I've seen a lot of posts on TRP and askTRP about lifting and why it's important but I have not seen anything on how to actually develop a program with goals in mind for your current level. I've taken a lot from this sub and I have benefited tremendously so this will be my attempt at giving back to the community. Also, I know their are fitness subs but I don't know how many subscribers visit those subs as I don't.
Disclaimer: I am not a personal trainer and don't have any related degrees. Most of what follows is procured from "Practical Programming" by Mark Rippetoe and Lon Kilgore. The book goes into great depth about the fundamentals for you to develop your own program while providing several example routines depending on your lifting experience (as determined by the amount of time it takes to recover from homeostatic disruption induced from lifting). For the sake brevity, I will provide an overview of key points so I highly suggest picking up the book for a greater analysis (although it can be found online, support the author).
Foundation:
To begin, there are two important factors to keep in mind when programming: (1) your level of experience, i.e., novice, intermediate, advanced, or elite; and (2) your goal, e.g., mass, strength, speed, or power. Note that a novice's goal will be limited by their experience, which will be discussed infra.
The authors provide a nifty chart (which can also be found online: http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.htm) to help determine a person's experience level based on the weight they can lift for a particular exercise, e.g., squat, in relation to their body weight ("bw").
Under the single-factor model of training, there are three routes a training program can take, only one being beneficial. See Selye's Theory on General Adaption Syndrome.
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Too little stress (no progress) - No disruption to homeostasis > no adaption > no performance gain
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Appropriate stress (progress) - Disruption of homeostasis > favorable adaption > performance gain
- Too much stress (loss of progress) - Disruption of homeostasis > adaptive capacity overwhelmed > performance loss, i.e., overtraining.
What is required for the disruption in homeostasis is an overload--the magnitude of work required to cause an adaption to spur progress--and in order to benefit from this overload, adequate time for recovery is necessary. Without sufficient time to recover, a trainee may overtrain causing regression.
There are three stages of overtraining:
(1) Fatigue - a reduction of the force-production capacity of a muscle.
(2) Overreaching - the cumulative effects of a series of workouts characterized by a short-term decrease in performance, feelings of fatigue, depressed mood, pain, sleep disturbances and other effects that require up to two weeks to recover from. May also, in the short-term, decrease testosterone and increase cortisol.
Note: fatigue and overreaching are good for the trainee as it causes a disruption in homeostasis and easily recovered from. A novice trainee on the right program won't feel the effects of either since recovery is rapid, and these two stages of overtraining are planned for in intermediate and advanced training programs (disruption is necessary for growth).
(3) Overtraining - the cumulative result of relentless high-volume or high-intensity training without sufficient recovery that results in the exhaustion of the body's ability to recover and adapt. Overtraining occurs when performance does not recover within one reduced-load training cycle. This is what you don't want.
Without getting into details, recovery requires adequate sleep, hydration, protein, calories, vitamins and minerals, and fatty acids.
Training Goals:
Strength - measurement of the ability of a muscle to exert force.
Speed - amount of time it takes an object to move a given distance.
Power - ability to exert force rapidly (how heavy and how fast?).
Mass - hypertrophy and size (strength is also increased as a result--bigger muscles mean more efficient leverage).
Program Basics:
Repetitions - a repetition scheme should be designed for achieving specific goals because different reps produce different adaptions.
(a) Strength - lower reps with heavy weights (e.g., 1-3 reps at 90-100% of 1 rep max ("RM").
(b) Hypertrophy - high reps with less weight (e.g., 8-12 reps at 65-80% 1RM)
(c) Power - moderate reps performed at max velocity (e.g., 3-5 reps at max velocity with loads of 50-75% 1RM).
Sets - Work sets should be designed to produce a specific result and achieve a training objective. Multiple sets are required and depends on the trainees level of experience and rep scheme used, e.g., 5x5, 5x10, 8x3. Sets can be progressive (increasing in weight every set) or sets across (weight staying the same). Warm-up sets are light and integral preparatory work prior to the work sets. They prepare the tissue and motor pathway for the work sets, and as such, they should not fatigue or interfere with work sets.
Rest - Varies with the goal of training. Strength training requires greater of rest 3-7 minutes depending on factors such as, intensity, fatigue, injury status, etc. for adequate recovery to complete each set. For hypertrophy, rests should be around 45 seconds. There is is an apparent correlation between lactic acid production from resistance training, hormonal status and increases in muscle mass, and the shorter rest is best for maintaining this relationship. Note that very little to no rest is needed between warm-up sets as they should not be producing any fatigue and are designed to facilitate the work sets.
Frequency of workouts depends on level of ability, fitness, time constraints, motivation, body weight, and goals. Compare full body and split routine programs.
Exercise Selection - The most important consideration should be the functional application of an exercise to the training objective. Exercises that are virtually applicable to all goals: squat, press, deadlift, bench, clean/power clean, jerk, snatch/power snatch, chins or pull-ups.
Do the most important exercises first, and as a general rule, the most technical exercises. Important is relative and will depend on your level of experience and goals. On a training day, a novice should always squat first as the primary concern is basic strength. Assistance exercises are always done after the major compound lifts. Intermediate and advanced lifters will have specific goals in mind and will plan lifts accordingly. For example, if power is the goal, the Olympic lifts will be performed first.
Experience Levels:
The Novice: Because this trainee lifts weights that are light relative to his genetic potential for strength and power, the rate of recovery following a training session is rapid. This trainee recovers within 24-72 hours of a training session. In other words, this trainee can lift heavy on Monday and be ready to lift heavy again on Wednesday. Massive size gains won't be attained at this level as most of the adaption is neurological rather than muscular: your body becomes more efficient at firing and recruiting neurons associated with the lift. The programming for a novice trainee is linear progression.
Examples - Starting Strength and Strong Lifts 5x5. Both programs follow a linear progression as weights are increased work out to workout (I won't go into detail about these two particular programs as a plethora of information can be found online and in their respective books). This is also why the goal for a novice trainee is limited. Because progress is made rapidly, the trainee will see gains in size, strength, and power.
The Intermediate: This is where a trainee can begin to pick and choose exercises and goals. For example, a judo practitioner would incorporate cleans, snatches, and speed sets into his program to develop power and explosiveness whereas a person looking to put on size will probable do a split routine focusing on hypertrophy. This trainee continues with a linear progression program; however, it is no longer workout to workout, the progress is weekly. At this stage, the trainee begins to walk the line of training and over training as enough work has to be done to cause a disruption in homeostasis with sufficient time to recover.
Examples - Madecow 5x5, The Starr Model, The Split Routine, and The Texas Method. As an example I will discuss The Texas Method because it's the program I used, which involves a volume day on Mondays, a light day on Wednesdays, and an intensity day on Fridays. The progression remains linear in that progress is made Monday to Monday and Friday to Friday. In other words, when all the prescribed sets and reps on Monday are accomplished, the weights for the following Monday are increased. There is a lot of play with this program, Mondays can be 5x5 (5 sets of 5 reps), 5x10, 4x6, 8x3, etc. and Friday's work outs can be 1x5, 1x3, 1x2, 1x1, speed sets, etc. as long as volume is the focus on Monday and intensity is the focus on Friday. Progress on a program such as this can last for a while.
Advanced: A trainee can be considered advanced when weekly progress is no longer made. At this level, a disruption and the subsequent recovery can take greater than a month (the training load to produce adaption is high and the time to recover from said adaption is also longer). The trainee has stepped into the realm of periodization, no longer does a day off (The Notice) or several days off (The Intermediate) become sufficient to recover from a disruption in homeostasis. At this point, a couple weeks of decreased load in volume is required to dissipate fatigue.
Examples - The Pyramid Model and Stronglifts Advanced. Stronglifts Advanced is the program I used and is a 9 week program. Weeks 1-4 involve Mondays that are 5x5, Wednesdays that are a light day, and Fridays that are 1x5. The weight increases week to week: (1) week 1 is 80% of the respective rep scheme of Monday and Friday; (2) week 2 is 90%; (3) week 3 is 100%; and (4) week 4 is a 105%. Week 5 is a deload by repeating the weight in week 4 with the rep schemes of 3x3 instead of 5x5 and 1x3 instead of 1x5. Week 6-9 are the same as weeks 1-4. Weight increases weekly but the rep schemes are 3x3 on Mondays and 1x3 on Fridays with no squats on Wednesdays. There is more to this program but this is the basic idea of periodization at this level. The disruption in homeostasis is built up over several weeks with a planned deload to allow the trainee to recover. Progress is now seen after a monthly cycle.
Elite: Genetic monsters. Very few individuals make it this far, and make no mistake, they make social and physical sacrifices to make it here. These individuals periodize their workouts just like the advanced lifters but the line between training over training is exceptionally fine. Greater program complexity with increased variables are required to squeeze out the last bit of their genetic potential.
Examples - These individuals are at the top of their sport and fine tune their programs for their individual goals with competitions in mind. In addition, many of these lifters have coaches who oversee their programs so you won't find boilerplate programs at this level of training (coaches benefit all level of trainees). At this level, a trainee knows their body well and has enough knowledge at this point to develop your own program (i.e., do they respond better to volume or intensity, how long is recovery from fatigue, etc.). An example, my buddy is an competitive Oly lifter and back squats 495 at a bw of 185 A2G raw, he designs his own program and has a coach.
TL;DR: There are 2 things to keep in mind when designing a program: your experience and your goals. There are many variables that go into designing a program such as exercises, frequency, rest, rep and set schemes. Nutrition and sleep are integral. Don't overtrain, and design a program with your level of experience and ability in mind to maximize gains.
(If there is enough demand, I can go into greater depth for the Novice, Intermediate, and Advanced lifting programs that I briefly discussed).

Theunforgiven193 9y ago
Where would coolcicada's ppl routine be?
I'm currently doing a modified version. Can you give me some feedback. I am halfway being a novice according to your source. At least I think cause I never do 1rm tests.
Push
Pull
Legs
I alternate a month of 10 reps each set with a month of 5 reps each set.
I do 3 sets each exercise
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Imarobot2 9y ago
I'm not familiar with the program so I can't really say. But if the program calls for progress (increasing weights) workout to workout then it's probably a novice program. If it's week to week more likely an intermediate program.
Also, if your numbers aren't near the intermediate numbers on the source there's a very good chance you'll continue to see rapid progression. The only issue is whether the routine maximizes the novices ability to rapidly recover (novices should be able to increase weight work out to workout).
fitGautama 9y ago
Great in-depth post. We need more of these to foster a healthy lifting culture.
SadJoblessDoge 9y ago
I really value your post because when i wanted to start lifting, my main problem was that i did not know what excercises to do, how many of them, how often etc etc. Your post covers most of these topics and i'm sure many will find it valuable. I agree with most of your points but disagree with some. Let me adress these issues
Firstly, there is no scientific evidence of "too long" rest impacting your workout in negative way. Of course it should be around 1-2,5 minutes but if you overloaded yourself sometimes you may need more. It's personal preference really. You shouldn't also "count the rhytm" during an excercise. It only makes it harder for you to focus on the proper technique of the excercise.
Secondly, for begginers i advise FBW (FullBodyWorkout) 3 times a week. You can do it whenever you want, but remeber to have at least 48h rest between sessions. <Monday - Wednsday - Friday for example>. When you get more advanced <let's say in 9 months if you don't skip trainings which you shouldn't do> you can start training separate parts of muscles, and since you don't exhaust your leg muscles on Chest day, the next day you can go and do Leg day. (Many argue about what is more effective for begginers Split or FBW, and this is my personal opinion so if you think one works better than the other for you, go ahead)
Thirdly - remember "less is more". Its better to do 8 series of 3 repetitions than 3 series of 8 repetitions. Many prefer to disregard this because it takes a longer time to do 8 series than 3 of them. Don't.
Moreover - don't be crazy about your weights. There is nothing wrong with starting with just an empty bar. Since you're begginers the weights will skyrocket for the first months. Some can increase their weights 15-20 lbs a training at the beginning ( though it requires some genetic traits that most of us don't possess). The more you lift the harder a progress becomes.
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shipintbrief 9y ago
Even though bar workouts are not technically «lifting» when you train this way — 5 minutes breaks between sets sometimes are appropriate.
Imarobot2 9y ago
Although I don't mention it above, Rest can be too long if your muscles actually cool down and are no longer primed for a work set.
I agree, a novice will see better progress on a full body workout (although a novice will see progress on any type really). Stronglifts and starting strength are both full body.
On your third point, those repetition schemes have different goals--3x8 is more hypertrophy and 8x3 is strength training. It also depends on your level of experience. For example, 3 sets of 10 may be sufficient for a novice to create a disruption but an advanced lifter may need lifter may need to do 5 sets of 10. Of course there are many other variables to consider.
Yes, don't be embarrassed doing lighter weights. Everyone has to start somewhere. Keep your ego in check.
SadJoblessDoge 9y ago
Exactly. You clearly know what you're talking about
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vagbutters 9y ago
I always advise people to create a meal plan and to cook ahead of time so that they don't deviate from their diets. Some people have an easier time eating fish, or stews, or grilled chicken breasts, or grilled chicken thighs, etc. The point is, make sure your macros add up, and make sure you're eating shit that you can sustain yourself on. This is important in losing weight because you don't want to relapse back into your shitty junk food habits, and important in bulking so that you don't get fat while you're trying to build muscle.
Imarobot2 9y ago
Agree. Supplements are exactly that, a supplement to your diet. Abs are made in the kitchen.
bearze 9y ago
I'm 23 and started working out at about 16/17, I got gains but never saw large progress until I got my diet in check.
What you're saying is 100% true, I took it one step at a time as I got better. First, protein. What meals/food do my parents bring home that has protein, what should I have for breakfast, how can I hit 1g of protein a day, etc.
From there I went on to finding the best foods calorie wise with protein, and so on. One step at a time.
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RedPillRedemption 9y ago
I'm having difficulties squatting (bad ankle flexibility) and I have to widen a little bit my instance (instead of the neutral instance usually adviced).
How can I find my ideal form? I'm overweight and stretch daily even when I don't lift and I don't have good gyms around that can oversee my form properly.
desno 9y ago
check out omarisuf on youtube for help on squat form and ankle mobility
Bargroth 9y ago
Do whatever helps you hit depth with minimal buttwink. Make sure the femurs are parallel to the floor. Use hip drive to squat. Think of moving the hips up and down. Not front and back.
Don't let your knees cave in. Try to show off your dick when you squat.
Returnofthemack3 9y ago
Having a wide stance in a squat isn't usually that big a deal.
Imarobot2 9y ago
Check out the book Starting Strength, there is a chapter on the squat. For the normal stance, heels should be about shoulder width and toes pointed out at about 30 degrees. Most people usually have to narrow a stance.
"Excessive width tightens the hips at the bottom, and excessive narrowness prevents adductor stretch and causes the quads to jam against the belly in heavier trainees, both of which prevent proper depth." Page 13, Starting Strength, 2nd Edition.
Your ideal form is ultimately going to be what allows you to reach the proper depth of the squat. You're going to have to experiment with the stance width and the angle of your feet, 30-45 degrees.
Also, practice the movement with no bar or weight. This will help you find a comfortable position and also stretch you out for the actual lift.
xddm2653 9y ago
hey man, have you ever injured yourself squatting?
Imarobot2 9y ago
Not an injury from squatting, but I do have a tight groin which gets aggravated if I do begin to overtrain. So I try to stay conscious of that. A light week of squatting usually does the trick though.
RedPillRedemption 9y ago
I actually read the whole squat section, but I can't reproduce the ideal instance that the author describes, thus my adaptation.
But I don't have anyone to ask if it's proper or not in terms of propensity to injury. I can break parallel with my current form.
Swallowed_the_pill 9y ago
It takes a bit of time. I do dynamic warm ups before every session, including squatting with a rubber band around my legs, sitting in a squat as deep as possible while slightly pushing my knees out with my elbows and doing lunges twisting towards my body at the bottom. I do some more as well, but these help open up my hips and stretch my main weak points. I've added quite a lot of extra depth since I started with the warm ups about 6 months ago.
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RedPillRedemption 9y ago
Thanks, I'll do those exercises.
I changed my routine and now I walk nearly 2 hours a day instead of public transportation or a car, which seems to be helping me with my mood at least.
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RedPillRedemption 9y ago
It's actually depressing comparing that to the actual image in the mirror.
But I put on a sticky with the quote "Man cannot remake himself without suffering, for he is both the marble and the sculptor." Keeps me going strong.
vagbutters 9y ago
Don't get depressed dude-- I was there myself about 6 years ago when I was in college. Had a gross fatbody and I changed that first to one where I no longer had a belly, then to one where I am more chiseled.
Patience is the name of the game here, and you can only do this one step at a time. Think of it this way: it took years of bad habits to get you to your current bad body, but it'll take maybe a few months to a year to get to your ideal weight goals with a little discipline. That's relatively quick.
RedPillRedemption 9y ago
Thank you for the encouragement.
I'm currently replacing my bad habits, but the lack of discipline if the toughest battle.
vagbutters 9y ago
One step at a time-- we're all only human and bad habits are the ghosts that follow us everywhere.
Atticus_Crowley 9y ago
How are your stretchmarks? I just lost 20 pounds recently, and have noticed them on my belly, thighs and hips. Currently in bulk mode but wondering how the stretchmarks are gonna look on a finished product.
vagbutters 9y ago
They're still there, but they don't really detract from my abs. It's not ideal, but to be frank, no girl really gives a fuck once you look good with your shirt off.
xXSoroxXx 9y ago
http://symmetricstrength.com
Is another site you can use to benchmark your lifting progress.
WhiteWall35 9y ago
Think this site is much better for benchmarking your lifting progress. The weights on the EXRX are too low (on the elite side, at least).
Degener0 9y ago
GSP's trainer Firas Zahabi on how to program your mind for fitness
https://youtu.be/Q8K7ifs2Db4
https://youtu.be/yZMbP_pJGRk
Oberyn_Reed 9y ago
"Overtraining"
Steroids.
No causal link to heart/cardiovascular disease, only correlation. Make gains in 1 year that would have taken 10 years natural, feel good every day, doms doesn't exist, have energy every morning, heightened libido.
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Yep. I am thinking of hopping on soon. One of my friends gained 40lbs and went from 160lbs to 200lbs in 1 year at 5`11.
MattyAnon Admin 9y ago
There are four explanations for correlation:
Coincidence is removed with a larger sample. Having removed the ridiculous heart disease causing steroid use (or a common factor causing both), then you are only left with a causal link from steroids to cardiovascular disease.
NoIdeaAboutIt 9y ago
No. A can be totally unrelated to B without a common C causing both while not being a coincidence either.
Illustrative example: 95/100 drivers involved in a fatal car accident had consumed water within the previous 6 hours.
The number is made up, but you get the point.
It's hard for me to type on a pad, so I'll be brief on the second part. It's impossible to have tests ceteris paribus. This means that having a control group does not mean that the competing groups begin as equal, regardless of the sample size. In other words, small correlations don't mean much, if anything at all because it's impossible to weed out the unknown starting difference between the two groups.
MattyAnon Admin 9y ago
The steroids have fucked with the logic centres of your brain
FUCK_YEA_GLITTER 9y ago
Need this. And estrogen blockers
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Imarobot2 9y ago
You make a valid point. For example in the novice programs bench press is alternated with presses on a weekly basis. You'll bench Monday and Friday, and Press on Wednesday on week 1 (workout A) and on week you'll press on Monday and Friday, and Bench on Wednesday (workout B).
The same can be done on novice and intermediate programs as well, e.g., The Texas Method also alternates presses like that. In addition, it alternates pulls form the ground--heavy deads on Monday and lighter but more explosive cleans on Friday.
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Imarobot2 9y ago
Start with stronglifts or another novice program to build back up to where you were. If you jump right in with an intermediate program where your old numbers were at or close to it, there will be a greater risk of injury. You also won't be able to lift the same weights you use to, and using an intermediate program to get back to that point will be slower than a novice program.
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