Some guys are funny and enjoy making women laugh. I'm one of them, and not in the seeking validation and making up for a lack of personality way. Obviously, that can lead to the problem of going into the abyss we call friend zone. So..... Am I supposed to be minimally humorous prior to the lay? Pretty boring for me, but sex is better than friend zone.
How can you tell the point where making her laugh is also making you unattractive?
Transistorplanets 8y ago
You are under a misapprehension. There is no point at which you are creating "too much" laughter. It's something else.
quicklogaccount 8y ago
These are the gateways:
Making jokes and making them laugh by no means sends you to the friendzone. As a rule of thumb attractive men aren't friendzoned. The women won't try to do it because they know they'll get friendzoned as well, but if a friend of yours starts venting too much, CUT HER OFF and change subjects to something fun, or rather, activities.
"Try hards", those guys that hit on her and upon failure try to befriend her, aren't friendzoned. They're creeps.
BreathOfDick 8y ago
Holy shit, the STOP the game. Why do they do that part? Never attracted in the first place?
quicklogaccount 8y ago
It can be that, but as long as she has control of herself and her actions, she'll probably be ok to game. Once she senses she's about to lose this control, she'll try to regain it somehow. LMR, and if she's your friend, she'll stop.
Not sure if it ever happened with you. It doesn't matter how much you're rationally aware nothing will happen, it SUCKS to have the door slammed.
These days I just halt it myself, it can be done in a very humorous way.
LockedOnTheRedPill 8y ago
There is a difference between being funny & Charming and funny & creepy. In the end though, it all boils down to whether the girl is attracted to you. I used to be the fat, funny friend. Now I'm the in-shape, guy she fucks on the weekend who is "sooooo hilarious." Being funny can add a shit ton of value, but only if you have already established a baseline of value with the girl already. You must be attractive. That's the biggest thing.
BreathOfDick 8y ago
Alright ty. This is mostly from reading some things saying funny can often get you the LJBF response and I've had tough luck lately. Didn't know if that was the problem. I don't tryhard and be a clown, it's natural in the conversations.
Dr_HoaxArthurWilmoth 8y ago
Are you wearing clown shoes and hitting her face with pies or something bro?
I've made people laugh till they cried who wanted to fuck me. I have done the same with women who didn't have those feelings.
There is really no net loss in being "too funny". That girl wil introduce you to her friends like this, "Oh, you have to meet my friend BreathofCuck, he's the funniest guy I know!" INSTANT INTEREST AND VALIDATION.
Work with what you have. If you only want to fuck her, start touching her when you make her laugh and escalate. If she is REALLY not into it, she will stop laughing and push your hands away. Then soft next.
BreathOfDick 8y ago
Thanks man, maybe I'm not bringing in kino soon enough. And no I'm not going all tryhard. That was me like 1.5 years ago because low self esteem and seeking validation - now it's just part of the conversations.
brinkleybuzz 8y ago
If you are being spontaneously and genuinely funny in the natural flow of a conversation or interaction, no problem.
If you are performing comedy routines for women to impress them, big problem. They will sense that you are trying too hard to impress them and dry up as a result.
I think this is how you can tell the difference. If the thought enters your mind, "I will do [insert action] to impress her", then don't do it.
BreathOfDick 8y ago
Used to go the validation-seeking route, but then I lost 65 lbs and now it's just natural in the conversation. RP has helped a fuckton but I keep striking out, so I just wanted to throw this up and get some opinions. Thank you
VasiliyZaitzev 8y ago
Good humor is an indicator of intelligence and therefor genetic fitness.
But You Still Have To Close, Funny Man!
flat6turbo 8y ago
dance, monkey, dance!
BreathOfDick 8y ago
Hah that's why I dropped tinder. So many profiles "Make me laugh or I wont respond." "Entertain me and maybe we'll talk" etc. etc. Entitled cunts.
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
So do the opposite. Tell her "You're not funny" and proceed from there. Don't make them laugh if they demand it.
Ditching Tinder doesn't mean you've eliminated female entitlement nor hamsters.
UEMcGill 8y ago
You should only keep people in your life who bring you value. Women, men, even relatives should all have positive value. If she laughs at your jokes but is fun to be around, doesn't sucker you into being her orbiter she may provide value even if she isn't on your ladder to Fuck or you hers.
If you are being funny as a way to Fuck her be wary of the covert contract; thinking if I do x, she'll Fuck me. Be clear with your intentions upfront.
BreathOfDick 8y ago
Excellent point, I won't forget that.
AnjaJutta 8y ago
Your problem has nothing to do with being funny.
Red_Invictus 8y ago
The best answer I have for you OP, and it's not really answering your question, but a simple truth I've noticed posted throughout the years here on TRP - why are male comedians better than female comedians??
Good Comedy, in the end, is about dominance.
If you're worried about being too funny or trying too hard, that's not creating comedy, or being funny, from a frame of dominance. There's many different humor types out there, but the polar opposite and worst is the self-deprecating (beta) kind.
The more physically and/or socially powerful you are, the funnier you are, the more women will find you funny with less effort. It's all about dominance.
The point is when you start being consciously aware of it or wondering if it's making you unattractive. If you're 110% into having your fun, this thought never enters the equation/your frame. It's funny because you say it is, with your body language, vibe, and passion.
TLDR: I simply think giving too many fucks is holding you back here OP.
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
Depends on the type of humour, and why you're doing it.
I'm told I'm pretty fucking funny, and it doesn't limit my chances. Why? Because it's the right kind of funny and I do it to entertain myself and have fun, it's somewhat edgy and definitely alienates some people (people I want filtered out, this is a handy timesaver).
Your homework is to be not at all funny in a social group. Learn to cope in other ways. Then bring the funny back later.
idgaf- 8y ago
When you are both laughing that is an emotional high point. What you do next says a lot about what kind of man you are.
On such high points, you should consider leading or leaving. Leading can anything like:
A lot of it depends on body language, rapport, and your calibration.
Leaving is also powerful because it shows you're just not attached, and have other options. Especially good early in a night. If your attention shifts, just let it. You can always re-open and it will be on a high note.
Both options are better than letting the emotional high point "fizzle".