I slay on social media. Idk if OP is speaking from experience, but I can't emphasize enough that because I have a strong fitness-oriented Instagram and Snapchat, I slay on those platforms. Messages almost every time I post a selfie from high-quality poon. Always adding new fit girls from my city and girls from EDM shows and concerts.

Take everything you read here with a grain of salt. If you're fit, good looking and witty, social media is every bit as good as Tinder, and requires almost no effort. I take maybe 5 minutes a day to snap a pic and post. I'll take those results ever time.

I found that social media is just a total waste of time. Only the most plugged in suckers don't realize this after a while. Delete delete delete. The only exception could be Instagram because it's simple, allows you to share some parts of your life while reducing any contact/attention given.

Text game is a dead end after a while, you will find that whenever you chat to women online, it will inevitably die within a while. The cycle will be obvious to you. Meet a girl > text conversation > interest sparked > flirting > interest lost > girl ghosts.

I managed to get/bang two girls via social media. Yeah 7yr ago on Facebook, but it did happen. 21 and 24 were their ages. Maybe things have changed since then. You tell me.

EDIT: in both cases they were girls I added as friends of friends. And then gamed normally.

i deactivated facebook, not for this reason solely but because its a distraction. I still have messenger and talk to people

Totally agree. I've stopped adding women on social media. It's an orbiter-collection and narcissism-enabling utility.

"The researchers concluded that “reward-related activity in the left nucleus accumbens predicts Facebook use.” In addition, they found “gains in reputation” to be the primary reward stimulus. The brain’s mechanism for processing self-relevant gains in reputation through Facebook use mirrors the reward circuitry activated through addiction to psychotropic substances."

"Over time, the nucleus accumbens adapts to the dopamine response, requiring increasing stimulation. This may come in the form of seeking more likes, comments, shares, or spending an increasing amount of time using social media technologies, ..."

Source: "social media addiction" Steve Rose Blog

"Although it is clear that gender impacts a variety of domains, recent research is beginning to uncover some of the specific psychological foundations of how men and women differ. One primary area of interest is self-representation."

Source: "Gender Differences in the Relational and Collective Bases for Trust." 148kb PDF document Authored by researchers from Northwestern University & Ohio State University.

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36 yr f here, agree with most of what's said here. However I'm curious if men also get turned on by women who genuinely seem too busy to pour on the attention and validation seeking? Honestly curious on the different opinions about that.

Going to have to disagree at least partially. When done properly it's great social proof. You aren't automatically relegated to orbiter status just for adding someone. You're an orbiter when you proceed to like every one of their photos and become a validation slut.

if you actually do cool stuff, snapchat is a good tool. again it's a tool.

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I agree with this post. Insta and Facebook are kinda fuckng gay. It's the pastime of narcissists. "Ooh, look at me. Validate my worth by liking my pictures. Please give me validation!". Men don't need that shit. It's for women.

There's also a flip side to it. My tinder match rate isn't good (I don't really have good pictures). So I also take the social media route. Some girls post their snapchats/Instagram names on their bio, and I just DM/Message them. and now I have a date setup for this week by adding her on snapchat, despite never matching on tinder.

I've closed with random girls off FB and instagram. You just have to be attractive enough I guess.

I 100% agree with OP. If you aren't a celebrity, don't do social media. Your lack of followers and friends will soon start to define you. Its best to stay mysterious and unplugged.

About the text game, how is she going to respond to your logistics messages if you texted her after two weeks of silence and she already forgot who you are?

Get them while they are mentally weak and need validation

Heh... Facebook for me means pics of my dogs, cars, and silly or cerebral shit. I have no pics of me, not even one. If I add a girl, it's probably because I don't give a damn if I ever fuck her. I don't add girls I want to fuck, and only occasionally if I have fucked them. I rarely like anything they say, I hand out miniscule validation and attention. Most of what I say is lascivious and lewd. I give no fucks.

Zero intention and interest in picking up girls from Facebook. It's an extension of family, friends, and car shit. It contains extremely little about me. Not even all my cars are on it.

My family and friends know how I am, I've been this way for my entire adult life. If they're offended, they can hide or unfriend me. I'll say and do as I please, always have.

A good percentage of my last few dozen notches were from Twitter and FB. Just gotta know how to play the game and not get burned.

God fuck that note, always wait longer than she text you and try four hours instead of 10 mins. The waiting time lets her obsess.

I would add as a woman, yes I know it will be ignored, but text her as you would your mates. If you do not text your mates constantly all day then don't text a woman all day.
All you appear is needy and someone who will just be a drain wanting constant attention.

Little clue that shits women as much as men.

However, I would say do not be a douch bag all you will create is one of two things. One she will turn needy and be constantly on your back to get validation and we all including men want to think the person we like at least likes us a little or two if she has any self respect will dump you tell you to f off or ghost you.

Unless of course you get a really desperate one or one with something wrong with them who will put up with anything.
And do you really want that?

Note: Never respond to texts right away. Wait at least around 10 mins or about 2/3 of however long it takes her to text you back.

Stop your fucking kid's games and do something with your life. If you have the opportunity to always respond immediately then something is wrong.

During work you should never text. You are at work. I only touch my phone at work when I get a call, since then it's something serious (or a friend who forgot that I work).

When you're at the gym you should work out and not look at messages.

When I hang out with my friends on Thursday night and play boardgames (yes, I play bg once a week with my friends that I've known for 20+ years) we have a no cell phone policy (again: calls are fine).

Repeat for every hobby/social event throughout the week.

Your life should automatically be full enough that when you have time to answer a text, there was enough time after receiving the message. And if - by pure chance - you receive a message when you're just in the changing room of your gym, then you can immediately answer it without thinking about any stupid "Did I wait long enough" rules.

If you sit at home waiting for messages, so you can play the waiting game there's something wrong with your life.

You can do social media, but you have to have a plan. You can't be out there spamming every girl you know, hitting her with too much. You have to have a social media presence that fits what your game is. Be authentic, and if your natural self sucks, it's time to fix that by making yourself a better man.

The reason I'm bullish on social media is because today's young women are scared shitless of "Creepy" men(IE men who aren't in their immediate social circle). Social media is a way for you to fight through that nonsense, especially if you have your shit together.

Texting, in the hands of an organized guy who understands how to work it is a valuable weapon. It's a good way to keep plates spinning, especially if you are college aged. Remember, girls between the ages of 18-25 are text reliant. That said, you have to know HOW to work text game, you have to make it clear what you are after, you can't let the conversations get routine, and you conduct business at YOUR OWN PACE. I used to put my phone somewhere, live my life, and respond to text hours if not days later. Don't be living by your phone.

While I certainly agree with you on girls using social media as huge sources of mental masturbation for their narcissist tendencies, and trying to "game" girls on Facebook messenger or Instagram DM's are usually going to fail unless you're extremely attractive, I don't see how additional women on your radar so to speak is bad. For example, here lately I have been adding a lot of girls I see in my "people you may know" suggestions on Facebook. My reasoning is simple. I live in a rural area and work weekends. So with the exception of going to bars, where am I going to run into 18-25 yo women in my day to day life? I'm not. I see adding them and doing a little lurking here and there as a way to make a connection with some of them and initiate some kind of contact that would never happen otherwise. I'm open to opinions and suggestions about the pros and cons of this. I need more outlets to meet women in order to even facilitate practicing game and getting the occasional sloot.

fuck, could have told me before I added the girl I met last night through a friend.

Face to face will get you laid.

Online "game" will waste your day and leave you frustrated.

Social media is helpful for logistics, like texting, but isn't as necessary IMHO. Great post, OP.

100% agree with this post. I went on a date with a girl last year who was a social media addict, had thousands of followers on IG/Shitter/FB. Absolutely no personality on this chick what so ever. Could tell her life revolved around her social media and only wanted me for more validation. Unfriended, cut her off and ghosted her after the date and I could tell she was getting pissed off.

Wow. All these comments about, "well snap chat is legit" or "But I've had luck on Facebook." Just ask yourself this. Let's say for arguments sake that James Bond is a real person. Does 007 need Facebook to get laid? Does Bond snap chat and then laydown a groundwork of texts to get laid?

You see what OP and lots of other posts about this topic are trying to communicate is that social media is a female playground. It's strictly set up so they can vet and scout out available alphas and classify betas in order of usefulness. Unless you're incredibly high market value social media in general only hurts you as women will sniff out weaknesses and evaluate your resources and SMV. The minute a girl figures she has you evaluated and summed up the seduction is dead. This goes for marriage as well.

If you don't keep a little mystery your dead in the water with women.

Now of course we can't all be James Bond. But even middle and low value women need to 'think' their man is packed with endless possibilities of sexual prowess, power and resource attainment. Spin that hamster wheel with dress, looks, stature, a mission, DGAF attitude, and amused mastery. This is what redpill has taught from day one and if you spend too much time on social media that's not directly related to your mission you send a huge red flag out to women that you are beta and any women above a 7 with thousands of options is quickly looking elsewhere at that point.

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I think social media is an easy way to raise SMV. Put up your best picture, limit what people can see, and rarely post. Do not engage in conversations of any kind.

Well....as a guy if you have a shitload of followers on instagram...that can help alot with the gram girls. If thats your thing.

That being said, if you have 10k+ instal followers then DM away

Social media is like texting. For logistics, that's it.

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My BP me is telling me to text the girl I have a tinder date with tomorrow to confirm, we have not spoken in nearly 2 days (I set the date on friday) but I am still following the rule

I will probably just send a message tomorrow morning saying: 'have a good sunday shift and I'll see you at X'. That's it

Keep your mind shut as much as possible! most of your successful dates will be like this prior to them

"Never respond to texts right away. Wait at least around 10 mins or about 2/3 of however long it takes her to text you back."

Good concept, for sure, but I would say an even more effective strategy would be to be unpredictable in response time. Text back right away every once in awhile, then don't respond for hours at other times

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Good stuff on texting; those "how was your day?" type of things are a must to eliminate.

I would add one more thing, though. This is something I read once and I've followed it pretty religiously ever since, bearing in mind that nothing is 100%.

Text content should be two things: Logistics(OP covered well) and, particularly after meeting the woman, anything flirty/sexual in nature.

So a picture of hot lingerie with the message, "you'd look pretty hot in this": totally OK.

THANK YOU FOR THIS POST.

I see it way to much on AskTRP.

Some variant of:

"I added this girl on social media and started talking to her"

"I asked this girl out over Facebook"

"We were talking to each other via DM"

Fuck that shit.

My view? You shouldn't have any social media. Delete it all, and become that mystery man that women will force to interact with in order to extract info out of. The more a woman learns about you, the less interested she will get. So why have a social media profile? Even if its a kick ass social media profile that demonstrates your value - you can still demonstrate value without it. It's way more risk than it is reward.

If you are going to have social media - for the love of God - do not add women. If they are interested they will add you. Do not talk to them over social media. Do not "ask them out" over social media. Do not even arrange logistics over social media. You should have her number, and get her number in person. "But I have never met her in person to get her number" Then forget about her. You shouldn't be meeting women online. Get out there and game women in person.

No communication with women over social media. Period.

i add girls unsolicited all the time. i'd say about 1/3 success rate getting ass. if i talk to her and within a day or two i see its going nowhere i'll ghost. social media is great for pussy. don't knock it if you don't know how to game it.

I gotta disagree with the social media part. You can have a presence on it and still retain a sense of mystery and coolness. You just have to have the right pictures. Of course it helps if you are attractive or travel a lot or take pictures with attractive women or have interesting hobbies or do fun things. As for not having a lot of friends, you can buy likes and followers fairly cheaply.

Agree with everything except for snapchat. 99% of the girls I fuck are on my snapchat. Its a great tool if you know how to use it right. At this point I'm more active using my snapchat interacting with women then even texting them. I rarely ask for numbers off tinder anymore, I just get their snapchat. Commence nudes.

Snapchat is especially useful for restarting up conversations, hitting up girls you've previously fucked for another go round, and to show value/abundance with your snapchat story.

I disagree, social media may not get you pussy directly ie. you message her on instagram and she comes and fucks you. But it will get you pussy indirectly. Maybe you meet a girl out, she adds your fb/insta/snapchat/whatever and see's youre a cool dude and you do cool 'insert activity here' and is now more attracted.

Don't put time energy into pursuing girls purely through social media, but to not use social media as a tool in your tool belt for building attraction is just unnecessarily shooting yourself in the foot in my opinion.

Note: Never respond to texts right away.

I was a bit uneasy reading this and saw that other people also comment on this.

Whats the logic here?

Maybe something like,

1) If you wait, she might get anxious and crave a reply thinking about you

2) If you respond right away, she might be more willing to text you again since instant feedback feels good

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