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Mrganack 5y ago
Are you fucking serious ? Being redpilled is a mentality not a job type. If you are so weak as to seek for approval from strangers over your choice of career, you do not understand a thing about self reliance.
michal8888 5y ago
Here, here.
"What type of cereal should I eat to be more alpha?"
irvingwashington12 5y ago
Class
Lyxeka 5y ago
nails
writewhereileftoff 5y ago
Definitely Tony The Tiger from Kellogg's. Tony is a bro. Alpha-bro-high-five!
Cloudsurf89 5y ago
???? something gritty with plenty of fibre and a bitter after taste to keep you grounded.
Swelfie 5y ago
So, grape nuts, right? If I eat grape nuts I've made it?
DistantSlug 5y ago
This bro
pFlap 5y ago
Trades. STEM. Merchant Marines
Darkbinder97 5y ago
Would pursuing any sort of degree in Psychology or Philosophy be considered “useless”?
I’m curious as to the opinions surrounding these subjects on this sub.
El_Serpiente_Roja 5y ago
Depends how you define "useful"...for jobs ? Then no ...but for intellectual pursuit? Sure
Aptote 5y ago
sales
daytonbull90 5y ago
Underrated field, this is the most rp field their is imo.
look_good 5y ago
life is sales. you learn invaluable life skills doing sales.
Lyxeka 5y ago
fuck sales
kyzen142 5y ago
Psychologist for men. Imagine the change u can make.
lnternetLiftingCoach 5y ago
This is exactly what I am planning if I am not offered a PhD.
ldamien65 5y ago
Really? I'm a psych student but I've always believed it to be predominated by a blue-pilled population. 80% of my entire class is women and I'm not entirely sure working as a practicing counselor/clinical psychologist would be the best route to go in terms of a 6 figure income.
pprstrt 5y ago
This would be awesome and the only way I would see a therapist. "For our next session we will be hitting your deadlift max and later we'll meet up at a bar and get you some pussy."
You will most definitely be behind enemy lines in school and in your career though. Be careful - Ever notice that all the politically incorrect studies are the last papers ever written by that author? It's because they're immediately targeted and lose their licenses, their practice, and are outcast from the field.
TravelingShitLord 5y ago
If you're in school, you're behind enemy lines.
suhurley 5y ago
Tour bus driver (for touring bands). Takes maybe 6 weeks to get a (class B) CDL. Then you’re looking at about $90k for 9-10 months of work.
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Fedora_Tipper_ 5y ago
I live in San Francisco where Uber, Tesla, GM are making self driving cars. GM is having a self driving ride share program come out next year but it only drives in the city( no highways). Yes self driving cars are coming out but they won't replace most cross country drivers for awhile.
suhurley 5y ago
I can’t see it happening with touring ever. Too many logistical nuances and constantly moving parts.
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Terdmuffin 5y ago
You don't think a band (or anyone else) would like a driver who never had to sleep, eat, piss, shit, drink, get a paycheck, get drunk/do drugs, show up late, get sick, etc, etc?
Thunderfin 5y ago
How do you sign up? Connections needed?
suhurley 5y ago
If you’re starting from square 1:
Get a class b license via a local school. (You can google CDL school for your area and take it from there.
Work for a local bus company for 6 months to a year.
Because there’s a real shortage of tour bus drivers, it’s totally feasible you could be on tour in under two years..
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suhurley 5y ago
PM me about it yourself if you’re really interested. Of the last 35 drivers we tried out, 7 have worked out.
By “worked out,” I mean: can pass drug tests, can hold it together for a 90-day tour, aren’t star-struck, don’t need to spout off about politics and religion, and have very basic mechanical knowledge.
If you love driving & being on the road, getting the band from A to B safely, then you’d be perfect.
Thebusman48 5y ago
I'm very interested in being a tour bus driver.
suhurley 5y ago
Ok. Send me a PM about yourself: experience/license(s), mechanical knowledge, personality, why you want to drive tours, how you feel about being away from home for 2-3 months, how you feel about working with bands, etc.
watermelonicecream 5y ago
Engineering, Computer Science, Math/Stats, Pharmacy, Nursing.
whatsmyname17 5y ago
Surprised to not see business listed here
Aesthetic_God__ 5y ago
What about international relations and organizations universities?
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[deleted] 5y ago
Care to explain how and why? Are you Jewish by any chance?
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[deleted] 5y ago
Then you haven't really taken the "red pill" at all have you? Come back when you are a little more open minded to seeing the world for what it is.
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Computer science is not redpill. Half of those guys are on the spectrum and the other half are just glad to have a place in the world.
Thunderfin 5y ago
On the spectrum lol.
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[deleted] 5y ago
A good programmer can work from his home,from his trip destination from wherever he wants. That is some huge freedom for a 9 to 5 employee. It's like authors. You don't have to wait months until you visit your sick mom back in Russia because your employer won't give you the week off.
And you can make serious money making apps on the side and if you achieve on that you can have a passive income.
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Those particular people were on the spectrum before choosing those careers. The people in those fields with social skills usually rise to the top.
tyrannosaurus_fl3x 5y ago
As a computer science major, I agree. Most are beta and lack aggression. Plenty of "nonbinary" bullshit. But there are people who aren't cucked, the kind of people who value facts and science over feelings. The good thing about computer science is that it's based off results and not merit. It's a great major to get into.
El_Serpiente_Roja 5y ago
Your math is off my friend
watermelonicecream 5y ago
Having job security and being on track for a six figure salary is.
Just because generally speaking the majority of people in a field exhibit certain traits doesn’t mean you have to exhibit them.
[deleted] 5y ago
Money and job security do not make you redpill.
If you hangout with computer science geeks at work guess what you’ll turn into?
GucciGangBucks 5y ago
Whatever you choose to be?
watermelonicecream 5y ago
Fair enough, you generally are the company you keep.
Each of us have a different interpretation of “red pill”. To me you can’t be that unless your finances are in order and CS is certainly a major that will aide you in accomplishing that.
I wouldn’t categorize a male nurse as “red pill” either, but it sure as hell is a great career in time where a great career has never been more elusive.
[deleted] 5y ago
This is precisely what I was getting at. You’re the average of the five people you hang with.
Swoleygrowly 5y ago
If I hung out with the computer geeks at work I would turn them into roided out fuckboys
Pluglord 5y ago
This
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tyrannosaurus_fl3x 5y ago
So in the tech market, you switch jobs a lot more frequently when compared to other careers. This is because there is so much that can be done and the industry changes a lot. The tech market actually has a ridiculously low unemployment which is bad, as the tech industry needs a buffer of unemployed workers that can be hired for short term projects.
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You won't become obsolete if you keep improving,part of being a programmer is constantly learning and improving.
Swelfie 5y ago
If you "get it" you don't even need to improve. Ain't nothing in practical CS application that wasn't invented in the 70's. The new stuff won't hit production for another 20 years because we don't have enough engineers with the right maths. Sure, if you call your degree in Java a CS degree instead of what it is, a trade school education, then yeah... You are fucked.
Liberum_Cursor 5y ago
blockchain, man. things be changing
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I am not a computer science undergraduate,I major in economics and plan on doing a master's in Computer Science, so you know better than me but aren't programming languages continually improving?
Swelfie 5y ago
Kind of. But not really.
Individual languages may change over time through versioning (this is Java 7 vs. Java 8 for instance.) A much older model was that if there were major semantic changes, you called it a new language, because really, the SEMANTICS are different so by definition it is not the same language. But more modern naming techniques favor branding over purism, for better or worse.
So, what changes? Its up to the demands of the users usually, which may or may not be rational. See, languages can have many syntactic and semantic features, but some features simply conflict or are nonsensical with others. Languages need structure in order to be understood. If you took all valid grammatical rules of all spoken langyages for instances and tried to design a new spoken language that supported all the rules, you would end up with a monstrosity of complexity that would be unlearnable to anyone. In CS, this is the path of madness that is C++.
As a result, since limiting your semantic constructs is neccessary, you end up with another issue: some problems are better solved with certain semantic constructs. If you limit your constructs, then some problems are not going to be easily expressed in your language. Take for instance an example you are no doubt familiar with. You obviously understand English. You probably also understand basic high school algebra notation. Algebra notation is another language with its own syntax. Now, describe to me how to drive to the movie theater using algebra. Okay then, describe to me the precise way to calculate an ellipse using only English without algebra notation. There in lies the problem: we have 2 different languages for 2 different problem domains because either language in itself fails to succinctly state what it means in all domains.
So, a programming language is devised. It becomes popular. Inevitably people will attempt to use it for things it just isn't good at describing. They raise their valid concerns and the language changes to encompass these demands. That may be an elegant improvement, or it may be tacking on a horrible monstrosity onto what might otherwise be an elegant language. Like adding polish notation grammar to Spanish.
Now, if you look at some of the most popular syntactic constructs currently being adopted by most popular programming languages as per the fad of the day, you will see closures, lambdas, maps, folds and filters. Programmers are struggling to keep up with this new radical influx of syntactic constructs. So where did these new ideas come from?
They are the core of the Lisp programming language. Which was the first ever computer programming language and was actually devised BEFORE the invention of the computer as a more concise syntax for lambda calculus. This is 1930's tech. Everyone has been using it forever. Its only gaining popularity now because the semantic model that was popular is very difficult to get right, which is a fact well researched in the 1960's, and the "functional" model, which does not have state changes (x=x+1 is nonsense in high school algebra because variables have no state changes in that language) is much easier to reason about.
So, the biggest thing happening in applied computer engineering today is a concept from computer science that actually predates the computer. If you have a strong understanding of computer science then you already know all of this stuff and simply tack and jive with the fad of the day because there really isn't anything new (there is, but it's a long way from impacting the applied sciences).
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Damn thank you for taking the time out of your day to write this,you explained it truly simple and understandable for someone like me who has only studied basic VB in University yet and study Java in his free time. May I ask you one more question,do you believe that a CS master's is worth it for someone who hasn't a bachelor in CS but learns it on his own?
Swelfie 5y ago
If you love it, then yes. If you don't, you will be trapped in purgatory. CS in my personal opinion is really freaking cool. But its math. And even I get overwhelmed by math sometimes and I get it that being human is more important then. But it really is cool math. Its the math that describes math.
If that ain't your thing though, then don't. At the end of the day you are a great ape. You really weren't evolved for this shit and there is no shame in admitting that. If it's not cool for you then you probably will just end up a miserable code monkey. A person with a skill that's marketable but you really don't care about it. There are likely marketable skills out there that really are awesome to you and more like play than work. Do that one. Because doing stuff you actually find awesome is better than doing stuff you think other people do.
El_Serpiente_Roja 5y ago
This is facts right here.
[deleted] 5y ago
I don’t see that many red pill engineers at my work..
Irishminer93 5y ago
You could consider a trade school. You might just choose the one skill that'll be automated in like... 200 years but even then you'll be making money.
[deleted] 5y ago
This is one of the more appropriate answers I’ve read here. I did welding for a few years and everyone was redpilled. You carried your own weight, you had burns on your body, and you didn’t have to listen to women giggling and laughing like you do in my office all damn day.
Irishminer93 5y ago
For me personally, it was more about the fact that you wont put yourself in real debt by going to a trade school. The fact that you can take those skills and make a real living off of it by being self-employed is just the cherry on top.
look_good 5y ago
every man should work w his body @ some point in his life...hard work will redpill the fuck out of you, passing shit tests becomes second nature
El_Serpiente_Roja 5y ago
I worked landscaping over the summers in college and it got me in really good shape..hard work but one if the best experiences with some great phyiscal and psycological benefits.
[deleted] 5y ago
Pharmacist. But only dispense red pills.
this_weeks_account2 5y ago
So, anything you want to do - if you have the right alpha attitude - can be a red pill degree.
Do not let labels or boarders define you.
hiddenpersona 5y ago
Any job is redpill with the right mindset. You can be the redpilled director, actor, producer, doctor, anything you want man.
billyshairyballs 5y ago
Therapist
kylerosa21 5y ago
Criminal Justice.
Have a good amount of fraternity brothers who are in the CJ program at our school. They’re level-headed men and don’t tolerate bullshit too much. It’s a great major it seems.
I myself am doing Exercise and Sports Science. You have a lot you can do with this degree, along with the fact that it’s close to immune to political correctness since a lot of the top researchers in the exercise field really stay true to the science and tell it how it is. I really enjoy my major.
RaughKee 5y ago
Pursue what you are interested in and have aptitude for. I’m an engineer, but I started out studying physics because it interested me. University is great if academic studies are your thing, one of my good friends loved history and pursued a bachelors then masters (doing that abroad) he later got a law degree and is very successful. Another friend loved English lit, now is a principal in a prestigious private school. The trades are great in that you work with your hands and can own a successful small business.
Whatever you do, make it something you love and are interested in. Then pursue excellence in that field. Don’t go in to a stupid amount of debt for your degree if that’s the way you want to go.
tresdosjuan 5y ago
Surprised no one has said military
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Military is the ultimate beta job - you swear to obey the orders of another man. Not redpill at all.
tresdosjuan 5y ago
Maybe when you’re lower enlisted, once you’re in a position of leadership you have 10-20 guys under you. You get orders from higher up then have to figure out how to get that done by commanding the soldiers/sailors under you.
Thunderfin 5y ago
2-4 from the line smh
Edit: wrong sub lmao.
talexanderc 5y ago
Engineer
jc_806 5y ago
I’m currently a senior and I never got an internship. What are my odds of finding a job
needz 5y ago
Shitty. Welcome to HVAC
pprstrt 5y ago
Make sure your extracurriculars are rock solid. Managers aren't looking for robots, we like to hire people we actually want to work with and that have experiences beyond bookwork.
Thunderfin 5y ago
I'm entering college for engineering... I've heard it's normally seen as bluepill. Should be good then if I can be an alpha engineer I guess.
talexanderc 5y ago
You stand out if you're alpha. Be a beast in the gym and an engineer. It makes things easy for me. Girls are shocked when I tell them my profession as an engineer because I socialize well too.
Thunderfin 5y ago
Yeah I'm gonna be a student-athlete in college, so lifting should be set.
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Lots of engineers in my office and they all come off as bluepill. They’re big guys but they don’t lift.
Thunderfin 5y ago
Big as in fat or tall?
iPommy 5y ago
Sounds like the former.
hormoan 5y ago
Butcher.
[deleted] 5y ago
I'm a grad student.......CS......Fuck computers!! They are taking over.....fucking social media.....we're just losing humanity.
look_good 5y ago
While you're young, get life experience working blue collar jobs. it's not a pretty world, do hard work, work w a rough crowd, toughen up.
Tuno93 5y ago
Firefighter !!!
[deleted] 5y ago
Find what you want to do,whatever the fuck that is,make sure that you can do it fucking good and by good I mean be one of the best and find a way to do it. You don't have to do something you "loveeee<3dreamjob#",you are not a woman, you have to do something you like,something that won't make you hit your head in the wall when you wake up in the morning. Even the top 1% of gender studies graduates get good jobs.
AggressiveMarket 5y ago
Policing
Azora 5y ago
You can be a nurse and still be redpilled.
Cloudsurf89 5y ago
Why would you want to pidgeon hole yourself like this?
I'm a UK primary school teacher so 95% of those I work with are women and I mainly deal with mums.
As a male in my profession I'm in a strong position for several reasons - parents appreciate male role models at this age and males tend to be promoted higher and quicker for various reasons that I've not fully figured out yet.
Do I get shit tested constantly? Yes. Do I mind? Nah, I love it. Give me the best you've got - I'll smash anything you send me out the park. See it as your own personal sparring ring. Plus 13 weeks holiday each year.
powerpuffters 5y ago
I'm a psychiatric social worker. It's extremely rare to find a male social worker,but I have my own office and rarely see my co-workers, I work with a mix of male schitzoaffective patients. It's not the best paying job, but its better paid than nurses and other professionals, Its rewarding and no day is the same. It's certainly not viewed as red pilled, but it will never be automated. People think gender studies will get you into it- they couldn't be further from the truth
Fedora_Tipper_ 5y ago
More paid than nurses? Nurses make 80k- 120k+ depending on how far certified they are.
powerpuffters 5y ago
Yea
Aralant 5y ago
Heavy construction welder. 120k a year and no chance they will ever get a robot into most of these positions. And you gain the benefit of working out at work .
Thunderfin 5y ago
120k, really? Wow, never knew that!
Aralant 5y ago
Yea man I'm a union boilermaker. It's great money if you get in the union. Plus all the benefits you get that you never have to pay for like health, dental, vision, pension, annuity and vacation.
Some guys prefer to work like half a year once they get their home and vehicles paid for they still make 60-70k a year just working spring and fall.
Sighters 5y ago
did you go to trade school ?
Aralant 5y ago
I did because I didn't know about the boilermakers apprenticeship.
If I had it all to do over again I'd take the summertime welder course at my community college to learn how to stick weld then go to the apprenticeship. Instead I got a 2 year degree as a metallurgical engineer.
bikermonk 5y ago
Car factory robots are smiling at you
Aralant 5y ago
By the time they develop a robot that can make these welds every other jobs will be automated so I suppose it won't matter by then. We will either have entirely socialist societies or mass extinction.
dongpal 5y ago
whats so special about welding? isnt it just as easy as holding 2 parts and well, "gluing" it together?
Aralant 5y ago
Welding can be thought of as gluing if the weld is being done in very very controlled environments such as manufacturing plants.
However in the field the material you have to work with is poor quality and is often corroded by rust, contaminated by fly ash or other chemicals and almost always poorly fit together. All of this combines in a way that makes the welder have to "read the puddle" which is just a way of saying adapting the technique to what the molten metal is doing in real time.
Also in the field welds are often "stitch welds" Which are just several welds that are short and not connected. And the setup time for sub arc (automatic welders) is so long that it isn't cost effective to use the machine on welds that aren't 70 foot long.
ElectricYellowMouse 5y ago
Hmm not really, cause then it'll be the "glue" having to manage the stresses of whatever the metal is used for. Welding on the other hand joins the two surfaces by melting their faces off , and when they solidify they're basically one piece so its a much much stronger joint than a glue.
dongpal 5y ago
this was not my question. glue is just a term I used as an example because i dont know what the real term is, thus the "" .
what is so special about human weldering compared to roboter? it's like soldering, and roboters are already better at it. this looks easy as fuck to replace with bots
ElectricYellowMouse 5y ago
Oh in that case, welding CAN be automated, but the automation stuff is mostly used for assembly processes however the machine is quite costly. Welding is also used for repairing stuff which cannot be automated cause there's too many variables for the machine to observe and so creating one that would be used for repairs is gonna have to be insanely complex and expensive. Plus I don't think we have the technology to create machines to perform underwater welds and such and don't even think about remote operating that shit.
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cartmichael 5y ago
Isn't accounting going to be automated?
iPommy 5y ago
Even if it is, it's still going to have some errors in the process. I've never heard of accounting going automatically in the future until now.
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gaki123 5y ago
this. This intersection is FUCKING PERFECT. Few people can be competent at sales, even fewer at STEM. Now at both? Extremely few
Rudeyyyy 5y ago
Currently a Business Analytics major. Ideal salary is 90k starting and after a bit making around $115,000 a year. It's also on the come up and are predicted to higher 90'000 new jobs by 2020.
GucciGangBucks 5y ago
Any degree where you actually learn a skill useful to society. Gender studies isn’t a skill so you don’t get jobs. Meanwhile IT, computer programming, Engineering, doctors, etc. You actually learn a valuable skill. Also you’ll actually have a job.
Thunderfin 5y ago
Investment banking.
mrrooftops 5y ago
Truly no more redpill than this. They can't afford to be bluepill or they'd lose all their money in an instant.
watermelonicecream 5y ago
Have fun working 60 ~ 80 hours a week.
Thunderfin 5y ago
I've read wallstreetoasis and know all about that. Going to be an engineer though; comment was just personal experience with IB types of guys.
watermelonicecream 5y ago
Yea I have a friend that accepted a GS offer. He hits me up at 10 on a Friday night asking what’s good for the night, he just left the office. Fuckkkk that.
Thunderfin 5y ago
Damn. Analyst?
bitterconsultant 5y ago
Haha 60-80 is management consulting (my current job). Investment banking is around 100 (my previous job). My worst week was 125 hours - it's interesting how a human can still operate on so little sleep (literally 1-2 hours per night for about 2 weeks incl. weekends.)
TheTrenTrannyTrain 5y ago
How did you stay alive? Lol
felipebarroz 5y ago
Strategic consulting and investment banking is not red pill, IMHO.
It's just running the rat race while selling your soul.
Been there, done that. Don't recommend. Money isn't everything in life, and you can earn pretty good money without selling your own health.
bitterconsultant 5y ago
I actually agree with this. It wears you down. But they both open a lot of doors in business which ends up being red pill. It's just a means to an end, an investment of time, blood, sweat and tears to set you up nicely for the rest of your life/career.
I've been doing MC for 1.5 years now post-MBA and will leave in 6 months for greener pastures.
felipebarroz 5y ago
I hated every minute I worked at Roland Berger. I couldn't bear it. I don't want to work 13h per day and not have time to go to the gym, to read a book, to spend time with my wife.
bitterconsultant 5y ago
agreed - that's how I feel as well :) I do like the friendships with my colleagues though, but that's about it.
qwertyuiop111222 5y ago
Tldr: Anything that requires hard logic (A+B=C), and pays well. Engineering counts, so does policing / law/ military/ business / tech / math etc
Hutch2106 5y ago
Good luck being in control of your own life if you’re in the military.
beginner_ 5y ago
Policing and hard logic. Lol.
qwertyuiop111222 5y ago
Well yeah, not in the US at least.
bodybuilder98 5y ago
fuckity fuck fuck fuckem x12