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mancozbi 6y ago
I thought that women like sex to be nice, gentle, sweet, that they want a cuddly, fluffy toy/man in bed. Pathetic I know. My excuse is that is what women told me they want, and what I saw on mass media. As soon as I realised the truth my sex life rocketed.
The other shit that I deeply regret is porn, masturbation and prostitution. Good sex is what we need, with a real person - not an image on a screen, not a prepaid service. Sex is good for men if we've put the effort in, chase,, seduce and fuck hard (and that includes sex in a LTR).
isthatsuperman 6y ago
A year ago before I found myself on my RP journey, I wouldn't have considered myself a beta but was I wrong.
A girl I used to be close friends with back in middle school had reconnected with me. And holy fuck is she hot now like HB9 status. We were like forest and Jenny back in the day and I thought she was "the one" and that this was "meant to be." (I laugh at myself now for it.)
So we go out she comes back to my place she is practically attacking me at this point, we fuck. Its great. We continue to fuck for the next two weeks I'm constantly texting this girl day in and day out.
One night after going at it we're talking and she asks me how I feel about her. Normally I keep this stuff in and don't share emotions but I thought it was meant to be like I was in the notebook or something. So what do I say? "I love you." <- the fuck up of a lifetime
The next week she practically ghosts me. She finally lets me know she needs time for herself and this and that.
I was blind sided. Completely confused as to what In the fuck happened. How was it this girl couldn't get enough of me two weeks ago and now this? I couldn't figure it out. I was devastated over it for a couple weeks. I eventually got past it. Flash forward to finding the RP reading the theories and what not, then it dawned on me. I lost all my status with her by opening up and displaying feelings and emotions. It was a tough lesson to learn, she was easily the hottest girl Ive ever been with and I blew it. Never again, will I repeat that mistake.
[deleted] 6y ago
Took a drunk chick home in college because she jumped in my pledge rides car and put her on her couch then went home.
Had a nice hearing by the admisitration of my school for bad conduct the next week.
Apparently I should have pushed her out to the curb.
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
Bought several girls flowers before or on first dates. (It kinda worked once and terrified the other).
Attempted to negotiate our relationship, pointing out where my needs weren't being met. Based this on the mistaken assumption she gave a fuck about me or "our relationship".
Took a girl for a great meal out at a great restaurant. Let it known it was her turn next. She/we went to the cheapest/closest place and she said to the serving staff "it's buy one get one free today right?". Didn't dump her on the spot.
Assumed my mother gave a fuck about me rather than someone who will just parrot feminism endlessly rather than care about anything her son said.
[Edit] Oh... and once wrote 12 pages about "our relationship", on the mistaken assumption that the girl would read it, understand, and want to improve things.
jackandjill22 6y ago
Damn. Appreciate the honesty Matty.
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
I was fully committed to being beta, and I was happy with it, thinking women would appreciate it, be attracted to me, and we could build a relationship and a future together. When it didn't work I was convinced I was doing everything right but she was the wrong girl. Everyone agreed I was doing it right, the girls included.
There was some sex.... I'm reasonably physically attractive.... I didn't get stuck being an orbiter after doing it once and reaslising it didn't work.
Gradually I snapped out of it and stopped being so nice, culminating in me tattooing TRP Endorsed across my chest in red.
jackandjill22 6y ago
Thanks for sharing your story. It's good to know the moderators are human just like us.
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
Not a mod.
The reason I am an EC is because of my insights into female behaviour and motivations... and a lot of that came from how I was treated when I was trying to benefit them rather than myself.
I've done all the things women say they want. I've been the loyal, decent, honest, faithful long term committed boyfriend. And been lied to and treated like shit for my efforts.
I don't think I'd be qualified to say "commitment kills attraction" unless I'd been there and done it enough times to be certain.
mrpthrowa 6y ago
thanks dude. I can say i honestly look out for your responses sometimes - some of the insights you spit out into female psychology are so spot on.
Gawernator 6y ago
Typical doormat bf
Andrea-Amilcare 6y ago
God, where do I begin? I was so shock full of blue pill nonsense, it's a miracle I didn't choke on it to death.
Some things just off the top of my head:
More than anything, I was totally deluded into thinking that women were delicate little flowers that needed a “good guy” like me to take care of them. Just some sad sad shit.
W_O_M_B_A_T 6y ago
I really wonder if that's how you really felt about yourself. Fragile, could collapse at any moment. Needed a mother figure in shining armour to support you. That's the hell of projection is it's totally subconscious.
So you just assumed that women thought and felt in ways that were equally parasitic.
Psychocist 6y ago
Oh man. Some of the crap I must have come out with, too. Right there with ya!
I cringe every time I think of how I would try to negotiate desire over text if I got a LJBF after a first date. Now it's simple: maybe one text, but otherwise don't chase at all. Women who are interested will chase you.
I've lost a few women like that, but it leaves you with women who are genuinely into you.
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HappyMexican 6y ago
Hah, It is good to see all the replies of "crying"," begging", and stalking.
TRP is full of burnt men indeed. Including me, I am no better then you guys :(
It took me all the way to 25 to figure this one out. I had TWO different occasions at 24 and I passed on having easy sex with both of them for this reason. Wanted to be their boyfriend first. They honestly just seemed frustrated the next morning.
They were literally naked on my bed and I was drunk, but stupid ass misguided conscious got the better of me. I still regret years later.
Mrm1ster 6y ago
Ltr of 4 years left me and started seeing a guy right after (probably fucking him before she left me). Wrote her this long love letter accompanied by sending her 4 dozen roses that week. She kept telling me she was confused and I acted like a beta cuck that kept begging her to come back to me.
Should have just went no contact and started fucking other women asap. I've learned my lesson.
west3rn1deals 6y ago
I cried in front of a girl, after i told her of my oneitis with her. Right after she told me all the styles of sex she did with her boyfriend at the time. Go on, lay it all out... i deserve it.
jackandjill22 6y ago
That's ironic now, I was an introvert that broke out. I have neckbeard "old" Facebook friends who never learned to hunt for pussy & go out/spend their weekends playing vidya & doing to hobbyist type shit with WOW posters on their walls. They like their safe upper-middle class bubbles.
They marvel at my transformation.
My family now criticizes my female choices. "I don't approve of her" they say. These girls are mostly burnaways that I use as plates for hot ass, practice game. & watch poor decision making in action. Rejected giving a ride to one yesterday night. Was on the phone with another almost directly afterward.
mrpthrowa 6y ago
Get emotional with women. "open up". Seek emotional support from women.
This is almost always the reason men betasize and fuck up.
The temptation will be great.
She will be infatuated with you, she'll love you, she'll kiss the ground you're walking on and suck you dry.
And she does that because your frame is strong and you're a rock, a man with a mission who gets what he wants.
But you'll get the urge. you'll get the urge to feel up. The temptation will be great especially with girls who are hot, submissive and shower you with displays of affection and emotion.
Ah finally I'm sure she'll understand me.
At this point, STFU. SHUT THE FUCK UP.
If you "open up", show a little crack, boy the punishment will be very quick. Nothing gets vaginas drier quicker.
You're on your own.
jackandjill22 6y ago
Hm, thanks.
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Made this mistake with my current girlfriend two years ago.
It's a long road to recovery my friends.
You're going to be in the moment, maybe cuddling with her, maybe feeling shitty about something. You are going to feel so safe and loved by her that you just want to share with this other human your deepest insecurities and worries.
Don't. Like really, don't.
She will not have any real advice that you couldn't figure out on your own, just comfort. Women will tell you themselves, when they are upset they don't want to discuss rational paths and plans towards solving the issue, they want comfort and reassurance. That's all they can give you.
So on that practical level it's not worth it, but on top of that you've shattered your frame and her perception of you as a man.
That doesn't mean you are always a closed book. If you need to talk to someone about that type of shit, grab a six pack and some bud and talk to a close buddy about it. I will vent to my girl about little things, but nothing major
BusterVadge 6y ago
I believe this is the most common mistake men make. Sometimes it is necessary to "open up" a little, in the case of comfort tests from a LTR, but NEVER seek emotional support from women. This is what your bros are for.
ioncehadsexinapool 6y ago
I've noticed if you show that you have emotions but aren't comfortable sharing them with her she goes coocoo for Coco puffs.
You have to show some form of vulnerability for most for them to be interested. I think this really teases them.
Has anyone else noticed this?
Frosty_Resilience 6y ago
Most important lesson I learned. LTR broke up with me. Now I'm better off though.
Love8Death 6y ago
You know what really sunk things in well for me, was when my SO said me crying made her Happy.
Oh so apparently without that, I'm emotionless, and she just thought I didn't have any. And this is someone that studied psychology in school too.
AWALT.
Too bad for her that I enjoy her tears way more.
W_O_M_B_A_T 6y ago
Fucking realz before feelz.
frerri 6y ago
I've been doing this recently, she says she loves me with all of her heart and I'm her other half and all of that shit. Tell me I'll be OK if I never open up like that again
wiredtobeweird 6y ago
Spot on.
TryhardPantiesON 6y ago
Made the same mistake several times.
This is one of those things that you learn the hard way. When you are feeling sad, or emotiona, seek your male friends, never women.
TB12thMan 6y ago
I would go even further; talk to your father. Talk to your brother. Hell talk to a therapist. By opening up to your friends, they may respect you at first but if you are a deeply rooted beta or have actual emotional problems your friends will begin to see you as needy and weak, and will learn how to pull your strings.
Edit: changed councilor to therapist
DamiensLust 6y ago
This is where the distinction between buddies & your best friends, your brothers, your fucking tribe.
PreOrgasmGroanLness 6y ago
And she'll keep telling you that it's good that you've opened up, that now she feels better connection between the two of you, et cetera...
By the way sex quality (or quantity) got a nosedive? "Oh must be my libido cause of the depression..." or some other BS
It's not that she lies, she might, most likely, not realize what's happening. It's kinda the weirdest thing since I've got to read TRP (a;though I don't agree with a lot of stuff). Situations which prove one by one, another after another that she desires you way more when you do all the stuff that she supposedly doesn't like and that put her off. You do you and she's on her knees waiting for you with her eyes just locked into you, you do what she recommends is the best course of action and she's gonna be indifferent, bored with you.
Honestly it's painful to watch, I don't even want to believe this shit and I won't ever tell the girls because they're not going to believe anyway. They just notice it sometimes but don't have the balls (and never will have) to admit it before themselves because it's too animal-like.
wiredtobeweird 6y ago
Taking liability for their actions? Not having any plausible deniability? Surely it can't be. /s
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
I'm pretty sure she does lie.
While they're attracted to alpha, they relentlessly need to have it confirmed. They relentlessly pick away, looking for weakness, looking for a way to increase your dependency on her.
All weakness and attachment and dependency directly decreases your attractiveness.
They know it..... but they do it because they want the security of getting you attached.... and they want to see if you can pass shit tests or not.
I've talked to women. They know they test, and they know they do it deliberately, and they think we haven't noticed. And they know the consequences of failing those tests: increased resources/commitment for her and decreased attraction for us.
TB12thMan 6y ago
What's worse is some women will try to make you feel like the only way to improve your relationship is by opening up more so; meanwhile they will become more reserved the more open and willing you become. Doesn't matter how good your pipe game is, if you start becoming too emotional and open they will stop finding you biologically attractive, will shut down, and make you feel guilty because they don't understand that they are driven by emotion. Keep it to yourself and figure out how to use your pain to your advantage. That being said, depression and anxiety are no joke, so if you are dealing with these then seek dietary and medical assistance. Its almost 100% going to be your diet and exercise, but that isn't always enough.
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What do you mean by this exactly?
Why would she want you to become less attractive in her own eyes?
Or did you mean that she wants you to become less attractive in other women's eyes? (But why would being more attached to her in private make you less attractive in other women's eyes?)
TB12thMan 6y ago
She doesn't WANT you to become less attractive. She NEEDS the validation though, and so she'll test your frame. She wants to see if you're a man, or if you're her bitch.
mrpthrowa 6y ago
they are not rational
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
failed shit test = less attraction
IRideParkCity 6y ago
Fell for a girl 10 years younger than me and orbited for months while never getting anywhere.
Lawl what a fucking joke I was. Learned trp, found the 3 rules, made a move, got rejected, cut her from my life, and life suddenly got amazing.
Thank you trp.
jackandjill22 6y ago
Nice. How did you know when you were rejected.
IRideParkCity 6y ago
I tried to escalate. Got as far as touching a nipple. Haven't seen her since that day
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IRideParkCity 6y ago
Rule #1: assume every girl is in to you. Rule #2: escalate until you get a no. Rule #3: don't stick your dick in crazy.
Kellywasmyfirst 6y ago
be attractive
don't be unattractive
????
Peter_B_Long 6y ago
Told my first gf when I was 14 that I would do whatever she wanted me to do and that I was her puppet.
I had a plate when I was 16. She was a tall blonde HB 9. She modeled and got hit on by every guy in her friends group. I was a scrawny skinny fat Hispanic brown skinned beta but I had amazing social value. I lost my virginity to her. I was dgaf and aloof at first because she had a boyfriend, but after fucking a few times and opening up, I fucked it all up by crying / begging / manipulating her into leaving her boyfriend for me.
I cried once at the mall because my ex LTR wouldn't hold my hand at the mall. This one makes me cringe cause I was like 19-20.
Thank God for the red pill I don't even cry at funerals anymore.
CameronBronson 6y ago
After I broke up with my ex, I bought her a birthday present because I thought that maybe she would take me back.
I also was in a relationship with this same girl for 6 months, and never had sex with her. She wasn't a virgin and had been with many other guys before me...
chachaChad 6y ago
Got married. Had kids.
W_O_M_B_A_T 6y ago
Didn't I see you driving that powder blue chrysler minivan the other day. Thousand-yard stare on your face?
chachaChad 6y ago
Some fucking days...
Honesty, I’ve been like that but that’s all about feeling like a victim. I’m not a victim which means I ducked this up and I can unfuck it.
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Wrote my crush a 3 page hand written love letter in high school. Couldn't even muster up the balls to arrange shit in person.
honorocagan 6y ago
I fucked up a golden threesome opportunity.
Man, that fucked with my head.
Luckily, I got a do-over later down the road.
Carpe diem, go get em.
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aasman1 6y ago
Needed to read this one. Thanks
jackandjill22 6y ago
Take you're steps.
PreOrgasmGroanLness 6y ago
Don't go rambo on your current relationships, i.e. trying to change the whole relationship dynamic all at once
idgaf- 6y ago
Writing letters to a girl. lol
PreOrgasmGroanLness 6y ago
Can work as part of seduction in a LTR
TomKN 6y ago
Writing a letter to my ex and going round with flowers and having to hand it to her dad because she wouldn't see me. Then writing her a song - the letter i can live with, the song was next level cringe.
GreenPiller 6y ago
A male nurse would fuck my oneitis once a week. She would go out with me the rest of the week and we would talk over the phone every day. Spent 2 years like this and I still didn't get pussy. Wish I could go back in time and beat the shit out of me, I would probably beat the shit out of that nurse as well, she never told me who he was though. I would've probably killed him.
jackandjill22 6y ago
Yikes.
kieran9323 6y ago
You can't fix stupid. If it's not a friend zone, it's going to prison for murder with intent and assault on a female
PreOrgasmGroanLness 6y ago
Holy shit, man. I feel for you
GreenPiller 6y ago
The blatant manipulation was disgusting. I never felt so used and manipulated before... I imagined her getting pounded, wiping the cum from her face and giving me a call. Shit makes me wanna vomit.
W_O_M_B_A_T 6y ago
Shit dude, it wasn't even good pussy. Like, it really wasn't. Why do you want to beat some guy you don't even know, just for lowering himself to have crappy sex with the STI ridden office whore?
At worst, he deserve a slap in the face for shitting where he eats. But don't worry, that habit will bite him right in the balls in due time.
You had other opportunities. You didn't want them. You're going to beat up a guy because you didn't want other options? That's like attacking your roommate for watching the "Twilight Series Marathon" without you.
GreenPiller 6y ago
Its not about the pussy its about the humiliation and he was part of the equation. I simply hate the guy and I won't pretend not to. Enough kissing Chad's ass, you are allowed to dislike him.
WinstonMcFail 6y ago
Why the fuck do you want to beat up the male nurse? He was just getting his, like you should've been doing. Not his fault. If anything, he deserves props. Never understood some guys' urge to beat up other dudes just bc they get the female.
Gawernator 6y ago
Because of jealousy.
WinstonMcFail 6y ago
Truth. It's weakness and to be avoided. Not saying its easy or natural
tenXten 6y ago
I agree. SHE is to blame here.
TB12thMan 6y ago
She is partially to blame; but in reality, the dude should have realized that he was in a toxic relationship that was causing him emotional stress and torment. He was making sacrifices for what, friendship? Why be exclusive? Why even have that girl in your life at all? You have to realize that she did not respect you and that's on YOU for letting someone disrespect you and stay in your life. It's very tough to realize, but once you shift the blame to yourself and figure out where you went wrong, you can start progressing in life and have a much more healthy, happy existence.
tenXten 6y ago
I definitely agree...It starts with self. But after that....
GreenPiller 6y ago
That shit is in the past already. Although don't expect me to be a cuck and give him props. I hate that mentality and it is quite common in here. I accept the truth but I still hate his guts, don't care what anyone thinks.
WinstonMcFail 6y ago
You don't have to care what anyone thinks but the fact that you hate his guts is a sign of insecurity, no doubt. There's literally no logical reason to harbor feelings of hate towards the dude. He did absolutely nothing to you. You're being emotional rather than rational. That's a female trait. The whole point of trp is to recognise this truth, accept it, and grow from it
GreenPiller 6y ago
I already moved on. Just don't expect me to shake his hand and tell him what a good job he did. I'm not a fan of this whole stoic bullshit, I'm a human not a sociopath, I have plenty of reasons to hold a grudge. I move on but I don't forget.
WinstonMcFail 6y ago
Fair enough dude. You can choose to react however you feel think is good for you.. that's all that matters i suppose
GreenPiller 6y ago
Sorry man. I'm not Marcus Aurelius and I won't pretend to be him. I'll always defend angry newbies, its ok to feel anger and frustration. Just my point of view.
WinstonMcFail 6y ago
Yeah, I'm totally with you man. Everyone is allowed to process situational emotions as it suits them. We agree. But to hate the dude does seem somewhat unhealthy
Renzotl56 6y ago
Let a girl take over my life. Everything revolved around her. Never again man. Pushed past all the red flags and tried to make it work. Red flags are there for a reason.
tenXten 6y ago
Amen, brother.
dontbedenied 6y ago
I'll raise you letting a BPD/NPD woman take over my life. Twice. Seriously...never again.
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dontbedenied 6y ago
Consider yourself lucky that she left you. Most make your life hell until you can't take anymore and crawl out of the relationship. BPD women prey on guys who are deeply plugged in because they know guys who are unplugged smell their shit from a mile away, and will just pump and dump them.
I wanted to kill myself with my most recent Ex. It was so fucked up. I could sense that something was very wrong but I still couldn't walk away from the relationship. It was like having Stockholm Syndrome. I have no idea when she would have broken up with me. I finally pulled the trigger, discovered TRP and have been on the road to recovery ever since.
-sr71 6y ago
Theres taking the red pill and then theres getting it rammed down ur throat on the tip of thick dick with a BPD girl
HappyMexican 6y ago
Whats BPD?
ollyollyollyoioioi 6y ago
Bipolar Disorder. It can be annoying as hell, could not imagine having to deal with that in pussy form.
11-Eleven-11 6y ago
Went on a date with a friend of my cousins... with my cousin... twice. (Cousins a girl btw.)
HappyMexican 6y ago
Wait did you date your cousin or her friend... or both?
11-Eleven-11 6y ago
The friend. But I was so beta they thought it would be a good idea if my cousin tagged along. We were all 19 btw. She was pretty shy also so I basically failed a comfort test because I had no idea what I was doing.
mikehillfin 6y ago
Because of my community background got into social media late. Sent too many messages to too many girls. Most of these girls I would meet during the week. I did get girls at that time but never the ones who I sent messages to.
Anger/desire is your enemy patience is your protector, remember that.
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Peter_B_Long 6y ago
The limp alcohol dick isn't exactly beta. It happens.
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Psychocist 6y ago
Did exactly this last night with a plate I've only seen couple times :/ stupid!
Peter_B_Long 6y ago
Drinking too much in general is beta. I've never had limp dick from too much alcohol. It does take longer to get hard though.
TB12thMan 6y ago
Being too open with my emotions and past. As some have stated before this, I expected that women wanted honesty and that being a good guy and being as close to perfect as possible would allow me to find happiness. Even when I was a complete alpha douche, I was actually incredibly insecure in my frame and emotionally unstable. I lifted frequently, almost obsessively, but for the most part this hobby was a facade for me to cover up the fact that I put all of my value in pussy. Leads to you getting drunk and saying stupid shit, acting irrational, and probably either fighting someone or acting incredibly desperate.