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Figures that he would elevate the above model just enough to offer a tautology. Also ironic because most of the people and groups people call degenerate tend to carelessly out-reproduce those who can clearly define terms and carry abstract discussions.
Very true. I think that definition of not reproducing was used to win an argument about homos. There's nothing else to it.
@Whisper I'm sober now. I'll answer your question.
This doesn't necessarily mean that degeneracy isn't a thing, but it does make it hard to talk about, because even the people using the term don't seem to be entirely clear on what it means.
I gave you some historical context about the concept of degeneracy. Apparently that wasn't clear enough for you. But vague marxist freudian labels were super clear. Seems to me you define clarity as brievity.
We don't need to define terms exactly to talk about them. When I say "look at that pond over there", you don't pull out a laser measurement device and establish parameters to differentiate between a pond and a lake, do you? "Pah all these fools keep talking about ponds but no one knows the exact definition on a pond's dimensions."
Degenerate has the common meaning and usage of: degraded, beneath, inferior, lesser status. It is an insult that assumes you've fallen from a better state to become what you are now. Like any insult its value judgements can be interpreted any way by the person stating the insult. "Men were noble and free as savages, but we have degenerated to an capitalistic society". "Men were masculine, but we degenerated into feminine men." "I don't like what I see, its a symptom of degeneracy." "The white man was a noble great race, but white man has degenerated into a normie now because of jews." "The jews were a noble race, but jews have degenerated from YHWH because of goyim." "You're a fucking idiot, you are degenerate." etc.
Are you a robot?
Read More@Whisper I think he's talking about a Freudian interpretation. Rightists look up to and maintin authority figures aka fathers and are therefore infected by their ideologies. Leftists reject the authority figures aka fathers, reject their ideologies, refuse to maintain them, and look to contemporaries aka brothers for support.
@Whisper The concept of degeneracy first appeared in western thought about 3000 to 4000 years ago in occultic schools around the Mediterranian, like judaic, caainite, orphic, mithraic cults. The mythologies had some variation of a divine hermaphroditic entity that split and created the universe. It went from 1 to many. Everything that came after that split was an inferior version of the original and every iteration was inferior to the previous one. The split also created a godly realm and a meterial realm.
Ancient greek philosophy is a secularized version of this tale. Essential characteristics that make an object that object are in another realm, and this realm is an inferior copy of that realm, etc etc. Essential qualities are becoming inferior with every iteration and the objects are multiplying etc etc.
Fast forward to now, the simplest definition is twofold: something that has become many from a perfect one, something that has become inferior in some aspects from the perfect origin. Obviously the essential characteristics are open to debate and judgement.
Read MoreLearn to differentiate "interest" from "intent". Intent comes with a plan.
This! Women can string a "nice guy" like young me for YEARS by feigning juuuuust enough fake interest to exploit his interest in her for all the attention and prizes this can reap. She can and will do this with no conscience or remorse. This is why a man needs to decisively escalate sooner rather than later when romantic involvement is his intent. One might fear "spoiling the opportunity" in this manner, but as long as your approach and methods are reasonably calibrated, your approach won't spoil that which wasn't rotten at the core from the beginning.
