ago
Which city are you in?
purplefidgetmidget 5y ago
This is not the sub for this kind of shitpost, stick to theredpill subreddit to post crap theories
All you need is a good photo, photoshop it, myspace angles, whatever. Once the matches roll in use standard tinder shit.
Toxik6 5y ago
I’ve personally gotten nothing from it and feels like a huge waste of time.
[deleted] 5y ago
If you’re not getting laid in real life, you’re going to have an even harder time on Tinder.
youcantdenythat 5y ago
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Check out his online dating posts.
RandomTRPan0n 5y ago
I've been moderately successful.
Im a very harsh critic and rank myself as a slightly above average 6. In girl speak I was probably top 40% of guys on looks alone. Im average height and overweight with a 30% BF.
6 - easily attract these girls, I'd say i get 5 to 10 in a week who message me, LTR with two
7 - takes some game, but nothing outrageous, i get 1 or 2 a week on tinder. LTR with one
8 - multiple dates from tinder but never f closed one from tinder. but LTR with a few IRL.
9 - got into a weird snapchat sexting thing with a model from Rock solid tinder game. It was hot, but no f close. Pure dumb luck mixed with dry humor worked.
10 - never
Tinder game is something else entirely. A good rule of thumb is you should be able to get your equivalent rank easily and can game up two ranks with some practice.
Id say my tinder game was strong. I improved my pictures, got a solid opener, and committed to witty banter. I only used the app late at night and purposely gamed the ELO system to improve my chances.
atticusfinch1973 5y ago
I have always had a great time with Tinder, but then I’m attractive and have decent text and in person game.
Plus in my demographic of mid 30’s to 40’s there’s lots of desperate post wall women if you just want to get laid.
RedpilledChris 5y ago
Lol - I am 33 but still only like dating pre-wall 25 YOs.
klo2145 5y ago
Even if you match with her you still have to stand out from all of the hundreds of other guys that she matched with. And believe me she matched with hundreds of other guys. That's assuming the girl is even serious and isn't it doing it just to boost her own ego.
Psilotheos 5y ago
99% looking for validation.. Sad reality of Tinder
tchower 5y ago
The hottest girls I hooked up with I always met in person, never online or on the internet. Just me personally. So I think there’s a lot of truth in what you’re saying.
SpinPlates 5y ago
Tinder takes minimal effort. Every guy should throw a profile together and swipe right every few days. There is no reason not to.
It's very efficient and if you're a decent looking guy in a major city you can do well.
Sick_Of_IT_2855 5y ago
Not good looking or chad,or big or myscular with tatoos,so my experience has been devastatingly horrible. My depression gets worse after being on there.
TRPKiddo 5y ago
I’m not a chad at all and I get a bunch of matches. I don’t have professional pictures. I have one selfie and a one line bio.
clausternn 5y ago
If that's true, you're underestimating your attractiveness.
WellEducatedAgni 5y ago
Can we see your profile?
cptgoatsack 5y ago
It's the dumpster diving of hookups. Be sure you wear a rubber, or maybe two.
Aurora921 5y ago
What's the question, man? Bad looks don't kill the game entirely but good looka certainly make the game easier. I got lays from Tinder when I was 30kg overweight. Obviously not Model Tier but in the 5 to 6.5 range. Gotta lower those standards a bit in that vastly inflated marketplace. Still, go for it as any practice is good practice.
RedpilledChris 5y ago
Not a question really, just wanted to hear your experiences.
Aurora921 5y ago
You can use it om the side, just don't focus or rely on it for now. Work on yourself first and foremost.
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Aurora921 5y ago
Read again what I wrote.
oytrp 5y ago
A lot of guys think it's valuable because you can get laid from it.
The reality is, they are timid bitches who are afraid to approach in real life. If they put half the time they put into the app into a approaching in real life they would get twice the amount of lays.
Don't get me wrong, it has it's purpose. Sending a message at 2am and getting laid at 2:30 is a magical thing. But that's about all it's good for.
TonytheNetworker 5y ago
It varies. I had an ok time on Tinder a few years back. I was able to smash an 8 (she was a thot though, would've slept with anyone TBH) but that was about it after using it for 3 months and still being a beta. Now? I've improved my physical attractiveness, lost lots of weight, eating clean, get my hair cut more often, green contacts, dress better, etc. I get matches fairly often, I don't consider myself a Chad though, probably never will be, although I get a lot of messages like "You look like a fuckboy but you're cute hee hee."
HeskeeyTime 5y ago
He's cute but I think he's married to Kim
mallardcove 5y ago
Muh
I suck at Tinder
Muh
RedpilledChris 5y ago
LOL - I actually do decent, but wanted to share the article so orbiters know how it is. Gynocentric world has built an app for female validation and you need to know that if you want to ply the game.
orezavi 5y ago
How is using online dating apps not considered beta?