TL;DR: AWALT is not a cop-out to excuse your own mistakes and correctable behavior when committing to an LTR.
It's a story we've seen on here all too often. The ex-Bluepill sob story, about how a guy ended up with a scummy chick, who ended up cheating on him, or manipulating him, or whatever happened, which lead him to seeing the light that is Redpill at the end of a dark tunnel. It's a story most of us can relate to, even if we didn't have to crawl through that tunnel full of shit to embrace TRP, everyone's been in a shitty relationship at some point. Moreover, AWALT is a term with a lot of legitimacy to it.
If you're a booky type, you've probably at least heard of Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness. I can already tell you're rolling your eyes but bare with me a bit here. It's an old ass boring book so I'm not going to go super specific, but basically, the overall message is that the shitty parts of human nature are present in everybody regardless of origin. This is the embodiment of AWALT. All women are the same. All women are human, and humans have patterns in their behavior, both good and bad, and it's easy to identify these behaviors. Hypergamy, branch-swinging, shit like that. You get the point.
Now I only said all of that because in order to fully understand my post, and as sort of a preface that I'm not trying to gatekeep a made up word on the internet like a faggot, we need to find a common ground on what the Acronym means. And now that we got all that shit out of the way:
AWALT is not a cop out for your own shitty behavior.
The thing that separates the Bluepill from the Redpill is self-improvement. You're not some Incel sitting at his computer whining all day about how you can't get bitches on your dick, you're willing to improve yourself, not only just to score some quick pussy on the weekends but also just to be an all around better person in general. And the first step on the road to self-improvement is admitting that you made mistakes and that you're willing to learn from them.
Going back to the Bluepill sob story: Don't get me wrong here, I sympathize with you bro. But to put it blunt, you're the one who let a shitty person into your life and let them do shitty things to you. That is not just AWALT. If you're a big boy now, and you're ready to improve yourself, you can't just whisk that away by saying all women are like this. That is completely, 100%, your fault. But that's okay, because you're going to learn from that.
Think about it this way, let's say you wanted to get a dog. Would you get the well-trained dog, a dog that's well-behaved and perfect for living with humans, or some mangy, feral stray you found on the side of the street? If you adopted the feral stray, you can't blame it for being the primal thing that it is. Think about women the same way. If you date a girl who has zero moral values and can't fight against her own nature, don't act surprised when you get more than you bargained for.
So in closing, next time you think back on that shitty LTR that drove you to Redpill, don't cry about it. Learn from it. Accept that you made a mistake and that you're willing to move on. Don't just say AWALT and be an angry beta about it, man up to it and promise yourself that you'll adopt the well-trained dog instead of the stray one next time.

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I'm really digging the quality of posts getting to the front page.
inspireyourself 8y ago
It seems like you story is speaking to me personally. Long term LTR (3.5 years) manipulated the shit out of me. I can't believe I was so blind to all of it, in the name of fucking "love."
Now, its been 3 months since our break up. Fucking bitch has left the country, another leech with a green card abusing the United States. Pathetic! I can't believe the cunt actually had the balls to call me when she was about to depart, to tell me "Please don't have any hopes of us getting back together." LOL. Never ever.
I am currently in the anger phase. More than her, I am actually angry at myself, for allowing all this shit happen to me. For spending my hard earned money and my super valuable time. I'm currently 31, and I just swallowed the red pill.
Your_Coke_Dealer 8y ago
Tl;dr: AWALT, but your frame and choice in women also sucks.
lonelystar82 8y ago
Wow that is a nice post. Was reading some MGTOW posts, and unsubscribed for all the AWALT bullshit propagating there. Will save this post as a self motivation and self-improvement guide.
toadparking 8y ago
Excellent post! This was always one area that I have struggled with regarding TRP. I've seen posts that describe horrible behavior by men and then they wonder why women react the way they do and then men scream AWALT! Human behavior comes into play here, in that, shitty treatment may cause shitty reactions.
Liart13 8y ago
What the hell is that? TRP comment section that is not filled with men who are hysterically afraid of being hurt by a woman? That refreshing.
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SuperCrazy07 8y ago
I'm not sure I believe this. I think the percentage of women who accuse men of sexual assault is quite low. It's just the consequences are so awful for men.
sunbro29 8y ago
Yep. Fucked it up with a girl who was a virgin before she met me. Dated four years. Got 99% of everything I wanted. She broke it off. I can say AWALT and pound my keyboard, or maybe I can realize I became a controlling beta in the last few months and who can truly stay with a controlling beta who skipped gym, stopped dressing well, and had -100 dread game. Sometimes, it's best to take responsibility, and become better.
52andjacked 8y ago
My Red Pill moment came in 1992 at the age of 24. I was living with a bar fly and her 2 kids. Being home at 4am was too much to ask. After I threw her out I reevaluated everything and stopped dating women who went to clubs. Simple as that. Refused. Line in the sand. Shut out 85% of the available women but the remaining 15% were of much higher quality. Later that year I automatically removed any and all promiscuous women from being a LTR candidate. How do I find this out? Get drunk with them and act like the most liberal, non judgemental, open minded ex man whore. Once filled with truth serum in a comfortable environment they tell all. Lastly, around age 30 I began inquiring about their credit and refused to date a woman with bad credit. Found my then 21 year old wife when I was 32. 20 years later we have a wonderful life and I pat myself on the back daily for keeping my bar high.
askmrcia 8y ago
So where did you find this 21 year old wife of yours as your were 30?
That's a big detail left out in your comment
52andjacked 8y ago
She was a bookkeeper for Winn-Dixie and I was the truck driver. In the little world of Winn-Dixie truck drivers, pharmacists, store and assistant managers were top of the food chain in the company dating circle.
52andjacked 8y ago
She passed the ultimate test. The top player at Winn-Dixie was a driver named Garland. We were cool. Or so I thought. My wife asked if we were friends. I said yes. She said well, he hit on me today. He had given her a ride home once and didn't get anywhere before we met. Anyway, the fact that she had a chance with him-a legitimately good looking guy and didn't go anywhere-and then came and told me said everything there was to say about her.
askmrcia 8y ago
Ahh ok Thank you for the explanation.
420KUSHBUSH 8y ago
I've always resorted to the sober route, seems to work well
Prophets_Prey 8y ago
Solid approach. Definitely using this.
youngzari 8y ago
This might have been the most realest comment I've read on here. Purely because of the fact you wanted better, trusted your instincts and got it. I'm 31 feelings like I'm wasting my time casually laying these chicks I really needed this. It's time to level up.
Edit: To be fair you came up in a different time. The dating world is deplorable pit fulled with degeneracy. I'm still willing to take the challenge.
jm51 8y ago
You're the opposite of the old saying 'Marry in haste, repent at leisure.' Well done.
When I was in sales, one company motto was: 'You don't get what you expect, you get what you inspect.'
HumanSockPuppet Vanguard 8y ago
That saying should be "Marry at all, repent in leisure."
52andjacked 8y ago
I love it. Women say their past isn't my business. The hell it isn't. Like the weather, the past isn't a perfect indicator of future events. Just a damn good one.
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
It was a great story until this point
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Biggie_Smores 8y ago
You clearly haven't read TRM...
DayGameChirality 8y ago
TRM is pseudo-science trash. The only valuable essays are those that are on Feminine Imperative.
52andjacked 8y ago
How is my screening process for women not RP? Like anything, I take nuggets of wisdom from everywhere and apply it to my life. Whenever I go to a math teaching seminar or a bodybuilding seminar I don't buy it all 100% but I do incorporate aspects of it and make it my own. There wasn't a Red Pill available when I was single. I was already doing the RP things subconsciously to attract top notch(looks) women. Randomly fucking messed up women who threw pussy my way eventually got old. Especially if they were stupid and I had to listen to them speak in order to get laid. Its good practice but I came to view these women as time wasters. Where I differed then and still do is that I view the traditional family as the ideal. I admit in today's dating scene it's difficult and risky for men. Both emotionally and financially. AWALT isn't perfect though. Neither is RP. Neither take into account outliers. As in all areas of life, outliers are out there. I know because I married one. I'm telling young men who are RP and still dream of a nuclear family where to avoid finding the typical ones that fuck up your life. RP philosophy still holds true there. If you want to attract a high quality woman it starts with self improvement. Where I differ is in my definition of a ":trophy wife". I break many RP rules with my wife simply because I can and our relationship is better for it. Other parts I embrace dearly. For me to feel confident I HAVE to stay at the top of my game as far as my appearance and career goes. I stay at 8% bodyfat year round, work out, run, dress nice, and constantly strive for improvements in all areas of life. As a result my wife respects me and wants to screw me regularly. If for no other reason she knows that if she doesn't, there is no shortage of women who will. I would never go there but its good for her to recognize the fact that I still could at 52. Again, more RP thinking.
Biggie_Smores 8y ago
Yeah well read the book lol. His 20 page chapter on the topic is my response to your wall of text.
Library slut = club slut.
It's all relative context.
VickVaseline 8y ago
Wait. What? If you were 24 in 1992, then you should be 50 now.
Sorry, OCD.
52andjacked 8y ago
I turned 52 today so maybe my math was wrong.
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gbdoragnic 8y ago
This entire post is virtue signalling, I see this a lot on TRP, AWALT is a term for beta to keep them for thinking they found a unicorn or a women who will go against her human nature. This is only important because society stuffs this ideology down the throats of men on a 24/7.
After all how many stories do you have along the lines of, "I was mean to my girl friend, I treated her like shit, I ignored her phone calls" , but rather, "I did everything for her, I always paid, I put her needs above mine".
> The thing that separates the Bluepill from the Redpill is self-improvement.
No, actually the red pill is much more lazy than blue pill, I can say this because I spent most of my life blue and the amount of time and money I saved on swallowing the pill is significant.
> If you date a girl who has zero moral values and can't fight against her own nature, don't act surprised when you get more than you bargained for.
Her morals don't matter, you didn't choose a bad person, you were the problem, not your choice, this is what AWALT is, even if she has morals, sexual attraction is primal. Heroin addict or virgin girl who was Christian her entire life , don't matter, only thing that matters is tingles.
I mean it goes both ways, fat wife at home vs Super model, A lot of the loyalty of men is solely due to their options, if most blue pill guys could attract women they would fuck more, but this isn't due to lazyness, otherwise this would be call StopbeingLazy, it's due to a lack of information , therefore saying, "I'm shitty become better", you should say, "I know have new truth and perception to operate under"
> And the first step on the road to self-improvement is admitting that you made mistakes and that you're willing to learn from them.
I think guys realized they made a mistake, that isn't the issue, the issue is lack of knowledge, which is why blue pill guys make the same mistake 20 times, because they blame themselves, They were to fat, no funny enough, not good looking enough, didn't have social skills ect..., once you swallow the pill ,it becomes a lot easier.
In Short All girls are AWALT, and pointing out isn't a attack on women, it just coming to terms with reality vs the Disney movie. NO ONE WILL LOVE YOU "JUST" FOR BEING YOU
yomo86 8y ago
One point of self-reflection is AMALT. All men are the same. The lamantation of women about cheating men who don't provide are manifold.
As soon as you start looking into the issue men, given the chance, are just as hypergamous.
We don't branch but pussy swing, no requirements other than average looks and a fertile age required. The only problem is many men cannot experience this due to the, sometimes self-imposed, betafication.
Become a top 20% male and see for yourself. One will become very laid back with female behaviour when you know that the next pussy drooling over your awsome personality ist just an approach away.
Bottom line: We are all just apes. Thinking men are something inherently better in the SMV is beta thinking.
ozaku7 8y ago
Most women are actually just fine but just whiney incels cry AWALT at everything that doesn't comply with their laziness. "But but, women are dirty cheaters!!! ALL OF THEM". Well, maybe become a man that provides the woman with the sexual satisfaction so she doesn't need another dick?
Really, AWALT is nothing but a self-defense mechanism like "All dogs bite" or the feministic equivalent that all men are assholes by default. Most AWALT criers don't even introspect to see if they are probably much like any other men, the equivalent of AMALT, namely that all men just want to have sex and no meaningful relationship without doing any of the effort to actually be attractive to a woman, who rather prefer to be accepted as they are because that takes the least time and energy.
All those hurt betas are just a bunch of lazy fucks who are angry that the game doens't work according to their convenience, and it's good that these bastards cannot procreate. They must be filtered out of the gene pool and I support women in their shit tests. It sucks for you, but it's better for society and human kind in the coming millenia.
smirk_addict 8y ago
You were the first to call that dude out on that post. "I was trying to wife strippers and drug heads..BUT AWALT!!"
NeedingAdvice86 8y ago
Top comment on TRP in a while...but it will not get thru the more fanatical because it is easier to blame\shit on women rather than come to terms with their own shitty value\behavior.
Like the mental this week who ranted on and on about his ex who AWALT\cheated\blah, blah, blah before coming clean in later post that he was lazy fat fuck who played video games all the time, didn't like to go out, had trouble keeping a job and from his post you could see he was a shit of a BF and partner who wasn't interested in the girl, her life or her emotions...his last line of defense was that she was free to leave at any time...which she did which was what set him off in the first place.
ozaku7 8y ago
Exactly this! And this is why I often mention that we do not see who OP is. We do not know him personally, we weren't there to observe what REALLY happened. Even if what that mental has written the truth, it still might be only 10% of their situation what made her leave eventually.
WE DON'T KNOW OP, so how the fuck are we supposed to take such posts even seriously? It's because of shit like this that men start to believe that women are cheating whores no matter how good the guy is, while they are self-absorbed pieces of shit who don't deserve anyone in their lives simply for who they are. Lazy self-absorbed goobers who only want to play videogames, can't hold a job, and just want a girlfriend because she has tits and a vagina to bang once in a while and cleans his doritos and lets him shit in a bucket so he can play WoW uninterrupted. The definition of a loser who magically found someone of the opposite gender, which is the true glitch of the matrix, that red woman in the dress showing up in his reality, a big mistake that isn't ever supposed to happen.
smirk_addict 8y ago
Exactly. Didn’t he even say something about how he refused to help her if she had car troubles? He had no drive in life and treated her like shit because he believed it would keep her wanting him. Two top posts by two pathetic ass men.
elogie423 8y ago
"But to put it blunt, you're the one who let a shitty person into your life and let them do shitty things to you."
This right here is helping me get over my mistakes. When you take ownership of the responsibility of who you allow to fuck with you, it is much easier to say "hey I fucked up and shitty shit happened, but now I know," as opposed to bemoaning the world for being unfair and placing you in these situations. It's a matter of agency, do you want to see your path in life as a trek up a mountain, or would you rather be swept away down a river clinging to whatever you can find along the way? Sure you may trek your way to an impasse, but you can always readjust your trajectory when you understand that you're in control.
Good post. AWALT should be a motivator to always be on your best game when dealing with the opposite sex, not some crybaby excuse for when you slip up in one way or another and nature takes you for a fucking ride in the form of a woman behaving like they are supposed to.
Ivetakenthepill 8y ago
Other thing to keep in mind here is AWALT doesn't just apply to shitty girls, it applies to all girls, some of which can be wonderful for a short period of time.
I have mostly positive things to say about my ex. It was a wonderful learning experience in that she was really top-notch, everything you could ask for in an LTR for the first 7 months, and it was shocking to see her shift when I broke frame, hypergamy kicks in and suddenly it's a different person. I could even tell that she didn't want to feel that way but it's her nature and she couldn't help it.
That all being said, your post speaks the truth. I'm very happy to be out of the relationship, she was young and I knew it wouldn't last forever, but the ultimate failure of it was my breaking frame over and over and I can't blame her for hypergamy taking control.
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
And this happened to most men largely because of a world that rams down the message of Women Are Wonderful down our throats from birth.
We're shamed for our (correct) instincts in a way that women are not. We get the "be good to women" from birth from our mothers, sisters, and all the media - much of it subliminal. How many women die in the average film? How many women?
It's not just the man that's at fault here. Men are misled from birth. There's some blame to be put in other places than men's shoulders for once.
TheRedPillMonkey 8y ago
AWALT is both one of the hardest truths, and laziest excuses in trp. I see it way too much as a excuse for personal responsibility. "I did all I could, but AWALT!"
AWALT is real. Indeed, all women are in fact like "that". But now that you're armed with that knowledge, how are you going to act? Maybe she branch swung because you dropped your smv? Because you caught oneitis? Because you didn't vet her properly. Maybe you didn't understand the situation you were in, the bad moves you made, the feels that got in the way of the pill, and she did what any woman would do.
Don't blame her. Blame yourself. Improve yourself. Learn from the situation. If AWALT means all women are like that, then as a man, you need to understand it and use it to your advantage, not whine when it works against you.
DropDeadTyrant 8y ago
I had that moment last year during school. I had this girl giving me all the IOIs. But, by being my own socially awkward self, I was somehow using every redpill shit in the book. I would straight up ignore her to talk to my better friends. If she started talking to me, I wouldnt look up from my schoolwork to respond. One day, she was staring at me and when I asked her why, she says, "Maybe I want you to look at me". To which, socially awkward me, replied, "Maybe you should have something to say then". Anyway, I realized halfway through the year these were all signs that she liked me. When I did, i tried to not be awkward and pursue her. Doing all types of beta shit, come prom week, she was going to prom with some senior. Didn't know or care about the details of that. But, ever since, I use it as my guide of "what not to do" with girls. Everything I did with her has resurfaced with other girls. It allows me to say, "Oh shit, it's happening again, dont do what you did last time".
RcktDoctor 8y ago
I thought the Heart of Darkness was a warning from a guy on a boat in Africa about not starting a war in Vietnam using helicopters because the colonial French just want to grow bananas. I guess I'm confused...
kiwifx 8y ago
Agreed.. dealing with most women today is much worse than starting a war.
smirk_addict 8y ago
I'm assuming this was inspired by that shit post a couple of days ago that got over 600 upvotes?
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Nov51605 8y ago
Hmmm, AWALT for me is exactly what it is, nothing more or less. I really don't want to live with women under the same roof at all, and it's not because of being butt hurt or with shitty women. I just don't want to put up with them. The problem for me is that once things get heavy physically, they (rightfully so) want more out of the relationship and to go LTR, which then brings me back to square 1 - AWALT and i don't want to marry them or live with them. It's not because of bitterness, more of being happier not married and living together
Red90210 8y ago
Totally spot on post. We can learn from AWALT to not be mad at our Unicorn when she does exactly what would be expected of her in a given situation. Then we learn from it - how can we change so the situation doesn’t occur. Example, getting complacent in LTR and forgetting to follow up. Allowing SMV to fall and losing focus on your dreams.
tropzumuch 8y ago
I slowly get the feel that TRP is the feminism of the average incelcuck. This post is not bad, but it confirms my theory.
Feminism is the average ugly girl that wants to change something to feel better herself. The result is she cries about everything and that the other are at fault.
Now after reading this post you can see clearly similaries.
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RedPill_Swinger 8y ago
Thanks for contributing to more hypoagency OP.
AWALT is AWALT because AWALT.
it's not men taking accountability for whorish behaviour, alimony rape, branch swinging and the like.
Sure, you need to improve yourself and all still women are accountable for their shit, which happens to be a higher-than-the-K2 mountain.
It's a trend lately in TRP to advocate for an endlessly internal locus of control. It's irrealistic. TRP is supposed to be amoral and speak the unfiltered truth, and some unfiltered Truths are: AWALT, cheating, branch swinging.
I repeat, should we settle for a sub-optimal self because AWALT? NO. Anyone should live up to his full potential, let's just not stop describing the truth as it should be.
zangatti 8y ago
Yeah bro 95% of women are garbage. It's your fault if you can't get them to behave themselves, and furthermore your fault if you don't have a soul scanner built in that can foresee whether you have a 5% woman or a 95% woman.
Throwaway12351515 8y ago
If you can't see the difference between a Crackwhore and a girl who's actively Religious and raised in a good family, that's your own fault. That's an extreme example but you get my point. Your quality of life is your #1 priority and filtering shitty people out should be a part of that priority. Peace
zangatti 8y ago
Yes, that's an extreme example indeed! Your point is entirely lost on me because... What about my last girlfriend? Responsible, studied hard. Gorgeous college girl. Was going to go back to her home town as a drug abuse therapist since she grew up in the heroine capital of the country and try to fix things, respected me and my possessions, was really good with animals, was raised under still-married parents and Catholic....
Turned out she was a gangbang slut that liked accusing people of rape and almost got me to kill a guy over what turned out to be false accusations.
Do you have any special glasses that can see what peoples' souls are really like before learning the hard way? Or is TRP just another place where bluepillers hang out and talk about how glorious it will be to find the evasive "good woman"?
Twentyfivedeep 8y ago
This is one of the most extreme examples of projection I've ever seen. I'd suggest becoming familiar with statistical outliers because your experience is one.
Throwaway12351515 8y ago
It seems like you went through a seriously traumatic experience, and like I said, I sympathize with that bro. But it seems like you got caught up in some kind've Cluster B shit storm. In this scenario you really can't blame yourself and in your case my original post doesn't really apply.