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patuloco78 5y ago
Be patient and don’t take it all to serious. Look after yourself, do st completely new or go lift more. If you don’t want to do see women then don’t. I’m in the same boat as you. I just tell myself thats a necessary phase for growth and may the chips fall where they may..
iCeeYouP 5y ago
Just enjoy the ride my dude. Don't be a pussy MGTOW and refuse to play the game.
michaelmindset 5y ago
I just gotta be straight with ya dude. I don’t see MGTOW as pussies. Sure some guys use it as a “well since I can’t get pussy I’ll just go MGTOW”, but even those dudes...at least they’re finding fulfillment. I’ve had pussy and I think back on how much time I’ve wasted chasing and thinking about it.
TRP is all about saving your precious resource of time, but it seems like the MGTOW guys are actually living that.
The weirdest thought occurred to me the other day. I used to work in a shitty warehouse and there was a skinny lanky ass kid who had zero social skills, just very awkward. I liked the dude, but I remember thinking at the time...”wow this kids gonna be a life virgin” because I remember my dumb ass telling him he should lower his standards and get some experience with girls that way. The dude wasn’t having it, he said fuck that. And instead of fucking a fatty (which I’m guilty as charged) the dude kept his standards. And in hindsight I look at the awkward dude as being MGTOW without knowing it. He didn’t waste time on worthless thots, he didn’t lower his standards, and now the dude I called a life virgin seems fucking cool af to me, b/c he’s not living by society’s belief that masculinity is measured by the number of vaginas you stick your dick in.
Like I said I’m pissed.
iCeeYouP 5y ago
Be angry at it all you want, but just being angry that the sky is blue won't change the fact that the sky is blue. Just do you bro.
michaelmindset 5y ago
That’s thing, I’ve been doing me...but it’s out of fucking anger. I’ve lifted, I’m counting calories, got a new job, new city...but it’s from a god damn place of anger where I just want to fucking look down from a mountain down on all the worthless thots and just smile that I didn’t fall for the trap society lays out for men “you NEED a woman”. I mean, I really just don’t want to care...I wanna be like you and just say “I’m doing me for me”, but the anger isn’t leaving.
t_jones730 5y ago
The anger will be there for a time. It’s necessary right now to fuel you further where nothing else will. It can be exhausting, yes. But anger is a higher energy than sadness or despair : the emotions of weakened men chained to a powerlessness that stems from a paradigm they don’t consciously see.
Your anger will fade, once your values, your true values, begin to emit results. And I’m not talking about the lifting and health strategies, those are simply techniques to make you a more efficient, more robust organism.
I’m talking about your passions and desires, the very things that MTGOW often discuss. You see, you can’t force yourself to give a shit about pussy. And if you’re gonna put the work in, it’s understandable that you will demand a higher quality for a mate. There’s nothing wrong with that. The unveiled understanding of hypergamy in women does not require an equal and opposite immediate reaction to the same degree.
To the contrary, raising SMV and making you and your values the priority and keeping them that way allows you to redefine yourself based exclusively on your terms for a time. Celibacy doesn’t get such a good rep around here, but this is one of the benefits. Only as long as you’re steadily improving. Then you’ll find eventually that the anger has faded and in its place has risen a sense of pride in your improvements, that you did it yourself with no one else to hold you up any step of the way, and that internal foundation cannot be shaken. And then you can begin plating women of a higher caliber than any of your oneiti from distant previous life, but only when you are ready.
Anger is normal. It is a useful tool for now, to provide you with motivation. Just don’t let it loose on people. Keep it contained and let it loose in the gym and let it drive you in other areas of your life. You won’t need it after a time, because you will have overcome a hill you didn’t know existed for most of your life. You won’t need it to climb anymore.
To drop out indefinitely is not the answer. Things are not so bleak. Pussy is a good motivator. Good pussy is a great motivator. Don’t remove that tool from your arsenal to make you a better organism.
TheRedPillMonkey 5y ago
This is anger phase. It will pass. Everyone who's coming from deep blue experiences it. You're not special
You don't want mgtow, you want monk mode. The difference is monk mode is temporary to get your shit together and find a mission. MGTOW is indefinite as it's not wanting to play the game anymore. Go monk mode, you'll be back.
If you read the side bar, dig in, and look around, you'd see that trp teaches you the way the world is. Smart men capitalize on this information. MGTOW rage quit.
The way I see it, you are at a fork in the road many men come to as they swallow the pill. You're actively being armed with the realities of how men and women operate. You can use that knowledge to your advantage, or you can pretend like the world is stacked against you and leave the game.
My advice? Capitalize. Hit monk mode for awhile. Develop your mission. Make yourself the best version of yourself you can. Then start back gaming chicks. It'll beore natural when you're happy with yourself, and harder to get hurt when you're steadfastly on your mission above any women's attempt to derail it.
t_jones730 5y ago
I second this
creating_my_life 5y ago
what's your height, weight, estimated bodyfat, and 3 main lifts?
michaelmindset 5y ago
I’ve gained 10lbs in the past month lifting, I’m 5,11 and I’m on 5x5 program eating daily surplus in calories. Im not looking for lifting advice
wildnight98 5y ago
I think if you want to do MGTOW right, it should be from a place other than anger. That’s why I don’t think you are really MGTOW, you are RP in the anger phase. Some get it worse than others, it seems.
Labels. It’s not like you join a fucking secret society. Take a break from chasing pussy FFS and work on yourself if that’s what you want. You don’t have to “declare” for one side or the other. See how you feel in six months. Make yourself useful in the meantime.
All that said, I get it. The red pill ain’t easy to take. The world is a lot messier and being a “hero” isn’t anywhere close to what you thought it was supposed to be like. But hang in there. It gets better.
319Skew 5y ago
Give it time. Switch that perspective towards one of women being women and nothing to get mad about. You don't get mad when it's cold or raining. You dress appropriately and soldier through. Same with women. If you can't then there's always a nice cabin where you can live out your years somewhere.
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michaelmindset 5y ago
Believe we’re on the same sub right now...so yeah cuck man here. Nice logic bud.
Aralant 5y ago
The thing is there's nothing wrong with mgtow if you're doing it by choice.
There is absolutely no rule that says everyone has to enjoy sex the same amount and there's also no rule that says if you don't enjoy sex enough to put up with women that you're a pussy.
I personally put 0 effort into gaming women these past few years. If a bitch just throws her pussy at me I'll do it but I honestly can't be bothered to go through even the slightest amount of drama for a girl. I'm talking something as petty as having to reschedule or make a reservation for dinner and the slightest attitude or shit test from them and I'll just go do something I want to do.
Pussy is a way way over valued commodity and a man's time is much much more valuable than pussy so if a bitch wanna play hard to get then she can get chased by someone else who thinks he's being slick by gaming some broad everyone else just pays 20 bucks to fuck.
OfficerWade 5y ago
One of the big tasks for men learning to grow up in a blue pill society is to have internal boundaries. The serenity prayer is a common expression of this phenomenon because you want to know the things you can control( you-but who are you) and the things you can’t control ( other people, life events, etc,) and the wisdom to know the difference.
You feel angry because you’ve been trying to control things outside your control. So if you’ve been acting out in ways that are counter to the way you know yourself to be then you can be sure you’ve invested in it your ego. Just stop and say isn’t that funny? I’m doing that silly thing again. Don’t justify your anger or indulge. Choose again.
M23W0OH7FV2t 5y ago
Not to hijack the thread, but... what is the difference between MGOTW and incels?
wildnight98 5y ago
MGTOWs voluntarily eschew LTRs.
Incels describe themselves as involuntarily celibate because bitches.
M23W0OH7FV2t 5y ago
Thank you very much for the clarification.
michaelmindset 5y ago
I can’t speak for all MGTOW...but I’ve had sex, been in LTRs. Started in pua, found red pill, and currently mgtow. I don’t see too many incels running game.
cl3537 5y ago
You are a pussy. 3 women in years? "Girl who doesn't give a shit about me"
Why should she give a shit if you aren't going to put in the effort to learn game?
Go be MGTOW but you aren't fooling anyone the reason why you are there is because you quit and can't get quality women.
michaelmindset 5y ago
Lol I was straight up. In the beginning I fucked below standard girls. I’m not gonna qualify myself to you...yeah QUITTER HERE.
But you mr. red pill..”I value my time!” so I will invest in the $1000 drone to get the perfect tinder pics so that I can get my dick wet with a tinder whale. “Unplug”...try again. And then you can call me a pussy.
cl3537 5y ago
I think you are too dumb to understand what I wrote. Good-luck with MGTOW and Jerkoffsville its a noble choice you are making.
michaelmindset 5y ago
Thanks bud, enjoy putting your hours into tinder. I hope you can get that HB6 you always dreamed of.
cl3537 5y ago
If you are going MGTOW because online apps aren't working for you I can understand that.
Online apps/dating are terrible for getting quality women close to your SMV, most men have to drop their standards for an app like Tinder 2 - 3 levels because those women are what is available to them.
If you are truly MGTOW it doesn't mean you give up sex, you just put very little effort into getting/maintaining relationships with women.
Nothing wrong with that but you still should be doing approaches and refining your game. 'Online Game' is not a substitute for having balls and meeting women in person.
screechhater 5y ago
Dude. You have no mission or frame.
That’s ok. But this is a wake up call.
Seriously.
A good slap to the face about taking care of you first. It’s a no brainer. You have to come first.
Put your oxygen mask on first, then help person next to you. Guaranteed to pass out if not.
Got it ? Start with lifting.
Pluglord 5y ago
You’re a faggot. You’re in the category in between incels and mgtows, the guys who have what it takes, but lack the balls and discipline to create the life they want to live.
If you were a respectable mgtow, you wouldn’t have any anger because you wouldn’t give a fuck about women. Pull your panties up dude. Why do you feel the need to explain to us why you’re going a certain direction with your life? Why put a dumb label on it?
michaelmindset 5y ago
I’ll ask a question if I feel the need LOL, whole point of this sub...if that makes me a cuck THEN IM A CUCK FAGGOT. Funny how big a balls some guys get on reddit lol