Intro
This is a piece is inspired by several asktrp threads. I write this because I feel as if the mantra of "always escalate" is being misused by readers here. I see this in posts where users are concerned they can't always fuck on the first date and in posts where dudes escalate too quickly and strike the fuck out. While I am not directly challenging "Always escalate", I am suggesting to you that escalation can take other forms. The slow-play is my wheelhouse, and produces great lays. I write this in a FR because I feel it is not explicitly a theoretical post and I will produce a FR that happened not terribly long ago where this was put into action.
What?
Slow-playing is essentially taking your time, when available, to game a broad. What you are doing is using several factors to close the deal. First, it is not controversial that when you are around chicks regularly they become attracted to you (making all the necessary assumptions - attractiveness, frame, etc.). When you are on a girls mind long enough, in their mind this will transform into attraction. Second, you are deliberately building the sexual tension until it fucking explodes. Every time you meet, you build it. You resist giving in yourself because you know how women's minds work - lust, obsession, transience. You exploit this to the point where she cannot possibly hold back or resistance any advance. Disney and the other mass media has been prepping them for this since they were born. Exploit it. Third, girl talk. Her girlfriends can spot sexual tension a mile away. Know in the back of your mind that when there is chemistry, her girlfriends will ask about, "so whats up with you and him". Let them do the work for you.
Why?
There are three primary reasons why this is a good strategy.
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For those of us (many) the satisfaction of gaming girls is in the hunt, this is the sweetest hunt possible. There is nothing more satisfying than gaming a girl after a slow play. I can fuck all the drunk chicks I want in a ONS, but a slow play succeeded is far sweeter than shitty sex with a bar slut high on coke or MDMA. She wants it to happen, and there is no social stigma holding her back.
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A lot of bullshit you normally have to deal with doesn't exist in a slow-play.The biggest of them all being LMR. There is no LMR ever after you've completed a slow play. Resistance has been destroyed. The sex is far better, and easier escalated, and she is totally into it. Remember - movies, television shows, they're all built on sexual tension between the male and female leads. When you deliberately foster that - watch the fuck out.
- It's actually a decent filter for LTRs. In the immortal words of Eminem, "How could I ever trust you? I just met you, and I just fucked you." Girls that won't ONS love a good slow play. Slow playing gives you the time to assess the girl and see how long it takes before she gives in. It also gives you the opportunity to view her from afar without being friendzoned to see how slutty she really is (never friendzone yourself). If you're playing the long con and she jumps into bed with the first Chad she sees, you know the type of girl you're dealing with.
When??
This is crucial. I expect to get resistance from the community because escalating is always good. However, slow-playing has a time and place. This is essentially, any situation where sexual interest is ambiguous (Tinder it is unambiguous, so rule that out) and where you have the fucking time to do it (a club is therefore ruled out). The best situation possible for a slow play is when you meet a girl in the ordinary social way - through friends. I have a pretty wide social circle so you meet girls just casually. The sexual tension is ambiguous (it is unclear if you are meeting as friends or more) and you have time (she ain't going anywhere). For those readers who are just going to college or have to move away for whatever reason, this is a situation for you. You're going to meet new people that could become part of a friend group. You have time to do it. If you're about to go on an exchange in college, read the following FR because it is absolutely ideal for that situation too.
How?
At its most basic, you escalate indirectly. Banter, intense eye contact, amused mastery, flirty talk in general, kino. But, you hold off on closing until you're positive that sexual tension has done its thing. Here is a FR which will be filled with certain lessons:
When I was in undergrad I participated in an exchange to Europe. I knew only two other people going, both dudes on my soccer team. I knew they were solid and it was 20 people in total 10 girls and 10 guys.
Right off the bat, I saw one of these girls doing yoga stretches in her room because I was walking past and she left her door open. I learned she was a yoga instructor, and I instantly targeted her. When me and the guys I know from my team went out for drinks, we discussed which of these girls we were each interested in and I named her. This is an important factor - we were the only half-alphas of the men (the rest total betas) and we knew each other so it was a form of marking territory. Those other two also succeeded in hooking up with their choices, but that's another story. The point is, by marking territory I eliminated any real threat of anyone else posting up thus increasing time.
Within two weeks, we all went to the bar and I ended up making out with yoga girl. The day after it was obvious there was attraction but I was getting resistance. So in the name of slow playing I backed off, and escalated in non-direct ways. Every time we talked it was flirty banter, small amounts of kino, direct intense eye contact, an awful lot of amused mastery. I was holding off, but maintaining an aura of "I want to fuck you, I'm no friendzone bitch, but I'm not going to make a move just yet". This is what I mean by escalation can take several forms. You don't need to go for the close every time. You can just build sexual tension and not make a move through kino, eye contact, witty/flirty banter.
Then, I did what any red-blooded TRP man ought to do in this situation. I started hooking up with a local broad. Again, I didn't calculate this at the time - I was just a horny bastard - but looking back now, I see what happened. This lasted for about two weeks, and she was probably objectively hotter than yoga girl, but not subjectively. This is a win-win situation because if yoga girl was seriously not going to fuck me, that's fine - I'm still fucking a nice plate. But there are three factors at play here - 1) social proof; 2) jealousy; and 3) girl talk. I know for a fact that the other girls on the exchange would ask her, "so what's up with you and ECoast_Man? He's been hooking up with that other girl". This of course would push her jealousy into hyperdrive because I was her territory in the exchange accommodations. Note this doesn't work all the time, but it can be extremely effective when it does, and again it's a win-win.
About two weeks after that we were all playing soccer and we were relaxing having some drinks and me and the other two soccer bros were doing tricks. I walked over next to yoga girl and playfully asked for a beer and grabbed it. She was laying on the ground and I was behind her. She grabbed my hands and wrapped them around her right on her tits. Game on. We went back that night and she gave me head. I'm still "but I wanna get some head" kind of guy, so I don't usually make it an issue to escalate beyond. We then started hooking up every night because she would come to my room. It was her who said, "I think it's time to take it to the next level" after a couple of hookups.
The conclusion to this is, she became obsessed with me all because her female mind made this out to be some sort of Disney fantasy. All because I slow played. Also, she mentioned to me specifically that she found it hard when I was with the other girl because "I had to hear you fucking her". That's a side story which I might talk about another time (fucking other girls to increase jealousy/social proof, but that's been done).
Lessons Learned
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You don't always need to escalate physically to the point of fucking. Escalation means different things. It can mean planting the idea in her mind, letting it grow, and then capitalizing when the mare is rearing and horny. Intense eye contact with amused mastery works amazingly in this regard;
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All of this is contextual. If you have the time, use it. If you don't, you have to escalate quickly like in a club.
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And coming from the FR, abundance mentality. You can see there I employed this and it is a win-win. At worst I was fucking a hot local, at best I was fucking a hot local and setting her up for the girl I wanted to fuck by making jealous.
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Stop thinking you need to escalate to fuck immediately. I even do this with Tinder dates because I like being flirty and setting up for date two or date three. You bypass a lot of bullshit this way when she is into it.
- When you have time, use it

Rollo_Mayhem3 9y ago
I suppose the 'slow-play' has a place in a man's arsenal. I've used it before and concur. I'd say it takes 'advanced game' and a lot creativity. Not for everyone, takes time to develop. But it does beg the question, if you are able to pump and dump immediately why put the time and energy in the slow-play of you are going to spin her anyway, I mean yeah its fun, a bit more challenging, and has some benefits...but you always risk losing the P&D, no? Anyway, good post.
newName543456 9y ago
Key thing is you have to know you will be seeing that woman again. And again. Then it's fine to slow-play. But you have to be sure of that. I messed up many opportunities due to various unexpected circumstances and thinking I had more time than I really did.
Don't bother, when odds are you won't ever see her again, so like OP wrote, a club is no-go.
ECoast_Man 9y ago
I will agree it takes a form of advanced game (as you can see the FR uses several gaming strategies, which at the time was not pre-emptive). However, there are too many people here that think that "escalate immediately" is the be all end all. If you have time use it, and in many situations letting the fruit ripen, the mare get rowdy, whatever analogy you want, is far better than trying to AMOG your way into a lay.
Again, it's all contextual. Only if you have the time, does this work. But it is very much worth it.
PreOrgasmGroanLness 9y ago
You establish a different frame in the relationship between two of you.
TonyZ554 9y ago
The point is to only then slow-play girls you want an ltr with.
Sumsar01 9y ago
One place i find it useful is in situations where there might be little posdibility og closing or if you dont really feel like trying. If there's a lot of girls you game like this they can suddenly close a lot when you want to. Its like a stock for later times. It can also be done in a LTR without any stigma (or you going against your moral code, if you have one).
ECoast_Man 9y ago
Another is one where you are going into foreign territory (new college, new city, etc.) and you meet a new group of friends. I can't stress this enough (it's in my OP).
This you gives you time to get the lay of the land in this potential new friend group. If you're into QT HB 8, and you have time always be flirty with her so you don't friendzone but for example, you might learn later that you're newest bro is into her. Not that you shouldn't fuck her necessarily, but if you get the sense this will piss off the group and you're new in town, you might want to reconsider. In other words, it gives you an opportunity to gain information.
askmrcia 9y ago
Ha I saw you mentioned that you would post this on one of the askTRP threads and you did. Wasn't expecting it to be so well written, but good job and I agree with everything you said.
Slow play has worked well for me and to be honest, its how I got the better looking women.
An example is this one girl on my kickball team. I play on a co-ed rec league team. Usually after our games our team would head to a bar and grab drinks and talk. The first day I met her she made a comment that she was single.
I jumped in and said "ahhh what a coinkydink so am I, we should hang out soon" in a joking type of way. Did grab her number and just chatted her up a bit. So yes, in this case I did not text her for logistics only because there was no need too. Figured I could flirt in text messages here and there because I knew I would see her again at least once a week when we played. So it was just small texts here and there to just plant my seed. Didn't really need to have game or be creative or anything, just the fact that I was on her mind was enough even if it was a little.
Now since then, everytime we see each other, we'll chat. As each week goes by, the chatting increases and I can feel the sexual tension build up more. Like more touching and contact is happening. More smiling at each other. Not to mention, the whole sneaking around and texting and flirting builds it up more because our team captain was strict that they didn't want members banging eachother as it fucks up everything and causses too many problems. So doing everything behind the team's back causes things to build up more.
Eventually it pays off.
This can happen at your job a lot. Actually slow playing at work is how the whole banging co-workers thing happens. It doesn't happen within the first day, week or even month. You see these people everyday and it builds up overtime. Even worse for nurses and security guards and stuff working a graveyard shift.
Now ofcourse be careful with this one.
ECoast_Man 9y ago
Thanks bro. You know what I'm talking about.
There is absolutely nothing like having gamed a girl this way. They think they are in a fairy tale and no LMR.
But the bigger picture, the amount of times I've slow played even short time stuff (by one night for example), but coming across as the "cool guy", and then the next time we are out is probably over 20 where I've bagged.
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I like this thread... it's funny how the hottest chicks I've dated always appreciated a lot that I seem not to care about sex right on the first date. Doesnt mean we didn't make out like teenagers... conversely they would be dtf right on the 2nd (okay, sometimes on the 3rd) date.
If you do have some abundance it makes it so much easier... you can game other "basic" chicks while keeping your view on that pretty girl whom you may wanna try something more substantial with
ECoast_Man 9y ago
I haven't dealt with LMR in years. This is part of the reason why.
StopDropAndTits 9y ago
I actually like this a lot. It gives you a chance to learn if you want to plate her, and it makes it easier to turn into a long-term plate. Usually if you hold off on sex until a few dates in, the girl isn't looking for a ONS.
Also, I enjoy sex more with girls I'm comfortable with.
MattR1984 9y ago
Escalate verbally, show interest, pay attention and listen as you have said.
One thing that took me ages to learn is that all you need to let a woman know is that you are attracted to her and that you like her.
That could be as simple as saying she looks great or that you enjoy spending time with her.
Once she knows you like her, her own mind/body will do the rest.
They will either be turned off and run away, or they won't and if you have shown that you are attracted to them and like them and they still want to spend time with you then you win.
They may not sleep with you ever but you are at least in the right part of her mind.
Honestly, this dumb need to sleep with a girl right away is just dumb.
Meet women, not lays.
[deleted] 9y ago
Slow playing is perfect for girls in class in college, solid post OP.
SovereignSoul76 9y ago
Fantastic post. This happens to be exactly what I have been working through/experiencing myself at this moment. I think that the 2 most important points were excluded though:
1: slow-play is a preferred alternative to getting friend-zoned. You are spending time with this female, but it is in your frame, not hers. You're not getting used, you're establishing equality, which by itself demonstrates that you know your worth.
2: Slow-play is the best way to land a plate that is potentially of higher SMV than yourself. Look, if you're a 5, you're not likely going to land an HB8. But if you can establish a rock-solid frame, demonstrate abundance, and pique her interest/curiosity, at least there's a shot. Not much of a shot, but better than on tinder, in a club, or even a cold approach via day game.
Best way to use the slow-play? Easy. Have enough plates in your life that you're not tempted to jump on her.
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Roaring40sUK 9y ago
A nice alternative to the Escalate, Escalate, Escalate! Mantra..
I currently have a girl that I think might turn into a slow play.. seen her at the gym (shes an instructor) and coffee shop and we have chatted. There is definite interest, but she has said that she is "sort of seeing someone". So I will use your ideas here and see how I go!
ECoast_Man 9y ago
The problem is I see posts where I think escalation was done too early, and unnecessarily. Again, I can't stress the situational aspect enough - Clubs, Tinder dates, music festivals, whatever, would be extremely inappropriate for this move.
Roaring40sUK 9y ago
Agreed, its situational. I have escalated to fucking on a couple of first dates and been ghosted, and not for my performance, I should add!
That said, I also think its a fine line,. Sometimes, if you dont close, you lose the opportunity. But then maybe it would not be worth it anyway.
TheChadSprinkle 9y ago
Compared to most posts on game, this was quite refreshing to read. Come to think of it, this is how I accidentally landed a short-term plate back in my bluepill days.
I think it's a good reminder for all who are still learning game to take it easier and not stress about an instant f-close.
ECoast_Man 9y ago
Problem I see is there is a post over at asktrp fairly frequently where someone is complaining that they can close after 2 or 3 meet ups with a girl, but not the first. This upsets them for some unknown reason.
Peter_B_Long 9y ago
I had a similar theory that I have been implementing which is very much related to this. Basically my version is the amount of boldness you should display to a girl, and it depends mostly on how much time you 2 have together. In passing (few seconds or a minute together) maximum boldness. At a bar or nighclub (few minutes) moderate boldness. Coffee / walk in the park (first date, 15 mins-2 hours) mild boldness. Social group / neighbor / etc. (at least a day) minimum boldness.
I would like to go more into detail when I have time and make an official post, but it basically relates to what you're saying. The longer you're hanging with the girl (school, social group, etc.) the less direct you have to be.