"If you keep looking in the gutter, all you'll find is trash"
- some guy on the forum about seeking quality women.
I find this hard to believe that quality women exist in these modern times. That's why we call them unicorns.
I've been in it all: clubs, church, social groups, tinder, online dating, friends circle, parties. Women are women. Their sole objective is to lock down high quality semen. They're biologically whores. That's it. And in these times women are becoming professionals right out of highschool while most men are just making something of themselves and getting a whiff of the dating world. basically, if you weren't born with superb genetics, a horse dick, and a rich family, you gotta work your ass off until late 20s before getting a fair chance at playing the same game.
I plated what would be 'quality woman' this year. She was young, not many cocks, didn't get caught up in social drama, had hobbies, worked, from a stable family, and she respects her dad. She was my favorite plate so far in this game. Guess what? She still wanted to ride lots of new dick because she can. This is the American Dream. She cooked for me, was very feminine, and cute. But she still wanted to ride the CC. And so she did. Right before my very eyes. Like watching someone with a disease slowly become a resemblance of who they once were.She only got briefly annoying before being dropped.
- Studious quiet girl from class? She liked being tied up and fucked.
- Awkward gamer girl? She's sucked more dick than a hooker who forgot to pay rent.
- Young lady at church? Gangbanged and creampied and loves it.
- Family oriented chick? Fucks all her guy friends.
Rollo said it best. We're in an era of soft prostitution. The modern model for a masculine relationship dynamic is a god damn harem. Members on here say that woman are degrading but I disagree. Women are accelerating towards their optimum potential. This is how they were meant to be.
So if these unicorns exist, tell me, where do you find them? Because from where I'm standing, you don't find them. It's a needle in the haystack. If you're lucky, you'll stumble across them. And if you're really lucky, she won't later decide her vagina needs 100 visitors all at once.
Flagged as ranting.
psyduck117 8y ago
Move to an amish town or something lmao
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I think alot of these girls are whores to be quite honest. If she is bad as fuck, has a phat ass, is dolled up all the time, squats alot, spray tans. dyes her hair blonde..... She is trying to get wifed bro. Also once again these all point to her more than likely being a whore, and/or a little gold digger type. There is change she could be a good person though. Take a peak at a girls Facebook if you really want to see the type of girl she is. I looked at this girls Facebook once, and immediately was like nah this bimbos a fucking whore.
The only girls that dont seem to be whores for the most part are muslim girls, and I mean some of those girls stink, and if one of them really really likes you. More than likely the marriage thing is going to come up, and she will bring you around her sister and her friends and start talking about it. I might have though, if I was well compensated to marry the girl. I would need to get paid to marry her, and I mean paid.
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hypnotoad114 8y ago
This post is useful, yes there are women out there like that no arguing that is a fact. His stories are definitely inflated. But this poster has allowed himself to be consumed with anger. Even his name awalt_cupcake. This is what happens when you allow (stories of) women or anyone/thing else dictate your thoughts. Instead of obsessing over the (supposive) actions of others accept them and act in your own self interest.
If we woke up tomorrow in the world of OP' s women the best thing you could do is accept their actions and conduct yourself in a matter that was self beneficial. Even if all women are literal cheating cock addicts it would have as much power over you as you give it.
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I could write pages on this, I agree with the general theme of your post. You can find a good girl, but she has either been railed by Chad, or she wants to be railed by Chad at some time in her future. Even if you are her Chad, she will still have beta orbiters available to her, and she will still want to lock down a BB if she wants to. Really Rollo has this story well and truly covered in his blog.
If you want a good girl, then get an ugly girl. I mean a nerdy looking, flat chested girl who goes to church. Or the fat girl in class noone is nice too. Otherwise you just have to accept the world for what it is. If you get a good girl, you may keep her for a while if you are alpha bucks, maybe even for a long time, but it will end in tears. Men are fuck boys and women are whores, welcome to the final awful revelation of the red pill. Just when you thought you had swallowed it all.
I know a bunch of older, rich, high status guys. They have been with hundreds of women. Guess what they all have in common when they get over 60? They only date bar girls from the Phillipines or Thailand. They all say "I do not date white trash, those bitches are only for fucking". That will come as shocking to many but as you get over a certain age they are all whores, at least the Phillipino and Thai girls are honest about it.
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Sdom1 8y ago
This is bullshit. Not because these women don't exist -- because they sure as hell do -- but because you claim these girls are the norm. They're not. Not many chicks have been in a creampie gangbang. That's very deviant behavior, 2 sigma shit at least, and probably closer to 3. Even the other things you've mentioned aren't the norm.
Most people are normal and boring because human traits tend to distribute in a roughly gaussian manner. You don't see many seven footers walking around, right? Bet you see a lot of guys who are 5'10 though. Same for whorishness, it's roughly gaussian.
Most girls aren't getting dicked down by 30 different guys, or sucking 50 dicks or anything like that. Here's the thing though - THEY'RE BORING. They aren't that exciting, free-spirited girl who fucked your brains out the first night you met her. When you start gaming girls, the ones you get anywhere with are more likely to be slutty by definition. It's kinda like how you can't buy homeowner's insurance when your house is already on fire - adverse selection. Or perverse, in this case?
That's not to say that you can find a girl that's 100% guaranteed not to cheat on you, but you can sure as hell improve your odds. Here's a pro tip - look for a girl who is a homebody and who's a bit introverted. She's not going to be the girl who wants to go out and drink all the time, and you won't be going out with your boys as much, but the chances of her cheating on you drop quite a bit. I believe psychologists call this openness to experiences or something like that. Well, the more of that she has the more likely she's open to new dick.
juliusstreicher 8y ago
So, just find a killer babe who wants to spend her time at home, who isn't on a date with one of the 10+ people who hit on her every day. Rotsa ruck.
YiloMiannopoulos 8y ago
I think I remember seeing this in a Disney movie too.
vengefully_yours 8y ago
You're fucking delusional. No not every girl has had a 3 way or fucked the football team, but every fucking one of them would if they could with attractive men.
I have a decent one right now, but that's because she knows I have options, she only has to fuck up one time and she never hears from me again, and that I can easily pull girls half her age. Her options are limited due to being 45. A 24 year old slut has far more options, she will cheat at any opportunity where she has plausible deniability or you won't find out. If you're unable to read body language at the level I can, she can fuck around on you with impunity and you'll believe she is wonderful. I know they're going to before they do, every fucking time, because I've seen it so often over the last 30 years. 20 somethings think they know more than the old gray haired man, and I let them think that. I read them as easily as you're reading this text.
Every girl is a slut, but her options and opportunities vary with her attractiveness and location.
Go ahead and believe quality exists, but I've fucked lots of quality wives and I'm not even that hot. It's that fucking easy.
aiguo888 8y ago
Do you have some weird mature women fetish or why would you settle for an old hag? Just curious.
I'm just 30 but older women have lost their appeal to me for years already.
They just become bitter, insecure, more heavily manipulative etc.
Sdom1 8y ago
This is a great place to start deconstructing your bullshit. The problem is just about any woman can get double stuffed on any day they want. For most women, even post-wall, NSA sex is always on offer, even with attractive men. Always, always, always. So, if they all wanted creampie gangbangs, they'd all be doing it, and they're not. Hence, it's not unreasonable to assume that it doesn't appeal to most women.
You contradict yourself. She's decent, but only because you're so awesome and she knows it. If the only thing stopping her is a lack of options, that doesn't make her decent.
Yes, yes, I get it, you're insecure - awesome! I mean awesome!
Sure, they vary, but the fact remains that most women can get banged out by a good looking guy/s no strings attached.
To sum up: You're full of shit because you act like all women are the same. They want the same things, they do the same things, the only difference is that some don't have the opportunity. People are much more predictable in groups than as individuals, they want many different things, etc etc. Remember, AWALT is just a tool to help guys wake up, it was never meant as a universal truth.
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Came here to pass the same sentiment on to OP. Cant believe the level of delusion in this post
flam3srock 8y ago
LOL Paging vengefully_yours
Sdom1 8y ago
Like I said, this is about odds, not about certainties. Sometimes, you can do everything right and still get fucked, but generally most people are responsible for their lot in life.
u-r-silly 8y ago
These guys are forgetting one major thing.
They want sexual fullfilment. They may be successful at it. But the way they go to obtain it directly excludes themselves from decent women.
All they see are whores and awalt because when they meet a woman who has decency and standards in her love life and won't accept anything short of commitment to have a sexual relationship, they are directly labelled as a womanzier, jerk, dick or whatever and avoided on the spot, because treating women like bitches and whores doesn't sound appealing to a woman who isn't a whore nor a bitch.
Sdom1 8y ago
Let's not go that far. That kind of attitude can work on some women who aren't whores or bitches. It just depends, especially on how the girl was raised.
But the adverse selection definitely exists.
Seoul_Brother 8y ago
I agree with you. Almost everything comes at a bell curve. I've been around the block a couple times and met plenty of virginal girls that were family oriented and went to church... but they were boring af and don't know anything
There is no unicorn. In order for a girl to fuck the way you want, she needs experience in those things. Therefore, she has to have had lots of different kinds of sex to get good. The ideal sexual partner is a veteran slut that can get you off in the wildest ways. The alternative is to train a prude into being a slut so you have exclusivity, but that takes time investment and even risk of dropping the plate/ LTR.
The more they sleep around, more they lose the potential to pair bond, which means the more likely they will be hypergamous/ branch swing.
If I had to say a number, the average American girl probably has had 7-10 different sexual partners on average across all races and socioeconomic statuses. Depending on where you live and what social circles you're a part of that could definitely be different.
There was a quote that I read that if a man could mold a woman the way he wanted, he could create a woman he loves while a man molded through a woman's ideal would be a man she would come to hate. Lol the molding option is probably a better outcome if you want an LTR
Sdom1 8y ago
DING DING DING! We have a winner!
It's almost like life is full of tradeoffs, you can't have it all and your life situation is usually the result of decisions you've made.
But most guys on here would rather pretend that every girl is a super whore so they can duck out of the consequences of their own decision to pursue whores and nutjobs because they're more fun than a homebody.
Carbuncl3 8y ago
Agreed, and here I thought I was doing TRP wrong when I got a "homebody" girl I'm in a LTR with. We pair up quite nicely.
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antariusz 8y ago
Keep pedestalizing your unicorn man. When you get blindsided you can come back and post about how fucking stupid you were and how TRP was right all along AWALT.
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Flynn-Lives 8y ago
This is simply just not true. Have you ever been laid before? Haha
Seoul_Brother 8y ago
lol that's what I was thinking.
Bear-With-Bit 8y ago
So here's what you do: Go find a quality LTR, move in with her, and in a year tell us how dead your bedroom is. Her vagina may not be entertaining 100 visitors then but she won't be excited to ride your dick as she once did before she became your exclusive partner. AWALT and AF/BB.
prodigy2throw 8y ago
If your girl doesn't want to fuck you that's on you dude.
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
Look dude I can't speak for you or others here but a lot of that can also come down to your performance. I'm 29 and none of my girlfriends were ever under a 9/10 and I dated all of them a minimum of 2+ years.
There was NEVER a time where they didn't want to fuck me. But then again I'm in good shape, got blessed with a huge dick, and I dominate them sexually.
Sometimes you have to ask yourself if it keeps happening to you, am I the problem?
sepelion 8y ago
Yeah well good shape plus huge dick put you ahead of the majority of her other options, so you have retention, especially if you have money too.
You're an exception, not a rule. You only validate everything OP said.
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
Yeah but it's not like I rely on the big dick to get laid. I can't go out and tell women "hey look at my big dick" because I would look ridiculously stupid and cringy. I got these women interested BEFORE they knew about the big dick. The big dick is what keeps them coming back though.
And to be honest I don't make great money, I have average money for now. I know with a lot of money getting laid would be even easier but for now I enjoy the challenge.
STRANGLED_HOOKER 8y ago
You don't even need a big dick.
lopsidedlucky 8y ago
He didn't say date. He said move in with her. Also your backwards insult topped with a humblebrag wasn't necessary. If you are living with top tier women for 2+ years and have regular animal sex than you've made it. Your game is tight and you know how to manage your women.
That is not the majority though. Now is it the guys problem he's not strong enough to subvert hypergamy? Yes, but why should a guy even be trying to lock a hypergamous slut down. Makes no sense.
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
Who the hell said he should lock down a slut? I didn't say that. Anyone who has the slightest bit of intellgence knows that sluts aren't EVER relationship material.
It's also not a "stealth brag". My game wasn't great, but going out and getting experience on top of reading the right material has elevated my game. This is something you can do as well and then you can come here in 10 years and "stealth brag" like me too.
Godskook 8y ago
All hypergamy is is self-interest optimized instinctively. Its behaving without regard to the "damage" caused to others through emotional attachment, y'know, exactly like men who pump'n'dump. These things aren't morally different.
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Seoul_Brother 8y ago
Sometimes you have to ask yourself if it keeps happening to you, am I the problem?
Isn't that what TRP is all about?
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
Yep and that's why I can't stand these rants about "all women are whores blah blah". TRP isn't about women, it's about men improving themselves to the point that they don't chase anymore, they become the chased.
caP1taL1sm 8y ago
Let me help you out here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Availability_heuristic
That's what these guys are suffering from. Just because people come on here and post stories about some slut cheating on them with 5 other dudes means that it stays in their mind (emotionally, obviously) and so you don't hear about the posts of all the relatively normal girls.
I for one am a data point for reversion to the mean, of normalcy. I'm plating 3 chicks right now and all of them are much more subdued than this guy would make it out to be. Are they fucking other guys? Maybe, but they definitely don't go out often and really seek to put themselves into situations for a guy to hit on them. (EDIT: One is 19 and doesn't have a fake, so, yeah) Definitely hear you in regards to more introverted girls being an overall better bet to not get cheated on.
Think about this: With Tinder, all those shy chicks who wouldn't expose themselves at a bar or place where everyone is hooking up now have an avenue to meet guys. 2 of the 3 I met on Tinder and it just means they found a great guy in me and they have even less motivation to seek new ones. Sluts are obviously going to slut, but they often stand out and again, you have to account for selection bias in tempering your expectations about women. In other words, if you picked her up relatively easily, then that's probably a red flag if you're worried about cheating.
Also, past performance is does not dictate future results. Just because she used to be a slut doesn't mean that she mis-values your worth. If you're that good she won't want to cheat or fuck other dudes, because she'll be thinking about you.
antariusz 8y ago
And keep telling yourself that she only used tinder once, to find you, the love of her life, but she never used it before you, and will never use it again after you. Lol.
Slurs gonna slut. Hint: all women are sluts.
caP1taL1sm 8y ago
Tinder definitely isn't the place to find monogamy lol that's true. What I am telling myself, and it's a self-fulfilling prophecy, is that I'm the greatest guy she will, can, or has found on Tinder. So if she wants to risk losing me to fuck lesser men, that's her risk. And frankly I really don't care if she sleeps around as long as she doesn't contract an STD.
omnicidial 8y ago
Way less cheated on me than did. I had a total of 2 ever cheaters counting my ex wife out of all the women I ever dated. The whole notion that everyone is just as shitty as a worse case scenario whore that gets used like a glory hole at shitty night clubs is just that, a worst case scenario.
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caP1taL1sm 8y ago
Only read excerpts of it. I took a class in college (top Ivy) that was taught by one of the guys who worked with Kahneman.
Frankly, there should be an entire side-bared post on this book. It's pretty much the ultimate guide to frame, and to allowing you to think objectively and be aware of your emotional dissonance and biases.
D Kahn probably isn't an alpha but he wrote the book on the mechanics of how to best be one.
Sdom1 8y ago
It's a combination of availability heuristic and their sample type, you're right.
Above a certain number of partners, a woman's ability to pair bond drops quickly. But of course, this is all probabilistic thinking. I'm sure there are hard-core sluts who have settled down and been great wives, it's just not a bet I'd be willing to make in my own life.
caP1taL1sm 8y ago
Would be interested in any studies that actually support this. A simple regression on, As N-count increases, what happens to divorce rates / relationship strength?
The hypothesis is definitely in your favor, I'm just curious to see the extent of the affect and if there are diminishing returns to sluttiness. In other words, after her 10th guy, she's just as slutty at the 20th as she was at the 10th.
Something like that. I don't see why the same couldn't be said of men.
lopsidedlucky 8y ago
Bro, stop. Read the side bar. Hypergamy and awalt is rampant. You're setting yourself up to be blindsided hard.
It's not that you're not a great guy and alpha, it's that women are fueled by hypergamy. They'll cheat with a lesser man and not even know why.
caP1taL1sm 8y ago
That just contradicts the core concept of SMV. Women want the highest value guy, they don't want 5 guys whose value is all less than another guy. She can only carry one of their babies, why would she fuck up and get impregnated by a beta?
lopsidedlucky 8y ago
It doesn't contradict SMV concepts. How old are you man? Seriously, you don't know beta's with children? There's plenty of alpha fucks chicks being wifed up and giving birth to beta bucks.
Listen, the reason I'm saying any of this is not to have an internet argument. It's so you can wake up all the way. You seem intelligent and have made it this far but you need to shed the rest of the blue pill man before it bites you in the ass.
RedEyesBlueShades 8y ago
Dude. Up until this point you make some sense, but here it all comes crashing down. And reveals the deep blue behind the curtain.
Past behaviour is the best indicator of future behaviour. If she was a slut, she basically lost her ability to pair bond. Which means she'll be attached to any one guy much less than if she never slutted around.
And she'll be thinking about you is such a blue pill fantasy. I don't know if you're 15 and still believe in fairy tales, or if that blue core runs much deeper than I guessed. Or you have just zero experience. Just reminds me of the women who keep talking about "the power of love". And are single.
voltags 8y ago
Excactly, and past behaviour is a strong indicator what will likely happen when things go south. No matter who you are, there are no man in this planet who can stay 100% alpha and not show any weaknesses 24/7. That is excactly when her past behaviour will start to kick in.
caP1taL1sm 8y ago
Indicator, absolutely. Determinant? No. Ceterus Paribus, sure you'd prefer your girl to not have been railed out by double-digit number of guys. But I'm saying that just because you happened across the knowledge that she has a high n-count doesn't mean that she will necessarily continue to do so.
Context is obviously important here. Is she still a young 20-something who goes out with her friends to bars and parties and gets wasted? Or is she a late-20's girl who had a past but is more mature now and is looking for better quality guys as opposed to quantity.
I don't at all mean in a romantic sense my friend. I mean in a fucking sexual one. And if anything I feel bad for you that you don't have girls texting you saying they want you and that "A guy has never made me this wet before" -- literal quote from this cute 20-year old I'm banging. Giving her the best sex of her life -- especially if she's fucked other guys and has reference! -- can really allow you to make an impression. Hell, even if you take the pessimistic view of women all being sluts, being the best sex she's had will cause her to commit to you anyway. Why else would girls fuck another guy? They take on a >50% of the risk in any sexual encounter.
RedEyesBlueShades 8y ago
So blue. So beta. So clueless. So inexperienced.
Could RP counter pretty much everything you said. But I won't, it's sidebar material. Warning, reading the sidebar may cause your eyes to burn.
caP1taL1sm 8y ago
Too busy getting laid in NYC bud.
Aesteic 8y ago
Not sure about that last part. Once a slut, always a slut.
caP1taL1sm 8y ago
Once a slut, probably a slut. I'm just saying don't let the bias of her past affect your valuation of her in the present and the future.
As with all things relationships, context is everything and you have to make that call yourself. Don't let the emotional affect of you imagining her getting railed out by Chad prevent you from being with an otherwise-great girl. You use the facts at hand and make the best decision you can. I think a lotta guys here make the emotional decision that causes them to be more risk-averse in who the choose out of the fear that she's a slut and will cheat on him.
lopsidedlucky 8y ago
Why are you even on this sub? This post makes you sound like a woman playing games on trp.
You're literally telling people to overlook a girl riding the cc because other than being a huge slut she's a great person. This is the redpill, again, wtf do you think you're doing here.
caP1taL1sm 8y ago
You're getting the causality mixed up. I'm saying that if she IS a great person, irrespective of her past, that a slutty past doesn't just automatically ding her.
I feel like the natural course for people with a phobia that their girl has been with other men is to become Mormon or some other fundamental Christian religion lol. Like it's 2017, girls have sex too.
OmegaMan2 8y ago
The concept of Alpha widowhood is real.
There was story in the British press a while back, about a girl who got railed by an Alpha once and she hung on to that memory for 40 years.
She divorced the beta schlub who married her and went looking for that Alpha. He had died in the mean time and now all she has is her memories of that one night and of what might have been.
Sad but that is reality.
GreenPiller 8y ago
40 years???? Did he take her virginity or something?
OmegaMan2 8y ago
Yes. He was her first. In the article she says that she was deliberately looking to loose her virginity, and then she saw him, handsome, tall and muscular. She plotted ways to meet him until one night she slept with him. It was for only one night however and she hung on to that memory for over 40 years. While her beta husband was fucking her, she imagined that it was him.
I feel sorry for the beta husband as he had probably been sold the old blue pill crap about love.
antariusz 8y ago
Jesus Christ this is terrible advice. Yea, just meet a girl that never goes out of her house. Maybe you can arrange it with her father to meet her?! Oh wait, that's not how the world works anymore.
If a woman wants you to think she's a homebody, it's because she is approaching the wall and wants to lock down a virtuous beta provider. Some women do it sooner than others. Guess what, from about 5 until 23, a woman is leaving her house at least 6 days a week for at least 8 hours a day. If she wants to pretend that she never leaves the house, that's a straight-up lie.
OP is spot on. My current girlfriend is awesome, she's 18 (I'm 34), very feminine, cute. But I'm the 7th guy she's fucked.
She's simply optimized her hypergamy early. She wants me to think she's this family-oriented girl that wants to settle down, BECAUSE THATS HOW SHE WANTS ME TO THINK OF HER. Not because of how she is innately. They are ALL sluts situationally, they are all virtuous homebodies situationally.
lopsidedlucky 8y ago
You nailed it. When the homebody girl finally goes to cabo with her girlfriends you know pedro and jose the lifeguard double team her ass the second night she's there.
Sdom1 8y ago
Jesus, I didn't say to date an agoraphobe. Way to misrepresent what I said.
Sdom1 8y ago
You're making a few mistakes here. The first is that you think "a homebody who's a bit introverted" is an agoraphobe who has never left her home. By "homebody" I meant a girl who likes spending time at home. In other words, she'd rather curl up with a book than go drinking in bars. I mentioned "openness to experience" and said that it raises the probability you'll be cheated on.
You are also making the mistake of generalizing from group characteristics to individual characteristics. For example, blacks are much more likely to commit crimes on a relative basis than whites, but that doesn't mean every black you meet is a criminal. In reality, the vast majority aren't at all.
So you're in your mid-thirties and fucking an 18-year-old slut? Good for you! I mean, it won't last, so just have fun while she's around.
You so sure you're optimal?
So, she has no sense of self or preferences? She's just a machine that responds to environmental cues? No, you think she's a slut innately but is just looking to fool you and lock you down. You can't be a whore situationally, you either are one or you're not one.
LordThunderbolt 8y ago
I know of good girls who play a good front. When nobody's watching, u better cover your eyes.
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Sdom1 8y ago
Online dating and networking through your friends/family/girl cousins/etc are places to start. You'd be surprised, if you tell women what kind of woman you'd like to be set up with, and you have a decent SMV, many women will try to set you up. They LOVE playing matchmaker because they get to take credit if you two stay together long term. Some women are better at this than others, of course - be prepared for the occasional awkward setup.
Networking is one of life's most underrated skills. If you really learn how to do it, you'd be surprised how much pussy it can bring you.
PS - I'm assuming you want a girlfriend, not a plate. You can plate chicks that you get set up with, but it will cause more headaches long term than it's worth.
cuntrolbot 8y ago
You are the 21st guy she's fucked.
antariusz 8y ago
Eh, I'm inclined to believe it, because she was "white girl wasted" when she confessed it to me. But yes, I get your point. I don't care if she's had 7, or 77, either way she won't get the unicorn treatment from me. I can be honestly non-judgemental when women relate their sexual history, because I'm likely well over 200 by now.
cuntrolbot 8y ago
... you're likely well over 67 by now.
antariusz 8y ago
Lol, I tried making a list naming every woman I slept with about 5 years ago, I was already at 50 at that point (and remembering their names was impossible), and that's right around the time things really started to take off for me (virgin until 25, 34 now) which not coincidentally, is right around the time online dating really started to take off. This year I completed my bucket list item of 7 different women in 7 days. I think 30 a year would be an extremely conservative estimate. I know for a fact I'm way over that this year.
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You know that some STDs aren't curable and that condoms don't provide 100% protection....
Having plates is good. Racing n count past 200 as fast as possible reeks of post-incel insecurity.
antariusz 8y ago
Oh, well I'll definitely admit, at least initially, sometimes I did things just to see if I could, like a 4-some with three girls.
I did the hedonism thing for a while, just because I was, in fact, a hedonist. I recognize that pleasure is sometimes best when it's via delayed gratification.
prodigy2throw 8y ago
Thanks for bringing some sanity to this sub. A lot of the AWALT shit is overblown but it brings out guys insecurities so it gets upvotes.
Godskook 8y ago
It entirely depends on what one means by "AWALT", really.
If "like that" means gyno-centric instinctually-hypergamous shit-testing women who are more focused on what you can do for them than what they can do for you, then yeah, AWALT. At that point, its just the gender-bend of AMALT accurately described. Can confirm with basically all my female relatives.
If "like that" means cock-carousel-riding cheating gold-digging whores, then no, not AWALT. That's no more true than its gender-bend of Chad Thundercock. Not all men are Chad, and I don't want to be, cause he's a douche. And not all women are Chadwina Thundercunt either.
Degener0 8y ago
You get bored because the sex gets robotic, he'll leave you. All guys are like that.
Sdom1 8y ago
Well, AWALT is a great tool for helping guys who are delusional and blue-pilled to break out and take the red pill. So, it does have value. The problem is when the newly red-pilled treat AWALT like religious dogma rather than just a conceptual tool.
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No one's saying AWALT is completely wrong or doesn't have value as a tool. They're saying it's an exaggeration and doesn't preclude the existence of unicorns. Because AWALT is not meant to be taken literally. Exceptions can and do exist (the topic of this thread). In other words, there ARE quality women out there.
Then you get the fucking mindless sheep jumping on here to call people blue-pilled, crying that ALL WALT, I've seen shit, they all sluts. Except real RP theory even states AWALT is not meant literally.
The fucking autists on here.
GreenPiller 8y ago
Dude AWALT isnt an exaggeration. Ive seen and experienced a lot of shit. And alot of guys here have been through some tough times also. This sub wasnt created out of thin air.
IllimitableMan 8y ago
Ah, the old AWALT debate, a debate as old as time itself.
This should clear things up: http://illimitablemen.com/2015/12/16/the-awalt-misconception/
GreenPiller 8y ago
I was just about to read that again lol. Thanks sensei.
prodigy2throw 8y ago
AWALT doesn't mean every woman has taken 100 dicks and performed in orgies. It means women are hypegamous in nature. I suggest you read Rational Male if you haven't already then come back
blackballed_ 8y ago
TL;DR Stay woke fam.
Taking 100 dicks and getting down with an orgy on the reg are usually far fetched, take that with a grain of salt. Something that is totally plausible but outlandish in day to day life being expressed like that is usually flagging the underlying pathology that is exploitable. Either that or warped perceptions of reality are really that real.
E.g. Married and "good girls" are my thing (I swear to God no humblebrag) because I always get a kick out of the ratchet shit I get into with them. I know they're totally different day to day and they're down to get grimy as much as I'm down to take the risk. However in every other facet they can be and usually are gnarly as fuck and it doesn't change how I see them.
Edit: I'm not mad, but suck my fucking dick and make sure you use the same hand to stroke it as you did to downvote. Eventually you move past being a huge twat to chicks, and learn to game the system. You all know you can "un-robot" yourself after while of swallowing the pill and rebuild on your own terms, right? Get fucking real.
IIlllIllIIIllIl 8y ago
I hear ya man. It's all about gaming the system, as well as the ladies. Now that we see how the walls, we can go where we want how we want our way.
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
I prefer my experience over random guy online telling me what men and women are and aren't. The best way to understand women and to get a lot of women is the "old school" way of putting yourself out there socially and not being a nice guy/white knight but a real man who has his own hobbies, opinions, etc. Basing your entire "game" on some guy who wrote "rational male" isn't doing you any favors, you're only seeing it from HIS perspective and not from your own. I guarantee if you go out you'll see a lot of true things you read on this sub and of course some false things you read on this sub.
The best teacher in life for ANYTHING including getting women is experience and nothing will replace experience as the best teaching tool.
blackballed_ 8y ago
No need to down vote my dude here. He's got a point and I agree pretty well with it.
Except, be open minded to seeing it through the eyes of someone well known in the scene, then apply what you objectively find to fit better.
Edit: as another poster mentioned, purplepill is probably your speed. If Chad is doing measurably better than you, take notes. Theory can't usurp experience as the ultimate teacher but they aren't mutually exclusive. Rather, they're pretty close on the libra scale.
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
Thanks for the support man. I stand by what I said, experience is the best teacher. Go out and find sluts, good girls, bad girls, crazy girls, etc. Know how they think, how they act, and use that information to your advantage in the future. I don't mind the downvotes but this honestly isn't rocket science it's common sense.
vengefully_yours 8y ago
They still want to believe unicorns exist and that the slut they've been fucking for the last few months is the one... Or they've never been laid and are still plugged in.
Life teaches the hard lessons after the test. I've seen some shit, and the reason I'm even here is to pass along experience so others don't fuck up like I did. I fucked up because I listened to the women are wonderful bullshit and changed my behavior, started thinking like these guys. They downvote because they are afraid of the facts and want the comfortable lie, not because you have not added to the discussion.
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
Thanks man I appreciate the wise words and I'm here for the same reason you are. I'm 29 now but if I had the TRP when I was 18 I would've been very grateful, these people here who are young have no idea how lucky they are that TRP exists during their best years.
Like you, I had to learn the "game" through trial and error. At first my success to rejection ratio was bad but with every rejection I learned where I made a mistake and how to avoid it. I was/am an attractive guy but my game was non existent. I went from 0 partners until I was 17 to now at 29 I have honestly lost count.
The smart guys on this sub will learn from us and apply properly. The dumb ones will continue to downvote and play to their unrealistic fantasy.
vengefully_yours 8y ago
The girl who doesn't have a 100 plus count is either fat, ugly, or extremely religious. Read that as muslim. Fat girls can still hit 100, but they have to lower standards to get there. You're kidding yourself or incredibly ignorant if you think otherwise. I've known some who hit 100 cocks in less than 6 months, your basic 6 can do that.
Nobody is saying every girl is like that, because you still have hamplanets and buttergolems who can't achieve it, but a hot girl can get over the century mark with ease, and she probably hit that before she turned 19. Accept it, because it's reality even if you don't like it.
suloco 8y ago
Lol, yeah right. So there are no women over 21, who are at least a 5 and have less than 100 dick count? Nobody is denying hypergamy or that western women are utter shit but you are seriously deluding yourself. I'm not even a westerner so I'm not gonna speak about American women but I seriously doubt it's that bad even in US. I've left this sub aside for a while but damn, son, you've come a long way in the meantime. Last time I checked in endorsed guys still had some connection to reality.
CQC3 8y ago
I love it. I really wonder if I say shit like ham planet or butter golem in real life if it can be traced back to here, probably if I was doing the sleuthing.
prodigy2throw 8y ago
I'm not debating if women CAN fuck 100 men in a year. Im saying not every woman does just because she can.
Hypergamy does not mean fucking every alpha dick you can get your hands on. All women are hypergamous. A virgin catholic girl with high morals is just as hypergamous as the girl with 100 dicks on her belt. That's not the point. Act accordingly, be a fucking man with a vision, principles and status and go on with life.
The circle jerk of "all women participate in Mandingo parties" is poisonous to your mental health.
[deleted] 8y ago
Good, at least some RPers are properly woke, not butthurt exagger-baters.
This.
Also this. That circle jerk is most of the incels sub.
skylive2 8y ago
Have you ever had friends who are women? They do not sleep around that much
johnsonsson 8y ago
you don't even need friends to proof that. his claim is ridiculous and comes from a deeply frustrated and bitter place i guess.
BlackJ1 8y ago
Alright now y'all need to chill out now...
This is the most intense claim I have ever seen on TRP and frankly I'm a bit confused by it.
The "average" woman does not have a 100+ count. That's fucking insane, and it actually contradicts the notion of hyper gamy, unless said woman just happens to be in an area where there is a whole bunch of top 20% men.
Yes I'm talking about your average HB5+, skinny, "Christian", liberal arts degree, plain Jane.
[deleted] 8y ago
It's not just the HB5s.
If vengefully_incel can't bed HB8s with <20 n-count, his game and SMV is weak.
Just because every hot girl you meet is a slut with poor impulse control doesn't mean every hottie is like that. Those are just the easy lays, who you'll find on Tinder and at bars and frat parties all the time.
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Of course you'll be shocked on this sub. There's major confirmation bias. Guys are only going to report the extremely whoreish cases. You don't get FRs about every prude not putting out.
I've bedded many 8s and 9s with low n-count in 20s. I am friends with others. I know they exist. The women who are still on the dating market in their 40s are going to have high n-count. They're sexually active and never settled down? How many times did they ride the CC over 25 years?
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GreenPiller 8y ago
I respect your point of view but I have to ask. Why are you even here? Purplepilldebate would suit you better.
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LordThunderbolt 8y ago
Yes, it's not a democracy in this bitch. If we argued every point on this sub, the core values would be washed away and nobody would be able to tell eBay actual RP values are.
SilverWolfeBlade 8y ago
Jesus fucking christ you greenhorns never learned to read between the lines did you?
lopsidedlucky 8y ago
The fact that you're now negative downvote while PhucCheet's bluepill comment is higher suggests we may have lost this forum to bluepillers.
SilverWolfeBlade 8y ago
Dude, I barely come onto this forum/subreddit anymore.
I'm thankful for the sub and community for helping me out, but these kids are just not worth the hassle.
lopsidedlucky 8y ago
I hear you bro. It's as if they're not even coming here to learn, just to subtly argue in favor of bluepill values.
theoctopuss 8y ago
The red pill is a tough one to swallow. Some spit it up and never try again.
SilverWolfeBlade 8y ago
You can bring a horse to water. But you cant teach it to not get fucked by bluepill values unless it wants to learn.
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SilverWolfeBlade 8y ago
Oh shit - wrong comment.
Well Downvote away then
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
Yep it's post like this by the OP that make others cringe at this sub. Are there a lot of women out there who are easy and not loyal? Yep. But it's not a 99% whore to 1% loyal like OP is whining about.
Truth is there are plenty of good women out there. My ex of 5 years ended up becoming way too feminist for me and that was the end of that. My new gf knows I'm the man, knows I make the important decisions in our relationship, and she doesn't go out without me even when her girlfriends try to talk her into going without me.
Did I purposely go out and look for this kinda girl? Nope. I just allowed myself to be out there, to be social with many people, and through allowing myself to be open minded and social I eventually found a girl that knows the gender roles and doesn't mind playing her role aka the female who cooks and cleans and is very happy that I'm a man who says "no" when needed and don't let myself get walked all over.
I can't even tell you how many times this new girl has told me how much she loves that I'm a real man and not a guy who is always complimenting her non stop.
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Do you share this story with everyone or just us? If you're a guy who gets it, your girl becomes more feminine. If she turns feminist then you're doing it wrong. She doesn't go out without you, huh? Do you have a life of your own cause if you don't get one, she's gonna make sure you do by breaking up with you.
Also overt dominance displays I.e. saying "no" "put your foot down" type stuff don't register with women like they do you. Other women trying to get your attention, you checking out other girls, you flirting with her friends, you not eagerly texting back and forth are signs of the man you speak.
LordThunderbolt 8y ago
Have u been in a committed relationship with a faithful and loving gf for the past years? No? Well then fuck off. Theyre all hoes out there. Id rather prepare for the worst and be surprised by the opposite than fool myself.
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
Actually yes I'm in a committed relationship with a gf who pays for my dinner, cooks me dinner when I get home from training, cleans my laundry, and gives me sex on demand. I've dated women who turned out not to be loyal but that was in my early 20s and I learned from it. I used those experiences to find a woman who knows I'm the man and in charge. But then again I'm intelligent and attractive which you seem to lack so you probably will never have the same experiences. Being bitter on here isn't going to help you buddy, kneel before your superior and maybe I'll help you out.
LordThunderbolt 8y ago
The classic "I'm too Chad to get cucked". I'm already laughing at your stupidity. Yoh do have to understand that your life experience is not my problem though, and that whatever happens to u doesn't affect me. Good luck, I hope u open your eyes sooner than later.
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
You are an idiot. Do you know why guys like me aren't paranoid? Because I'm a handsome motherfucker so if one chick doesn't workout I just move on to the next one. It's not rocket science. I'd bet my life you have no social skills around women.
Kneel before me and seek forgiveness. NOW!
LordThunderbolt 8y ago
I'm not hiding behind a screen name unlike u. You can clearly see me in my post history.
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
Yeah you look exactly what I imagined you to be, a pussy.
LordThunderbolt 8y ago
Lmao the funny guy here is you. Good luck out there .
theoctopuss 8y ago
I've banged out sluts on the first day. You check their instagram and find out they have a (beta) husband, a kid or two, and the whole bullshit "family" housewife image.
Its like, lmao dude. You mean that girl who's throat became my cum receptacle last night is a realtor and drives a 2013 wife-mobile while she drops her kids off at soccer practice?
Don't ever take them at face value. All of women are hiding their inner slut. All it takes is a Chad with a fast mouth and a hard cock to bring it out. Even if she's the doting housewife, she'll still bend over and beg for a strange cock in her ass.
brinkleybuzz 8y ago
I've been in the game for a while and have seen with my two eyes, experienced myself or gotten reliable accounts of "respectable" women doing some real freaky shit. We're taliking soccer moms, business execs, elementary school teachers, etc getting banged in restrooms, on dance floors, fucking a dude in front of friends, MMF, sucking multiple dicks at once, serial gang bangs (fucking 3+ dudes on the same night), acting as groupies and fucking celebs, sucking off her side dude then kissing her boyfriend when he comes home from work, etc.
Can't deny AWALT. Most women are capable of this. The real question is does this disqualify a woman from a relationship.
vengefully_yours 8y ago
You're very delusional. Good luck with that.
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lopsidedlucky 8y ago
Finally the red pillers are showing up.
awalt_cupcake 8y ago
if you cringe at words on a screen you're a huge pussy
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
I cringe because the chances are very high that you speak the same with with women in real life hence why you're on here complaining women are leaving you and never sticking around.
Maybe you're just cringy in person too tough guy?!
lopsidedlucky 8y ago
What are trying to say here? I don't mean this in an attacking way but someone of what you'er agreeing with is seriously bluepill. Is it that you agree with sdom and there's plenty of unicorns and awalt isn't that big of deal because you are finally the man that can keep a women in check?
Listen, all the things this new girl is telling is you great but, she's a woman. You can't believe most of what she tells you. It could be her validating you to get you hooked on her validation (in the sidebar) or many other things. She can genuinely believe it but that won't matter because hypergamy rules supreme.
All my plates tell me almost identically the same thing as your girl. Doesn't matter though bro. She's not mine, it's just my turn and the same is likely for you.
IIlllIllIIIllIl 8y ago
I think he's bringing up that, while grave and unavoidable, there exists women outside the extremes regularly seen on here. They're still AWALT though, so keep that shit tight.
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
Read your last paragraph over and over and then you'll realize why a woman is never "yours" and that it's just your turn. In your mind you are already defeated, in your mind you have already lost hope that you can find one of the rare women out there who are ride or die for their guy.
You're making so many assumptions it's ridiculous. Do you personally know my convos with the girl? You don't so why assume? I've told her multiple times to her face that I'll never trust her 100% because of my past experiences with women. I've told her if I even sense disloyalty she will hit the free market. I'm not threatning her, I'm showing her that I'm not a beta male and that I always have other options other than her.
She treats me like the man I see myself mentally - dominant, in charge, boss of the household, she pays for dinner most times, she does whatever I ask sexually, etc. I don't allow myself to act like a victim because women can sense when a man is weak minded and they'll take advantage of it.
askmrcia 8y ago
Just chalk it up that he found one in 3 billion. Its always people in relationships that spouts that stuff.
We all know the ex player/jock/or guy that got rejected by multitude of women and when they find one in the honey moon phase they start saying things like most women aren't like what we thought they were.
Once the honeymoon phase ends I'm sure we'll see a AWALT post and how the reason he failed the relationship was because he slipped into his blue pill ways. I've seen it enough times on this sub.
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
Or I have already slipped into blue pill ways in the past and learned from that. Ever thought of that scenario or do you just enjoy playing the victim? Feminists play the victim, men learn from their mistakes and take charge in life. Be a man.
SunnyHillside 8y ago
The issue with us homebody women is we aren't out and about so meeting us is challenging... unless you deliver something to me or catch me at my bi-weekly food run I doubt we will meet.
sunole123 8y ago
the issue with us men the morning boner is constant reminder to seek a partner while women they just tighten up zip it shut and use food (to eat that is,)
lopsidedlucky 8y ago
That's a bs excuse for being lazy and refusing to put yourself out there for fear of rejection. How bluepill has this forum become that a woman dropping this bullshit is being upvoted. Are there that many thirsty betas here?
SunnyHillside 8y ago
It's no excuse. It's my lifestyle. I'm currently content being alone.
awalt_cupcake 8y ago
bitch shut the fuck up and get off this sub
awalt_cupcake 8y ago
bruh do you even game women. sluts are a literal epidemic.
My literal last two plates. Still fucking new guys every 2 weeks or so like it's a hobby.
Sdom1 8y ago
No, stopped years ago. Cashed out my chips while I was ahead. I still have friends in the game, though. The only thing that's really changed is how people initially connect (Tinder, of course). What, you think whores just sat around and twiddled their thumbs before Tinder?
Most evidence actually shows that kids now are fucking LESS than they did when I and my parents' generations were young. The reason a lot of people perceive the opposite is that fucking was a more private affair in the past. No internet, no tinder.
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girls who like to be gamed are sluts more often than not, with amazing sex right from the start, head game out of control etc
girls whom you want to engage with are boring more often than not, doesn't mean that they won't enjoy sex but it's 99.9% on you. I found out there's a high correlation between not getting the dick sucked spontaneously and not getting cheated on.
that's the dilemma, at least for me
Tbonesupreme 8y ago
Yeah, it's the difference between a girl sucking your dick because she likes you, and sucking dick because she likes sucking dick.
The latter will always be better at it, and will practice whenever she can with whoever strikes her fancy.
DaBaulz 8y ago
funny because I am of two minds about this. I agree with you both. I have met the gangbang girls, and the good ones too. The good ones are rarely at the bar, and it really depends on your class/social circle/age. My parents were immigrants to the US, so my european value centric family has tons of connections to old fashioned family girls that won't even learn how to drive unless their husband asked them to, let alone hit up the clubs. I have met many many women who just want to cook dinner, go to church and raise their kids and be a good wife. They exist in abundance. But I also agree with /u/awalt_cupcake that they can be intensely aggravating to find.
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
I'm also European and have a similar experience since moving to the USA in 1997. Where in Europe are you from? I have a feeling we are very close geographically.
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HS-Thompson 8y ago
This is an excellent post and well stated.
It's also perhaps worth noting that 99.94% of guys in that situation (long relationship, a hot out of town woman has a lux suite and is interested in sex only) would cheat in the exact same way, even if engaged. It reminds me of that Bill Burr routine about how nobody understands what it's the sacrifice required to actually be faithful unless they are constantly being propositioned.
It's not even AWALT, it's all humans are like that. To quote something else from pop culture, this time Game of Thrones:
“People work together when it suits them. They’re loyal when it suits them. They love each other when it suits them, and they kill each other when it suits them.”
Recognizing how human nature works is the cornerstone of TRP. It isn't bad or good or anger inducing, it just is what it is. If you want to create situations where the people in your life behave in the ways you desire, you incentivize them to do so and go from there.
lopsidedlucky 8y ago
This needs to be upvoted to the top. People forget how awalt works. The "good girls", "innocent girls", "homebody girls" are all like that.
The amount of married an engaged "christian girls" and "good girls" that drop dtf comments to me at work are insane. The trp bro's at my work get it from the same women too and nobody who isn't redpill aware would ever guess. These are cute hello kitty loving, no clubbing, whore shaming, educated women all dtf cheating on their fiancees and husbands. Btw, all their SO's are engineers or analysts and think they have sweet lovely unicorns.
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
Dude maybe you're just not packing much down there? Maybe you suck at fucking?
If every girl you're with ends up fucking other dudes you're either unbelievably unlucky in choosing women OR they just get bored of YOU and move on.
awalt_cupcake 8y ago
it's the nature of plates man. you ought to know.
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
I have very good experiences with women. When I know a girl is slutty I treat her as such. When I know a girl is bad I treat her as such. When I know a girl is good I treat her as such. I acknowledge to myself that a lot of women out there are dumb, greedy, and narcissistic but I also know that there are good ones out there.
Your strategy according to your post is "waahhh all women are bad wahhhh" and clearly judging by your whining in your OP your strategy clearly hasn't worked.
My strategy of knowing what type of girl I'm dealing with and changing my strategy based on that has worked amazing for me. Many of us have acknowledged we were wrong at one point in our life and have fixed it, perhaps you should rethink your strategy if you're always ending up with the same results over and over (women leaving you etc).
Just trying to give you good advice instead of mocking your post. Good luck.
awalt_cupcake 8y ago
I don't want your trash advice.
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
"To be honest, I haven't seen many pretty girls! Lots of fatties."
"Based on what he told me about her shady behavior lately, she's found a new man. I told him and he said he had a feeling something was up."
"She was really tight so I didn't last long."
"She's told people the sex was whack and goes on and on about lots of other shit."
"Some women take it as an opportunity to write me off as a bitter social retard."
"Endless to say those numbers (if any) go nowhere."
"If you know about my posts, I was assaulted by a crazy slut at my house."
SAVING THE BEST FOR LAST... LOL
"My game is awful. I really don't know what I'm doing anymore besides not texting back until a few days and employing soft nexting."
^ ALL QUOTES FROM YOUR POSTS! Looks like your dad is a sucker just like you are, I guess it runs in the family?
ARE YOU SURE YOU DONT NEED ADVICE? LOL! I can't believe you made a post about having frame around an escort hahah it's a fucking escort, fuck her and move on lmao! The quotes above show a desperate and lonely man which makes me wonder WHY are you posting advice on here? You clearly don't know what you are doing with women. Like you said yourself "my game is awful", so please stop posting advice on this sub because obviously what you're doing just isn't working.
awalt_cupcake 8y ago
you're bringing up my past just to spite someone on the internet? Get a life dude.
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
Those posts are all from the last month, hardly your "past". Like I said before you could use the advice buddy!
awalt_cupcake 8y ago
I had no idea. I thought this was my life and that last month I was fucking a blonde and making a shit ton of money. I must be wrong about my own past.
I must be insane.
Why are you arguing with a crazy person?
Abadalt 8y ago
I think it's neat that a comment I made created further discussion within the RP community. Thanks for the love
Jax77789 8y ago
Women are what the times are. Our time is one of sluttery and open hypergamy so most women become whores.
Back in the old days social shaming worked well enough. Most women were LTR material.
My point is : quality girls do not exist, what you should be looking for is a girl you can mold in your own image. You will create your quality girl because if you do not, society will make a slut out of her.
Bitchezbecrayy 8y ago
I'd be fascinated to see how this all plays out in the near future. I mean, we're already at below replacement birth levels at many countries in Europe.
Guys, women are hoein' out so hard, even betas are starting to give up on marriage and kids. Compounding this misery is the fact that the muslims are invading in hordes and these r-selected fuckers breed like rabbits. Shits gonna go down, fellas. Major shit's gonna go down!
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I've been thinking that as time goes on women are going to invade more and more male dominated areas as a means of coping or blending. Look at gaming, it's practically the norm for cute girls to play and cosplay now.
BullshittingNonsense 8y ago
We need the Valar to send us Gandalf so he can help us unite the Men of the West to defeat Sauron's Eastern Hordes.
[deleted] 8y ago
Why would you willingly sign yourself up for a legal contract where the other party can take half of your possessions and wealth, and all of your kids, when statistically 50% of those contracts end up in divorce? Yeah, even blue pill me always questioned that...
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Meanwhile in the blue pill world, the right way to solve this crisis is to end the alimony/child support- because this is an 'era of equality'.
But then our politicians always address/suppress the symptoms than find a cure so to hell with it.
xArcheo 8y ago
Because society and generations before us say that is what we need to do to.
Yeah, no thanks. Even when I was blue pilled I questioned this.
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Generations before us had a much better deal. I don't think divorce rape ever crossed your great grandfather's mind.
xArcheo 8y ago
For certain, but many do not see it that way and still are stuck in old ways.
Marriage fucks the modern man.
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PM_ME_YOUR_LEAKS 8y ago
Couldn't agree more. It's been a while since I viewed this sub (other account). But this thread has been refreshing
YiloMiannopoulos 8y ago
So glad we have an ocean between us and Europe.
JFMX1996 8y ago
Population goes to shit, not enough births, nor deaths, so we're left with an aging population. Then the leftists try to bring in foreigners by the millions, saying we aren't growing enough.
Like, yeah, no shit. You keep killing all the babies through abortion.
BigBrotherZiggy 8y ago
This shit gets really depressing if you think too much about it. I try to remind myself of a quote whose author I don't know: "Hard times create hard men, hard men create good times. Good times create soft men, soft men create hard times."
[deleted] 8y ago
Damn that can be deep.. It sounds like this long lasting human issue that we have never learned from. Will the modern world ever screw up massively enough to ruin our freedom etc.?
[deleted] 8y ago
abortion is a miniscule contribution to the amount of births. Blame birth control if anything.
JFMX1996 8y ago
That's also one of the grave things enabling mass scaled promiscuity and female hypergamy to act out in the way it has.
Calypto- 8y ago
This is exactly what the kikes wanted. By destroying the family, they are able to make the state the new parents. The result? Human cattle that will never be self-sufficient.
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Aesteic 8y ago
I'm not sure TRP is anti-Semitic, every man is welcome.
[deleted] 8y ago
Not antisemitic. But the amount of jews propagating leftist ideas are way too high
aanarchist 8y ago
top top of it the people procreating tend to be less intelligent. smart couples stay child free cuz they know the fuckfest they'd be bringing a child into.
[deleted] 8y ago
Yes, this is what I don't understand. I'm not emotionless but I've never really wanted to have any kids, I just don't care. I feel like it's a burden on your life. I've met few like minded people.
aanarchist 8y ago
i wonder if the future will be like a finite number of people that don't age and don't procreate but can create copies of themselves in the case that they die. ultimately procreation is a biological instinct for the sake of living forever in a sense, if only by preserving a piece of your genetic legacy. it's why parents try to turn their kids into carbon copies of themselves rather than letting them be their own people.
Ovadox 8y ago
This. Overpopulation, resource depletion, anthropogenic climate change, antibiotic resistance, etc etc. Things are going to get really ugly in the future. Can't in good conscience have a kid into that kind of world. I'd rather use my resources and time to enjoy my own life.
aanarchist 8y ago
truly a shame that some of the brightest humanity has to offer have given up on the planet. tbh i think that's what the global elite want, that's why some of the smartest people tend to be depressed and low self esteem and a sense of nihilism. the system is designed to kill them off. it's why despite not particularly wanting kids i almost feel a sense of duty and obligation to have as many kids as i can with as many women as i can, and to demand the same of any men and women i deem of benefit to humanity. there are some people who have the same mentality who want to do their part, maybe not in terms of populating the planet but in helping inspire others to stand up and fight the system. the machine must be fought and killed otherwise it will suck the world dry, it'll be another mars.
Ovadox 8y ago
Passing on your genes is going to have a minimal effect on the future trajectory of Western Civilization and humanity in general. What really matters is our collective body of knowledge and ideas. Western civ has had some great insights that led to the institutions and technology that allowed it to dominate the planet for centuries. However, it has become a victim of its own success and is not sustainable in its current incarnation. We need to figure out the best bits to keep, what to change and transmit those ideas to as many minds as possible. That's the most important task of our age. I can devote a lot more time and energy to that goal without kids.
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I see what you're saying but what I don't understand is why an intelligent person would choose to spend their lives working towards a future that they won't be around for.. I get that I sound terribly selfish but shouldn't you ultimately be concerned for your own well being?
Ovadox 8y ago
You make it sound trying to improve the world and looking out for yourself are always mutually exclusive ideas. They aren't. Is doing so a challenge in a world that encourages you to consume at the maximum rate possible? Sure, but if I was averse to being challenged I wouldn't read and post on this sub.
awalt_cupcake 8y ago
Makes me wonder are the muslims doing it right? Not morally right. but they're able to exploit our whores and if they breed; then there's more of them then us. So... they're doing it right.
goldaxis 8y ago
I dunno, take a look at muslim-majority countries and answer your own question. Do those look like places done right?
PM_ME_YOUR_LEAKS 8y ago
They're also like 50% inbred, rape in gangs, marry and fuck little girls, and sodomize little boys.
They are absolutely not doing it right.
BullshittingNonsense 8y ago
Yeah but if they bang the Europeans it takes care of the inbreeding problem
awalt_cupcake 8y ago
Not morally right but strategically right
PM_ME_YOUR_LEAKS 8y ago
They're like the Amish, minus all the honor killings and cousin fucking. And technology.
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
Both you and the guys under your comment are idiots. I'm European and there is no "rape epidemic" like the internet tells you. In fact unless a Muslim looks really white he has almost no chance of bagging a white European girl.
It's kinda sad to see blatant racism and stereotyping in this sub by a bunch of dudes who strike out every weekend and come here to take their rage out.
The fact that you can't get laid and or find a good woman has nothing to do with Muslims or other crazy conspiracies that you think of. It comes down to you either aren't very attractive, have horrible game, or just don't satisfy them sexually either with a small penis or you just suck at sex.
Sure blame the Muslims, Jews, feminists, whoever you want but good looking guys like me have been fucking and are still fucking attractive girls while you moan about it online.
SocialJusticeWhiner 8y ago
What about the rapes in cologne? What about all the Muslim terrorist attacks in Europe? How about 60-70% of French inmates being Muslim? Islam encourages a skewed operational sex ratio where there are not enough women since they're concentrated in the hands of mid and high level guys. This forces young/poor/low status guys to go out and rape or conquer to have sexual access to women. Ever wonder why women aren't allowed out in Muslim countries without an escourt? That's so they don't get raped because there are so many thirsty dudes out there. Now consider that the majority of asylum seekers are under 33 and primarily male.
While I'm OK with letting the educated or wealthy refugees in who are doctors, engineers, scientists etc however I'm entirely against letting the savages in like they have in Europe. Why would anyone want to let a bunch of low IQ low skill people into their developed countries during a wave of unprecedented automation? Perhaps to cement a new voting block? That's not racism, it just makes sense to keep them out. If we want to help these people it's more economically efficient to send aid.
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
Dude I've lived in Germany and have family still in Germany. Do you even know the cologne story? I think you should do some research / more googling and I think you'll realize that the accusations are highly exaggerated. But let's say there is an epidemic, what do you have to say about German men then if they freely allow their women to be raped? Are you calling one of the fiercest fighting nations in the world a bunch of pussies who let foreigners rape their women? Just think about how ridiculous your claim is and then realize if rape was rampant in Germany those refugees would be destroyed because German men are aggressive when it comes to defending their family and home, as two world wars have shown.
The problem here is your closed minded view towards Muslims. You literally only have one view and that's that Muslims are evil who rape and kill. I have an idea of where you get your "news" but I don't want to make this a political thing.
There are a billion Muslims, if they were ALL bad we'd all be in huge trouble. Most Muslims are like you and I, they want a good life for their family and they want meaning to their life. Not everybody is out to get you man. Feminists make themselves the victims at every chance they get, you're a man don't act like a victim, know you're a man and that you're in charge of your life. As a bonus, women love that kind of man and not the kind who whines and plays the victim.
Lastly to show you how ignorant you are in your views towards Muslims. The rape and killing Muslims you speak of are ISIS and organizations like them, they're the minority, they don't even make up 1% of Muslims worldwide.
I recently visited Bosnia and Turkey, two Muslim countries and guess what I saw? Women dressed the same as women in the west. Women and men drinking, partying, being sexual in public and guess what? No beheading, no jail, nothing. It was as normal as it is in the west. Not to mention the Asian Muslim countries which are similar to the west in terms of culture.
The point here is there are bad people in every religion. You see ISIS on the news and you come on here ranting "all Muslims are bad". So when I see the Vatican trying to bury evidence of mass pedophilia do I go on rants about how all Catholics are pedophiles? No because it's stupid, don't be stupid.
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whyalwaysm3 8y ago
Have you ever seen Arabs / the guys coming in as refugees? They don't look "strong" or "masculine" they look weak, tired, and out of shape. That's to be expected considering where most of them come from. I'm sure there's an exception or two but 99% of those men are the complete opposite of a strong and masculine man.
Also they don't come from the "east", in Europe we consider the east Russia hence the name "eastern block" when referring to the old Soviet Union. You shound brush up on your geography so you don't come off so dumb next time.
You seem to be dumb, uneducated, and ignorant. I bet the ladies love you. Lol
Hillarysdilddo_2016 8y ago
Okay let's analyze this.
So the only way a Muslim, according to you is bagging a "white chick" is through rape.
Let's not forget how Europeans do not have the right to free speech and the state controlled media actively censors news. So if anyone is ignorant there, high probability that it is you. Your anecdotes do not matter.
QED
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
I've lived in Europe, in Germany, in Italy, in Bosnia and Croatia. Visit and have visited numerous countries as well and have currently lived for over a decade in the USA. I have experience living in Europe, interacting and working with Europeans and I have those same experiences in the USA.
Now whose opinion is more believable? The guy who has never been to Europe and rants about Europe like he's actually been there (YOU)? Or the guy who has actually lived in Europe and the USA and has experienced both perspectives? To all intelligent people on this sub the answer is obvious.
Your ignorance will be your downfall not just with women but life in general. Don't act like a victim, that's what feminists do. You are a man, act like it and take charge of life and never allow yourself to act like a victim.
dray96 8y ago
Yea everything is all fine and dandy here in [Europe] (https://youtu.be/pIB4A-468jU). By the next 1 or 2 generations these guys will be the majority of births in Europe
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
YouTube video of picked out segments vs real life experience. I'll take my real life experience. Someone could put together a highlight of the female marches lately and make it look like the USA has been taken over by women but we know that ain't the truth.
Remember the news feeds on fear and ignorant people like you who fall for it. Also your last sentence reeks of fear and stupidity. There are about 1.5-3million refugees in Europe compared to 800+ million Europeans. You are saying that within 2 generations that 3 million refugees will have conequered 800 million people?
Not only are you ignorant but you're also not very good at math or making predictions. Would love to hear your logic on that accusation but I know people like you hate facts so I doubt I'll ever hear from you again.
CUMGUZZLER_9000 8y ago
>implying the only muslims in europe are refugees
How funny that you are the one calling others idiots, ignorant and not good at math.
What fucking facts did you bring up? Everything you mentioned throughout all of your comments is just anecdotal "evidence" without any kind of backup.
Du hast in Deutschland gelebt? Zeig mir was du kannst
And stop acting so pretentious, the Internet may be a great place for people who need to pad their ego but you're just spouting anecdotes and logic that has more holes than Swiss cheese while insulting the intelligence of others and constantly emphasizing how smart and erudite you are. You are so obviously trying to feel better about yourself it's just fucking embarrassing dude. Get off the fucking internet, holy shit
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
Ja ich habt in Deutschland geleben (Frankfurt) du schweine Amerikaner!
I bet you thought you were so slick trying to test if I lived in Germany by speaking German to me. I speak 5 languages you bum. Massive fail buddy LOL. I bet this is how most of your interactions with women go. You're full of confidence and then you end up at home with your hand once again.
You're too dumb for me to invest more time in showing you how stupid you are.
Just remember I AM everything you hate, you have to spend all day in this sub to even get a look from a woman and I only have to walk in a room to be noticed by most women. You either win the generic lottery or you don't, sucks for you buddy!
CUMGUZZLER_9000 8y ago
Hahahaha nices Google Translate du Lappen. Mehr Fehler kann man in einem einzigen Satz gar nicht machen
Since I doubt you'll understand the above because you're a lying loser, thanks for giving me a good laugh. What a pathetic fucking comment.
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
Okay Mr CUMGUZZLER. I speak 5 languages, I'm superior to you in every way.
The irony here is you're using google translate hence why every sentence is so simple. Here figure this out and then figure out the other language after this, if you pass this test I'll introduce you to my other two languages.
Du bist eine Amerikanische schweine und deine mutter ist eine nutte.
Good luck you little bitch. When you're ready, bow down to me and seek forgiveness from your superior.
CUMGUZZLER_9000 8y ago
I'm a German native, but yeah whatever I guess I need Google Translate to communicate in my mother tongue.
It's been entertaining watching you embarrass yourself, but enough time wasted on this. Instead, why don't you go out and live your amazing life rather than bragging about it to strangers on the fucking internet?
I hope you will get over your insecurities. Have a nice day
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I can answer your question about where to find quality bitches by restating what should be obvious to an unplugged man who is past the anger stage.
Quality women dont exisit. When you see a quality woman, what you actually see, is a woman who is being led by a strong man.
Dont look for that which does not exist.
Instead, look for women who have potential to be molded into quality.
Submissive, from households with strong fathers, youth etc
You dont go to breeders and buy fully trained puppies do you?
Arranged marriages, dowries, and this sort of thing existed across many cultures for thousands of years.The patriarchy was effective and now is rewritten in history as a hate crime.
Yet, the history books are devoid of tales of purple haired fatties and crazy cat ladies
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What's the common factor in all of these situations? You.
Reading this subreddit is bewildering - it's post after post of people owning themselves. People who are so broken that they cannot form a meaningful connection with a member of the opposite sex. Holy moly. As a normie, it's like reading a different language almost. I recognize nothing from any of these posts.
BusenitzBoy 8y ago
Parents/friends/acquaintances: "Why don't you get a nice girl to settle down with?"
Me: "Show me one." (emphasis on "one")
IllimitableMan 8y ago
I don't see anything wrong with this to be honest. Gahahaha. She wants to be dominated in the bedroom? That's feminine as fuck. As long as she's YOUR slut rather than everyone's, who cares.
balalasaurus 8y ago
I agree with you but I think OP is approaching this from the anger/disillusionment perspective.
On the one hand he understands that this is a good thing, but on the other hand, he struggles to reconcile how this is possible given the conditioning we've all had to believe that women are these innocent little snowflakes who aren't supposed to know about such behavior.
It's a part of the unplugging process and I believe he'll figure it out for himself soon enough.
awalt_cupcake 8y ago
Since you're not lashing out at me I'll reply to you. We talk A LOT about finding sluts on this sub. How to game how to pull. We don't talk enough about finding unicorns. And when we do, it ends in speculation. "It requires a fine tuned radar." or "it comes with experience" all pixy dust and horseshit compared to the vast practical and strategic advice we have on this sub for getting a lay. Sure self improvement is there but we have no strategies for finding a Good Girl^TM.
So it makes me wonder if they're worth the time to seek that needle in the haystack or accept women were made to be whores and we were never supposed to treat them as anything more?
balalasaurus 8y ago
I spend more time on asktrp. The question of where and how to find a good girl comes up more than you'd expect. My answer is always the same: it's a waste of time.
Women will always be women. No matter how good you think you have it or how RP inclined a woman might be, her nature will always prevail. Which is why I believe seeking such a thing is an exercise in futility. In a way that "needle in the haystack" doesn't really exist and is simply another form of social conditioning.
I think it would be healthier for you to accept that. Not to say that it's easy to accept but it's just a fact. AWALT. They are whores. They want to be treated like whores. You wanting an exception to the rule does nothing to change the reality of the situation. This is especially true considering we live in an age where whoredom is encouraged.
Don't get caught up in anger or disappointment. Just enjoy the decline.
awalt_cupcake 8y ago
this is exactly how I see it.
prodigy2throw 8y ago
You guys really wanna find a proper girl? Go to whole foods at 10 AM on a Saturday. The women out doing groceries in the morning weren't out getting shitfaced the night before.
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and don't call them bitches
[deleted] 8y ago
Fair enough but can you be successful actually picking these girls up at a grocery store?
LordThunderbolt 8y ago
So thats your only way of vetting? Youre a moron. Not all sluts party.
prodigy2throw 8y ago
That's not the only way you retard. All I'm saying is your chances are better in that venue than going to a bar on a Friday night and wondering why every girl you meet is a drunk whore.
Chill with taking everything literally and maybe accept some new ideas into your brain. Or stay pussyless and keep jerking to increasingly shameful porn.
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
You're just wasting your time. Look at his post history and you'll see that this dude is a lost cause.
LordThunderbolt 8y ago
Most people here daygame I believe. Everyone knows you don't find quality girls at bars.
RetiredTimeHo 8y ago
This is the dumbest shit I ever heard.
A girl is "proper" just because she's at the store in the morning on a weekend? WTF are you people on?
prodigy2throw 8y ago
Men are talking. Go back to your MGTOW cave
IIlllIllIIIllIl 8y ago
I wake up early, and happened to go to the local coffee shop when it opened at 6am. Granted, I'm wide awake already, so I'm in there reading and whatnot surprised to find out the only people who go there that early are cute girls.
AWALT, who know how many dicks they suck, but even still the quality surprised me. I saw nine cuties to for every two dad bods before I left.
Kalidane 8y ago
I've met good girls at cafes, opening time on a Saturday morning.
Every time they were studying the night before (actual student or professional development) and had a lot of non slutty things to do that day.
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admire your thought process
supersonic-turtle 8y ago
this is a fact, not just for whole foods though either, it can be any grocery store. I have had a lot of healthy luck with Drug Emporium girls, IDK if you've heard of it but its a real hotspot.
When my Grandmother needs her scripts filled and she wants to buy some candy for the little cousins and what not, I am the first to volunteer. Granny is a wingman, use accordingly after all she is one of the only humans on earth who wants you to get laid.
AshyBoneVR4 8y ago
Best damn advice I've ever seen in this sub.
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voomer53 8y ago
(the hell am I gonna do at my little cousin's dance recital?)
You're gonna be stuck there till it's over no matter what. Is it really worth it?
Macheako 8y ago
Then you risk the chance a meetin a "Career Bitch" :/ Can't win with these hos.
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blackballed_ 8y ago
Dude I'm just saying, I wake up dumb early and get food first thing if I was fucked up the night before. Its just SOP, get the hangover/"party" out of your day and the 23 other hours you've got left go so much smoother.
Am known to walk into the store and load up for the week, or squad up and hit the diner, while still smashed from the night before too. Winds up being a bi-weekly occurance, and doesn't hold us back any. Don't paint a turd, dude. Whole foods hipster/valley girls are just as quick as the others to cut if you aren't retarded.
AWALT. If you have a good time and work your scene, they'll warm up in a heartbeat.
randarrow 8y ago
No, they're on so many stimulants they can't sleep, and are either stay at home moms or unemployed losers.
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prodigy2throw 8y ago
Cool. Goood luck getting through life with that retarded thinking in your head
dancingkungfy 8y ago
True. But what if they were getting ganngbanged the night before going to Whole Foods? That's a real scenario.
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whuttupfoo 8y ago
Not true. I've had FWBs with intense party lifestyles that would never wake up later than 10, and would be doing all types of productive activities.
prodigy2throw 8y ago
Yes, there are probably some women who get up after 4 hours of sleep hungover from the night before and decide to go do groceries.
If you can't tell the one gutter slut fighting a hangover at the vegetable aisle from the proper girls who wakes up early you should probably kill yourself
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or go to the gym in the AM on weekends. Same process
twatbutters 8y ago
Strongly disagree. Some of the nastiest hoes I've seen go to the gym in the morning. Just because they don't get shitfaced the night before doesn't mean that they aren't promiscuous.
askmrcia 8y ago
When it comes to gym girls, I split them up. If the girl is actually working out (weight lifting and stuff) then chances are those girls are't out partying and sleeping around.
Now if we are talking about the women that go to the gym and go on the treadmills for 2hrs and do some light ab work for 3mins then yea, you want to avoid those.
pandaholic23 8y ago
Huh? Why what's the difference?
askmrcia 8y ago
There's a difference. You have women that go to the gym and BS around just to say they go to the gym. They are not in there actually working out or getting in better shape. More so just to maintain their figures. But they are just BSing around. You know being on the treadmills at slowest speeds, not picking up any weights, ect...
Then you have other women that go that actually take it seriously. Like doing actual workouts, eating the right stuff, getting the right amount of sleep.
The former are the ones you want to avoid. The latter are the ones who tend to take better care of themselves and are less likely to be drinking and sleeping around with tons of guys.
RPDrogan 8y ago
Here's a thought.
Maybe you keep getting slutty girls because those are the type of girls willing to fuck you. Maybe your SMV isn't high enough. Maybe you don't exhibit the type of aura or behavior that non slutty girls are looking for.
But to imply that all women are like this is just an excuse you tell yourself. There are 3.5 billion women on this planet. Let's assume that at least 50 million of them are fuckable. What do you think is more likely? That there isn't a single girl out of 50 million that isn't a slut? Or that the girls you're looking for aren't attracted to you?
Sometimes you need a reality check. This is yours. Feel free to downvote me but if every single woman willing to sleep with you isn't fitting your standards, maybe it's because you don't fit the standards of the women you're looking for. Improve yourself for the purpose of bettering yourself and you might find what you're looking for.
awalt_cupcake 8y ago
It's either that or clingers
wanderer779 8y ago
it is probably tougher than it used to be. But I think quality women are still out there. I think I have seen some, but to be fair I don't really know them and they may have been huge sluts in the past.
Being realistic, I think you have to accept that if you want a LTR, she's probably going to have at least a bit of sluttiness in her past. You can try to do detective work, but women aren't stupid and they know what you are doing, and they lie. So my thinking is to either forget about ltr's and having a family, or accept that it will probably have to be done with a girl who has some miles on her. No matter what you do LTRs are a big gamble with fairly poor odds.
RedMoonAscendant 8y ago
I looked for quality women on West Coast USA for 15-20 years and never found anything. Went to the Asias and found someone who's remained pretty good for 5 years, but the USA culture is starting to convert her.
I think men will never find quality women unless we band together and force society to change so that good women are rewarded and bad women punished. Until we do that, we will continue to get gold digging sluts.
DaBaulz 8y ago
What's wrong with a girl who likes to be tied up? Also with a girl who gives BJ's. I understand that you want a low f number, but did we all turn into Mormons too?
Is your concern that they won't be faithful or that they have history? As you get older it will be hard to find someone who has no history. I imagine you will have one too. This is something you will have to get over.
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
There's nothing wrong with either, OP is just a miserable dude who probably has terrible game and thus moans about women online.
awalt_cupcake 8y ago
no one said this was a bad thing. I love going balls deep in these hoes. Tied up. Gagged. Blind folded. Over a couch. In the next room. It's all good.
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
I'm willing to bet a large amount you've never done any of those.
awalt_cupcake 8y ago
I've done all of these. Cough up your cash. I accept paypal.
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
You could've simply said "I've been with freaky women" but instead you listed a bunch of sex acts to display to us how experienced you are right? Only someone insecure would list things like "over a couch". I'm sure you've fooled some people on here but there are plenty of people on here who are intelligent and can read through your BS.
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snakehayter 8y ago
Its only a problem if OP wants an ltr. Scientifically its been proven that the more partners a woman sleeps with, the more damaged her ability to pair bond becomes, thus preventing her from ever settling down.
Phoenixtorment 8y ago
I'v read this several times on this forum, but I can't seem to find any sources to this, except for some divorce rate increase - which doesn't say much about actual pair bonding.
decimated_napkin 8y ago
This is the study they are talking about: https://ifstudies.org/blog/counterintuitive-trends-in-the-link-between-premarital-sex-and-marital-stability/
The funny thing is that everyone on TRP quotes it, but almost nobody seems to have read the author's conclusions. The authors states that predicting the likelihood of divorce is a complex issue wherein number of partners is only one correlated variable that may very well be spurious (for instance, step-parenting is also correlated with number of sex partners to some degree, and step-parenting has drastically high divorce rates). He goes on to say that nothing is conclusive and that his work has raised more questions than it answers. But you know, fuck that, AWALT
snakehayter 8y ago
I linked to some statistics but for some reason TRP removed my comment.
I suggest looking on CDC.Gov. They have data showing that women who have had 20 or more partners are pretty much 100% likely to not settle down.
You also have to look at other factors like how come millennials are settling down at extremely low rate in the same era as the hookup culture?
radioactivities9 8y ago
Oh that sounds really ominous. You're taking way more out of that data then is there. No one should believe anything is 'scientifically proven' unless it's elemental facts.
I get it, people are afraid, they want to find ways to avoid what they fear and replace it with the idea that something can be done about it (whether it's your lover's betrayal or a shark attack)
but who wants to make fear-based decisions and is adopting fear-based beliefs good for anyone, especially men...
snakehayter 8y ago
If what I said was wrong, this entire community wouldn't exist.
radioactivities9 8y ago
This community isn't scientific evidence for anything.
I'm not sure if it is in male or female best interest for people to pair-bond easily through sex. for one reason, that could just as easily result in future divorce. It can make a bond seem stronger than it is.
The correlation of repeated partners w/ pair-bonding ability, that really just gives the illusion of causality. Illusion.
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awalt_cupcake 8y ago
If you went sky diving and they said 3 out of 4 parachutes fail, would you still jump?
Dumbass.
radioactivities9 8y ago
If you had an intellect, maybe you could make a proper analogy. Clearly, if you're already on the plane and they tell you that, they're messing with your head -but people like you believe anything you hear if it involves risk!
awalt_cupcake 8y ago
what the fuck are you rambling about. Your hamster is on fire.
radioactivities9 8y ago
Hamster's long dead. Just grinding gears left.
Appleseed12333 8y ago
You're not funny, troll in more unique ways, or the ban hammer will come even sooner. As with everyone, we like being entertained.
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This idea that there's a mythical woman out there who is a "classy girl" among a sea of whores is a very romantic (re: stupid) notion which has no real place here. The rest of Reddit exists for that.
TRP exists to dispel this notion and replace it with hard fact. TRP is a catalog of the behaviors, experiences, and idiosyncrasies which expose the aforementioned notion as a grand deception. I don't know why we're seeing this blue pill ideology upheld, as you say. That old world marriage, and its byproduct -- a market for chaste and loyal women -- is gone, and in its stead are Amy Schumers and Meghan Trainors looking to make their "next mistake" before or after getting married to a NuMale? That's lamentable. To suggest that those chaste and loyal women still exist in this age of rampant hedonism, promiscuity, and patient zeros is irresponsible bordering on idiotic.
2weird2care 8y ago
Hard fact?
What are the statistics? What is the likelyhood a girl won't be a slut?
blackedoutfast 8y ago
there are quality women out there. very attractive, virgin or low n-count, fun (but not slutty), stable traditional family, etc.
they aren't all found in one place. there's not a secret bar where all the virgin unicorns hang out. no matter where you are the good girls are evenly distributed among all the crazy party sluts. there are CC-riders sitting in church every single sunday and sweet little virgins who like to go out and dance in clubs every weekend.
but one thing is absolutely true and universal: if you're not a top tier, high quality man, then you shouldn't feel entitled to these high-quality girls. insecure guys, guys still stuck in the anger phase, guys who still haven't gotten their shit together, guys with no social status and no social skills, guys with no game, guys who don't exercise and sit around bitching about women on the internet - if you're one of those guys and you do happen to cross paths with a quality girl, you don't have a shot in hell. at least sluts are fun to fuck. a low-value, bitter, insecure man is about as unattractive as it gets.
so until you reach that top tier of male SMV, you shouldn't whine about the lack of quality women. a fucking loser of a man whining about not being able to find virgin unicorns is just as ridiculous as the dumpy, post-wall CC-riders asking where are all the good men.
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RobertCarraway 8y ago
God, but somehow he still has a point
JDiculous 8y ago
Seriously? This post is garbage and adds absolutely nothing of value. If you guys want this shit taken seriously, then stop posting these juvenile whining rants.
Yes, and your sole objective is to lock down the most physically attractive woman you can who isn't a psychopath. We're biologically whores too.
We get it, you're jaded. First step is to fix your attitude, get out of this victim mentality, and start working on finding a solution given the cards you've been dealt. Believe it or not there are still quality women out there and they're not all hopping between millionaires. They're probably just not going for you because 1. you're not meeting them (hint: you prob won't find them on Tinder and/or at bars/clubs) 2. your value/game isn't high enough.
awalt_cupcake 8y ago
I like how emotionally righteous you got
whyalwaysm3 8y ago
He's right but you don't see it because you're an idiot. Not your fault buddy, most stupid people don't even know they're stupid.
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ChristmasTreeFarmer 8y ago
Quote from u/ivancto on his altright subreddits.
White people don't gain anything from helping blacks, they can only lose. Whites are superior to blacks and shouldn't think in terms of being "the good guy". We aren't equal, and the fact that they are treated as equal makes me sick.
DukeofSaxony 8y ago
You don't find good women, good women find you.
Be successful in your vocation, have passions and interesting hobbies, network, travel, and good quality women will find you.
If you're in you're 20's, invest in yourself. A quality women will want a man of equal or better status. Accordingly, most quality women are already in relationships with high SMV men (they've married young to a man in his 30's who has his shit together).
GunsGermsAndSteel 8y ago
While there's no such thing as a perfect 10 on any level, there are women who are on the low end of the "AWALT" spectrum.
Finding them requires a specially tuned radar: is she asking a million questions about your resources? Is she unwilling to leave her phone in the same room with you? Are most of her friends male? Does she smoke cigarettes or drink? If yes to any of these, be aware that she may be of low quality.
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LordThunderbolt 8y ago
She ghosted u because she really likes u and doesn't want to be stick by burrying her feelings when she's around u. It's called moving on. It's not that she used u bro.
bsutansalt 8y ago
Briffault's Law mixed with "woman scorned".
Hillarysdilddo_2016 8y ago
The person who steals 1 million is genius. The person who steals 1 dollar is stupid.
Hillarysdilddo_2016 8y ago
The person who steals 1 million is genius. The person who steals 1 dollar is stupid.
Sdom1 8y ago
Wait up, you stepped into this girl's life when she had no men in her life in any capacity and filled that role, and you were surprised that she fell in love with you? And further, when you rejected her she was a bad person for moving on? If we reversed the roles here everybody on TRP would be telling you to do what she did.
supersonic-turtle 8y ago
I like your study but honestly I like the fact that it comes easy. My pops always says "if it comes easy get it once, if it comes too easy dont try it at all"
Also lets be real here, not all women are the same... its so easy to wrap them all into a nice sushi roll and cut out perfect one inch bites but its a lot more complicated than that. If I was to speak my mind which I am, I would say this post is a diatribe of some guy who mediocred red pill ideology and failed so he's still in the niceguy blue zone somewhat.
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You don't find them. If you do then you better play the lottery because it's fucking rare.
I have a girl right now (23) who's well off. Cuban jew, good family, graduate student and into all the shit I'm into. I thought she was a unicorn but it turns out she's sucked more dick than the 35 year old I'm seeing. Debating whether or not I'm going to cut ties but she's a fucking expert so I don't think I can do it yet.
Abadalt 8y ago
I think it's neat that a comment I made created further discussion within the RP community. Thanks for the love
Rushed77 8y ago
Well obviously you don't lay the pipe well otherwise she'd stick Armenians. And learn some respect you sound like the gutter trash.
RyanMAGA 8y ago
Library school. Seriously, that's where they are hiding. I found one on OkCupid and my alpha friend snagged one too (he met her in a different venue). Elite librarians are the female equivalent of top computer programmers. Here is the map of all library schools:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=105865627555958965474.000449740ea1f057a8b91&ll=41.508577,-93.515625&spn=89.94393,163.125&z=3
hyugafan 8y ago
That's rich, I'm stealing that one. That said, I don't agree. If "quality women" don't exist, it's because you haven't attracted her. Remember, they can be trained. Red pil LTRs are possible, they're just very hard to maintain.
LordThunderbolt 8y ago
U half slip up once and to the carousel she goes. Stop thinking you're hot shit who has a premium radar for good chicks and that you're the Chad of Chad's, they're all thots. Proceed accordingly.
paceyboy 8y ago
You must realize the power of AWALT and high SMV. This shit is chess, not checkers. From a saved thread a year back I was touching up on last night, I bring you this analogy.
Women are like dogs chasing cars. They wouldn't know what to do if they caught one. You could park the car right next to them, toss them the keys and say here ya go, this is all yours. They would just piss on it and trot off. That's why the chase is so important and why you must practice dread game to create tension and arousal. They want high SMV to chase and you must bring them into your frame.
bsutansalt 8y ago
That's high level "cat string theory" right out of the Mystery Method.
awalt_cupcake 8y ago
this makes too much fucking sense
JSizzl3 8y ago
The so-called "quality women" you seek are very much aware of The Game, and have at this point taken advantage of it to secure their optimal Alphas; in other words, all the "quality women" have been "snatched up" before you (we) could get to them, and all that's left are whatever's left. You said it yourself u/awalt_cupcake, you plated her. As her n-count grew before your eyes you should have realized that she simultaneously plated you as part of her journey to find her optimal Alpha.
A unicorn is a mythical beast with no physical evidence of ever having existed on this planet. If you actually find one, you should check for tape or glue.
BlackJ1 8y ago
What makes you think this? To be clear, when we are talking about "quality women", we are talking about a woman who is family orientated, feminine, submissive, faithful, attractive, and low n count/virgin right?
Yeah finding a woman with all the above traits is like trying to find a unicorn, however finding a woman with ATLEAST three of those traits is not difficult nor have they been "snatched up" before we could get to them.
JSizzl3 8y ago
Depending where one lives some majority of "quality women" are already in LTRs. They had to play the game in order to be seen as LTR material rather than be perpetually single into their 30s+. They knew that being some combination of attractive, submissive, faithful, etc. would increase their chances of being claimed by someone who saw them as valuable, which also gives them more opportunities to branch-swing should they feel the need.
How many single girls you know have any 3 of those traits u/BlackJ1? Actually how many in relationships have at least 3 of those traits? It's not quite trying to fish in a desert but it's no cake walk either.
nonthaki 8y ago
Its because they want attention. Thats why they like being Gangbanged , creampied and Bdsm, even being raped. And also as you said , because They can fuck a lot of guys. They are still young and attractive .
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JFMX1996 8y ago
I've met some in those extremely hard-line non-denominational churches.
Girls are submissive, wear veils, respect men, don't wear makeup and wear their hair long and surprisingly look more attractive.
They share the belief the body is a temple for the holy spirit, and that it is only a shell being borrowed so one must take care of it and in turn workout and eat pretty healthy and get good physiques.
These are rare and a lot of guys get straight shot the hell down (though with kindness).
You have a point about most church girls though. Modern churches just tell people what they want to hear and have this "Don't judge!" attitude, though you are supposed to judge righteously.
If you're into that, check out Dalrock from the sidebar, he writes pretty well on the subject of churchianity.
It's a hard truth to swallow but I feel my brothers can be saved from wanting to jump off a cliff if they don't buy into these delusions that church girls are some kinds of unicorns.
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Venicedreaming 8y ago
Foreign women, check them out, most are still virgins
DarkRenaissance 8y ago
Saving this man. Thanks a ton for writing it. A lot of blue shit coming lately, needed this. Pure, unfiltered truth. A lot of people will be saying that this is not the truth, but I'll believe that only if I see an EC, SE or Vanguard confirm it.
kooshi84 8y ago
They'll come out of hiding when you lose your little bitch attitude.
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lillillillillillilli 8y ago
No way, man. This is nuts. Hoes are still gonna ho without birth control. You'll just end up with life-threatening, at-home abortions or kids being raised in shitty conditions with the dude paying child support. The social stigma of being a single mother is all-but-gone at this point. Birth control is merely a bandaid to reduce childhood poverty, not the actual cause of hoes being hoes. The stocial stigma of hookup culture is gone, women crave attention, and most guys will fuck anything that consents.
Venicedreaming 8y ago
Married women need to use birth control the most dude. Long gone is the age of popping out 13 kids. Imagine you get married, would you really want your wife to not have access to contraception and get pregnant all the time?
JunkyardSam 8y ago
They exist, man. Coming up on 10 years married. 3 perfect kids and another on the way. Both parties in this relationship do their part... things are good.
Rare to find but maybe look at a different type of girl and be sure you're worth it yourself, etc.
LordThunderbolt 8y ago
One is cheating behind the other's back. Stop believing in fairy tales.
JunkyardSam 8y ago
It's amazing how jaded many people at this forum are. You know, it's possible for TRP principles to be real and find a good relationship.
Why would either of us cheat? We're partners in life and between our house and our kids we have plenty to do together. 10 years in and things are better now than ever, and now we're at an age where -- why would we even look elsewhere? I'd bore you if I spelled out the specifics... But we're happy. Things are good.
Don't you want to create a successful family and legacy someday? That's unlikely to happen with a jaded TRP mindset. It's better to take an evolved TRP mindset where you realize male/female roles and find a partner in life where both sides make the other stronger.
My wife homeschools our children and handles our home life outside of my work so I can focus on my career. Together we'll raise kids that do even better than we've done... and our kids will pass down our strong family values to their kids just like I did from my parents (who are still married and happy together, and they are in their last segment of life.)
Use the good side of TRP. Don't get jaded and lose hope. Good relationships and strong families do exist.
LordThunderbolt 8y ago
YOURE happy with how things are. Unless you're Professor X you cane know what she's thinking. She could be a stay at home mom who goes to church all the time and still cheat. When we say AWALT we really mean it. You don't know what she's up to by the second and u sure as he'll can't read her mind. Thinking everything is all good will make ur fall even harder.
That fantasy u played out is all nice. I do think about starting a family with a girl and prosper, but then I'm reminded that these hoes just ain't loyal. No matter how good u think u have it, you're not special, and she will cheat when it damn well pleases her and you may never find out until waaaay later.
There was a story about this old dude who divorced his wife of 50+ years at 92 years old or something like that. He divorced her because she finally admitted it years later after over 4 decades of hiding it. Clearly he believed everything was all and well since he stated married that long. But the truth revealed itself and he packed his bags with all his pride.
Now u go out there thinking you're the supreme man of men and that your judgement is flawless and that you found your magical unicorn somehow in a sea of lhoes and thotties. Go out there thinking everything is perfect. When u do find out about the nasty, your fall will be that much greater. It's better to expect and prepare for the worse and be surprised when it never happens, than to go around thinking AWALT doesn't apply to the girl you chose and end up finding the horrible shit she's done behind your back.
I'm just a lot more realistic and honest with myself. The only way to guarantee you're in the clear is to live in a remote area or on farm where there isn't much contact with society and other people.
J_AsapGem 8y ago
we all know unicorns don't exist but they are some women with morals ( we get it though AWALT ), some are less hypergamous than others.
Pastelitomaracucho 8y ago
I have been with amazing women since I was a teenager.
I personally don't know what are you talking about.
LordThunderbolt 8y ago
And yet here u are, on an internet forum trying to find the nature of women and how to get them. The only reality in which what u said is an absolute truth is the one where you and one of those "amazing" women are together for years on end and have kids already at this point.
Congratulations, u played yourself.
Pastelitomaracucho 8y ago
Where did you draw that conclusion from?
Fuck no. That is simply not my objective with women, nor it is my standard to assess the quality of a woman.
bsutansalt 8y ago
You need to first define "quality". What exactly is a quality woman in your opinion?
Natural_RP 8y ago
They don't exist. I have "dated..." ahem a lot of women. I found one girl that was probably an actual unicorn and only then because she accepted the training I gave her.
There was a second but she was only so great because her dad was a CEO and this girl was basically bred and train from birth for success. Also not as hot as the first one though probably a solid 7.5
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Is this the male version of 'where's all the good men gone?'
Jokes apart, if you can't fight them, join them(in the bed).
The implications for the future is sad indeed but then nobody cares, so why do we care?
billsmashole 8y ago
I may not like the fact that women fuck every guy they want, but it's hypocritical of many in this sub for giving them shit about it. Most men here, if we are honest with ourselves, want to screw as many hot women as we can. Maybe some want a LTR with a loyal woman. But it's hard to judge a woman wanting to get laid a lot when I want the same thing.
FirstmateJibbs 8y ago
Lol. This is utter nonsense.
shadowq8 8y ago
Arab here, while there are some promiscuous women around, a lot of people still do raise there girls right and you can marry someone who is a virgin.
LordThunderbolt 8y ago
No matter how good you raise a chick, she still makes her own decisions at the end of the day. Her thotty friends and the culture influences them.