I feel like nofap is a double-edged sword. On one hand, you end up feeling good about yourself because you're exercising your willpower by not jacking off, and when you feel good about yourself that shit does wonders to your personal life. Problem is, the moment you jerk off, you feel like total shit, jerk off some more, and that just keeps making you feel worse. I feel like a much better alternative is to develop good habits, and stick to them everyday. That way you're bringing actual progress into your life, and that'll feel just as good as the so called no fap benefits. If you end up having free time and you have to bust a nut, sure go for it. Just don't abuse porn.
I went through both extremes and found the best is masturbating 1 a week is best, not getting too angry from pent up energy and not feeling depressed from too much, but everyone is different. Ditching the porn has really helped women look even 10x better, crazy how that works.
Prolactin basically curbs sexual appettite and prowess and downregulates dopamine receptors. In evolutionary theory it serves the purpose of preventing a man from wasting too much sperm/energy on one woman.
Constantly elevated Prolactin levels in men ( my masturbation or frequent ejaculation) are related to depression, antisocial behaviour, decrease in cognitive function and mood swings. It takes 2 weeks (14-15 days) after one ejaculation for Prolactin levels to return to a normal range and Dopamine receptors to be resensitized. Multiple ejaculations within a short period of time have an accumulative effect and require a longer recovery period.
However, the hotter the girl is and the higher a man`s testosterone and especially DHT (acts as a Dopamine antagonist and counters the effects of Prolactin), the lesser the negative effects of Prolactin post ejaculation. Indicator of High Prolactin is also a long refractory period, but again, the higher your T and DHT and the hotter the girl on a simple biological level, the lesser the negative effects of Prolactin.
I wonder how taking adderall for my extreme adhd for my dopamine, because it raises it and its night and day just hope it doesnt fuck me up in the longterm. I definitely notice the differemce when i went on a nofap streak so many things related to dopamine improved but i still cant do it without adderall at this point.
The hotter the girl is, the higher the dopamine spike, hence that's why bros with oneitis here say that for someone the GFTOW doesn't work and cause fucking addiction like a heroin. You gotta fuck hotter girls than your oneitis.
the magnitude of prolactin increase following intercourse is 400% greater than that following masturbation.
The results are interpreted as an indication of intercourse being more physiologically satisfying than masturbation, and discussed in light of prior research reporting greater physiological and psychological benefits associated with coitus than with any other sexual activities.
Where the fuck did you read that encourages fapping? If you prefer your hand over pussy, good for you.
This is the reason why no fappers think they gain some 'superpowers' after a month of nofap.
Do you not make any difference between fapping and sex.
The hotter the girl is (female pheromones, higher dopamine, skin contact) and the higher a man`s testosterone and especially DHT (acts as a Dopamine antagonist and counters the effects of Prolactin), the lesser the negative effects of Prolactin post ejaculation.
Fappers agree prolactin is bad.
Stop puling things outta your ass and learn how to read contextual.
If you have low T and you do it compulsively, then yea it's bad.
Because evolution worked hundreds and hundreds of millions of years to prevent shortcuts like this. Pheromone science is very subtle and not yet completely understood.
So only women can detect that kind of shit?
I was surprised, that girl from my class was flirting with me out of nowhere, when i was fapping she wasn’t into me.
Horny person will gaze at woman so much more, thus notice more IOI's. You are more interested in a world, more reactive, but not in afraid sheep way, more like hungry wolf way. In contrast: anxious guy looking left and right is noticing world more too, but in wrong way
If you combine horniness with some kind of confidence/prediction that you will get laid soon (for example, from reading and believing bluepill nofap theories that women just want a guy who doesn't IGNORE them. More about it in point A), you will get more confident in good way. Laypeople call it pheromones or mojo
It's possible you are more pissed, your posture improves. I, for example sleep 2h less on Nofaps, and am much more agressive and much less agreeable
Horniness pseudo-decreases your IQ, in GOOD way. Some boring dude mentioning a party? There will be at least one girl here? Boom, "yea dude I'm coming"
A. NoFap reddit/website advocates that women are unhappy because men fap instead of sexing them. Truth is, when you're horny, you like even cuddling and kissing more (I hate kissing unless I'm really horny, just prefer to get to the thing and be done with it). So when nofap guys read hundreds of stories of hamstering women that suddenly love their man because he stopped fapping and suddenly started fucking their fat bodies (ommited fact WHY men resort to fap instead of having sex), and they like tell everyone that nofap is chick magnet
Bottom line - it sometimes works, sometimes makes you pissed, and sometimes hinders you - each attempt is different. If you have 3 plates, it can enable you to find time for 6, but when you're incel it's possible instead of meeting girl you will PM your oneitis'es constantly
The chances of getting prostate cancer by not ejaculating are ridiculous that using it as an argument shows that you haven't done the research and just spouting what everyone says. Sheep. You are not red pilled yet.
Nofap is bull shit. If rubbing one out drops your test levels so low that you have zero drive. You should see a doctor and get on trt. Jacking off and porn have zero affect on me.
Now take your nofap bull shit and self terminate. Like right now.
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redhawkes 2 7y ago
It's hormones. Once you ejaculate your dopamine levels drop and your prolactin levels go up.
Prolactin basically curbs sexual appettite and prowess and downregulates dopamine receptors.
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burnyr 7y ago
I feel like nofap is a double-edged sword. On one hand, you end up feeling good about yourself because you're exercising your willpower by not jacking off, and when you feel good about yourself that shit does wonders to your personal life. Problem is, the moment you jerk off, you feel like total shit, jerk off some more, and that just keeps making you feel worse. I feel like a much better alternative is to develop good habits, and stick to them everyday. That way you're bringing actual progress into your life, and that'll feel just as good as the so called no fap benefits. If you end up having free time and you have to bust a nut, sure go for it. Just don't abuse porn.
GenghisKhanSpermShot 7y ago
I went through both extremes and found the best is masturbating 1 a week is best, not getting too angry from pent up energy and not feeling depressed from too much, but everyone is different. Ditching the porn has really helped women look even 10x better, crazy how that works.
nofilmynofucky 7y ago
Exactly. Time your jerk right and you'll be fine, I've been monk moding again and just rub one out on Friday after work
redhawkes 2 7y ago
Here's the study.
GenghisKhanSpermShot 7y ago
I wonder how taking adderall for my extreme adhd for my dopamine, because it raises it and its night and day just hope it doesnt fuck me up in the longterm. I definitely notice the differemce when i went on a nofap streak so many things related to dopamine improved but i still cant do it without adderall at this point.
[deleted] 7y ago
Holy shit what a goldmine. I always thought sex released different amounts of hormones than fapping did, finally there is some research to prove it.
So you can judge how high your prolactin is based on your refractory period? Wondering how much the hotness of the girl affects this
redhawkes 2 7y ago
The hotter the girl is, the higher the dopamine spike, hence that's why bros with oneitis here say that for someone the GFTOW doesn't work and cause fucking addiction like a heroin. You gotta fuck hotter girls than your oneitis.
RedwallAllratuRatbar 7y ago
this study says that sex counts as 4 faps for prolactine, and has nothing to do with nofap hell, it even encourages fapping compared to sex
redhawkes 2 7y ago
Where the fuck did you read that encourages fapping? If you prefer your hand over pussy, good for you.
This is the reason why no fappers think they gain some 'superpowers' after a month of nofap.
RedwallAllratuRatbar 7y ago
prolactin makes us tired, lazy and "content". That is exactly what we don't want, right?
Fappers agree prolactin is bad. Then they link study showing that sex releases even MORE prolactin than fap
redhawkes 2 7y ago
Do you not make any difference between fapping and sex.
The hotter the girl is (female pheromones, higher dopamine, skin contact) and the higher a man`s testosterone and especially DHT (acts as a Dopamine antagonist and counters the effects of Prolactin), the lesser the negative effects of Prolactin post ejaculation.
Stop puling things outta your ass and learn how to read contextual.
If you have low T and you do it compulsively, then yea it's bad.
RedwallAllratuRatbar 7y ago
way to go with that nerd machismo
redhawkes 2 7y ago
betas using female shame tactics, priceless. now change your tampon
RedwallAllratuRatbar 7y ago
nerd can't be alpha , change your ram sticks
cellphon 7y ago
A combination of testerorone levels and pheromones. Also when you are horny as fuck you are more assertive with women.
DaddyIssues6 7y ago
This so much. It's so psychological you won't even notice it happening. I hit on girls after a 5 day streak without even thinking twice about it.
frmisunderstood 7y ago
Yep im going to party and bar and i becoming that, when i fap zero result.
frmisunderstood 7y ago
But there is no pheromones into human beigns
cellphon 7y ago
That is simply untrue.
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cellphon 7y ago
Because evolution worked hundreds and hundreds of millions of years to prevent shortcuts like this. Pheromone science is very subtle and not yet completely understood.
frmisunderstood 7y ago
Prove it then
redhawkes 2 7y ago
Read, there are pheromones in sweat.
frmisunderstood 7y ago
So only women can detect that kind of shit? I was surprised, that girl from my class was flirting with me out of nowhere, when i was fapping she wasn’t into me.
redhawkes 2 7y ago
It's your behavior not because fapping.
frmisunderstood 7y ago
I do nothing for them to go crazy on me.
redhawkes 2 7y ago
So you just sit there and suddenly became pussy magnet?
boscoist 7y ago
FTFY.
[deleted] 7y ago
Must be those superpowers, they discuss on nofap reddit.
RedwallAllratuRatbar 7y ago
I will explain it to you, from my own experience.
Horny person will gaze at woman so much more, thus notice more IOI's. You are more interested in a world, more reactive, but not in afraid sheep way, more like hungry wolf way. In contrast: anxious guy looking left and right is noticing world more too, but in wrong way
If you combine horniness with some kind of confidence/prediction that you will get laid soon (for example, from reading and believing bluepill nofap theories that women just want a guy who doesn't IGNORE them. More about it in point A), you will get more confident in good way. Laypeople call it pheromones or mojo
It's possible you are more pissed, your posture improves. I, for example sleep 2h less on Nofaps, and am much more agressive and much less agreeable
A. NoFap reddit/website advocates that women are unhappy because men fap instead of sexing them. Truth is, when you're horny, you like even cuddling and kissing more (I hate kissing unless I'm really horny, just prefer to get to the thing and be done with it). So when nofap guys read hundreds of stories of hamstering women that suddenly love their man because he stopped fapping and suddenly started fucking their fat bodies (ommited fact WHY men resort to fap instead of having sex), and they like tell everyone that nofap is chick magnet
Bottom line - it sometimes works, sometimes makes you pissed, and sometimes hinders you - each attempt is different. If you have 3 plates, it can enable you to find time for 6, but when you're incel it's possible instead of meeting girl you will PM your oneitis'es constantly
[deleted] 7y ago
I couldn't even begin to list the benefits of NoFap & semen retention.
Kommanderdude 7y ago
Like what? Prostate cancer? Cause not regularly ejaculating will increase your chances.
[deleted] 7y ago
The chances of getting prostate cancer by not ejaculating are ridiculous that using it as an argument shows that you haven't done the research and just spouting what everyone says. Sheep. You are not red pilled yet.
[deleted] 7y ago
Exactly.
Semen retention is a man's natural state.
Back in our hunter/gatherer days only the beta males of the tribe masturbated because having sex wasn't an option for them.
Kommanderdude 7y ago
Lol. At least I’m never not a member of a bro science based cult lol
[deleted] 7y ago
Oh, the lies we tell ourselves.
Kommanderdude 7y ago
Ha
Kommanderdude 7y ago
Nofap is bull shit. If rubbing one out drops your test levels so low that you have zero drive. You should see a doctor and get on trt. Jacking off and porn have zero affect on me.
Now take your nofap bull shit and self terminate. Like right now.