So, context: every summer, this family in my neighborhood holds a block party to commemorate the end of the public school year.
Naturally, I looked at this as a chance to go catch up with the old bus gang. The people that I used to sit in the back of the bus with all throughout high school (until I got my driver's license).
I go, and it's fun, we're catching up on old times. Then the topic comes up (somehow) about mental health, and, a girl chimes in saying:
"I don't get what guys can be mentally stressed about...at least they don't have to deal with the pay gap and the other shit we have to."
Now, I didn't say anything to respond to that; I just shrugged. It's a neighborhood gathering, I'm not about to cross lines. Also, what she said didn't exactly hit me until later.
Later that evening, I remembered that, and suddenly, I started thinking: what if I had said that about women? What if I had suddenly just said "I don't know what women are so stressed about..."?
I picture a pack of SJW Indian mothers and daughters chasing after me with their naan rollers. Bit extreme, but you get the idea.
Point is this: women love to talk about how "easy" men have it, and say that they don't know what makes men so stressed. But, if men start saying that about women, it's heresy.
More implicit, but still one nonetheless.
catapotium-rubrum 7y ago
There's no need to say anything of the like, just STFU and laugh internally.
Women get off on disgust, when they're sneering or looking down their nose at men. They get off on the fantasy that they're better than men.
ManSoldWorld 7y ago
Never said anything...just nodded.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
That’s because women don’t see the bad parts of being a guy, just like they don’t see the lower echelon men. Just like we all have a “No Fat Chix” rule, guys who are losers - the kind we can ALL agree are losers - are invisible to women. Also, they only see (and want) the rewards in life, they don’t see the WORK that went into it.... because they don’t WANT to see it.
What men do isn’t easy. If men all disappeared tomorrow, civilization would last until the first oil change.
No Hamster left behind.
SKRedPill 7y ago
There is a piecenof writing by Rollo called "The Male Experience" which hits home on how women simply are incapable of admitting the male experience. It's not the obvious fact that you cannot see through another's eyes as much as the literal incapability to accept it. And with that I woke up to the delusion of trying to expect the understanding I was seeking from women.
SKRedPill 7y ago
It's a sobering realization, but it'll help to know that most of the people in the world are only interested in their own welfare and cannot see beyond that, no matter what they say. Equality for me is not the same as equality for all. Most people will never know what it's like until the world's experiences bitch slap it into their skulls. Such statements are not made with any awareness, and definitely not in a logical pursuit to find the facts. I have never, ever seen a woman discuss or argue with the end goal of finding the truth - when they argue, it's usually because something went wrong for her.
It is better to assume that the person in front of you is a selfish ass who only cares for more power to themselves and the world is at best a solution to the traffic problem that happens when everyone thinks the same way. In a man's life, it's kind of obvious that once you're grown up you're responsible for yourself and apart from your parents and a few close friends, no one really gives a shit about you (unless you're paying them.) Women's ways are different. Supposedly God first made the world, then he made man, then woman, and that story is supposed to tell you how the control logic was designed.
If at all anyone isn't like that, it's usually towards their kids - and that too only because parental love has almost no needs from a child.
Children are totally sollipsistic, women very much so in more complex ways, and men somewhat lesser, but dark triad guys especially so. The very nature of Emotion IS sollipsistic, or else it would be just logic. Women are simply not wired to have the kind of empathy for men as they do for their children and equality is only a card that's used because it benefits them - it's really just equality for me, that's all. When it doesn't, they'll just switch to the woman card. In reality, it's only WOMEN and it was only about women.
ManSoldWorld 7y ago
There’s a psychological concept I read about that relates to your first paragraph. It’s that in the end, there’s a selfish side to every human action. So, you’re absolutely right when you say you should assume that every person in front of you has a selfish side; not that that’s a bad thing, as rational narcissism is the key to success and satisfaction (key word being rational).
SKRedPill 7y ago
Relationships ARE needs. Somewhere in that we are given the emotional rush to make us want them, which is a need in itself, but all nature is doing is serving various needs through relationships. Without needs or the feels, there'd be no need for relationships. If these needs are not met, sooner or later there would be no relationship.
Understanding this is fundamental to knowing the truth underneath all the poetry and fantastic expressions.
doitforthestory8 7y ago
Double standards exist nothing worth complaining about. nothing can be done. Dont look at what if i said this etc. Just shrug her off as someone who has no time to do anything but complain.
ManSoldWorld 7y ago
Already shrugged her off. The thought just came up
Entropy-7 7y ago
Other than earnings - and that is a productivity gap rather than a wage gap - virtually every metric favours women over men in modern, industrialized nations. They live longer, have higher life satisfaction, better work-life balance, lower stress levels, etc etc etc. That is even before considering all the affirmative action programs that pave the way for mediocre women to compete with competent men.
rasta_rusk_99 7y ago
hahaha that part with indian sjw mothers and their naan rollers cracked me up!
SKRedPill 7y ago
Believe me, that'll never be a domestic abuse issue. Anyway, I wonder about the beta guys that must be on the receiving end of that. For a matter of observation, most of them are utterly beta and lazy.
rasta_rusk_99 7y ago
All true, but personally I have learned my lesson that helping betas could end up in two ways. Either they will throw you under the bus or, they will cut ties with such a misogynistic asshole as you. Some have actually asked me for help and advice but are just too idiotic and weak to follow through. They love living in the illusion and can't help being drawn into it even if they know on an intellectual level it will screw them up.
I used to cringe every time I saw good friends (men) bending over backwards for women. I tried explaining them how the women (not even girlfriends, sometimes just female friends) were actually taking advantage of them behind all that sweet talk and cute acts. My mistake. Now I just follow the principle live and let live. Whenever I see betaness taking place, I just accept that it is how this guy wants to live. I don't cringe and judge the guy or try to preach. I just make a mental note to keep my mouth shut and enjoy the time spent with them.
SKRedPill 7y ago
Yeah, biggest mistake is thinking that you can wake up guys who're determined to sleep. Nearly everyone (including veterans here) need reality to slap 'em to their senses.
ManSoldWorld 7y ago
There was a lovely post on here a while ago discussing why arranged marriages led to the reigning of beta males in India. It’s sad, but it’s improving over there in that regard.
Personally, I’ve never been hit with a naan roller. I’ve gotten pushed and slapped across the face, but I was acting like a little shit, so I’ll say that I deserved it.
SKRedPill 7y ago
Doesn't matter which country. At any given time, only a small fraction of men anywhere ever maximize their SMV and their full potential.
Stick around long enough and you realize that culture race and language are small factors and nearly all the issues are the same everywhere, because biology and psychology.
salinorum 7y ago
Here's some ammo for you
https://youtu.be/aMcjxSThD54
Gobraves44 7y ago
Being born an above average looking male is pretty much like winning the lottery though. She’s not totally wrong
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Model looking Chad who is 'street' smart is winning the lottery at life for sure. He will get ton of jelaous enemys, crazy psycho bitchez dou...
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willowhawk 7y ago
Can confirm, my life is pretty fucking easy
Cantloginhere 7y ago
For real? Women are by far the most privileged in modern society.
Social Bias - Stay at home mom, fine. Get a job, any job fine, in fact you will find plenty of women's networks to help you. Police always side with women. Men get heaver prison sentencing for same crimes, women automatically get child custody etc.
Health - Live longer, work less, less likely to have a work related accident. Less likely to be victim of violence, but try to find a men's shelter in your town. Women and children first, white knight protectors all that jazz.
And still they are the 'victims'. The reason for the pay gap is the choices women make, like coasting mid career. Men don't have the same privileges and plough on.
RandomReeditUser 7y ago
There's no such thing as the pay gap, but you already knew that.
Thynome 7y ago
To be fair, there is an earning gap. But no pay gap obviously
oyoungpadawan 7y ago
Double standards suck.
Recently I made out with an 18 year old girl, female friends called me a fucking creep and said I should never go for 18 year olds. (I'm 29) Started ruining my reputation.
Untill I showed em the messages she sent me, she was practically begging me to fuck her.
Then my female friends said: If she wants it this bad then it's ok, fuck her good....
Wtf
SKRedPill 7y ago
I don't see a contradiction there brother, at least not anymore.
The_Chiselnator 7y ago
Women take no responsibility for anything. They are like children. Can't blame a fish for swimming in water. It doesn't matter what the bitch du jour whines about. Shrug, ignore and move on
gains_o_clock 7y ago
bro Indians are very RP or at least the ones from India or 1st/2nd generation. The moms cook, the men eat first, divorce rate is very low, men and women both know their roles and go out and do them. It's like old school America before all this newfound BS
SuperDende9000 7y ago
As a 2nd-gen Indian immigrant in the States, I totally agree. (The whole men eating first thing is BS though, wtf?) The sheer irony here is that both men and women have stronger senses of agency — when both know who has to do what, they’re more willing to help eachother out when the going gets tough (e.g. the woman earning a second income, or the man doing household chores).
I wouldn’t necessarily say Indians are RP though, more tradcon than anything else. Sex is very taboo (TRP encourages fucking around, something seen as appalling in India). And Indian parents don’t typically fuck for any other reason than procreation due to living sexually repressed upbringings. However, Indian men are certainly quite alpha (contrary to popular belief), I thank my own dad for being a strict masculine guide in my life instead of your average beta and pussy-whipped soyboy you see in American households today. All I have to do is apply the alpha archetype instilled into me by my parents to the SMP.