Every time I go to the gym, I see them. Constituting about 95% of gym-goers, people that half-ass their workout. They sit on the leg extension machine, put the pin one fourth of the way down, and proceed to lazily crank out 15 or so reps while awkwardly looking around the gym (avoiding eye contact, of course), checking the time on their smartphone or staring at some chick's ass. When they are done, they get off the machine, start looking at the floor for a minute or so before performing a few more half-assed sets and going home. I sometimes like looking at them straight in the eye in the middle of their set and seeing them avert their gaze faster than they would take their hand off a burning stove. These people are wasting their time. They are going to the gym because they want social acceptance, self confidence and big muscles just like me. But they are doing it wrong.
Others spend lots of time and mental energy switching up programs, changing up rep and set schemes, trying out all manner of different techniques in order to maximize their gains. They browse bodybuilding sites and forums looking for the perfect lifting program and the one unorthodox exercise that will make their biceps double in size overnight. Upon finally finding it after hours of searching, they get the same satisfaction as that of witnessing gains in the mirror, because to them, having gained that knowledge amounts to progress in the gym. They never realize that what matters is not perfection, but effort. They, too, are doing it wrong.
In my experience, muscle growth is not a technical or complicated endeavor. Here is literally everything you need to know about gaining muscle:
- Calculate your TDEE online, then eat 300-500 calories above that daily.
- Eat your bodyweight in grams of protein daily.
- Train each muscle at least once a week, 2-4 exercises, each for 3-5 sets of 6-20 reps.
- Sleep for at least 6 hours daily.
That's it. That took two minutes to write out and much less to read, yet it is all the knowledge you need to acquire a better physique than 99% of the population and even 80% of natty lifters. Add steroids to the mix and a dash of lucky genetics and you have a world-class physique. Does that sound too good to be true? Take a look at a training session of Dorian Yates^1 on youtube. That's more or less what he did and he became one of the most muscular men who ever lived, and a six-time Mr. Olympia. If his bare-bones workouts got him to 260lbs. shredded to the bone, then you can become the biggest guy everywhere you go as well.
But wait a minute, you say. If gaining muscle is really that easy, then why don't we see behemoths like Yates walking around in the street more often? Surely there are thousands of gym-goers with good genetics that take steroids out there. Why is it that when I go to the gym for a year trying a hundred different techniques I barely grow, but Tom Platz can become a fucking centaur by mostly just squatting?
It's simple. It's due to the magical x-factor of lifting. Are you ready to lay your eyes upon it? The answer is...
FUCKING EFFORT.
When was the last time you went to failure at the gym? Really think before you answer. When was the last time you felt like you'd rather kill yourself than do another rep, and then did another anyway? When was the last time you went this hard during a set? I'm willing to bet that the honest answer for 90% of you will be "never".
Whenever I go to the gym, I cannot have a bad workout. Because the only way to have a bad workout is to know that I could have given more and I didn't. And that knowledge will always ruin my day, because it means that I'm still a pussy. I can't leave the gym a pussy. I can't leave the gym before I legitimately feel like screaming or crying or puking at least three times during my workout. I don't even really care about muscle growth in that moment. I know that these moments, where the only thing there is in the world is pain, are some of the best tests of my manhood that I can get. And they are tests that I refuse to fail.
So how many of you actually work out this hard? Because you need to know, if you don't put in that kind of work, you shouldn't expect to get that kind of results.
Peace.
Edit: The amount of butthurt that this post generated simply proves my point.
^1 I highly recommend watching Dorian's interviews on London Reel. The guy is a goldmine of Red Pill life advice.

Andgelyo 8y ago
Man, this is bullshit. You do not need to exert 115% of energy every single time you go to the gym. Not only does grunting and moaning like a constipated jack off make you look annoying, it makes you look like an insecure attention seeking prick in the gym as well. The key to building a great body is consistency and discipline. You take a fat ass who has never stepped foot in the gym to exercise 3-5x a week with at least 80 percent exertion and cut down some calories I guarantee you would see amazing results in a year. There's no need to overwork yourself to hell and pop a vein in your head from yelling while lifting weights.
Zenitco 8y ago
I think a lot of newbies don't understand intensity. Like how hard a rep should be and what not. That's one reason why you see a lot of these guys at the gym.
minimalistvagabond 8y ago
I don't want to get that big, not my thing. I work out pretty hard, though. Mainly because it's healthy and I enjoy it. I'm 5'11, and 158, and extremely cut. I work out 5-6 days a week, usually 3 hours a day, in addition to walking about 5 miles a day over my workouts.
According to that TDEE, my calories needed per day is 2700.
TheRedManFromRussia 8y ago
Well the answer to your condescending question is that not everyone takes the same amount of steroids as those people.
But otherwise this is useless, your whole rant can be summed up as work harder at the gym, which is common sense
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VargVikernesMatchbox 8y ago
Tren and ice cream brah, you can play Tekken 24 hours a day, only stopping to pin tren ace and partake of Ben + Jerrys, and get to 6-7% bodyfat with capped delts and striated quads. You'll walk upstairs to bed and gain 5lbs of lean mass. Complete troll but in all seriousness, blasting and cruising on low doses of test can really make this process a lot more fun, even more so if you don't care about having children, just keep some arimidex handy in case of gyno. Lifting natty takes 5 years to look better than 99% of non lifters, but being on gear will get you some worshippers if you do it correctly. The aesthetic aspect is only part of it, the feeling of being on high test is sublime.
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This guy is trying to motivate himself larping as his arch-nemesis Alpha Man.
briskestbrisket 8y ago
There is a time and place for reps to failure. But if you go to failure on every set of every exercise, you tax the muscle beyond what is necessary to stimulate growth. The cold honest truth is you can stay on a somewhat mediocre workout program and still look amazing if your diet is on point over a lengthy span of time.
Good enthusiasm, though. I remember my first double scoop of preworkout.
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scottlapier 8y ago
It's all about consistency. If you can set up a system that's covering all the bases in the gym, a schedule you can follow week in and week out and you're dedicated enough to eat super clean you'll look great.
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I've noticed it's the maintenance that makes or breaks a good workout~~~~
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It isn't just the muscle... When you go to failure you start incorporating the minor muscle groups a lot more, your tendons get stressed more, and it taxes your central nervous system. It's a great way to cause serious injury while providing negative benefit because all subsequent sets are going to be worse.
briskestbrisket 8y ago
For a working set, I utilize anywhere from 70-80% of my 1 rep max of a given movement for 8-12 strict reps, assuming I would lose strict form on any following reps. That programming creates more than enough stimulus for growth. Anything past that is quite literally self harm. And like you said, poor form puts your risk for injury through the roof.
ViktorCage 8y ago
"I can't leave the gym a pussy. I can't leave the gym before I legitimately feel like screaming or crying or puking at least three times during my workout. I don't even really care about muscle growth in that moment. I know that these moments, where the only thing there is in the world is pain, are some of the best tests of my manhood that I can get. And they are tests that I refuse to fail."
on a scale of 1-10 of pussiness, you are 20
pentakiller19 8y ago
Are we looking down on self-improvement now? Boy, this sub has turned to shit. 90% of people dont go to the gym because they are lazy, fat, depressed pieces of shit. The few that do, you want to belittle them? No, go fuck yourself.
blueparka43 8y ago
This sub is complete garbage now
WolfofAnarchy 8y ago
NO IT HASN'T. This post is highly controversial, barely upvoted and the top comment with over 130 points is calling the OP out.
pentakiller19 8y ago
This post was highly upvoted before it was called out.
WolfofAnarchy 8y ago
So? The community has given this mostly negative response as a whole.
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Been going to the gym for 3 and a half years straight, this guys advice is pretty retarded.
Going to failure every set? That's a good way to tax your CNS and cause an injury because your form is shit while providing zero benefit because it decreases your capacity for the following sets.
Torabor64 8y ago
Yeah, let's build a fucking statue for everyone who signed to a gym and shows up every other week. Such inmense effort must be recognized.
lancer000 8y ago
You gotta have a weekly workout plan and set each day. And don't forget to celebrate Monday as the official Bench Press Day!
pentakiller19 8y ago
That's not what I'm saying. Self-improvement is one of the core principals of TRP, if you are going to disrespect it or people that do it, gtfo!
ThrowFader 8y ago
He isn't disrespecting self improvement. Read.
Going to the gym and doing jack shit is not self improvement.
If you don't challenge yourself you AREN'T improving.
Don't defend what shouldn't be defended.
You probably are skinny or overweight and will get triggered by the replies but I assure you, you are wrong.
FuckMichaelMcCoy 8y ago
I think people are just disappointed that hes trying to stare down and intimidate people trying to improve themselves.. other then that they dont have an issue with the rest of the post.
pentakiller19 8y ago
He's crying because people aren't working out to a degree which he deems fit. Who the hell is he to judge? Everything about this is asinine.
Torabor64 8y ago
You are the one disrespecting lifting by implying that it is okay to go to the gym to waste time. How what I said can be interpreted as disrespecting is something I can't understand.
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Or maybe help a brother out. Apparently you are a lifting genius that did everything right from day one?
Torabor64 8y ago
Sure, how may I help you? I'm not going to pat on your back tho if that's what you want.
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Fetch me some protein bars and some vitamin water every 30 minutes and we're good pal, don't worry.
greatslyfer 8y ago
This has to be a troll designed to make this sub look like a joke.
WolfofAnarchy 8y ago
Yes, concern trolls. I suspect there are plenty.
fapnlikacraaazy 8y ago
I understand where you're coming from but overall you sound a bit pretentious. Yes, you pity those who don't put out but blatantly staring them down in order to intimidate them is a bit much, at the gym worry about yourself.
ScoutEU 8y ago
As someone who lifts, there are many, many programmes... Not saying that no one is half-assing their workouts, but a lot of programmes incorporate deloads, or a workout that escalates during the week or one week hard, one week softer.
If you go all ham every time, you're going to injure yourself; and as someone coming back from a pulled back muscle, it doesn't half hinder your workout when you are recovering..... So by all means work out hard, but be careful!
Abdiel01 8y ago
He went so hard he can no longer experience an erection!
PaddingtonBear888 8y ago
A novice should not " go hard". He should pick up a damn barbell and squat/bench/press/deadlift with proper form 3x a week, for three sets of five. Add 5 lbs to each lift until you can't anymore. It doesn't take rocket appliances.
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herrrro 8y ago
People don't want to hear it but I agree with OP 100 %
I was a college track runner and I've always liked lifting weights, I had a friend on roids who was the same size I was and he would say I have sick genetics but the truth was I've busted my ass so much more than he ever did. I've thrown up so many times in my life from pushing myself that if I don't get close to that than something feels like it's missing
Lift a muscle group heavy for 3-5 sets of about 5 reps with your heaviest set going to failure
Lift the the same muscle group to failure with what I call middle weight where you fail at 8-10 reps each set for 3-5 sets
If you want abs have an ab day instead of a rest day and run, people say I run but I just can't get this weight off! I laugh because they dont bring the pain
There's two ways to run that will change your body completely
The first is the one nobody believes, but this is what I call the nervous system shock. If using a tread mill turn run two minutes at a pace that's manageable let's say 6.5 mph. Each workout go up .01 or .02 mph, it will be easy at first but when you get in some serious shape you'll be topping out the treadmill between 14-15 mph that's about a 2:15 pace or so 800(half mile) which is going to be changing your metabolism and shocking your nervous system but you'll start getting the runners high and loving it
The second is a little more traditional but same concept, run distance 1-3 miles a few times a week lets say 3 times. Start off at a reasonable pace maybe 10 minute miles, it really doesn't matter because as you progress you have to bring the effort. Each time you run pick up the pace by 2-5 seconds for your mile time, by the time your running under 7 minute mile pace your body will be getting shredded
If you want a little more muscle run a little less but still run with high intensity and follow the treadmill workout
If you want to be more lean do the second running workout
If you want abs you have to run! My abs workouts are intense too, toes to bar with a 5-10 lb dumbbell between my feet, windshield wipers, heavy mason twist to v-up superset, ropes and heavy side ups
Most the time the only people I see doing hard ab workouts are swoll shredded black dudes and my white ass
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I like how you brought progressive overload into running. Good luck pursuing your goals!
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mental_models 8y ago
The lifting list is actually good general advice. Consistently bringing intensity to the gym is generally good advice, provided you mind your recovery.
If his TRP-caricature persona was a comedy I'd be LMAO. I can picture some guy working out, and Will Ferrell walks up and stares dead into his eyes on some alpha-dog shit.
FuckMichaelMcCoy 8y ago
Ive literally had a fucking insecure old gym rat do it to me mid set. He was obviously roided up and had shitty facial genetics, and was clearly insecure like OP where he had to prove his dominance. This fucker was 5'5'' 50 something years old, bald albeit muscular (but not aesthetic), he looked like a jealous gnome.
dongpal 8y ago
lmao. gain goblin looked at you
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This guy is trying to motivate himself larping as his arch-nemesis Alpha Man.
cashmoney_x 8y ago
Oh lord, you trying to destroy people's joints, ligaments and overtax their central nervous systems?
norcalguy510 8y ago
Good shit man, forget all these other guys who are missing the point.
This is the mindset to have when lifting, this is a winners mindset, i love it.
[deleted] 8y ago
Good on you for understanding. Whiny bitches have infested this forum like a disease. It's only a matter of time before TRP becomes the next seddit, and that makes me very very sad.
DoctorGorb 8y ago
Lol big muscles just like me... omg you are the worsstttttt
aasman1 8y ago
This is dumb. Training is a controlled system.
If you're training to failure every set you're doing it wrong.
Lifting is not about ego or making yourself sore. It's aboi a steady progression over a long period of time.
Double your bicep size? This sounds way too troll-like.
The strongest and most aesthetic dude I know browses his phone between sets. When he lifts he focusses. Is he doing it wrong?
The reality is that there are no overnight solutions. There are no shortcuts. People who have been in the gym longest know that it's not about burning your body out every workout. It's about the long game. It's about never missing a workout or getting lazy.
LordThunderbolt 8y ago
I don't know man. I've been maxing out on all my lifts every time in the gym for over 2 years now. I do full body workouts too. I've doubled my size and strength. The big mistake you guys make is not eating enough.
blueparka43 8y ago
You've doubled your size???? What the fuck did you go from like 100 to 200 or something???
LordThunderbolt 8y ago
Lol figure of speech ????
I went from 160lbs to 230lbs. Physically I'm so much bigger than I was before. When people I haven't seen in years see me they literally start laughing because they cant believe the transformation.
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aasman1 8y ago
Nothing sexy about it except for the results.
Cesare_MA 8y ago
Yeah I understand the sentiment behind the post but who tf is on the verge of puking 3 times every workout? That is not normal. Putting in effort in the gym is not the same as wanting to kill yourself every workout.
Urishima 8y ago
I would bet that at that point, your form would suffer as well. But hey, nothing like a herniated disk by the time you hit your thirties, right?
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Yep, agree with everything you're saying. Training to failure is retarded like OP.
Just be consistent, work hard at it, and have a good system. You'll either see progress or you have no testosterone like a woman and you need to hop on gear.
aasman1 8y ago
Training to failure has a time and place. People have to remember why we lift in the first place. We do it because we enjoy the process and because we desire the result.
If you involve your ego and do it as a way to prove your manliness, you do exactly the opposite.
Men have goals. Strive to achieve those goals. Don't strive to stare people down at the gym you perceive as less alpha then you. You are only projecting your insecurities.
ThrowFader 8y ago
You MISSED the fucking point assman. You missed it.
YOU GOTTA FUCKING WANT THE W. You think buff guys sit on their ass and get gains? NO.
You think football players half ass it and beat the other team in a blowout?
FUCK NO.
EFFORT IS KEY.
STOP FUCKING HAMSTERING AND GO OUT THEIR AND WIN!
Who gives a single shit whether or "It's aboi a steady progression over a long period of time."
The point is that some of us NEED this FUCKING WAKE UP CALL!
WE ARE FUCKING MEN.
WE DONT WHINE.
Now go win bro.
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Throwaway903188 8y ago
Damn bro chill out with the ego boosting hype. This is a dumb post, consistency of even mediocre gym sessions is better than going home sore every day. There is no evidence to prove that overworking your muscles makes them grow back faster, any burn is good burn over a long period of time.
ThrowFader 8y ago
I never once said we should overwork our muscles. We shouldn't.
Most men do not even sniff a gym, and consequently are not anywhere near overworking anything.
I'm not addressing people who know what they are doing.
blueparka43 8y ago
How can I be at your level of awesomeness
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mattisb 8y ago
I think I've seen you at the gym now that I think of it. You were bouncing around the gym on your knuckles, swinging on the equipment and beating your chest to intimidate other males. I thought they kicked you out for shitting in the corner and not picking up your sweet potato leaves?
FuckMichaelMcCoy 8y ago
What a fucking douchebag OP is. Literally trying to AMOG people trying to improve themselves and intimidate them from going back to the gym. Ive seen plenty of people like OP in my gym days (I got 4-5 times a week my whole life) and hes the insecure half-way alpha that needs to prove himself. Walking around with hands on his hips and staring people down lmfao.
mental_models 8y ago
last time someone AMOG'd me in the middle of my set, I grunted each rep of a never-ending-to-zero-drop-set so loud that Planet Fitness had to call in the S.W.A.T. team.
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FuckMichaelMcCoy 8y ago
Seriously, who the fuck wants to make romantic or hostile eye contact with a phaggot while theyre pumping out a set? Its all about fucking context when it comes to body language.
Urishima 8y ago
It's like you are standing at the loo and the guy next to you looks you straight in the eye without blinking the whole time.
Not cool, bro.
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OP is on gear, and the links he posted is to people on gear.
Anybody who is on gear does not get to give gym advice.
arctane 8y ago
Bullshit. Some of us have legit reasons to be on cycle ...natural low test levels inhibiting gains being one. After the age of 30...men go slowly into andropause...TRT should be provided to all men.
Some of the biggest gear heads are also the most knowledgable....you dont get big from cycling alone... You get big from dedicated training, diet and rest.
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TRT is medicine.
DBOL and TREN are GEAR.
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LordThunderbolt 8y ago
Nowadays people jump on gear within 6 months of their first lifts. Its a bunch of get swole quick guys out there.
Cesare_MA 8y ago
That's not true. Most people who are on gear were bigger than you and me when they first hopped on. Steroids is not a "get swole quick" miracle drug for DYELs; it's supposed to take you to that next level when you've neared or reached your natural peak.
thelaptopliquidator 8y ago
It's amazing how many people believe this shit man
LordThunderbolt 8y ago
He's right. When you have elevated hormone levels from roids it's a whole different ball game.
SpaceTimeinFlux 8y ago
Juicers are cheaters. Plain and fucking simple.
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Deoends on priorities. As a uni student I could afford to go the gym fir 2 hours while being at a 500 calorie deficit. Now that I'm working full time ny body can't cope with the stress of having a mentally challenging job. Yet I still want to go the gym. I find a balance of progress vs sustainability.
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memphisjohn 8y ago
At the risk of oversimplifying... OP is right. The vast majority of people I see at the gym are half assing.
The % is higher on the cardio and the machines, lower on the free weights. But still it's a majority.
No, you don't have to explode your eyeballs on every rep or set. No, you don't have to get near-rhabdo every day.
Don't be autistic. Learn the core lesson and apply it.
Are you really working hard enough? Probably not.
Here's the cool part: it's an easy assertion to test. Try it yourself for a few workouts.
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thelaptopliquidator 8y ago
You either want the results, or you don't.
Personally, I feel you. It feels disrespectful, to the gym. It's a place of worship, a temple, that they come and desecrate.
I view your sloth as sacrilege.
nazis_are_socialists 8y ago
If you're nauseated or puking during your workout, you're over-training. Seriously, chill on the roids.
reydemierde 8y ago
Lol. You think doing each muscle group once a week, 2-4 exercises, 6-20 reps is putting in effort? And you think this will build a world class physique? Consistency is the key to gains. Pick a proven program like n-suns or candito, and just be consistent with it. Follow the progression and be consistent and you will improve. Also, if you want hypertrophy you need to be hitting each muscle group twice a week. Once a week isn't going to really do shit.
e-mess 8y ago
A workout is satisfying when you're barely able to crawl out of the gym.
What I can't do is keeping up with such regime for more than a couple of months. I lift during winters but I drop all of it once the cycling season begins.
This is another autumn when I realize that all my last year gainz are lost. Fortunately, the results of cycling competitions are better each year.
-MAurelius- 8y ago
Every 6 to 8 weeks take 1 to 2 weeks off
sherrif_taylor 8y ago
I think it is extremely important to go to the gym with goals. I think most people do not get results at the gym because they do not set concrete goals. Goals are important.
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NitricTV 8y ago
Exact reason why I no longer rep til failure anymore. I go home limp AND with less muscle in the end of it all.
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That might be because of frequency and volume. It's really hard to lift heavy weights 6 times a week.
Lifting heavy weights 3 times a week gives the best results in my opinion. You don't have to go till failure.
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Yep, my pr on bench is 425 and I never go to failure, it gets especially dumber at heavier weights. You wanna have some severe shoulder pain and elbow/wrist tendinitis? That's probably the best way to get it. Always leave one in the tank, otherwise you start sacrificing form.
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This guy is trying to motivate himself larping as his arch-nemesis Alpha Man.
BlueCollarAsshole 8y ago
OP had too much E/C/A today. Every set is to failure!!! You get a failure, and you get a failure, everybody gets a failure!
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You can definitely get buff, but you wont be having as much muscle as you would think, i've been that road. Also getting shredded is not a good idea and very difficult, while being natty, i've been that road also...
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You can achieve much naturally, but having the "tren" look is just another dimension.
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Twentyfivedeep 8y ago
The saying is big, lean and natural, not big, lean and strong. And it's a dumb saying anyway. Unless they mean bodybuilder big and shredded, you can achieve all three. Take a look at guys like Scott Herman and Jeff Cavalier. They're all three, but many guys would call them small cause they have crazy high standards. Don't demoralise people based on standards they probably don't even have.
cashmoney_x 8y ago
This is so dumb. So natty people can get big and lean but not strong?
lancer000 8y ago
Good preaching brother! But bro, I don't workout for biceps or gains... I train in strength and challenge guys in manly activities and sports. And yeah, I do look at people in the gym and ask them questions, so that I can get advice and tips. But, I go for full pressure/strain/motion/pull/depth while working out.