I just got out of an LTR a few weeks ago and I have been reading TRP for a few months. No contact with the ex after a minor slip up when her mother passed away a week after we broke up. Feeling good, lifting, etc.
I decided to get on Tinder at work and see what I could do. What I have noticed so far is, immediately setting a date is the most effective thing you can do. I may say, "hey, you're cute let's get a drink sometime" or I may wait until the second or third response. It seems that the quicker I pull the trigger, the more excited and receptive they are. It also helps to weed out the validation seekers.
So I made a date with this HB 6 within three messages and set out to meet her a couple hours later at a bar. I walked in confidentiality and gave her a hug, then we ordered a beer. What she ordered sounded good, so I got one as well for a good conversation starter. I asked interesting questions. I touched her arm and laughed when she said something funny. I teased her about being a nerd. She is a math teacher and loves statistics so I had a hard time relating and I honestly wasn't feeling a great vibe yet. When the bar tender asked us if we wanted another beer, I decided to see how she responded and I told him "no, bring us our checks." She seemed a little taken aback. I told her I was heading to another bar around the corner if she wanted to come with me.
At bar number two, she grabbed a table and sat her purse down in the chair next to her. Looking back, I should have picked it up and taken that chair as it killed my chances for kino.
Mistake number one: I missed an opportunity to show dominance and escalate kino.
Still, I could tell by the flow of the conversation and the look in her eyes that I was connecting better this time. Before we knew it, they started closing the bar and we had to leave. I really should have taken her to one more place, but I didn't know of any other spots near by. We were in her city, I just work there and live 30 minutes away.
Mistake number two: I failed to have my logistics hammered out. I planned the first two bars but left room for error after that. I thought I could get her to invite me back after two stops, but the lack of kino at bar number two really hurt my chances.
I walked her to her car and told her to drive me to mine. When we got to the parking deck she said, "I guess I'll let you out here so I don't have to pay to enter. I had a good time!" I gave her the look for a few seconds, then I went for the kiss. I made out with her for like a minute then I playfully stopped and got out of the car. She said, "I had a good time!" again. I told her I had a blast and just walked off confidently. I thought I was doing the right thing by trying not to come off as thirsty or needy.
Mistake number three: I fucked up so hard not telling her to pull in to the parking deck and fucking her brains out in her brand new car. At the very least I should have said we could go back to her place and keep having a good time. If she said no, then and only then should I have played it like it was no big deal. I let so many opportunities to close just slip through my grasp.
She messaged me the next day and said, "I had fun last night! The Bill Withers Pandora station you put on my phone is great." When we were are bar number two, she had mentioned how she liked cooking dinner with a "hot guy" while she was giving me the fuck eyes so I thought I was being smooth when I messaged back a few hours later saying, "I had fun too. Let me know next time you want to get together and I'll bring a bottle of wine over, and we can make dinner together" and then sent her my number. She deleted our convo and I haven't heard from her.
Mistake number four: I should have been more mysterious and waited until later that night, then responded by saying, "I had fun too. Give me your number and we'll do it again sometime." But, I was a dumb ass and spoiled the chase for her.
Rip me to shreds. I want it to hurt so I will do better next time.
TLDR: Recently broke up with LTR. Got first Tinder date. Kiss closed, but fucked up too many times. Set dates immediately on Tinder. Having half of your logistics work done doesn't count for shit. Show dominance and guarantee your opportunity for kino. Assume the close, don't be deterred by small obstacles. Let her chase, she doesn't want to feel like things are just handed to her.

itsawomensworld 8y ago
A girl will always respond negatively to you inviting yourself over without ever being there before. Girls hate this and feel like you're using them and think they are a slut.
Girls also hate early on when you ask what they are up to. Girls hate forward looking questions. It gets them anxious and then they associate you with bad things.
RedPillgrim 8y ago
trp isn't a fuqn diary. everything of 'value' in this post can be found in the sidebar or top posts. bring something new to the table or don't bring anything.
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Self-honest 8y ago
Haha ok dude. I'll quit writing field reports until I fuck 5 chicks at the same time. A diary is for keeping your thoughts to yourself. My story wasn't new, but it served it's purpose regardless of your opinion.
The real value I got was from the comments. A few people had insightful things to say and I'm not the only one who got to read them. It started dialogue that brought up the broken stoplight analogy (maintaining a grasp on your authentic self while first digesting and applying red pill knowledge to avoid appearing inconsistent), texting like you have two gorgeous women in your bed (squashing any thirsty or needy sounding messages while you build true abundance), and plenty of other solid advice from men who are here to collaborate and grow.
It doesn't really matter what I think, but I clearly disagree with you. Have a good one man.
BlueBlus 8y ago
Thanks for your FR. Ignore the other dude
DenyHerYourEssence 8y ago
Texting your ex a week after your break up to offer condolences isn't a slip up, and isn't something that makes you a simp. It just means you are a decent person.
Good FR. I would say you are just worrying too much about her reactions, and not embracing IDGAF attitude (and abundance mentality.) Everybody makes mistakes, just don't display weakness to her after making them. Also, remember this old tip about texting: when you text a woman, adopt a mindset when you are texting as if you are in bed lying next to two gorgeous women. Instant cure for thirst and rambling/needy text messages.
m0rphing 8y ago
That tip is the bomb. When's the last time anyone took the time to type out a long emotional text when a 9 was licking their balls.
Self-honest 8y ago
Good point, I was definitely keying on her reactions too much. That texting advice is on point man. I will use that from now on.
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I thought the same damned thing.
Boshackalaka 8y ago
You can't get them all. I have the same issue where I don't want to be too "forceful". It is a balance, but from my limited experience at least I have more success when I err on the side of boldness, but it's never a sure thing. It's like a rope; too much slack and you will get tangled up, too tight and the rope will snap.
Anyways decent FR, and better luck next time.
Self-honest 8y ago
Thanks man. You're right about boldness. Fortune favors the brave.
m0rphing 8y ago
Hey dude I don't think you did all that bad. The girl had fun and was probably receptive to fucking you. Even though you didn't pull the trigger, that's still an accomplishment. Some guys struggle to get a girl attracted at all. A few more experiences like that and I bet you'll end up getting the lay.
My question for you is kind of a deep one: are you treating this whole dating thing as a game where you have to make the right moves in order to fuck the girl, or are you treating it as your life in which you want to maximize your own fun and pleasure? There is a subtle difference between the two.
Sometimes we get so caught up in playing the game that we don't pay attention to what is in front of us: a fuckable woman who is giving you physical signals that she's down to fuck. When you stop thinking so much and you start paying attention you'll probably find yourself fucking girls in strange places and not having to worry about logistics.
Nobody is perfect though, so I'm not putting you down. Just giving some tips.
Self-honest 8y ago
Thanks so much man. TRP is a large pill to swallow. It's exciting to be applying these tools on someone other than the previous LTR.
It seems like every two minutes or so, one of these chicks says something that reminds me of something I read here and I'm caught thinking too much. I need to trust my instincts more and ease back on all the red pill affirmations. I have definitely been getting hung up on making the right moves and I should absolutely have the mindset of maximizing my own fun and pleasure. Its like I'm re-calibrating my instincts on the fly. It's going to be awesome when I get it balanced out though.
Peter_B_Long 8y ago
Personally don't have a Tinder (yet), but from what I've learned here on TRP, you want to be more aggressive and bold with Tinder chicks.
Self-honest 8y ago
Yeah I think you're right. I matched with a girl who lives like 20 mins away from a city I'll be in for a wedding this weekend. HB6-8 depending on how much she looks like her pictures. Definitely looks like she would be fun to fuck.
I told her I'll be in that town Friday night and I want to meet her cute ass for a drink. She just messaged me back three days later with her phone number. Possible field report to follow. I'll continue to be more bold see what kind of trouble I can get into. Either way I'll be approaching a lot of chicks at that wedding the next day so, abundance.
Peter_B_Long 8y ago
Great mindset and good luck.
morexel 8y ago
Only real mistake was putting the onus of the next meeting on her. Let me know is how you break up.
Next time just tell her, let's get a drink together Saturday. Or ask logistical questions.
Self-honest 8y ago
Fuck. You're 100% correct. Great point man.
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Not a bad go at it man. Don't treat it like a formula and just have fun with it.
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Self-honest 8y ago
Very thoughtful advice man. I am 100% sure I have lost hold of my authentic self during this learning process. When I think about my actions objectively I recognize the inconsistencies you're talking about. I think the broken traffic light analogy is perfect way to explain it. Thanks for your time. Your comment really helped put things into perspective for me.
Buncha_Cunts 8y ago
Honestly, she could already be "seeing someone" and still dating on Tinder on the side to keep her options open. Could just as easily explain the deleted convo and the not hearing back.
Self-honest 8y ago
Valid point. I still needed to give a better response, but you never know what other variables are in play. For reference, the message was there for like 4 days with no response before it disappeared. I thought she was just testing me by not responding because she wanted the D. I was pretty direct about my intentions, even under the context of "cooking dinner."
[deleted] 8y ago
I'm trying Tinder now....doesn't sound like you did all that poorly.
Don't worry about same day lays, unless that's really your thing. Better to have a lower key first date, hug close, avoid all ASD, then your idea about dinner & wine is fucking perfect.
Also, bang on about hitting them up essentially right away. If they need a Comfort Bombardment they'll let you know, and if they ghost you you stood no chance.
Misread your post the first time....still think you did well.
Also, I used photofeeler for pics. I have some top 20% pics that I thought wouldn't be, and pics I thought would cut the mustard but didn't. My opinion doesn't matter.
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Photofeeler is interesting you never know what people will like.
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Guthix4Days 8y ago
It's not just that.
Tinder is a validation machine that girls use to feel good about themselves. It really inflates their ego to absurd levels where you have hb7s acting like Cleopatra of Egypt simply because they receives hundreds of matches every day. Don't use any dating apps my dude, your chances of getting laid are better if you hit on a girl in your class or just cold approach in pubic.
Self-honest 8y ago
Yeah I definitely get that. Will be approaching in public every chance I get. Just figured it wouldn't hurt to fuck around on dating apps during down time at work.
schwiz 8y ago
Lol literally just happened to me.
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schwiz 8y ago
Lol had to excuse myself to the bathroom and double check the picture thought I was completely catfished.
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