Hey Gang,
I've been doing TRP for a 10 months or so, read all the sidebar stuff. I can't find the post but someone on the red pill subreddit mentioned a bodybuilder at work who made fat melt away with the Protein Sparing Modified Fast. I've read all I can about it online and am trying to go for it. Has anyone else been down this path and been successful or failed?
I tried the PSMF subreddit but didn't get helpful advice, and r/ bodybuilding pretty much thinks I'm an idiot for asking this stuff.
Thanks!
I'm trying to cut for the first time ever after doing stronglifts 5x5 for about 10 months with Dr Pasquale's anabolic diet. I also ride a bike around town for several hours a week. I bought a handheld OMRON fat tester off Amazon and it tells me my bodyfat is between 16% and 17% depending on hydration.
I read Lyle McDonalds Rapid Fat Loss handbook and Tim Ferris's four hour body and have decided to use the PSMF Protein Sparing Modified Fast to see how fast I can cut from 17% to 10% body fat. I would be satisfied with 12% body fat long term for daily living.
I'm trying Tim Ferris's PAGG stack wich is Poliocosanol, Garlic, Green Tea, and Alpha Lipoic Acid. I'm also using Now Sports Testojack (longjack ali, ginseng, plus other herbs) and Cordyceps.
My plan is to just eat tuna, chicken, whey protein and greens for 2 weeks at about 600 to 800 calories a day, maybe with an occasional egg and some smoked salmon. Should I add something to the stack to speed up fat loss? Maybe Ephedera or Nicotine Gum? I have read that I shouldn't try this for longer than 2 weeks without a major carb-up refeed. Should I do re-feeds more often? Anyone know how long this will take to cut and how I can make it go better or faster?
Thanks!
TLDR New to PSMF - M44 189lbs 17% BF 6'3" -- Want to get to 10% BF ASAP
Anyone succeeded at getting kind of ripped damn fast?
FrameWalker 7y ago
Make sure you monitor your bodyfat and weight and lifts. Every week adjust. So if you lost muscle and fat eat 100 cal mor per day. If you lost fat and kept all your muscle stay the same and if you gained fat drop your calories.
That 600 number is gonna lead to muscle loss. It takes a while to put on muscle and its stupid to throw it away. Try eating calories to maintain your lean muscle mass first. Probably the 2200-2500 range on workout days
melxer 7y ago
Problem is that you can't really monitor it week after week, the impedance scale are too imprecise, I weight myself multiple times a day and my BF can go from 16 to 18. Depending on whether you ate, shat, your hydratation level, it can vary a lot.
FrameWalker 7y ago
Try some skinfold calipers. The accufit or accumeasure ones that click at the correct pressure are great. Even if it doesnt translate to bodyfat accurately the changes in thickness accurately chart bodyfat changes.
brooklynisburnin 7y ago
I wouldn't do it, does it work? Well math checks and so does the science behind it, but if you're not keeping your hormonal levels fixed exogenously, you're in for a huge emotional fucked up ride.
frozenalaskent 7y ago
Ditch the Tim ferris stack. Pirate the RFL book and read it. It will explain everything. It's a fucking hard diet. Mentally. It's seriously hard. But it's the most efficient diet out there if you can handle it.
Read the book. Stick to it.
balalasaurus 7y ago
I'm not sure about going below BMR as the science on that is still iffy. The closest thing I can think to what you're talking about is the Dukan diet. I knew a guy who did that for a bit and the weight just melted off but he couldn't sustain it, and felt like shit while doing it. At the end of the day you want to do something that you can keep up long term over something that has fast results. Maybe try keto for a while or a leangains type diet.
Don_Keydick 7y ago
No No No. 800 calories a day is way too little. You're going to lose all your muscle and necessary water stores plus your body will not react nicely. Just take it nice and slow. Summer bodies are created in the winter.