Simple question. GF, 25 yo HB9 wants a boob job. I'll say that I'm not a breast guy, rather an ass guy. Her boobs are small (A cup) but I don't care, they look great other than being small. Her ass and hips are large and amazing. She says she wants to be proportionate and just go to a B cup.
I've always been anti-boob job. I just never understood it and thought it was impractical. I've told her that I don't think she needs it, but obviously it's her choice as it's her body. I haven't told her not to do it, just pointed out things like possible complications, cost (she doesn't exactly have the cash laying around), future children, etc.
To her, this is apparently the incorrect answer. Her rationale for having it done is her body looks as good as it's ever going to (probably true) and she wants to enjoy it while she is young (whatever that means).
How do I respond to that, if at all? I've essentially said it's stupid, but its her body so do what she wants and I'll support it. Whats the proper response?
Edit: it's probably good for me to add, we have only been together a couple months. I'm under no delusion I have any position to tell her what to do with her body. Sounds like the answer is do nothing, act unfazed, lift, keep SMV up.
stickfiguresk 8y ago
"It's your body. Do what makes you happy. I'm not paying for it."
RP_78 8y ago
This is the most important thing... then once she has those new boobs you can enjoy them while it lasts.
quicklogaccount 8y ago
Man, this bit is troublesome, isn't it? Maybe she might feel like that's meant to be qualifying her for a branch swing?
Or maybe she's just a quality chick looking into improving herself (and righteously expecting you to up your game too, afterwards)?
Honestly, IF ANYTHING, I'd inform her that new boobs won't raise her value. There are many ways to do it. Direct is pretty simple, "You know I'm not going to please queen jugs right? You know me, and I'm not getting any sort of boob job.", or you can be BP friendly (I actually advise this one, but it's about your frame) "(jokingly) You know I won't love you more because you got bigger jugs, right? But if it makes you happy, at least let's have a hell of a goodbye party for these ones."
I'd probably not say a thing though. She assesses her value, your statement won't change it. Maybe the BP if it could score me some amazing sex afterwards.
Anyway, same old. You improve, you expect a better partner and if she doesn't match, you (should) next. She improves, she'll expect a better partner, and if you don't match, she (should) next.
You're the judge for your improvement, she's the judge for hers, but somehow you have to make it match. That's how it is man.
Only thing worth stressing out is that your improvement to match hers should be about yourself, NOT offering more comfort. So, don't ask her, or she'll ask for comfort and betafy you.
BlackRob23 8y ago
She's hot, but I definitely work out more than she does and she knows it. As far as raising my value, she knows I have a good career, nice car, house, etc. I work out regularly and have a nice body. I'll keep doing that, but there isn't anything I can drastically change, i.e. lose 20 lbs, etc. Keep in mind I'm 31 and she's 25. Sweet spot for me.
Anyways she, displaying AWALT traits, moved on from her ex to me several months ago. He was definitely BP and didn't have a lot going for him. Hypergamy at its finest. I don't see her going through that again this soon, but of course AWALT and it could happen at any moment.
quicklogaccount 8y ago
Well. You know the deal.
She's raising her value for herself, not for you. You'll have to raise your value (or dread) because since you're in a LTR, she takes whatever value you have as just enough for her current self.
Just as long as you match her and keep improving for yourself, you're cool. If she likes it, good. If she doesn't, well, break ups sux but you'll be ok.
Good thing you know AWALT. Good LTR material, shitty women, all of them are AWALT just the same. It's not an ominous predicament if you know how shit works.
[deleted] 8y ago
It's her body. She can do what she wants with it.
There is nothing in the world that says you owe her your attention time and affection if she does something you don't like.
It's her body.
So what ?
It's your time, attention and affection.
RPShitlord 8y ago
Don't pay for it, don't co-sign for it.
Dump or downgrade if her paying for it causes you to pay for other things due to her not having money.
The reasons she told you were lies. You're fine with her as she is, but she wants big tits to attract other men.
cozgw 8y ago
Tell her to get a nosejob first. Don't try and convince her not to, it will only make you look bad. Go out with your friends.
jupc 8y ago
The first boob job is just the gateway surgery to more and larger boob jobs, face surgeries, nose jobs, eye surgeries, upper eyelid surgeries, and so on. When she's done you won't recognize her.
[deleted] 8y ago
"To her, this is apparently the incorrect answer. Her rationale for having it done is her body looks as good as it's ever going to (probably true) and she wants to enjoy it while she is young (whatever that means)."
She wants to enjoy huge tits while she is young.
It's hilarious how women think we are retarded, the men that built and maintain the world, isn't it?
This is almost equivalent to you getting a penis enlargement to enjoy in your youth, is it not?
[deleted] 8y ago
No proper response here, just a forewarning...
Why is she not okay with her body when you state you like it? Once she gets the boobs then how do you expect her to react?
Boob jobs are a form of body modification (disfigurement and pain infliction all to feel good and get attention), lets not kid ourselves. It is equivalent to your GF wanting to get a sexy tattoo sleeve and nipple and tongue piercings all in the same month.
Source: Good friends GF got a boob job and then was full of herself and cheated within a few months. He states he feels that she simply wanted to show them off to many different people.
Forcetobereckonedwit 8y ago
So you're telling her all the rational reasons to not do it? "Rational...reasons..." You do remember you're talking with a female right?
She wants to do it because she'll "feel" sexier, and so she'll get "more" attention from "other" guys.
You may as well tell her to do it and enjoy them puppies while you can 'cuz she's about to be not your girlfriend.
FloridaNSUplz 8y ago
Tell her it's a good idea and she can get it if she wants.
There's really no point in disagreeing. By agreeing on the other hand, you acknowledge the fact that she isn't perfect.
Serrano- 8y ago
Women often regret going too small, resulting in multiple surgeries. Have her try different implant sizes with a surgical bra to see the look you like. Actual size of the implant selected will depend on her size and weight (body profile) more than anything.
[deleted] 8y ago
Because most chicks that get tit implants are insane.
trpthroway123 8y ago
If she's paying, what's it matter?
Won't be your turn forever, at least you get to be the first one to enjoy then.
Jonny3Gurney 8y ago
As long as she's paying for it, who cares?
As a boob guy I'd say support it, but seeing as you're not, and she's just a girlfriend, it really doesn't matter unless you're going to marry her.
BlackRob23 8y ago
No talk of marriage, still rather new relationship.
serarys 8y ago
Let her do what she wants, note it down as a red flag and be weary.
Not only is she insecure about how she looks but also could use this boob job to branch swing as has already been pointed out...
drqxx 8y ago
Never Get married. Never never never.
There is no win in a marrage.
Titan_Coeus 8y ago
Im going to go against the grain here, as a lot of people see this as a 1D thing. E.g. Any attempt to improve her image is an attempt to improve her SMV and branch swing.
Women are self conscious about everything.
Most girls who have small tits want a Tit job. They're unhappy until this changes. You can't say anything that will change that view of herself as she's likely connected a titjob with her happiness.
She's not going from an A to an F - that would be attention seeking. She's going from an A to a B (but she'll probably go to a c or d - could be testing the water with your reaction). It sounds like a self esteem thing.
She'll likely do this, with or without you.
How to respond? Be unphased - meh whatever. Use it as motivation to boost your own SMV. "Do what you have to do" watch the rest of her actions though and if it's not for you. Walk away.
But don't buy into this - she's doing it to branch swing. She's probably had this on her mind since she was 17.
[deleted] 8y ago
Who does she want to pay for it?
Never buy a woman boobs, they always take off with them and their new found confidence because so many men are paying more attention to them. However they don't realize their attention never increased, only their perception.
bsutansalt 8y ago
FYI the majority of relationships end after women get a boob job due to their SMV skyrocketing and the man's staying relatively flat.
[deleted] 8y ago
She isn't getting it because she wants more attention from you, she's getting it because she wants more attention from all men. Definitely a red flag but there's nothing you can do about it.
BlackRob23 8y ago
I'm under no delusion she's getting it for me.
[deleted] 8y ago
Alright cool, at least you are aware.
[deleted] 8y ago
She wants to enjoy her body while it's young, whatever that means?
Really? You can't quite see what that means?
FrameWalker 8y ago
If it's a shit test here are some one liners:
"While you're at it get your nose done too"
"Might take more than just one boob, try both."
"Good idea! They won't notice anything missing."
Hell even if it's not a shit test have some fun with this. If she wants to swing, let her swing away! You can have a good laugh at her expense.
"I wasn't going to be the one to bring it up, glad you did"
"Get the kind that dispenses ice cold lagers, not the exploding tit sharks"
"Ass and titties ass an titties hmm i have to shoot out a few texts"
"Do they have a surgery that teaches good manners?"
"Make sure to ask for the botox/lypo value pack."
As always amused mastery. Fuck logic. Tease the fuck out of her, laugh, and stop caring. I've been realizing more and more that caring too much is a symptom of oneitis - the relationship killer.
fabosexy 8y ago
she feels incomplete. If the one most important male in her life doesnt give a shit then why does she want to go through all the effort?
redflag to me personally.
quicklogaccount 8y ago
That's because 99% of the girls, even quality ones, don't think "the male" should have anything to do with these wishes.
This is actually a smart move. Most men are shit, she can't fully trust her filter, so she'll avoid relying on him unless she needs him. This is a green flag for me actually.
If she does rely on him and acknowledges his value afterwards instead of taking him for granted, that's the behavior of a unicorn.
cozgw 8y ago
The fuck are you talking about?
1v1mebruh 8y ago
I think I found the woman here boys. Look at that hamster go!
detachedbymarriage 8y ago
You sure you understand the way women think?
Women are both emotional and social creatures, they make choices based on how they feel and how she thinks her friends see her.
While she is probably not doing this with the intent to branch swing, she is definitely doing it for her image vs what other people think. And her image with outsiders out weights that of her b/f(op).
She might not being going about this with the intent to leave him, but the new found validation from men will ultimately break then apart.
This is along the same lines as the fat chick who lost 100lbs.
Edit: also...do you know what a unicorn is? Its a fool with a ice cream cone glued to their head.
quicklogaccount 8y ago
Yeah, that behavior doesn't actually exist. Just pointing out, that's what a quality girl should behave like. But she won't.
But think think for a second. Man are little automata trained to enable whores, no self respect. We're basically here to VALIDATE women these days, why should a woman care about a man's opinion about getting boobs or not? Why should OP's girl presume her boyfriend is above the rest? I mean, her father probably isn't.
There's yet another aspect I hadn't thought about.
Would you take advice of your girl on whether you should lift or not? Cut or bulk? No, because she wants to lower attraction.
His girlfriend projects herself, as all people do, so...
That stressed, I agree with you, completely, about what her boobs will cause. She's getting boobs, she'll feel better, and she'll look into a new branch.
To prevent that he'll have to feel better for her - increase his SMV - and most likely he'll need to dread her into seeing it.
If he asks her, naturally, she'll ask for COMFORT, and will branch swing faster.
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quicklogaccount 8y ago
If most weren't, RP would be mainstream.
I have zero issues with being corrected. It doesn't happen a lot, yet it happens quite often. This is not the case.
SexistFlyingPig 8y ago
Yeah. Boob job for her = branch swing to a better branch.
Have fun with that ass while it's in your court, but don't be surprised when it leaves.
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neveragoodtime 8y ago
Certainly what my ex did.
[deleted] 8y ago
If you look at super slutty older chicks, many of them have boob jobs.
RedPillAtNight 8y ago
My ex too.
ecosci 8y ago
She is ready to branch over but needs validation from you first i think you may be the test dummie before she goes alpha hunting because they love nice tits i would allow it shes doing it for other guys anyway she will change big time its what women do before they leave you they alter the body, weight loss, hair styles and boob jobs awalt.
jtzabor 8y ago
Tell her not to get the cheap ones? They look like shit.
tridentmark 8y ago
It's funny when they try to convince you that you want them to have bigger tits so you should pay for it.
BlackRob23 8y ago
She knows there is zero chance of me paying for it.
tridentmark 8y ago
I occasionally meet a FWB or plate that tries this shit on me.
neveragoodtime 8y ago
What will happen though, is more complaining about she needs some help with groceries, rent, utilities, because obviously all her money went to her boobs and you do get that benefit, after all... I would say if her boobs aren't good enough for her, then she's not good enough for you. You don't want the hassle, she's shown you her red flag, whether she gets the surgery or not. Now act on it and move on.
YoureAfuckingRobot 8y ago
Let her get the tits and you enjoy them. If she asks for money for this type of shit say no and then move on. It's only been a few months so who cares. If she's using them to branch swing then maybe OP needs to polish up his skills.
I don't understand why most guys here are advising to move on right away. Just because a girl gets tits done doesn't mean she is going to swing, keep your shit together and everything will be fine. HB9 + fake tits = fucking awesome.