I am 25 and did 8 years of undergrad (first degree, then second) but only recently came to a realization that the easiest way to get laid here in Toronto is through Frats. It gives people a lot of friends that party, many female friends that will fuck you because you are part of the "scene", makes it easy to get a gf, keeps you "in the loop" of parties and it gives you a social circle. As someone who did not know anything about frats and who does cold approach, I realize that it requires a titanic amount of effort to get laid just from cold approach, especially if you don't have a large social circle with many girls.
Today I was perusing the facebook pages of frats at my university and was shocked by how many people I know are in them (includes both guys and girls). These people have no problems with women - now i know why.
Normally that would not be a cause for concern, but I will probably be graduating this year (last semester) and I have not had the privilege of being in a frat and going to their wild parties (I talked to a buddy who went to one a few weeks ago, he said some guy got laid 3 times in one night - he showed me a picture of the guy, he was not jacked at all. just some skinny dude that dresses well). I am thinking of taking a course on a part-time basis so that I can see if i can join a frat on campus.
I emailed the frats and they told me that in order to go to a more personal event, one needs to be a Brother.
Now that I've wasted all this time in undergrad without being in a frat and only 4 lays to show for it over 5 years, I don't know what I'm going to do in the real world as I have no social circle and don't know that many girls. Its fucking hard to get girls out on dates, especially given that i get no matches on tinder. If cold approach does not work in college, I imagine it only gets harder in the real world.
So my question is, what do i do now? How can i get into that party lifestyle, find out where all the great houseparties are and hookup outside of college? I don't want to rely on tinder, because i have no success in it and cold approach requires absurd levels of effort for the success i get.
Please help.
askmrcia 6y ago
Frats do hold parties but they don't hold all the parties. I swear its like you sat on your ass and watched Hollywood movies on Frats. And based on those movies the little shit you seen at a frat party makes you think it's orgy central.
Not all girls bang frat dudes and Frats aren't the only one hosting parties. The fact that you are asking this question makes me believe you have a long way to go.
There are plenty of clubs and social events in college to meet women. It's your fault that you decided to sit on your ass all day and play video games instead of participating in them.
Did your college have a homecoming dance? Spring festival? Does your college have clubs and they celebrate parties? Did you go to any Halloween party? Ice breaker party?
I don't know if Toronto is that different from schools in the USA, but there is plenty to do.
Joining a frat is going to guarantee that you will get laid. Alot of people think football players get all the girls. I played football at my college and believe me, most of my teammates weren't swarming in pussy.
Like any club in college you have to make the most of it. But you joining a frat just to get laid sounds desperate.
As for your question on where to meet women once school is over. You have plenty of options and that question has been answered a million times over. I've been to frat parties and the best parties in my life was after I graduated in college.
jackandjill22 6y ago
Hm
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
I don't care if not all girls do it, all the attractive ones i know seem to be in sororities and probably have banged a frat dude or two.
Such as? I don't care much for student politics or "university psychology club". i can't really meet women through soccer or weightlifting either.
That's true. That's why I am trying to catch up on what i missed - a crash course so to say.
Wtf is homecoming dance? Spring festival? We don't have those, we just have 'parties' at clubs. I wanted to go to a sick house party.
Why else do people join frats if not to get laid? Obviously I'm not going tot tell them that. But yeah I can say that, I day game a lot, it seems like in this city most girls are closed off from meeting guys on the street during the day. So it leaves either bar/club game, social circle or house parties. Not a fan of bars/clubs and have no social circle.
Can you offer some tips on how to get in during the "rush"? What to say/not say/do?
I have an idea of what you are going to say. It seems like in US things are different, but where I live only old people do salsa dancing, wine tasting or whatever else is commonly suggested.
askmrcia 6y ago
These are examples. Do you stay on campus? Is your college a community College or an actual university?
I don't know what school you go to. But you could easily ask any person on campus, people in your classroom or in the student diner asking them what they are up to on the weekend. If they mention a party, you ask for details and most likely they will invite you themselves.
Girls are closed off anywhere. I can't remember the last time I met a guy who was in a ltr and claimed he picked her up off the street.
You can join a coed soccer team, volleyball team, ect...
You can join a volunteer or nonprofit organization. The thing is you're trying to rush all this. There may be one or two cute girls there your age. There may be a guy there. You talk to them and be-friend them and maybe they invite you to a party or something.
This is exactly what I did. Moved to a new city. Met a guy from another team and grabbed his number because he said he's involved with other shit. Fit guy texted me like last week asking if I wanted to come to his super bowl party because again I just moved there. Went over there, plenty of people there, girls included and bam, new social circle.
You join these groups to meet people. If you go there looking for women you're going to be disappointed. You meet a few people, make friends with them and who knows they may have a single friend for you or something
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
No. 1 hr 30 min commute :(
Actual university. 50,000 student population.
Oh wow. Never done this before. Was not aware this could be done. Is it really that easy?
Never had that happen. But maybe cuz i don't volunteer at these organizations. Gotta try it.
EDIT: Supposing I join a club or a team or whatever and i befriend a dude and he invites me to his party. I go and meet women there. I have no idea how to escalate in those situations and turn it into a lay without pissing off the host.
askmrcia 6y ago
That's a detail you should have mentioned.
Big enough. Do you walk around campus and look at flyers for parties or whatever social event.
Yea, do you not talk to kids in your class?
You have to learn to talk with everyone. There was this girl in my volunteering organization. She was older then me and not good looking at all. We became cool. Her boyfriend was a millionaire (20 years older then her) and was throwing this huge Halloween party.
She invited me and that party made every college party I went to look like a joke.
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
I have a few times, its mostly bars/clubs I can't get to because i live far away. But ill start looking more carefully.
I do, but they never invite me to parties and whatnot. I just don't know how to broach the topic.
How did you broach the topic with her to go to the party? And I generally talk only to attractive people - but i guess ill start talking to everyone.
askmrcia 6y ago
This is simple small talk. Ask them what they doing for weekends. Ask them if there is anything going on campus over the weekend. Ask them about any parties. And I dont know where you from but if its a huge house party on campus literally anyone can show up.
Cant remember exactly. I believe I asked her what was she up to for halloween because everyone usually have parties on halloween. She told me about the party. Really that simple. And again it was so huge that anyone can show up.
IAmTruthIAmSalvation 6y ago
Oh damn. by huge parties what do you mean?
I want to go to a party with a lot of new cool people and a lot of girls. haven't been able to find one like that.
I went to a party to watch the Mayweather vs McGregor fight during the summer but it was all dudes.
blackedoutfast 6y ago
you're a 25 year old dude who is finally about to graduate after 8 years of college and you're asking about joining a frat now? wtf no that's not how it works at all. guys usually join fraternities their freshman year, not when they're about to finish school. and it doesn't matter because if you're this clueless and socially awkward they're not going to give you a bid anyway.
part of the reason that frat guys have more social status and get laid more and have fun parties is because fraternities are selective about who they allow to join. the cool frats are cool because they allow the cool Chaddish freshmen to join and reject all the weird losers.
guys like you need to realize there's no cheat code. there's no magic pickup line you can memorize that is guaranteed to work on every girl. there's no club that allows everyone to join that will give you major social status from being a member. there's no secret trick that will instantly transform a socially awkward loser into a cool, popular Chad who goes to wild parties and fucks hot girls every day.
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
Yeah well I didnt know about frats in first year. I was dumb lol. Who said im socially awkward? Ive been called charming before.
blackedoutfast 6y ago
well try to use that charm to go out and meet lots of new people and make friends. being in a frat is good, but being that really cool outgoing guy that everyone knows is even better. be relentless about constantly expanding and improvitlng your social circles. if you're not a complete fucking weirdo who creeps people out eventually you'll start getting invited to parties if you make enough friends. or you will know enough people to start hosting parties yourself
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
If i make friends how will i get laid? I thought the whole point of seduction was to avoid friendzone?
vandaalen 6y ago
Stop looking for quick fixes and "easiest ways" in your life.
hiddenpersona 6y ago
Most quality girls, hb8s 9s hate frat culture, frat boys or houses in general. If you wanna bang 17-23 years old party girls yeah it’s fine but it’s a short term investment.
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
I just want to bang and dont care either way as long as shes skinny. Get some sexual experience before i go after the "quality" girls.