First off, I upvoted you because I believe your question is a legitimate question, even if it cuts against the grain of the subreddit's mission. You seem sincere, so I award the point.

As for why . . .

1. Foremost, we are social animals.

2. Secondly, we are sexual animals.

3. All things being equal, we all vary on how important the pursuit of a good lay. But, if we're being honest, we'd all like to nail down one good woman (at least).

4. Women smell good and feel good to touch. The female presence is soothing.

5. Women do have value beyond being cum receptacles. There is value in having a female perspective in your life. Except for the most radical red pill advocates, I tend to think few are actually advocating using women for nothing but sex. There is value in the female view of "maybe you shouldn't do that, you might die". What most red pillers are advocating is not letting the female worldview overwhelm the male worldview, as has become of the western world since the late 1980s.

There are some damaged red pillers who do go to far. It happens. Some people join a cause. Other people just want to blow shit up. That's how the world works.

Some red pillers are douchebags. Why? Because every demographic has douchebags. That's just life.

Truth be told, if you are stuck on the doctrine, the attitude, the presentation, the PUA stuff, the Game, etc. of the Red Pill community, you've missed the entire point. Eventually, you are going to define your own terms and make them stick in your own life.

No one is telling you to do anything.

But, I will say that dropping out of one of life's big journeys -- the pursuit of love, sex, relationships, marriage -- is basically handing in your citizenship among the human race. Life happens every day. A lot of it is going to hurt. That's not an excuse to skip participating tomorrow.

Well that's an interesting take on things. I have a similar mindset, where I question the point of going after them when I value my time and own interests over women.

Might be a comparison to batman (hear me out...). If you look at his timeline, I believe that he was in his late 20's before he came back from the ninja training shit. May seem silly, but I really think that a man should spend his 20s honing his skills and personal achievements, as it's a time when you can run on a few hours of sleep a day, a couple pieces of meat, and shaving every once in a while.

A mentor of mine who's in his late thirties (single, great guy) said that at his age, you no longer have to chase after women. The rolls reverse, and if you've been doing what you enjoy doing and achieving what you want, they'll come after you, and come onto you strong.

Just take your time and take what you need to get to where you want in life. TRP has been helping me tremendously in my personal endeavors, and as a side result, the interactions with women are way more natural. No more needing to learn techniques, no more playing games.

That's my take, but go about how you see fit man. Good luck.

Because I like to fuck, bro.

There is a feeling that a woman gives a man that I don't think I've ever been able to reproduce over a period of time with any other activity. For example, I am successful and my business with just me has months where I make more than a new doctor's annual salary and even that doesn't give me the feeling that a good woman gives me.

I'd really like to go my own way but the beginning of a relationship is literally the best feeling I've ever had and it's not one that I want to give up.

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Finally, I will anticipate the meat-headed bluster that is imminent: I don't give a dead rat's dying shit about any business about getting "laid". In passing, people who use the word "bro" are about as dim-witted as they come, and one would do well to first consider the opposite of what they advise.

Here at /r/theredpill, we're all about stereotypes, but you have to allow for some irony, bro.

But seriously, MGTOW is completely respectable. It neatly avoids many of the problems we discuss here. Don't think you're stuck in the States, though---expatting is another valid option.

That said, why the fuck do you care what anyone else thinks?

lust

they are beautiful things

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Nothing wrong with using women as disposable pleasures.

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